the whiplash of having the guy with the funny duck start manically describing how he's gonna teach us to kill the superego and become perfect humans got me too if it works for him it works for him, if that's the case i'm glad he's stable and well, but man does it sound like he isn't
Jamie, I dont know you personally obviously, I've only listened to you talk and share about your life and mental health. I'm really happy for you that you have found a way of being that is free of all anxiety, anger, depression etc. I respect you for wanting to share that, but as you said, people aren't very receptive. It's normal for humans to navigate the world by forming a sense of self, aka "me". Are you familiar with the mirror test? It's a phenomenon where humans and some other intelligent species are able to recognize their own reflection. That is evidence of having a sense of self, of looking at the image in the mirror and thinking "oh that's me, that's my face I'm looking at". I believe it was wirh the dolphin mirror test, the researchers marked one side of their cheek, and when they saw themselves in the mirror, the knew to rub their own cheek. Having a sense of self seems to be a very natural and instinctual way for humans to navigate life. As you said, if you have a sense of self, it gives you a reason to be angry, fearful, sad. If you eliminate your sense of self, there is no longer a reason to feel anything. The reason we fear, the reason we get angry, is that we are protecting "me". If something is insulting "me", it's instinctual to recognize these verbal attacks and be defensive and even angry about it. When bad things happen to "me", that's a reason to be sad and maybe even be motivated to do something that would inprove "me's" circumstance. Having a sense of "me"-someone to protect, someone to encourage, someone to believe in, that is the engine at the center of a human being. The way you somehow removed that and are still able to function is weird actually. I guess there is something else giving you meaning and reason to live. Your method works but is very counter intuitive. If spreading this message is what you want, I hope you succeed. Perhaps it will catch on and help a lot of people have perfect mental health. Not sure if you're saying this approach can address serious mental illness like clinical depression, PTSD, bipolar mood disorder, schizophrenia etc. Maybe you mean this approach can help people without diagnosable levels of mental health problems.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Most people don't want to think about not having "me" because it eliminates their reason for existing. I'd be curious to see Jamie's 'why' for existing every day. I can't necessarily agree with humans having a "default state of happiness" and that we can make that state a near-permanent one, but I'd be interested to hear the argument/proof from top to bottom before I write it off.
You're describing dissociation which takes all the fun out of life. You can't take away all negative emotions / anxiety (i.e. "perfect mental health") without also taking away happiness. Hopefully you address this when you flesh it out in a podcast.
This is not what I'm describing at all. I'm fundamentally saying that your default state is happiness and wellbeing, and that can be nearly permanently experienced unless you've accidentally harmed others. I hope I can address it further on the channel.
@@jamieschannel4034 "your default state is happiness and wellbeing" I find this hard to believe. Why then would babies still cry and toddlers act up from the moment they are born (and before they have "accidentally harmed others"). Idk how "accidentally harming others" is the source of the human nature of self-servingness that leads to greed, anger, jealousy, and other negative emotions.
@@sandygehrmann6309 Sure, crying isn't at all an emotion, it is a form of communication, although for most of us they are linked together and not noticed to be separate. If you are saying "..the human nature of self-servingness that leads to greed, anger, jealousy, and other negative emotions" then I would fundamentally say that this human nature is a complete mischaracterization and your own point of view. I'll leave it there, and if you're interested you can listen in to the other channel - challenge anything I say there if you'd like and I'm happy to respond. I understand what you're trying to suggest and all that I can say is that I'm not trying to encourage any sort of nihilism or dissociation, but a completely different thing.
@@jamieschannel4034 Sounds a bit of what Buddhists call "Nirvana", Epicureans "Ataraxia", and Stoics "Apatheia". Does any of these concepts come close to what you are describing?
I agree on splitting channels, it's been confusing trying to find your actualization content the last few years, and it seemed a long time ago that you achieved your mental breakthrough. Not so sure about this miracle and "perfect mental health " how does that even work. But I definitely want to hear more about it, hopefully in short order.
You can do all the substances/psychs in the world and it won't fix anything it can feel magical but you still need to do the work Edit: psychs helping addicts quit drugs could be a thing, some acid alcohol study is out there iirc
I will happily follow your progress and wish you the best of luck! As you said, the most difficult part with your realization is convincing others of how well it works-sadly, to the point of becoming maddening. For my own well-being, I have stopped talking to people about this unless they show an ounce of open-mindedness first. But hopefully you will find a better way to reach out and stay sane while doing it!
