Maybe upgrading is pointless….. - PCI-E Gen 4 vs Gen 3
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
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PCI Express gen 4 has been around for over a year and a half now - But it hasn’t really made much of a difference… Does that change with Ryzen 5000, RTX 3000, and Radeon 6000?
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Linus: *Puts a motherboard on a stand*
Gravity: "How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?"
Nice one, but ... I think that he is the young one in this scenario x)
I love the young people 🙃
At least one more time I assume.
I'm starting to wonder if it's on purpose.
The next video of Linus Drops Tips will have that moment xD
Seriously who writes those puns in the intro? they never fail to completely deliver!
The writer of the video. So in this case, Anthony.
For the answer, you gotta check out our sponsors...
The art of clickbait. This title ain't bad though
Omg you are speaking out of my heart
Dude needs a raise
Video coming soon: DROPPED PARTS ONLY BUILD - WILL IT POST?!?
I won't mind watching that
Great idea!
They all post since everything he touched drops xD xD xD xD
Great Idea, I hope Linus reads your comment
The entire industry: Throughput is in gigabits.
Pcie standard: its gigabytes now
There are 2 types of people
"NOOOOOOOO THE BOARD!!!"
"Haha Linus Drop Tips back at it again"
Linus drop tips go brrrrr
Linus Drop Tips
schizophrenia ftw
@Singers News No.
its only msi. who cares :P
MSI 45 seconds into the video:
This is good advertising
MSI 46 seconds into the video:
Who idea was this?
@BILLIE SAYS DUH it's a lie lol, and get your comments by a better means, spamming is not the way to go
@BILLIE SAYS DUH Man, if Linus sees this and report your channel as a spam then good luck appealing to youtube to get your channel un-blocked.
Now MSI can get double marketing if LTT shows that this motherboard is still working. If it still working, of course.
@@boywithcrackers3871 is a bot, probably a stolen channel.
@BILLIE SAYS DUH If you want a mic so bad, then get a job.
piece of hardware: *exist*
Linus: I’m about to end this thing's whole career
@Singers News stfu
By dropping it
@Singers News another bot lol
😂
Piece? More like pcie
I’d gladly take anyone’s “last gen trash”
Please, my integrated graphics, they're very sick.
@@Blackspidy619 my intel core i3, integrated graphics included
haha. u sure u want a 2080ti?
@@alexanderschmeling5650 It would probably be better than my PNY 1660 TI, and the card I want right now(RTX 3060 ) isn’t in stock at the moment.
@@AS-zq2cq Ur complaining about a 1660 ti?? I got an xbox one....
Motherboard: "I know what's coming. I'll just drop myself and get it over with."
LOL
I was thinking along the same lines! The look on Linus' face though!
Motherboard: "Linus said that upgrading is pointless, I just want to die"
0:44 Everyone: "This is what I subscribed for"
this is the moment i liked the video
Linus: *Drops a piece of electronics*
Also Linus: "I'll put this in the exact same place I just knocked it off from"
These sponsors have got to be used to that by now and send a defective unit for show along with a working one for the actual tests that they tell Linus not to touch.
I was ready to hear him say that it was a dummy motherboard! xD
If you look closely, he didn't knock it off.
His hand wasn't even near it.
@@MrCODEmaster00 That's how bad it has gotten already!
@Singers News don't self promote here
Damn, this is more of a testament to how good Gen 3 was more than anything else.
@Marco Cubides Domínguez fr, I'd also assume the industry has gotten used to gen 3, it's been years
I completely agree I got gen 3 when gen 4 came out and was feeling pretty dumb till I saw this video
@@vinnynaps4763 not your choice, you get whatever motherboard you want to meet your cpu needs, new ones are all gen 4, slightly older ones are all gen 3.
but damn gen 5 is a thing now
Planning to get a 6800 but I only have a gen 3 motherboard, I don't think that the difference will be high at all considering the tested cards here were the top of the line at the moment of testing so a 6800 wouldn't push the bandwidth as much.
