The most heartbreaking thing about Tara's death is how accidental it was. She wasn't even in the scene with Warren; she was just alone in a room with Willow. She was like those children that are killed in drive-by shootings: a pure soul, who had nothing to do with that fight, yet she dies because a hateful character decides to shoot people, and then a stray bullet ends her, right in front of her beloved.
I like how he says “we’ll just give her a girlfriend in college” but there was foreshadowing! Vampire Willow...Willow “I’m so evil and skanky and I think I’m kind of gay”
Joss planned for either Willow or Xander to be gay or bi from very early on. From what I remember, the executives were not on board then. But he dropped hints for both characters over time (like Xander being very into Riley or the way he talked about Spike sometimes, or Larry thinking he was gay, like him) and when Seth decided to leave the show, it was a perfect opportunity. I really love this couple a lot. It meant so much to me. still sad they ruined it with that new girlfriend that came out of nowhere, when Willow and Tara had such a beautiful build up to their relationship.
@@corcor1122 I don't think Willow turned evil, per say. She just went off the rails for half a season, that's all. She got better, I don't know why people keep saying that.
@@A_Blessed_Diamond she tried to end the world....if she had just killed warren in a fit of passion I'd say she went off the rails. But she then tried to kill Johnathan and Andrew. Killed the one wizard for more power, drained the magic from all of the darkest spell books in the magic box. Threatened to turn Dawn back into the key, summoned tree root monsters to kill Buffy and Dawn, and also would have most likely killed Anya and Buffy had Giles not interfeared. I'd say that's pretty evil.
@@corcor1122 Ok- yeah, that was evil. But she didn't stay like that. Maybe I feel this way because when I got the spoiler I had the impression that she was evil for like the rest of the series.
@@tylerdude1982 Exactly. Willow's arc in the final season should have been about grieving for Tara, about recovering from her magic addiction and finally her redemption. Willow getting a new girlfriend when Xander and Buffy wound up still single in the end, like you said, felt forced.
Thanks I'm not alone. I discovered the show very late (2 years ago) and I didn't know about Tara's death. It was a big shock and I still feel so sad sometimes, just thinking about it. It was so violent :/
The whole addiction story arc aside, Willow had the best relationships. Both Oz and Tara were loving, treated her as an equal, with respect, appreciation and support. It was everything one could hope for really, the wholesome counterbalance to all the messed up crap everybody else was going through on the regular.
No kidding. I mean when Angel and Buffy went to hell in a handbasket and Xander went and fell for Cordy, Willow got Oz, one of the coolest dudes on the show. He played in a band, he had a van, 3x out the month, was a wolf-man, was so chill, never pilled, and when he was around, he was only for Will. Then came Tara 😍 need I say more? Yes, quite shy, and I never got why, but why oh why did she have to die? Never got why she wasn't brought into the Scoobies till Season 5, not on the dot. Love Tara, and Oz. Willow became an inspiration to Tara because of Oz, and became what can only be described as a Goddess because of Tara. But then there's Kennedy. She's not bad. But the bar had become quite high by Season Seven. Let's just say, instead of introducing a new character, they should brought Oz back for Season Seven
100% agreed! I LOVE that she said something as well. That means a lot and in that kind of setting it's not easy to say, nor is it easy with her having been on the show, wanting to keep good professional relationships, etc. I honestly can't believe they delivered that news in that way which feels incredibly insensitive on multiple levels.
Just to see Alyson Hannigan and Amber Benson sitting next to each other and laughing is a gift. Makes it easier to imagine she's still alive in an alternate dimension.
Did anyone else notice? When this episode aired, Amber Benson was included in the opening cast credits for the first and only time. In every other episode, she was listed after the first commercial break. I think it was very commendable for the production team to thank her for her contributions to the show by elevating her to 'top-billing' status for her last episode.
Actually, joss always wanted to kill someone in their first episode with 'top-billing'. He would have done it with jesse, but they didn't have enough money for two sets of credits.
Personally I dont understand why she wasnt in the opening credits from season 5 onwards. She was an integral part of the team at that point. David Boreanaz would randomly appear for a couple of scenes in the early episodes and yet he was given top billing. The same with Charisma Carpenter. Literally everyone that was ever a part of the scoobies was in the credits except Amber Benson.
@@tylerdurden788 What are you talking about? Tara figured out the Buffy and Faith switch, Tara was accepted as part of the gang in Family, Tara fought in the final Glory battle, Tara was there for Joyce's funeral, Buffy confided in Tara about Spike, Anya and Tara hung out, Buffy hung with Tara, Tara helped resurrect Buffy, Tara babysat Dawn, Tara sung in a lot of the musical episode and everyone was upset when she died.
@xheralt To be fair GRRM had released the first three books in ASOIAF which includes Ned Starks death and the Red Wedding before Buffy ever killed of Tara. I'll grant you this was one of the first time I remember a TV show killing of one of the main characters and i n such a manner, but GRRM was already way down that road as well.
@@SincertyPatrick If this was made 3 years ago then Amber would have been 40 and Alyson would have been 43. 80 to 86 is probably a reasonable life expectancy for a woman in western countries. So yes, middle-aged. Though based on appearance I would have thought they were younger.
Amber Benson is so awesome. She really made Tara a great character. Broke my heart every time she and Willow fought. She looks great in this video, too.
It's interesting that the most affecting deaths in the show were both not supernatural. Buffy's mom was awful and it was illness, Tara was murdered by a common gun in the hands of a human. I think the power of that is relatability. A death by a demon isn't going to strike home like a death any one could face. The horror of the surprise of it in a world filled with so much fantasy. Both were so sudden and traumatic experiences for the characters.
@@digitig Yea I think The Body was the toughest to watch because it was so uber realistic but I have to say the loss of Tara hurt me worse overall. Jenny was rough too and man Passion was maybe the first episode where I realized wow this show is for real.