You know, my biggest “issue” with the whole “you’re not a self” idea is my own fear that it will take away a part or all of who I am. Like, yes my anxiety, anger, sadness, etc are not fun to deal with, but it’s ironically part of who I perceive myself to be. And the idea of being a different from that is kinda scary ngl. But it has always been something I’ve been intrigued with. I think I never got into it, because as you’ve mentioned, it’s usually tied with organized religion or spirituality of some kind that threw me off. But maybe your way of explaining it will penetrate my head. We shall see! Good luck!
I brag about my excellent meantal health a lot but i'm very curious to hear it.... because it has so many good roots that's really hard to replicate and talk about. Subscribed.
What you described is more or less how I've always understood the goal of traditional Buddhism to be. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it in more detail.
Cazy timing I just re-listened to the self realization video and honestly its kinda hard to break the programing I have around that. Glad to see there will be a place i can go for more!
never comment but I would plug "Two Zen Classics: The Gateless Gate and the Blue Cliff Records", which is essentially an explication of all things non-dual (the state you are describing) in the clearest possible terms and Sam Harris's "Waking Up" App which contains a large amount of conversations/meditations/etc on the topic of breaking the ego illusion
Taking a gap year to relearn how to be a person again rn. Looking forward to the podcast! Sounds it’s gonna hit VERY close to home in how I’ve been thinking about things lately. Good luck man!
i'm really curious on how this can be applied while facing adversity that's outside of your control. ex: discriminatory laws, being targeted by malicious people, & other things that are totally out of our control but can have profoundly negative impacts on us
I occasionally have nightmares despite moving past perceiving the world through the seperate construction that is the perceived self, negative emotions can still exist within me despite understanding what I am and accepting the self for what I've found it to be, largely through meditation and lately put into words by Buddhist teachings. Much of the things you describe line up with those concepts, and I do believe there are universal truths about the act of being conscious which can be found within and bring peace to the mind. Part of this is the fact that anyone can do so through compassionate exploration of ones own mind. I do not agree with your framing of the separation from the ego as the end all be all, and perhaps our definitions differ but I do not think happiness is this default state. Though a true default state is certainly serene, I experience it as just that, where as happiness is a kind visitor which inhabits the mind on the condition that it must leave again, and so is fear, such as the fear of harm towards a loved one, or the sorrow of betrayed trust. The mind is a lake, and emotions may rain into it and cause ripples but at it's most pure and "default" it still, like a blank mirror reflecting the sky. I think what you describe are part of a toolset to be in control of a satisfactory and meaningful life, but not as all encompassing as you present it, and certainly not switch that enables permanent happiness.
3 years, damn. I had somewhat simmilar thoughts for the last 3 months and yeah, talking with other people about it is tricky (I framed it like and ego-death type shit, where I assummed that I'm just a sum of my experiences, which I didn't choose). Making funny little jokes seems to be the best way to talk about it. Looking forward for your new stuff!
This is like reading about Meads concept of the “me” and the “I” and how we build a conception “self” of through adolescent development to use as a social object which which leads into a whole bunch of symbolic interactionalist stuff, super interesting and if you were familiar I’d love to hear what you’d have to say
Hey Jamie. Welcome to personal enlightenment. Enjoy you're travels in this new space and ignore the septic negativity that will inevitably come from the UA-cam commentariat 😎
I have a lot of respect for you... But saying you can achieve perfect mental health shows a great deal of ignorance about mental health. No psychologist would ever claim you can achieve perfect mental health. In fact, having ZERO anxiety isnt even healthy. Anxiety plays an important role in managing our behavior
Just because no psychologist would claim that doesn't mean it's not existing, the current state of any field is not its end state. What important role does anxiety play?
@@damianescobedo4143 To answer the second question: anxiety used to be fundamental to living (and still is, but its role has changed). It served as our fight or flight response, allowed us to have caution and awareness for potential threats, and allowed us to exercise vigilance which allowed us to survive a super harsh and super dangerous world where we were more often prey than predator (the majority of the human race doesn't have to worry about getting eaten by animals, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, etc.). That said, in the past, anxiety was all about survival. Now, it's less about survival--it's still important to exercise caution and be aware of your surroundings--and more about motivation and performance. _Acute_ anxiety, acute stress, has shown time and time again to be a powerfully positive tool. It is this prolonged state of heightened anxiety that is when things can go south. It's as if your fight-or-flight response is on all the time. That's not good for you.