Conspiracy theory: Linus' proficiency at dropping hardware gets him access to more pre-release products, since the review unit also counts as an abusive customer QA test.
It's was all planned from the start
Companies be like: *Expanding brain meme*
bruh idiots everyone knows linus just bribes them with obama's last name and now they have to give him review samples all the time
He's the one they go to for stress tests, what can this hardware take and still run? haha
It was after seeing the incident at 0:46. My roommate screamed and ran out of the room. I'm thinking that I need to watch these without him now.
So did he explain why?
Someone could turn this drop into a remix.. 😂
🤣I think that Motherboard would be worth of nearly rtx 3070
I hit the like button as soon as I saw him knock it onto the ground.
Legend.
Oh my God, I love your videos! There so...modest!
MSI: Our motherboards can take a beating. It survived an LTT video.
Probably the weakest mobos you could think of buying
I have tomahawk max, best mobo ever!
@Tom Smith updating bios is always risky on any motherboard, from any manufacturer, at any age. Never update bios unless you need something only a bios update can provide.
@Tom Smith 1. this is not true. In fact, many manufacturers recommend against updating bios. Msi says explicitly in their support page “MSI do not recommend to upgrade BIOS if system works stable”. Both asrock and asus state that updating your bios may result in your system needing servicing. Not one person in the first 2 pages of search results did I find that recommends updating bios. Everyone except like 2-3 people were explicitly against updating bios.
2. The reason why bios updates are dangerous to your pc is because bios uses read only memory (ROM). ROMs need to be flashed, which is a lot more dangerous than writing to a drive. This is because the bios are designed to not be changed at all under normal use (prevent bricking pc from malware, misuse, bugs, glitches, etc.). The bios ROM is not designed to be flashed.
@@42cuba i literraly hate Gigabyte mobos, because they treated me like a little bitch for all of my life. MSI on the other hand never failed, even once.
Still figuring out on how to bully Linus with his beard, but he is a good guy
@BILLIE SAYS DUH Just buy one
@BILLIE SAYS DUH Also how does Linus inspire you if you do music
@BILLIE SAYS DUH rubbish
@BILLIE SAYS DUH It sucks. Go get a job or somethin
@@that1guy346 well this time he doesn't look like a cave man
*Wow, Linus has really outdone himself with COVID precautions; he even does contactless dropping now!*
@@jacobrzeszewski6527 shindeiru ;)
Lol.
Linus: Techquickie
Motherboard: Ah f*** this, I'm out of here.
Underrated
@@farid7884 Not anymore :P
yes
Wow, Linus has really outdone himself with COVID precautions; he even does contactless dropping now! :P
:)
Why did he have to do that to my Board of all the things, It just had to be a Meg x570 Ace😭😭😭😭
God tier comment
STOP MAN, YOU KILLED HIM, HE'S ALREADY DEAD
We should start giving motherboards “Linus drop certified” durability ratings
LDC50: can survive a 50cm drop.
Oh god yes!
That’s when you knows he’s made it. Lol
LOL
lol
Comments Summarized
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90% = Linus Drop Tips
lmao
hilarious
"We've been doing this 4 generations" Proceeds to drop motherboard off the table.
Well done
He's certainly been doing THAT for several generations
Another Linus Drop Tips compilation video, LOL
Its not a Linus video if something doesn't fall or break
Gigabyte should hire Linus to test how "Ultra Durable" their motherboards are.
That motherboard was msi
And ASUS to test how tough their TUF hardware is haha
@@jackteffeau woosh
@@jackteffeau r/wooosh
And Lenovo thinkpads...back in the day when IBM made them they consistently won torture tests year after year with two primary categories being drops and spills.
I appreciate the cadence of his explanations and thoroughness of breaking everything down. idk if this episode had a different writer or if he was winging it, but great job man. I feel like my mom could even appreciate this video as it was very easy to follow and made great points and seamless delivery
Linus: Exists
Literally anything electronic: Time to test that haystack jump
You had me genuinely dying of laughter there
NGL popped off when I saw we get more Linus drop tips content
@BILLIE SAYS DUH how many alt accounts do u have
@BILLIE SAYS DUH dude you cant spam blast people these days expecting to fool us with such blatant cheap sales tactics. at least TRY to sound convincing and not just bank on the fact that some dumb kid will do what you say and somehow make you a rich famous celeb. if your work is good, let it speak for itself.
