Good detail on the meters and the one gain knob. That tells me these boards remember the gain setting which is not really explained well in the manual. Thank you for this!
Great video. I'm running, for now, for many years a Tascam DM-4800 by FireWire with Cubase 10.5 Pro. But, for me it is still a nice combination, but DAW integration is a different story. So I decided to replace my beloved DM-4800 and Cubase with a "better" solution. Two options, in my range, Allen and Heath, or Presonus and there is a Wing from Behringer, not my thing. So I've been on UA-cam for a long time to see every video about the Presonus series III and Studio One. And one of the videos is yours. Again, great video, more in-depth info about gain, very important.
HEY @STAGELEFTAUDIO. THE THREE LIGHTS AT THE LEVEL METER(RIGHT ABOVE FADERS) LIGHTS INDICATE SPECIFIC LEVELS. BOTTOM SEGMENT GREEN LIGHT IS WHEN SIGNAL REACHES -40dbFS MIDDLE SEGMENT GREEN LIGHT IS WHEN SIGNAL REACHES -18dbFS TOP SEGMENT RED IS WHEN SIGNAL REACHES -1.5dbFS (CLIPPING WARNING) ONCE SIGNAL EXCEEDS -0.2dbFS RED LIGHT WILL GET BRIGHTER THE SAFE BET FOR LIVE SOUND IN MY OPINION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE RECORDING AUDIO TO EDIT IN DAW LATER, IS TO HAVE INPUT LEVELS SIT RIGHT BETWEEN -24db and -12db ON LIGHTS AT THE INPUT SECTION. WE CAN SAFELY ASSUME THAT IS PERFECT RIGHT AROUND -18db. IF IT HITS -12db IT'S OK. THAT'S MY PERSONAL "WATCH OUT FOR CLIPPING" MARKER. REASON BEING THAT IN 2020, ANALOG TO DIGITAL CONVERTERS ARE MADE WAY BETTER AND HAVE LESS NOISE THAN WHEN WE WERE COMING FROM THE ANALOG WORLD. RAISING IN POST DOESN'T ADD SIGNIFICANT NOISE. THE CONVERTERS ARE VERY QUIET. IT MAY SEEM SENSIBLE BUT TOO QUIET TO MIX THAT WAY IN A LIVE SOUND ENVIRONMENT. THATS WHEN I USE MY AMPS TO MAKE UP FOR THE VOLUME IN THAT SPECIFIC SPACE. I DO THIS BECAUSE THE CHURCH I MIX FOR DOES NEED LIVE SOUND BUT HAS PRIORITIZED THE RECORDING. THEREFORE KNOWING THAT MOST PLUGINS HAVE AN IDEAL INPUT AT -18dbFS, I TEND TO RECORD THE INPUTS AROUND THERE.
Great information! We try to keep the main FOH mix no louder than -12db (depending on the musical content of the band). This provides a little over-head when needed.
Thank you this was a very good guide to setting up vocal input levels on the Presonus, I have the 16 channel version and have been very pleased with it in all situations and learning all the time..
Thank you for your comment. Setting gain for drums is a little different. We set the *peak* levels to be close to +9db (sometimes, a little more). This allows for the drum "impact" to come through the system... this helps with the ability to "feel" the drums in addition to hearing them. However, gates are highly recommended when setting higher gain levels for drums.
The first yellow bar is -12. Usually, -18dBfs is considered 0dBu, which would put that level at the top (or last) green bar on the level meter of the StudioLive console.
Thank you for making these videos! When you are viewing auxs on the right side of the master fader, if you press the select button on one of those auxs, do the faders on the left move to represent the aux mix just like they would do if you hit the corresponding flex mix button? I thought of this question while watching your overview video but waited to see if you had answered it in one of your other videos. Keep up the good work and I would appreciate some more studiolive series 3 videos!
Thank you for the comment. The "select" button is only used to view and adjust the settings for that fader where the select button was pushed. They do not move faders. Any fader movement for the aux mixes is managed by the flex-mix buttons (just as you referenced).
Seems to me the channel meters above the faders may be post processing?. Thats why the signal don’t seem as hot as on the other meter in the fat channel.