@@joefriedman9843 The Body both the best and most painful episode of TV I've ever seen, but Tara's death was easily the most enraging thing ever done on this show. And the fact that she was in the credits for one episode and then dead still makes me angry. She should have been there since the beginning of season six.
i think it is because Joss Whedon didn't have a good/healthy director relationship with her. He could be aggressive on set and wasn't even allowed to be on the set with Dawn/Michelle
I love that these two still have “chemistry” (I know they’re not gay or a real couple) but they clearly worked well together and that’s why the relationship was so authentic and believable. I love the fact that they didn’t overly shove the gay narrative in your face. They weren’t used for some kind of titillation they were just (willow and Tara) a couple.
I remember not getting why such a huge deal was made about Willow and Tara. I was just like “Yeah they love each other.” I think that speaks to how well the story was written. I, as a young kid, never even saw anything different or wrong about it. It was just an awesome relationship.
Haha yeah that skinning scene was awesome. Funny thing is though that Adam Busch who played Warren and Tara went out in real life for like 7 years, made movies together and are still BFF. Shows you what good actors they all were.
@@debpugs2734 my favorite line from that episode is when she goes to that dark arts book places her hand on it absorbs everything from it and says two words...thats better!
Amber and Alli are still so gorgeous. Tara's death and Joyce's death were the two most *devastating* things to endure as a fan of the show. I loved Tara so much! I loved her calmness, her delicate beauty. She and Willow had great chemistry. I sobbed.
Supposedly buffy was to get one wish at the end of season 7 and when she goes home to see willow she steps aside and reveals Tara back from the dead good as new. That would have been so heartwarming to see.
Their relationship was something you never really saw on television before. Their first kiss was so SHOCKING, in a bad way for some but in an unexpectedly great way for others! They were honestly my favorite relationship on the entire show. I think I was more affected by Tara's death than Buffy's moms....
Me too. Don't get me wrong Joyce's death shocked the hell out of me and it resulted in one ep that for me was a masterpiece but Tara's death left me with a little part of me broken. My OTP, the relationship that kept reminding me that it was ok for me to like other girls, that it was possible to have people around you that accepted you were gone...just like that...they survived a hell God but a human piece of shit took my Tara away, I'm still upset to this day.
Yes. They wanted someone more waif-like and thought she was physically wrong for the part, but she nailed the vulnerability of the character in the audition.
And then Marshall responds, “NO NOT TARA!” Lol. They even made Lilly get those red eyes of doom when she’d get super mad. Always thought that was a nod to Dark Willow.
@@StevenTyler94 Fred was still alive though, because she is the corporeal being of Illyria.. and as for Darla, she was great in season 3 (i think) of Angel, and they should of included her on opening credits on that season too! For Cordelia, if she stays in Buffy I see her being killed off on the series finale similar to Anya's death. But since she moved to Angel, her death is more meaningful, and she actaully ascended because she is a higher being now. And as for Tara, she deserved much much better! She should had been included on opening credits since season 5 all the way through series finale, and never killed off!
@@theunimpressedbeetch Yes I think Tara should’ve been a series regular for Buffy in season 5-6 and Darla should’ve been a series regular for Angel seasons 2-3. I think Darla’s arc is tragic because she really never had a chance when she was brought back. Then with Cordelia I feel like it would’ve been better if she never ascended. And with Illyria, I wasn’t a fan of that story arc at all. Even though Amy Acker did great in that role, I just thought it was a poor decision.
I loved willow and Tara. I watched this show when I was young and it was the first lgbtq couple I ever saw and it really helped me find myself out over the years. This relationship is so important to me and now that I’m older and I do identify with the lgbtq+ community I understand a lot more about this show. Taras death was absolutely heart breaking and everytime I hear the song “goodbye to you” I start crying. I truly think this show was one of the best to ever exist and Tara and willow are definitely one of my favourite tv couples of all time
i love willow and tara, always will. But it bugs me that they couldn't identify willow as bi. She defintely loved Oz, and she loved Xander for years. So, just cause she loved Tara doesn't mean that her love for men is not real!
From what I understand, the reason that they decided to label her as totally gay from her relationship with Tara forward was because Joss was worried that the gay community would take that as a betrayal and tar and feather them if she ever was seen as anything but a lesbian in relationships with women. After such a lovely portrayal as a same sex couple, that may have appeared to invalidate homosexuality, especially if she ever dated another man. Of course, it would have been just as brave and more realistic if she were identified to be bi. I think that it actually ended up invalidating Oz, and what their relationship meant to Willow and to the fans.
Plenty of people I know who now identify as lesbian did in fact have boyfriends first. Ironically, it's like being straight was just going through a phase :-)
chris4072511 it's not about having a boyfriend so much as Willow actually loved and was attracted to both Xander and Oz. People who usually go through the heterosexual phase don't have those they may like the person and like the physical part bexause of the mechanics involved but there's no attraction (like an aro/ace person who tries relationships). Making Willow more likely bisexual with a preference for women
Joss Whedon gave us one of the best written, truly good characters of all time in Tara. We grew to love this gem from season 4 to season 6. And then Joss ripped out our hearts with a single murderous action by a character who made rats seem like upstanding citizens.
Agreed. Tara's death was for me worst then Joyce's although that ep was a masterpiece (The ep in which Joyce dies) And I never understood why Willow with all that power coursing through her veins simply didn't cast a time travel spell to go back in time and make her move away from that bloody window? Why does she give up only because that Minosse-thing said that it was done? She had the power to bloody summon Persephone and you are telling me that she didn't even think about something like time travel wtf? This is why I never moved on from her death because I feel like there was something that could have been done to avoid it.