Honestly I think you’ll be hamstrung by your dismissiveness towards “spirituality” and your view of this as “perfect”, as at least when it comes to the Buddhist/hindu traditions there’s so much more there w.r.t how the mind can operate than just the detachment from the ego that you’ve rediscovered here. You might view it as all woo woo nonsense right now, but it only seems that way when you don’t understand the phenomenon they’re explaining, similar to how many would be confused trying to understand the “perfect” mental state you describe if they haven’t experienced anything even adjacent to it before. There are thousands of years of deeper self inquiry than we could ever understand behind these traditions, and some humility is needed to go the distance here. Literally everything you describe has already been described in Vedic traditions, and that’s just the beginning
This! On the one hand it's amazing that he had such a life-changing perspective shift, on the other hand he's still ignorant to how much more there is, no wonder he thinks he's already at the end-all be -all.
@@nacho1595 He might have. Don't see how it's relevant if based on how he talks there's still progress to be made. Not that I think I know more, just more aware that there's a whole world to be explored. Just wishing he finally does an interview with Dr K 🤞
@bubidubi3149 What do you mean progress to be made? If you mean in the sense of self-enquiry/enlightenment on a personal level, I'd like to hear what you mean. If you mean in the sense of bringing awareness of this area of thought to more people, that's the purpose of the channel.
Most of the time I see people try and fet into the meaning of themselves and see it from a religious perspective, they almost always find meaning in joining the religion. Specially Islam where you would be surprised as to how someone converted to that when he is all the way over the other side. This is just to address the point of telling people religion is false or whatever was said in the middle of the video
If you have no anxiety now, why arent you doing stand up? Or posting under your full name? I think you have more self-analysis left to do then you realize.
Dudes will start a mental health podcast over just moving out of Victoria and fixing their mental health by not living in the most dreary city on earth
Your perfect mental is just being a robot? Why can’t we find a better way to be mentally healthy that incorporates our emotions, good and bad, into a more human-centric framework?
to be fair not exactly a robot, but ignorance is bliss and you should actually avoid some kind of interactions in order to more mental healthy yeah. But i'm curious to hear Jamie's opinion.
Jamie's cult leader arc is gonna be wild.
the whiplash of having the guy with the funny duck start manically describing how he's gonna teach us to kill the superego and become perfect humans got me too
if it works for him it works for him, if that's the case i'm glad he's stable and well, but man does it sound like he isn't
oh heck yeah i knew staying subscribed to this channel would pay off
Heck yeah brother!!!
heck yeah!
you hecking knew it!
Heck to the yeah to the ho ho!
This is the definition of ‘buying low and selling high’
cool. can't wait to see your first upload on the new channel in two years
So basically Casually Explained: Buddhism (but secular somehow)
buddhism is only a religion in name only. before it was called buddhism, it was teachings from the buddha (the awakened one).
I miss your life philosophical ramblings. Your voice is so soothing.
mmm spiritual advice from UA-cam stick man
me when funny stick man stays in so long he becomes a buddhist chat gpt
Jamie, I dont know you personally obviously, I've only listened to you talk and share about your life and mental health. I'm really happy for you that you have found a way of being that is free of all anxiety, anger, depression etc. I respect you for wanting to share that, but as you said, people aren't very receptive.
It's normal for humans to navigate the world by forming a sense of self, aka "me". Are you familiar with the mirror test? It's a phenomenon where humans and some other intelligent species are able to recognize their own reflection. That is evidence of having a sense of self, of looking at the image in the mirror and thinking "oh that's me, that's my face I'm looking at". I believe it was wirh the dolphin mirror test, the researchers marked one side of their cheek, and when they saw themselves in the mirror, the knew to rub their own cheek.
Having a sense of self seems to be a very natural and instinctual way for humans to navigate life. As you said, if you have a sense of self, it gives you a reason to be angry, fearful, sad. If you eliminate your sense of self, there is no longer a reason to feel anything.
The reason we fear, the reason we get angry, is that we are protecting "me". If something is insulting "me", it's instinctual to recognize these verbal attacks and be defensive and even angry about it. When bad things happen to "me", that's a reason to be sad and maybe even be motivated to do something that would inprove "me's" circumstance. Having a sense of "me"-someone to protect, someone to encourage, someone to believe in, that is the engine at the center of a human being.
The way you somehow removed that and are still able to function is weird actually. I guess there is something else giving you meaning and reason to live.
Your method works but is very counter intuitive.
If spreading this message is what you want, I hope you succeed. Perhaps it will catch on and help a lot of people have perfect mental health.
Not sure if you're saying this approach can address serious mental illness like clinical depression, PTSD, bipolar mood disorder, schizophrenia etc. Maybe you mean this approach can help people without diagnosable levels of mental health problems.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Most people don't want to think about not having "me" because it eliminates their reason for existing. I'd be curious to see Jamie's 'why' for existing every day. I can't necessarily agree with humans having a "default state of happiness" and that we can make that state a near-permanent one, but I'd be interested to hear the argument/proof from top to bottom before I write it off.