Good point. Though, the channel meters should be pre-fade, which allows for PFL levels without the post processing load. The Presonus in the video is running firmware 2.1.1, which may be behind a revision. I haven't researched it, but it could be possible Presonus may introduce (or already has) a pre/post option for the channel faders metering.
When setting gain, the fader can be set all the way down. Fader position is irrelevant when setting gain. Watch the channel meter PFL to see how loud the signal is. Adjust the gain control so the meter shows around -12db. The gain control is separate from the fader control. Gain is the input into the channel... the fader control is the output of that channel (into the main bus of the console). Hope this helps.
This is a recent video showing the analog snake: ua-cam.com/video/7vhKYdBQD2w/v-deo.html&ab_channel=stageleftaudio The video name is: Stage Left Audio - Event Video 31 Also... ua-cam.com/video/90oVA8OZfRA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=stageleftaudio The video name is: Stage Left Audio - Event Video 23
@@stageleftaudio need a 32 channel with 8-Bus 150ft snake. Have any idea where I might get one? And yeah I've watched some of your videos last night and was very impressed 👏. Thanks very much for your help.
Thank you for your comment. Any reputable company should have (or should be able to get) any snake size you need. I'm not sure where you are located, but try these companies - Springhill Media Group, or Audiopile.net, or contact the cable/snake manufactures. Most manufactures will have a listing of the authorized dealers/re-sellers of their products.
The stereo outputs on the back of the console (L/R) should be set all the way to the right. This is a -0- db position. We rarely use the the L/R outputs. The mono output level control (which we use most of the time) is most always set all the way to the right. The would be a +6db position.
Good detail on the meters and the one gain knob. That tells me these boards remember the gain setting which is not really explained well in the manual. Thank you for this!
Glad it was helpful!
That dude nailed that solo!
Great video. I'm running, for now, for many years a Tascam DM-4800 by FireWire with Cubase 10.5 Pro. But, for me it is still a nice combination, but DAW integration is a different story. So I decided to replace my beloved DM-4800 and Cubase with a "better" solution. Two options, in my range, Allen and Heath, or Presonus and there is a Wing from Behringer, not my thing. So I've been on UA-cam for a long time to see every video about the Presonus series III and Studio One. And one of the videos is yours. Again, great video, more in-depth info about gain, very important.
Thank you for the comment!
HEY @STAGELEFTAUDIO. THE THREE LIGHTS AT THE LEVEL METER(RIGHT ABOVE FADERS) LIGHTS INDICATE SPECIFIC LEVELS.
BOTTOM SEGMENT GREEN LIGHT IS WHEN SIGNAL REACHES -40dbFS
MIDDLE SEGMENT GREEN LIGHT IS WHEN SIGNAL REACHES -18dbFS
TOP SEGMENT RED IS WHEN SIGNAL REACHES -1.5dbFS (CLIPPING WARNING)
ONCE SIGNAL EXCEEDS -0.2dbFS RED LIGHT WILL GET BRIGHTER
THE SAFE BET FOR LIVE SOUND IN MY OPINION, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ARE RECORDING AUDIO TO EDIT IN DAW LATER, IS TO HAVE INPUT LEVELS SIT RIGHT BETWEEN -24db and -12db ON LIGHTS AT THE INPUT SECTION. WE CAN SAFELY ASSUME THAT IS PERFECT RIGHT AROUND -18db. IF IT HITS -12db IT'S OK. THAT'S MY PERSONAL "WATCH OUT FOR CLIPPING" MARKER. REASON BEING THAT IN 2020, ANALOG TO DIGITAL CONVERTERS ARE MADE WAY BETTER AND HAVE LESS NOISE THAN WHEN WE WERE COMING FROM THE ANALOG WORLD. RAISING IN POST DOESN'T ADD SIGNIFICANT NOISE. THE CONVERTERS ARE VERY QUIET.
IT MAY SEEM SENSIBLE BUT TOO QUIET TO MIX THAT WAY IN A LIVE SOUND ENVIRONMENT. THATS WHEN I USE MY AMPS TO MAKE UP FOR THE VOLUME IN THAT SPECIFIC SPACE. I DO THIS BECAUSE THE CHURCH I MIX FOR DOES NEED LIVE SOUND BUT HAS PRIORITIZED THE RECORDING. THEREFORE KNOWING THAT MOST PLUGINS HAVE AN IDEAL INPUT AT -18dbFS, I TEND TO RECORD THE INPUTS AROUND THERE.