One of the unwritten rules of the Buffy-verse is that magic can't/isn't permitted to interfere in the natural course of events. Tara died an entirely mundane death, with nothing supernatural about it, so magic couldn't touch it; Buffy died (the second time) a magical death, so magic could restore her to life. Buffy's first (and third) death was mundane, but within the scope of mundane resuscitation.
rmsgrey The first time Buffy dies is entirely magical, the Master kills her... anyway I know what you are saying but Willow is different she is not a "Normal" magical user as we saw in s7, Willow for all intents and purposes it's a Goddess and she kills that Minosse-thing that impose that rule and there was not only the time travel spell, she could have removed the bullet like she does for Buffy, she could have put a spell of restoration and I can go on. I think that simply he wanted to go on with his story like he always does and not caring too much about this. Not flaming mind you I do like Joss he is a genius but this death and Anya's (Totally uneccesary there were other characters that could have died instead) are the only things for which I resent him a bit :D
Buffy's first death is drowning in a pool of water. Yes, the Master drained her immediately before that, but non-lethally. Xander's resuscitation works because she only drowned, rather than being killed by blood-loss or a killing spell. You might want to look at btvschosen.com/s8/ep_free.php - a fan continuation of the series (currently on indefinite hiatus in the middle of S9, but their S8 is worth it). And, yeah, the real reason Tara couldn't be resurrected is because she needed to die for the story (much like Joyce couldn't be resurrected in S5). But it is consistent with the rest of the Buffy-verse - interactions with mortals are strictly limited, particularly when it comes to greater magics, and major magic always has a price...
rmsgrey You are right, sorry I only remembered the Master biting her. I understand what you are saying but to me is still something that was treated way too lightly. Joyce's death warranted an entire episode and it was in line with her illness, still sudden but still it wasn't completely out of nowhere. Tara's was sudden, out of nowhere and it was "discarded" way too soon, Willow only summons the Minosse-thing and she doesn't try anything else, that to me was unacceptable. He could have shown us Willow trying everything and when everything didn't work go on like she did. I'm sorry I won't change my opinion about this. Major magic always has a price but only when it's dark though because when Willow uses a major quantity of light magic (The Scythe spell) she becomes a Goddess and in the comics not only she time-travels but she moves in other dimensions and so on...So really the rules he did bend them when he wanted to. Joss was and still is someone that really doesn't care much about ppl, he does his story like he plans and there is no way around it :D
Dark Willow is the character I can relate the most of all show I have watched. I felt the same pain of losing everything you love in life in a short time frame and this anger, this pain, this sadness, the despair, gosh if I had superpowers, I'd probably acted the same way. Alyson Hannigan is a very powerful actress.
Rosemarie Hathaway They definitely have a bond created from being a part of something so huge. You can tell how humble they are too. Love when actors are actually friends in real life when they play characters who are close to each other.
Tara's death could've so easily been avoided, if they were on the other side of the room, or not in the room at all, or if the bullet just was shot in a different direction, but nope, the writers just wanted dark willow
the writers were pointing to Dark Willow since the begining of season 6, Willow had a conversation with Giles and she even threaten him during a second and the next second she changed and tried to charm him.
I am trans. I am a lesbian. Willow and Tara helped me realize who I am. Seeing them together made so much more sense to me than any hetero relationship I'd seen in the movies or on TV before.
Whispie have you watched the swedish lesbian movie 'fucking åmål'? It's called show me love I believe in english. I had the same situation with this movie and buffy, crying every time, anyways you look so cute want a date or something
Agreed. Joss and the writers always seemed way to trigger happy when it came to characters. I mean, there were some deaths that made sense for the story and the characters (Joyce, and Doyle on Angel, for example) but most of the time, it just seemed to be for shock value more than anything. Tara's death was especially cruel and needless, to both the character and to poor Amber.
I know its wheedon and whatnot but willow and tara means/meant the world to me... shows are make up of so many writers and actors and people, to have the main creator of the story insist on this relationship meant so much to me watching it (years later). I love Buffy so much for the feminist narrative AND this relationship, I adore Buffy so much for this its hard to even conceptualize the criticism for it. As it stands, as a narrative, a story, I am so so so grateful that Buffy exists.
Don't get me wrong they all look FANTASTIC but I love that Tara, the most underrated beauty in the original cast, aged the best! David and Sarah in close second, and then there's just Charisma who was as visually unfair then as she is now 😂😂
I remember when this happened on Buffy and the reactions from all of the adults around me. I remember not understanding the problem, and also hearing them say "Why are they shoving this down our throats? This is all shock factor." I'm so glad to say those same people who said that have grown and changed since then.
I’m glad their kiss happened in “the body” ep . the fact that joss had to threaten to quit to get it in the episode is crazy to me but it was before my time.
Buffy was always an amazing show. Every character on there was written sooo well! Hell even when they brought Dracula on it was cool because we have Buffy being enthralled sort of by the biggest vampire who turns out to be well really forgettable lol! Willow and Tara together was the best thing ever and Willow going all dark when Tara died was so sad.
Producers: Hey we have exciting news! Amber Benson: Do I get to kill some demons in season 6? Producers: Even better. You have to find another job! YIKES!
I started watching buffy when I was 4 I’m 23 next week and I’m in the middle of re watching all the seasons and looking back it’s crazy how I never questioned two girls being together? I just never thought anything of it? It was just there get me? It didn’t bother me at all it seemed normal. It’s crazy just goes to show your taught to be ignorant most times doesn’t it. Willow and Tara forever 💜
Same. I started watching the show 21 years ago at age 6, so I was 8 or 9-ish?? when Tara and Willow started out and yeah, same. It was totally a non-issue. They were just another cute couple. Seemed no different than Oz and Willow.
Buffy i think was one of the best top 5 shows in the mid 90s! I watched it every night before bed when i was a kid my mom let me watch it no one could bother me i was zoned right in. When Willow dated Tara & both were witches omg it was awesome!
Oh,glad to see them again i'm late. But Willow and Tara story's great and I cry so much when Tara die,it's like why a powerful witch can't undo using her power to bring back the one she love but also that's a lesson to learn not everything can be done by magic there are limitations and rules over natural cause of death. They still look so beautiful.