@BILLIE SAYS DUH oh by the way, i will follow you wherever you spam blast this and warn people of you if you dont quit it. you are free to speak your mind but we are also free to ridicule you for it if you do things like annoy people with spam advertising.
"We've been doing this 4 generations"
Wait did you mean drop the motherboard every generation
The roast of linus 2021
We cannot start a new generation without Linus dropped mobo, it's a celebration
Sometimes not just motherboards, entire PC's too :D
When the board fell, my heart literally stopped for a moment!
Linus Drop Tips
@@atomfusion231 the one and only
Yo nice prof pic
I swear, he's doing it on purpose now.
@BILLIE SAYS DUH lmao I love the autofill "LTT"
08:56 Riley's learnt the way of the Linus 🙏
He's been a disciple since NCIX.
This motherboard got its GodLike certification by surviving the Linus drop test.
When Linus talks about them putting a second 3090 in I imagine him Scrouge McDucking into a pool filled with unobtainable graphics cards.
There was 7 made he has 5 of them
@@Nobbie248 3 were functional at the end of the video
So only 5 work
"maybe upgrading is pointless..."
When you can't even upgrade
True
@BILLIE SAYS DUH your fakeness is digusting
@BILLIE SAYS DUH 😐
@BILLIE SAYS DUH shut up. cant believe how a frickin tech channel can be ur inspiration for song
@BILLIE SAYS DUH 1. Don't spam.
2. There's better ways to promote yourself than begging. Sure you'll get attention, but for the wrong reasons.
"pci e gen 3 to gen 4 is useless" a year later when rx6500xt comes out
At this point, he's just dropping stuff for the memes. And I'm not complaining.
Yeah, your right
Yeah I think they killed that MSI Godlike MB multiple videos ago. Now he's adopted it as *his* meme. 😅
Or breaking 2k mainboards because overtightened.
0:46 & 8:56 They don't call them "Linus Drop Tips" for no reason, that's for sure.
@BILLIE SAYS DUH It sucks. Go get a job or somethin
0:45 Linus's dropping stuff has reached a new level. He doesn't even need to hold things to drop them anymore.
Ultra Instinct Dropping..he drops so fast we can't see him anymore
The Force is with him
Linus Drop Tips
Everybody's talking about him dropping the motherboard so soon, but nobody's talking about the phone ringing at 0:58
Looks like they removed it.
@@xpyr nah, you can hear the Samsung ringtone haha
"Adding more lanes is challenging, [...] if you could just make all the cars drive faster, that's way more economical."
German Autobahn in a nutshell xD
Not really. The highest throughput is achieved at around 80-100km/h, because at higher speeds you have to increase the safety distance between cars too much. Incidentally the Autobahn's rightmost lanes move at those speeds, everyone else is just overtaking.
@@Thror251 bruh they drive 130/140 on the right the far right are trucks going 90 yes but the rest not
@Singers News maybe go make ur own money so you don't need to ask mom?
Auf Stau angelehnt
@Singers News dude you cant spam blast people these days expecting to fool us with such blatant cheap sales tactics. at least TRY to sound convincing and not just bank on the fact that some dumb kid will do what you say and somehow make you a rich famous celeb. if your work is good, let it speak for itself.
"Just like I keep the sponsors coming."
Ooooh myyyyyy.
#linussextips
I swear Tech just realizes when Linus is nearby and just decides to get it over with.
bruh
Now I want Michael Reeves to make a linus detection bot that yeets itself when it sees linus
LMG - Cool another sponsor
Other youtubers - Imagine getting sponsors for every video
hilarious
Drops a 1000$ motherboard:
"Oh no! Anyway..."