Great information! We try to keep the main FOH mix no louder than -12db (depending on the musical content of the band). This provides a little over-head when needed.
Thank you this was a very good guide to setting up vocal input levels on the Presonus, I have the 16 channel version and have been very pleased with it in all situations and learning all the time..
Thanks for uploading such videos SLA, they are so helpful. So when setting gain for the kick drum, do you follow the same approach?
Thank you for your comment. Setting gain for drums is a little different. We set the *peak* levels to be close to +9db (sometimes, a little more). This allows for the drum "impact" to come through the system... this helps with the ability to "feel" the drums in addition to hearing them. However, gates are highly recommended when setting higher gain levels for drums.
I believe that first yellow is -12 in dBfs, but it is 0 in dBu. Am I correct? Because I am using analog yamaha mixer rn, an the scale is in dBu.
The first yellow bar is -12. Usually, -18dBfs is considered 0dBu, which would put that level at the top (or last) green bar on the level meter of the StudioLive console.
Thank you for making these videos! When you are viewing auxs on the right side of the master fader, if you press the select button on one of those auxs, do the faders on the left move to represent the aux mix just like they would do if you hit the corresponding flex mix button? I thought of this question while watching your overview video but waited to see if you had answered it in one of your other videos. Keep up the good work and I would appreciate some more studiolive series 3 videos!
Thank you for the comment. The "select" button is only used to view and adjust the settings for that fader where the select button was pushed. They do not move faders. Any fader movement for the aux mixes is managed by the flex-mix buttons (just as you referenced).
Thank you!!
Seems to me the channel meters above the faders may be post processing?. Thats why the signal don’t seem as hot as on the other meter in the fat channel.
Good point. Though, the channel meters should be pre-fade, which allows for PFL levels without the post processing load. The Presonus in the video is running firmware 2.1.1, which may be behind a revision. I haven't researched it, but it could be possible Presonus may introduce (or already has) a pre/post option for the channel faders metering.
another informative session. thank you, sir!!
Thank you!
Do you turn the left right output output volume all the way up or half way etc
So where do I set my fader during this process of configuring my gain to -12 db? Thanks for any help!
When setting gain, the fader can be set all the way down. Fader position is irrelevant when setting gain. Watch the channel meter PFL to see how loud the signal is. Adjust the gain control so the meter shows around -12db.
The gain control is separate from the fader control. Gain is the input into the channel... the fader control is the output of that channel (into the main bus of the console). Hope this helps.
@@stageleftaudio thanks a bunch. That’s what I thought
Plz working get and comp deferent
Hi there. I'm planning on getting the board for my church. Can I use a regular snake with this unit?
Yes. We have other videos showing an analog snake being used with this console.
@@stageleftaudio thank you. Is it possible to send me the link to that video please?
This is a recent video showing the analog snake:
ua-cam.com/video/7vhKYdBQD2w/v-deo.html&ab_channel=stageleftaudio
The video name is: Stage Left Audio - Event Video 31
Also...
ua-cam.com/video/90oVA8OZfRA/v-deo.html&ab_channel=stageleftaudio
The video name is: Stage Left Audio - Event Video 23
@@stageleftaudio need a 32 channel with 8-Bus 150ft snake. Have any idea where I might get one? And yeah I've watched some of your videos last night and was very impressed 👏. Thanks very much for your help.
Thank you for your comment. Any reputable company should have (or should be able to get) any snake size you need. I'm not sure where you are located, but try these companies - Springhill Media Group, or Audiopile.net, or contact the cable/snake manufactures. Most manufactures will have a listing of the authorized dealers/re-sellers of their products.
On the back of the studio live32
The stereo outputs on the back of the console (L/R) should be set all the way to the right. This is a -0- db position. We rarely use the the L/R outputs. The mono output level control (which we use most of the time) is most always set all the way to the right. The would be a +6db position.
U don't show us full screen
10 mins to explain input level it’s huge ......