I remember loving this couple on the show when it was originally airing and actively rooting for them to get back together after Tara leaves Willow. But now, further removed from the initial warm fuzzies, all I can say is: WTF was Tara thinking when she went back to Willow. I'm not going to say she shouldn't have forgiven Willow, that's her choice. I just feel like Willow effectively roofied her multiple times with magic. How do you go back to someone after that?
In my childhood Tara and Willow was first lesbian couple for me. It was so fresh, I not understand all kind of their relationships but I truly ehjoy what one of the most popular show has this pair, it help me when I started thinking about my sexuality
Why does Joss's explanation of Willow finding a girlfriend sound like it was supposed to be for shock value and not actual self-discovery? I love her and Tara together, but it sounds like the success of their character was because of the other people involved in the process, not Joss trying to one-up Willow's prior relationship.
The most heartbreaking thing about Tara's death is how accidental it was. She wasn't even in the scene with Warren; she was just alone in a room with Willow. She was like those children that are killed in drive-by shootings: a pure soul, who had nothing to do with that fight, yet she dies because a hateful character decides to shoot people, and then a stray bullet ends her, right in front of her beloved.
the fawn
I like how he says “we’ll just give her a girlfriend in college” but there was foreshadowing! Vampire Willow...Willow “I’m so evil and skanky and I think I’m kind of gay”
Joss planned for either Willow or Xander to be gay or bi from very early on. From what I remember, the executives were not on board then. But he dropped hints for both characters over time (like Xander being very into Riley or the way he talked about Spike sometimes, or Larry thinking he was gay, like him) and when Seth decided to leave the show, it was a perfect opportunity.
I really love this couple a lot. It meant so much to me.
still sad they ruined it with that new girlfriend that came out of nowhere, when Willow and Tara had such a beautiful build up to their relationship.
According to SMG a lot of things were planned from the beginning (Dawn, Willow turning evil/Gay).
@@corcor1122 I don't think Willow turned evil, per say. She just went off the rails for half a season, that's all. She got better, I don't know why people keep saying that.
@@A_Blessed_Diamond she tried to end the world....if she had just killed warren in a fit of passion I'd say she went off the rails. But she then tried to kill Johnathan and Andrew. Killed the one wizard for more power, drained the magic from all of the darkest spell books in the magic box. Threatened to turn Dawn back into the key, summoned tree root monsters to kill Buffy and Dawn, and also would have most likely killed Anya and Buffy had Giles not interfeared. I'd say that's pretty evil.
@@corcor1122 Ok- yeah, that was evil. But she didn't stay like that. Maybe I feel this way because when I got the spoiler I had the impression that she was evil for like the rest of the series.
After Tara dies, it’s hard seeing anyone else being willows girlfriend. They just had that chemistry that no one else to replace.
@Logia SD fr
@Logia SD It always felt like they made Kennedy her girlfriend for the sake of giving Willow a girlfriend. It just felt forced.
@Logia SD literally Kennedy was the worst
@@tylerdude1982 Exactly. Willow's arc in the final season should have been about grieving for Tara, about recovering from her magic addiction and finally her redemption. Willow getting a new girlfriend when Xander and Buffy wound up still single in the end, like you said, felt forced.
After she died, I didn't really watch the show.
Tara's death was one of the most traumatizing things I've seen on television. Like I was *traumatized*. Still not over it after all this time.
yeah that felt like real grief.😢😢
My heart broke when that happen
My heart is still breaking now...!:"-(((
thats how you know its an amazing show, when you feel genuine emotions from it
Thanks I'm not alone. I discovered the show very late (2 years ago) and I didn't know about Tara's death. It was a big shock and I still feel so sad sometimes, just thinking about it. It was so violent :/
The whole addiction story arc aside, Willow had the best relationships. Both Oz and Tara were loving, treated her as an equal, with respect, appreciation and support. It was everything one could hope for really, the wholesome counterbalance to all the messed up crap everybody else was going through on the regular.
No kidding. I mean when Angel and Buffy went to hell in a handbasket and Xander went and fell for Cordy, Willow got Oz, one of the coolest dudes on the show. He played in a band, he had a van, 3x out the month, was a wolf-man, was so chill, never pilled, and when he was around, he was only for Will.
Then came Tara 😍 need I say more? Yes, quite shy, and I never got why, but why oh why did she have to die? Never got why she wasn't brought into the Scoobies till Season 5, not on the dot. Love Tara, and Oz. Willow became an inspiration to Tara because of Oz, and became what can only be described as a Goddess because of Tara.
But then there's Kennedy. She's not bad. But the bar had become quite high by Season Seven. Let's just say, instead of introducing a new character, they should brought Oz back for Season Seven
Bisexual Willow appreciation
Right? Talking about relationships Willow won 😂
@@Kratos-GodOfWar Yes 100% I was expecting Oz back
Agreed. I think Oz and Tarea were the only people for Willow.
I love that Alyson Hannigan is horrified on Amber's hehalf about the way the news was broken to her.
okmega they have amazing chemistry
100% agreed! I LOVE that she said something as well. That means a lot and in that kind of setting it's not easy to say, nor is it easy with her having been on the show, wanting to keep good professional relationships, etc. I honestly can't believe they delivered that news in that way which feels incredibly insensitive on multiple levels.
yeah she def knows Joss is a POS lol
Just to see Alyson Hannigan and Amber Benson sitting next to each other and laughing is a gift. Makes it easier to imagine she's still alive in an alternate dimension.
Did anyone else notice? When this episode aired, Amber Benson was included in the opening cast credits for the first and only time. In every other episode, she was listed after the first commercial break. I think it was very commendable for the production team to thank her for her contributions to the show by elevating her to 'top-billing' status for her last episode.
Actually, joss always wanted to kill someone in their first episode with 'top-billing'. He would have done it with jesse, but they didn't have enough money for two sets of credits.