Well he did brick a$ 2000 a few videos ago lol
@@sneakysquirrel1990 well, he did dropkicked a 10k cpu years ago
@@sneakysquirrel1990 Money is just an illusion
He also dropped 50k on GME
@@follow6460 fiat currency is an illusion, money is not however
The only upgrade that I can do is apparently to the amazing new GPU called "Sold Out"
It's amazingly fast. When you blink, it's already there.
@Singers News dude you cant spam blast people these days expecting to fool us with such blatant cheap sales tactics. at least TRY to sound convincing and not just bank on the fact that some dumb kid will do what you say and somehow make you a rich famous celeb. if your work is good, let it speak for itself.
@Singers News oh by the way, i will follow you wherever you spam blast this and warn people of you if you dont quit it. you are free to speak your mind but we are also free to ridicule you for it if you do things like annoy people with spam advertising.
Only a twitter bot account. I got my 3060ti from ebay at$450 from newegg.
They do follow a theme when they launch their products
Given how modern rendering works, I would generally expect more improvements from Gen4 on older rendering engines that are getting pushed to their limits. Newer rendering engines often don't communicate that much between the CPU and GPU every frame. Compared to older engines where significant amount of data could be sent to the GPU every frame. This makes me expect to see a significant performance improvement in Minecraft java edition. I would also expect to see an improvement in hardware accelerated rendering of websites.
Wondering how much of a hinderance gen 3 would pose to an rx 6800
Linus: Droppin' motherboards like beats.
Christopher Mintmier: Has 5 subs
UA-cam: Verified!
Nah fr how are u verified with 5 subs?
How do I learn this power
Droppin' pla-- I mean, motherboards like it's 2000 and you just got that new Disturbed CD
"... I keep the sponsors coming."
- Linus Sebastian, 2021
LinusSexTips
@@OfficialDJSoru that channel was a thing until Linus DMCA'd it :-/
Came to the comments for this, left satisfied
0:44 Linus drop tips is back guys he is back amazing 😂🤯
8:55 And Riley drop tips
3:40 It's just "for some reason", it's because it's 400FPS! Every frame the CPU needs to give the new locations of every mesh, the new animations frames, load in textures / new meshes that are visible, and overall just update the visibility graph of the entire scene, including animating particles etc. At 90FPS, that's not a lot of data, and PCIe isn't bottlenecking performance. But at 350-400FPS, that's enough transfers per second of data from CPU->GPU that it's actually saturating the PCIe slot.
Flashbacks to Max chasing down a falling mobo while Linus watches this one fall.
"It's a stress test, You wouldn't want it if it breaks easy" - Linus ROG Reboot
My comp science teacher was literally talking about this today! He even used the same example about the highway!!
why don't my teachers teach me anything
"But a theory is just that: a theory. We need to put it to the test." A theory is something already backed by proof. What you're talking about is a hypothesis.
"Theory" has multiple different definitions depending on the context.
www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/theory
@@OwenWalker Colloquially, theory carries the same meaning as hypothesis. Formally, it's incorrect and can be confusing.
MSI: Probably gave linus a prototype motherboard which is irreplacable.
Also Linus: 0:44
They probably bought the awards it got
@BILLIE SAYS DUH It sucks. Go get a job or somethin
Also Riley: 8:55
@BILLIE SAYS DUH stop spamming your channel is completely worthless
"so some motherboards, like this broken god-like here..."
@Singers News h
@Singers News dude you cant spam blast people these days expecting to fool us with such blatant cheap sales tactics. at least TRY to sound convincing and not just bank on the fact that some dumb kid will do what you say and somehow make you a rich famous celeb. if your work is good, let it speak for itself.
@Singers News oh by the way, i will follow you wherever you spam blast this and warn people of you if you dont quit it. you are free to speak your mind but we are also free to ridicule you for it if you do things like annoy people with spam advertising.
Sponsored by MSI, uses Asus motherboard for testing.
@@musek5048 I know they’re basically spamming everywhere in a scummy way, but you have no idea how it works when you say “just let your work speak for yourself, duuuh”. It’s like that “if you’re homeless, then buy a house” advice.