Personally I dont understand why she wasnt in the opening credits from season 5 onwards. She was an integral part of the team at that point. David Boreanaz would randomly appear for a couple of scenes in the early episodes and yet he was given top billing. The same with Charisma Carpenter. Literally everyone that was ever a part of the scoobies was in the credits except Amber Benson.
@@jamesvela maybe because she wasn't part of the group. Her and willow were there own thing.
@@tylerdurden788 What are you talking about? Tara figured out the Buffy and Faith switch, Tara was accepted as part of the gang in Family, Tara fought in the final Glory battle, Tara was there for Joyce's funeral, Buffy confided in Tara about Spike, Anya and Tara hung out, Buffy hung with Tara, Tara helped resurrect Buffy, Tara babysat Dawn, Tara sung in a lot of the musical episode and everyone was upset when she died.
@@abandonedfragmentofhope5415 true lol
Tara's death was so shocking cause it came out of NO WHERE. Then we get the awesome Dark Willow.
The one villain that Buffy couldn't defeat. Behind Angelus, Dark Willow was the best.
So true
You mean DARTH Willow, don't you?
@xheralt To be fair GRRM had released the first three books in ASOIAF which includes Ned Starks death and the Red Wedding before Buffy ever killed of Tara.
I'll grant you this was one of the first time I remember a TV show killing of one of the main characters and i n such a manner, but GRRM was already way down that road as well.
@Michael Holm Remember that BTVS also killed off Jenny. And Joyce. And Buffy herself, although she was brought back at the start of the next season.
How is it possible that Amber Benson got even prettier?
Lost weight. And they didn't go out of their way to make her hot back then. She was supposed to be a shy, nerdy girl.
She’s smokin’ hot 🔥
She freaking gorgeous omfg 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Love that blue streak in her hair!
Sugar Daddy Some people look better with more weight for example me. Hairstyle and makeup make her look hotter.
AU where Tara lives and they go on to be the coolest middle-aged lesbian couple.
Middle-age??
@@SincertyPatrick If this was made 3 years ago then Amber would have been 40 and Alyson would have been 43.
80 to 86 is probably a reasonable life expectancy for a woman in western countries.
So yes, middle-aged. Though based on appearance I would have thought they were younger.
We almost got that with the scrapped special wish episode.
Really Conner middle aged ???
@@ann-gq3lc they're both in their 40s now. Is that not usually considered middle-aged? No shade to them, Tara can still get it.
Amber Benson is so awesome. She really made Tara a great character. Broke my heart every time she and Willow fought. She looks great in this video, too.
It's interesting that the most affecting deaths in the show were both not supernatural. Buffy's mom was awful and it was illness, Tara was murdered by a common gun in the hands of a human. I think the power of that is relatability. A death by a demon isn't going to strike home like a death any one could face. The horror of the surprise of it in a world filled with so much fantasy. Both were so sudden and traumatic experiences for the characters.
I think Jenny's death was pretty disturbing as well. Even what came after, it was so vile and horrifying.
Her death was the most heartbreaking one of the entire show.
Witcher Crafts Hers, Joyce's, Jenny's - tough call. That show certainly knew how to kill women.
@@digitig Yea I think The Body was the toughest to watch because it was so uber realistic but I have to say the loss of Tara hurt me worse overall. Jenny was rough too and man Passion was maybe the first episode where I realized wow this show is for real.
@@joefriedman9843 The Body both the best and most painful episode of TV I've ever seen, but Tara's death was easily the most enraging thing ever done on this show. And the fact that she was in the credits for one episode and then dead still makes me angry. She should have been there since the beginning of season six.
One of the best relationships ever on television, so truthful and honest and amazingly written, acted and directed.
alysons wtf face after amber was saying how tara dying was like exciting news
i think it is because Joss Whedon didn't have a good/healthy director relationship with her.
He could be aggressive on set and wasn't even allowed to be on the set with Dawn/Michelle
I love that these two still have “chemistry” (I know they’re not gay or a real couple) but they clearly worked well together and that’s why the relationship was so authentic and believable. I love the fact that they didn’t overly shove the gay narrative in your face. They weren’t used for some kind of titillation they were just (willow and Tara) a couple.
The one person who gave this a thumbs down is Warren.
God damnit Warren!
Flayed a way lot. Also, 'First' puppet.
Or Kennedy because she's jealous...
Or Oz..... :D Tara was anti-anti-werewolf.
Nope, Kennedy made 3 different accounts just to dislike this video
I remember not getting why such a huge deal was made about Willow and Tara. I was just like “Yeah they love each other.” I think that speaks to how well the story was written. I, as a young kid, never even saw anything different or wrong about it. It was just an awesome relationship.
I can never unsee that scene or unhear the words "your shirt" the ONLY thing that made it bearable was seeing Warren get skinned alive!
Haha yeah that skinning scene was awesome. Funny thing is though that Adam Busch who played Warren and Tara went out in real life for like 7 years, made movies together and are still BFF. Shows you what good actors they all were.
I'm bored now.
@@debpugs2734 my favorite line from that episode is when she goes to that dark arts book places her hand on it absorbs everything from it and says two words...thats better!
Isn't it crazy that Warren and Tara are married in real life!
@@assilem717 Pretty sure they broke up a while again, and never got married, they just dated,
Amber and Alli are still so gorgeous. Tara's death and Joyce's death were the two most *devastating* things to endure as a fan of the show. I loved Tara so much! I loved her calmness, her delicate beauty. She and Willow had great chemistry. I sobbed.
Supposedly buffy was to get one wish at the end of season 7 and when she goes home to see willow she steps aside and reveals Tara back from the dead good as new. That would have been so heartwarming to see.
"we have exciting news!! You don't have a job anymore!!!"
Wowww Amber's eyes
She's so beautiful and talented ❣️
To me, Willow & Tara is the best love story of all time. 💔
Yes
Until Willow gives her the magical equivalent to a date rape drug.
Yeah, but - neither one of them are gay.
@@marilynking4003 Does it matter? They're actors. Gays have been playing straight for years *cough* Rock Hudson *cough*.
@@dante6985 Nope. they're actresses, and very good actresses. :)
Their relationship was something you never really saw on television before. Their first kiss was so SHOCKING, in a bad way for some but in an unexpectedly great way for others! They were honestly my favorite relationship on the entire show. I think I was more affected by Tara's death than Buffy's moms....
Me too. Don't get me wrong Joyce's death shocked the hell out of me and it resulted in one ep that for me was a masterpiece but Tara's death left me with a little part of me broken. My OTP, the relationship that kept reminding me that it was ok for me to like other girls, that it was possible to have people around you that accepted you were gone...just like that...they survived a hell God but a human piece of shit took my Tara away, I'm still upset to this day.
“a tiny piece of metal.”
Roxxy Love they definitely had the most healthy relationship on the entire show. Probably even the healthiest relationship Joss Whedon ever wrote.
@@briannabrickey444 I think Wash and Zoe are the healthiest relationship Joss ever wrote.
I agree. I don't understand though why Hush got an Emmy but The Body did not. Michelle Trachtenberg fainting in the school hall was amazing.
Amber Benson is adorable.
Yes. They wanted someone more waif-like and thought she was physically wrong for the part, but she nailed the vulnerability of the character in the audition.
"I am you know"
"What?"
"Yours..."
I like to think that Lily on How I Met your mother, having those gay moments with Robin, was a nod to Willow from Buffy.
Also when Lily&Marshall were choosing the names for their kids and Lily proposes Tara as name for a girl...:-3
it's because it was! :)
+Nicamon what episode?? 😮
RIGHT?!?!!!
😆✨😭🌸
I’m glad I wasn’t the only one~
And then Marshall responds, “NO NOT TARA!” Lol. They even made Lilly get those red eyes of doom when she’d get super mad. Always thought that was a nod to Dark Willow.
This made me wanna binge watch Buffy all over again. Take me baccck
Just when I thought I couldn't love Amber Benson more...she shows up in a beehive. She. Is. EVERYTHING.
Leo Apollo She is also a good fantasy novelist.
Really?! I must read her work! I’m such a sucker for the beehive as well. I love Amber
they still make me smile and say aww in my 30s. off to season 4 5 and half of season 6
Still haven't forgiven Joss Whedon for Tara's death.
Wayward Nibiru he was supposed to write her coming back to life, however Amber was unavailable to film so we never got her back :(
@@buffysummers1003 Was that when Amber filmed a movie with Vin Diesel? She was great in it.
Tara, Cordelia, Fred, and Darla deserved better
@@StevenTyler94 Fred was still alive though, because she is the corporeal being of Illyria.. and as for Darla, she was great in season 3 (i think) of Angel, and they should of included her on opening credits on that season too! For Cordelia, if she stays in Buffy I see her being killed off on the series finale similar to Anya's death. But since she moved to Angel, her death is more meaningful, and she actaully ascended because she is a higher being now. And as for Tara, she deserved much much better! She should had been included on opening credits since season 5 all the way through series finale, and never killed off!
@@theunimpressedbeetch Yes I think Tara should’ve been a series regular for Buffy in season 5-6 and Darla should’ve been a series regular for Angel seasons 2-3. I think Darla’s arc is tragic because she really never had a chance when she was brought back. Then with Cordelia I feel like it would’ve been better if she never ascended. And with Illyria, I wasn’t a fan of that story arc at all. Even though Amy Acker did great in that role, I just thought it was a poor decision.
"It wasn't meant to hurt anybody"
Are you fucking kidding, it BROKE me lol
I loved willow and Tara. I watched this show when I was young and it was the first lgbtq couple I ever saw and it really helped me find myself out over the years. This relationship is so important to me and now that I’m older and I do identify with the lgbtq+ community I understand a lot more about this show. Taras death was absolutely heart breaking and everytime I hear the song “goodbye to you” I start crying. I truly think this show was one of the best to ever exist and Tara and willow are definitely one of my favourite tv couples of all time
HOW is Amber Benson even more stunning now?? Like she just gets more and more gorgeous every year. Goodness gracious 😍
lol hannigan at the end watching Benson being all correct and defending the story n the just basically going "yeah no but it still sucked .." 😂
"Great news! You're going to be out of a job!"
Yup. That's a great thing to tell any actor. Closely followed by, "the network cancelled our show". That's why we need good agents.
Their characters helped me come out. Truly. Thank you Alison and Amber, thank you Joss.
i love willow and tara, always will. But it bugs me that they couldn't identify willow as bi. She defintely loved Oz, and she loved Xander for years. So, just cause she loved Tara doesn't mean that her love for men is not real!
I concur.
I totally agree. Why were they so afraid to call her bisexual?
From what I understand, the reason that they decided to label her as totally gay from her relationship with Tara forward was because Joss was worried that the gay community would take that as a betrayal and tar and feather them if she ever was seen as anything but a lesbian in relationships with women. After such a lovely portrayal as a same sex couple, that may have appeared to invalidate homosexuality, especially if she ever dated another man. Of course, it would have been just as brave and more realistic if she were identified to be bi. I think that it actually ended up invalidating Oz, and what their relationship meant to Willow and to the fans.
Plenty of people I know who now identify as lesbian did in fact have boyfriends first. Ironically, it's like being straight was just going through a phase :-)
chris4072511 it's not about having a boyfriend so much as Willow actually loved and was attracted to both Xander and Oz. People who usually go through the heterosexual phase don't have those they may like the person and like the physical part bexause of the mechanics involved but there's no attraction (like an aro/ace person who tries relationships). Making Willow more likely bisexual with a preference for women
Joss Whedon gave us one of the best written, truly good characters of all time in Tara. We grew to love this gem from season 4 to season 6.
And then Joss ripped out our hearts with a single murderous action by a character who made rats seem like upstanding citizens.