Motherboard factory: Hey Fred where are you being shipped to?
Sam: Linus.
Fred: Nice knowing you kid. :)
If the question is being asked from Fred why is Sam responding?
@@thegeekykid0 I'm using anti-logic.
Well, if I'd be the board and had a choice between Linus, Steve, Jay or Roman, I'd happily choose Linus...
@@beaker-yt Fair.
I mentioned Linus on one of my streams the other day, and someone called him “punk tech dad” and I whole heartedly agree with that assessment.
Linus is ascending in quarantine, he can drop PC parts without even holding them now!
"A theory is just that " - Linus 2021, a bastion for the faithful against gravity.
“We need to put it to the test.” Linus has tested gravity on multiple occasions. Sorry anti-gravity faithfuls.
0:45 That was quick
Dropquickie ;)
0:46
That's a new world record Linus Drop Everything
It's like Linus is just genetically prone to dropping motherboards.
Or maybe by this point he does for the memes and because that give the video more views
He drops everything.
@@fabiomora6491 More fodder to the Linus Drop Tips...
@Fabio Mora . Sometimes yes, this time probably not.
@@robertt9342 idk his reaction didn't got for me, but who knows
As always it looks like its really up to developers to learn how to take advantage of the potential in the new tech.
0:45 when you now just drop things for the memes
"but a theory is just that. A theory"
No that would be a hypothesis. A theory (at least a scientific theory) doesn't become fact it always stays a theory. A well tested theory is the highest an idea can go in the scientific method. The fact that a theory remains a theory is its proof. It means it has not been able to be disproven
Make less sense.
@@daathgnosis2098 He's right.
A theory is the highest honor any idea can achieve in science, you just can't get better than that.
Only theories have the power to make predictions, a good example of this was the solar eclipse of May 29 1919, where Einstein predicted the bending of light by the Sun's gravity, proving right his theory of general relativity.
You can be sure that if anything is a theory, you could bet your life on it remaining true.
Also, if a theory ever gets replaced, it gets replaced by a new one that explains the same the old one did AND more.
40 seconds into a video, and he already dropped something.
@BILLIE SAYS DUH stfu spammer
@BILLIE SAYS DUH It sucks. Go get a job or somethin
yes
I love how linus just straight up said msi don't give a fuck.
watch them sponsor him again
They gotta offset the abyssmal PR theyve been getting from Steve at GN thrashing them repeatedly, somehow.
All the videos get approved by the sponsor before publishing they Approved him saying "fuck"
Disfigured goofy: I’ll fucking do it again
@@awinick9309 got that ref lol
Saw the title, thought: “probably only useful for ai kind of workloads”
Linus: agrees, but does not benchmark it...
It's kind of telling that these guys are good at gaming and server stuff, but don't necessarily go outside that comfort zone.
can do that with faceswap dev
i love the channel linusdroptips its so good that not even a minute in already dropped something
thats why i upgraded everything in my pc except my gen3 b450m mortar titanium. its a really good motherboard for the $125 price i got it
Piece of expensive hardware: exists
Linus Sebastian: haha, motherboard go plop
I read this while plopping ;-)
@@phillipmarnik thanks for that image
Still laughing I can’t believe that mobo slid down like that and his reaction haha
0:57 You can tell he's actually nervous to drop it again.
Linus is getting stronger, now things just fall around him without him even touching it
Devil fruit awakening
@@CancelledCancer lmfaooo
You can see a string pulling it if you look closely. It's staged
It's the beard, I'm sure.
He is becoming Jiren of falling objects
Days without dropping expensive PC parts: 0
@BILLIE SAYS DUH stfu bot
0:45 Linus being himself for the millionth time
It’s like the MB knew Linus was around and just decided to hit the floor before he did it 😂
i love how he promote sponsors, so darn smooth :D
"Intel's upcoming Rocket League CPUs"
came here for this comment!! haha
7:04
I'd suggest getting and using one of those wooden book stands that holds the book upright at a slight backwards angle and has small wooden hooks at the bottom as part of the frame - pretty much the same angle as in the video.