Agreed. Tara's death was for me worst then Joyce's although that ep was a masterpiece (The ep in which Joyce dies) And I never understood why Willow with all that power coursing through her veins simply didn't cast a time travel spell to go back in time and make her move away from that bloody window? Why does she give up only because that Minosse-thing said that it was done? She had the power to bloody summon Persephone and you are telling me that she didn't even think about something like time travel wtf? This is why I never moved on from her death because I feel like there was something that could have been done to avoid it.
One of the unwritten rules of the Buffy-verse is that magic can't/isn't permitted to interfere in the natural course of events. Tara died an entirely mundane death, with nothing supernatural about it, so magic couldn't touch it; Buffy died (the second time) a magical death, so magic could restore her to life. Buffy's first (and third) death was mundane, but within the scope of mundane resuscitation.
rmsgrey
The first time Buffy dies is entirely magical, the Master kills her... anyway I know what you are saying but Willow is different she is not a "Normal" magical user as we saw in s7, Willow for all intents and purposes it's a Goddess and she kills that Minosse-thing that impose that rule and there was not only the time travel spell, she could have removed the bullet like she does for Buffy, she could have put a spell of restoration and I can go on. I think that simply he wanted to go on with his story like he always does and not caring too much about this. Not flaming mind you I do like Joss he is a genius but this death and Anya's (Totally uneccesary there were other characters that could have died instead) are the only things for which I resent him a bit :D
Buffy's first death is drowning in a pool of water. Yes, the Master drained her immediately before that, but non-lethally. Xander's resuscitation works because she only drowned, rather than being killed by blood-loss or a killing spell.
You might want to look at btvschosen.com/s8/ep_free.php - a fan continuation of the series (currently on indefinite hiatus in the middle of S9, but their S8 is worth it).
And, yeah, the real reason Tara couldn't be resurrected is because she needed to die for the story (much like Joyce couldn't be resurrected in S5). But it is consistent with the rest of the Buffy-verse - interactions with mortals are strictly limited, particularly when it comes to greater magics, and major magic always has a price...
rmsgrey
You are right, sorry I only remembered the Master biting her. I understand what you are saying but to me is still something that was treated way too lightly. Joyce's death warranted an entire episode and it was in line with her illness, still sudden but still it wasn't completely out of nowhere. Tara's was sudden, out of nowhere and it was "discarded" way too soon, Willow only summons the Minosse-thing and she doesn't try anything else, that to me was unacceptable. He could have shown us Willow trying everything and when everything didn't work go on like she did. I'm sorry I won't change my opinion about this. Major magic always has a price but only when it's dark though because when Willow uses a major quantity of light magic (The Scythe spell) she becomes a Goddess and in the comics not only she time-travels but she moves in other dimensions and so on...So really the rules he did bend them when he wanted to. Joss was and still is someone that really doesn't care much about ppl, he does his story like he plans and there is no way around it :D
Dark Willow is the character I can relate the most of all show I have watched.
I felt the same pain of losing everything you love in life in a short time frame and this anger, this pain, this sadness, the despair, gosh if I had superpowers, I'd probably acted the same way. Alyson Hannigan is a very powerful actress.
Is it just me, or does Alyson Hannigan seem every bit as sweet as Willow?
Willow and Tara changed my life for the WAAAY better..
Shannon Lee me too
Did anyone else think they are EXACTLY like Willow and Tara? I mean the way they were talking and laughing..
Rosemarie Hathaway They definitely have a bond created from being a part of something so huge. You can tell how humble they are too. Love when actors are actually friends in real life when they play characters who are close to each other.
Will and Tara's relationship was one of the best in the show! They still melt my heart after all these years! 💞 -Nov 2020
The sadness death in Buffy was Tara and Buffy mom
My Willow and Tara heart ❤️
Tara's death could've so easily been avoided, if they were on the other side of the room, or not in the room at all, or if the bullet just was shot in a different direction, but nope, the writers just wanted dark willow
the writers were pointing to Dark Willow since the begining of season 6, Willow had a conversation with Giles and she even threaten him during a second and the next second she changed and tried to charm him.
Amber Benson’s laugh could melt icebergs ❤️
Damn, what happened to Tara? Like wine she got better with age!
She really did!
Tara's death is the first and only tv death i've ever really mourned...i still can't watch the "your shirt" scene without crying.
I found it stupid all the time that Amber Benson was never in the credits but on the day that Tara dies there is Amber in the credits
Whedon actually first wanted to do that on the pilot to the actor who played the character, Jesse.
I was heartbroken for days following Tara's death. It still gets to me.
those dresses 01:47 - miss them
Wow... they still look like they could be a couple...
Man miss those days being younger binge watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer
everyone here should look up passion of the nerd. He makes every episode so much deeper, I know its too many months too late
I know right!! I've been a subscription of Ian's page since he ended season 1 began season 2.
its never too late im gonna do that now thank you :)
Great to see these two back together again.
What I loved most was that there wasn't any unnecessary emphasis put on their relationship. They were just two girls in a relationship. Natural.
Tara's death is still the most surprising and emotionally devastating experience I've ever had watching a TV show. The Red Wedding comes in second.
I am trans. I am a lesbian. Willow and Tara helped me realize who I am. Seeing them together made so much more sense to me than any hetero relationship I'd seen in the movies or on TV before.
I'm also gay, and I grew up with BtVS. When Willow and Tara first fell in love, I remember going like "oh. .... OH. Okay. Yeah, that makes sense."
So am I! I actually chose Allison as my name (normalizing the spelling a bit) as a tribute...
Same. I am so glad characters like Willow have popped up. It helps make the lgbtq community get exposure and helps people understand us better.
Whispie have you watched the swedish lesbian movie 'fucking åmål'? It's called show me love I believe in english. I had the same situation with this movie and buffy, crying every time, anyways you look so cute want a date or something
Same it's so good to find people who love and accept you
Alyson Hannigan is so beautiful.
What a horribly cruel way for Whedon to tell Amber Benson that her character was being killed. No matter she wouldn't come back.