The human eye can't even see the first comment.
that username tho 😂😂😂
Sometimes you need to look with confidence.
Thank you I was building my gaming PC slow and I felt dumb for getting gen 3 when I knew at the time gen 4 was out was just pricing was really high during after the pandemic
when the video started zooming on the board, everyone thought about one thing: the beard... I mean the board... Yeah the falling board...
@Singers News you can stop now, you also commented on Jacksepticeye's video and it's kinda annoying tbh
"...so we got a second rtx3090"
Wow. So that's were all the stock went....
i would like to see more low end or budget builds since the majority of us have systems around those specs. all this high end stuff maybe like only 5% or less can actually benefit from these
The accident at 0:47 made me call hospital.
Cuz I just missed a heartbeat
Me reading the title: bruh don't tell me rtx 4000 is on the way....
I just got back from micro center in 2022 and yeah they're out now. I got two 4069s in SLI
@@martymcfly88mph35 is the rona over or nah?
@@martymcfly88mph35 only two 4069s? I have six 4200s in nvlink.
@@sherwintandas3315 conservatives keep trying to open things back up since almost everyone has been vaccinated but democrats and leftists keep screaming "you care more about money than lives #thenewnormal" despite deaths being almost entirely gone.
@@sherwintandas3315 I dont think they ever want things to go back to normal. Destroying the economy and peoples finances wasnt enough, they want people miserable.
me clicking when posted 4 minutes ago and expecting maybe a couple thousand views, 14 thousand views bru
@BILLIE SAYS DUH ltt is just your inspiration in technology
Real Life Physics Engine: I'mma show this man how a RTX 9080 works.
explaining it with the car thing was very effective on me now i understand some more and its not just big boy words
Could it have just been high frame rate that allowed us to see such a difference in Counter Strike? Test more games that can go over 300 fps
That's my guess, too. But at 300 to 400fps, who even cares anymore? Oh, this thing that is 5x faster than I can even discern is 6x faster with PCIe g4. ... cool. Anyway...
But that would mean more than 1h of work for them.
@@243263843 its theyr job
It probably has more to do with the fact that the game is a DirectX 9 title. directx9 uses up the PCIe bandwidth way way more than directx10 and later versions. I used to use a thunderbolt eGPU and an expgdc eGPU (runs on an x1 lane) and I measured the amount of the bus games with these APIs used and it was always the case that Dx9 titles faired worse by a huge degree on these eGPUs.
Probably not, it could equally be that the difference between 300fps and 400fps is half of the difference between 200fps and 300fps (in terms of frame time), and yared deyaso's guess that it has to do with CS being a DX9 title is probably also a part of the reason
It would actually make more sense to test it with lower grade cards with less on card memory (instead of those top of the line ones, where they have so much of it that they can fit almost all of assets required by entire levels) in more open world games that do a lot of streaming...
"Maybe upgrading is pointless….."
Yeah, when you drop everything you buy 😂😂😂
The mainboard drop will most likely take the headline, but this is a pretty informative video with interesting results. Keep it up!
"just like I keep the sponsors coming"
hol up
You never know if there's rule 34 of Linus, and you never know if the sponsors like them.
Who else remembers when he didn’t have the beard?
Your videos are pretty good
Us plus he used to usually gel his hair
Linus is so good he always does the drop test.
You can set your graphics card to x8 or x4, freeing more lanes for SSDs or other hardware. So more speed = "more better" (as one specific youtuber likes to say).
Would like a follow-up with the 4090 rtx, are they pretty much the same results?
That motherboard drop hurt me on a spiritual level
Ideally, once the bus gets fast enough, you'll be able to put more devices doing the same work with less lanes. This is like talking an interstate freeway and turning some of the lanes into high-speed train tracks, and eventually bullet-train tracks.
Me: Refreshing for 20 mins
UA-cam: Let's see how long he'll refresh for
Why is this only 0 likes lol
Ah yes, 3 views, 3 likes, and 3 comments. Perfectly balanced.
yep
3 reply soon