Agreed. Joss and the writers always seemed way to trigger happy when it came to characters. I mean, there were some deaths that made sense for the story and the characters (Joyce, and Doyle on Angel, for example) but most of the time, it just seemed to be for shock value more than anything. Tara's death was especially cruel and needless, to both the character and to poor Amber.
I know its wheedon and whatnot but willow and tara means/meant the world to me... shows are make up of so many writers and actors and people, to have the main creator of the story insist on this relationship meant so much to me watching it (years later). I love Buffy so much for the feminist narrative AND this relationship, I adore Buffy so much for this its hard to even conceptualize the criticism for it. As it stands, as a narrative, a story, I am so so so grateful that Buffy exists.
Don't get me wrong they all look FANTASTIC but I love that Tara, the most underrated beauty in the original cast, aged the best! David and Sarah in close second, and then there's just Charisma who was as visually unfair then as she is now 😂😂
yes, Amber looks fantastic.
I think Charisma has aged the best. She was older than the rest when shooting Buffy and she still looks as beautiful
Pearl of a Girl Nursery
ARE WE FORGETTING JAMES MARSTERS THIUGH? He aged beautifully!!!!!!
akaash92 Eeuhm plastic surgery much? Also Alyson her lips, djeez 😭
"I have Good News! We're going to kill your Character!!"
"You guys need to rephrase this.."
Hahah
I remember when this happened on Buffy and the reactions from all of the adults around me. I remember not understanding the problem, and also hearing them say "Why are they shoving this down our throats? This is all shock factor." I'm so glad to say those same people who said that have grown and changed since then.
I’m glad their kiss happened in “the body” ep . the fact that joss had to threaten to quit to get it in the episode is crazy to me but it was before my time.
Tara didn't replace Oz, Tara was the next stepping stone because Seth Green can't be replaced
I literally just watched the scene where Tara dies tonight and just sobbed. It still gets me, after all this time.
Смъртта на Тара определено бе като гръм от ясно небе за феновете. Гениален ход на сценаристите.
"We have exciting news!!!"... your getting FIRED!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hahahahahha!
Buffy was always an amazing show. Every character on there was written sooo well! Hell even when they brought Dracula on it was cool because we have Buffy being enthralled sort of by the biggest vampire who turns out to be well really forgettable lol! Willow and Tara together was the best thing ever and Willow going all dark when Tara died was so sad.
Producers: Hey we have exciting news!
Amber Benson: Do I get to kill some demons in season 6?
Producers: Even better. You have to find another job!
YIKES!
I started watching buffy when I was 4 I’m 23 next week and I’m in the middle of re watching all the seasons and looking back it’s crazy how I never questioned two girls being together? I just never thought anything of it? It was just there get me? It didn’t bother me at all it seemed normal. It’s crazy just goes to show your taught to be ignorant most times doesn’t it. Willow and Tara forever 💜
Same. I started watching the show 21 years ago at age 6, so I was 8 or 9-ish?? when Tara and Willow started out and yeah, same. It was totally a non-issue. They were just another cute couple. Seemed no different than Oz and Willow.
Alysson and Amber!!!....Love....
Buffy i think was one of the best top 5 shows in the mid 90s! I watched it every night before bed when i was a kid my mom let me watch it no one could bother me i was zoned right in. When Willow dated Tara & both were witches omg it was awesome!
I totally loved the Willow and Tara relationship!!
Oh,glad to see them again i'm late. But Willow and Tara story's great and I cry so much when Tara die,it's like why a powerful witch can't undo using her power to bring back the one she love but also that's a lesson to learn not everything can be done by magic there are limitations and rules over natural cause of death. They still look so beautiful.
I miss Buffy being on Netflix.
Still on Hulu
I loved oz so much...great character and always loved seth green...wish hed have come back
Ambers outfit here🖤
I loved these characters.
How ironic this video was followed by a Pureflix ad.
This was a major game changer for teenage gay people at that time!
This relationship saved my life!
This was a lovely interview. But yeah, rephrase it! lmao
I miss Willow and Tara!!!
The openning line made me chock on my coffee, man I love AH
Pretty new to the series but my god these two were a gift.
I still, to this day cannot watch Willow break the way she did in Xanders arms at the end of season 5. Alyson Hannigan is an exceptional actress.
I remember loving this couple on the show when it was originally airing and actively rooting for them to get back together after Tara leaves Willow. But now, further removed from the initial warm fuzzies, all I can say is: WTF was Tara thinking when she went back to Willow. I'm not going to say she shouldn't have forgiven Willow, that's her choice. I just feel like Willow effectively roofied her multiple times with magic. How do you go back to someone after that?
Tara`s death was the saddest part in the whole entire show :(
Jenny Calendar ?
In my childhood Tara and Willow was first lesbian couple for me. It was so fresh, I not understand all kind of their relationships but I truly ehjoy what one of the most popular show has this pair, it help me when I started thinking about my sexuality
Amber benson seems to feel so strongly and connected to her row as Tara.
I haven't read it yet, but did you know that Amber Benson went on to write a comic book on the adventures of Willow and Tara (events before season 6)
1:30 "I trust you." "It's not like anything that we've ever-" "I trust you." they're so cute together! hee!
..oh the alleged death of Tara? Yeah I retconned that. Didn't happen. LA LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU LA LA LA LA!
Why does Joss's explanation of Willow finding a girlfriend sound like it was supposed to be for shock value and not actual self-discovery? I love her and Tara together, but it sounds like the success of their character was because of the other people involved in the process, not Joss trying to one-up Willow's prior relationship.
Amber is an angel gracing us w her presence
"We're killing your character, yay!" Otherwise known as you're out of a job. How did Josh Whedon expect her to react to that? Lmao
Warren... I'm gonna cry... Deep breath... WAREEEEEN !!!
Oz - Willow - Tara: Perfect Triangle 💗
Buffy is the only show that character deaths have effected me that I still think about it over 20 years later
Natural chemistry