Lol Jamie whatever you do please don't become the Jim Jones of the 21st century
This is the arc I went through after watching Neon Genesis Evangelion
Lmao real, human instrumentality time baby
You're describing dissociation which takes all the fun out of life. You can't take away all negative emotions / anxiety (i.e. "perfect mental health") without also taking away happiness. Hopefully you address this when you flesh it out in a podcast.
This is not what I'm describing at all. I'm fundamentally saying that your default state is happiness and wellbeing, and that can be nearly permanently experienced unless you've accidentally harmed others. I hope I can address it further on the channel.
No.
@@jamieschannel4034 "your default state is happiness and wellbeing" I find this hard to believe. Why then would babies still cry and toddlers act up from the moment they are born (and before they have "accidentally harmed others"). Idk how "accidentally harming others" is the source of the human nature of self-servingness that leads to greed, anger, jealousy, and other negative emotions.
@@sandygehrmann6309 Sure, crying isn't at all an emotion, it is a form of communication, although for most of us they are linked together and not noticed to be separate. If you are saying "..the human nature of self-servingness that leads to greed, anger, jealousy, and other negative emotions" then I would fundamentally say that this human nature is a complete mischaracterization and your own point of view.
I'll leave it there, and if you're interested you can listen in to the other channel - challenge anything I say there if you'd like and I'm happy to respond. I understand what you're trying to suggest and all that I can say is that I'm not trying to encourage any sort of nihilism or dissociation, but a completely different thing.
@@jamieschannel4034 Sounds a bit of what Buddhists call "Nirvana", Epicureans "Ataraxia", and Stoics "Apatheia". Does any of these concepts come close to what you are describing?
Maybe some one needs to check on Jamie again?
For real. This stuff makes me worry MORE, not less, about his mental health.
@@jogandsp Why?
@@jogandsp What are you worried about?
Who is here since the days this was a BDSM Channel?
I agree on splitting channels, it's been confusing trying to find your actualization content the last few years, and it seemed a long time ago that you achieved your mental breakthrough.
Not so sure about this miracle and "perfect mental health " how does that even work. But I definitely want to hear more about it, hopefully in short order.
You can do all the substances/psychs in the world and it won't fix anything
it can feel magical but you still need to do the work
Edit: psychs helping addicts quit drugs could be a thing, some acid alcohol study is out there iirc
@ Are you replying to me?I'm confused
I will happily follow your progress and wish you the best of luck! As you said, the most difficult part with your realization is convincing others of how well it works-sadly, to the point of becoming maddening. For my own well-being, I have stopped talking to people about this unless they show an ounce of open-mindedness first. But hopefully you will find a better way to reach out and stay sane while doing it!
A content creator starting a podcast feels like the equivalent of a game going f2p
Casually Explained dropped a podcast before GTA 6
You know, my biggest “issue” with the whole “you’re not a self” idea is my own fear that it will take away a part or all of who I am.
Like, yes my anxiety, anger, sadness, etc are not fun to deal with, but it’s ironically part of who I perceive myself to be. And the idea of being a different from that is kinda scary ngl.
But it has always been something I’ve been intrigued with. I think I never got into it, because as you’ve mentioned, it’s usually tied with organized religion or spirituality of some kind that threw me off. But maybe your way of explaining it will penetrate my head. We shall see! Good luck!
Fine mr casually explained, You can have my subscription a third time.
B-but... What about Casually Explained?
I brag about my excellent meantal health a lot but i'm very curious to hear it.... because it has so many good roots that's really hard to replicate and talk about. Subscribed.
What you described is more or less how I've always understood the goal of traditional Buddhism to be. Looking forward to hearing your thoughts on it in more detail.
Cazy timing I just re-listened to the self realization video and honestly its kinda hard to break the programing I have around that. Glad to see there will be a place i can go for more!
never comment but I would plug "Two Zen Classics: The Gateless Gate and the Blue Cliff Records", which is essentially an explication of all things non-dual (the state you are describing) in the clearest possible terms and Sam Harris's "Waking Up" App which contains a large amount of conversations/meditations/etc on the topic of breaking the ego illusion
Calling you chill guy here on
Hey... Has Tom Cruise been around lately?
Casually opening the third eye for this one.
Taking a gap year to relearn how to be a person again rn. Looking forward to the podcast! Sounds it’s gonna hit VERY close to home in how I’ve been thinking about things lately. Good luck man!
Chapter 3: cult boogaloo
i'm really curious on how this can be applied while facing adversity that's outside of your control.
ex: discriminatory laws, being targeted by malicious people, & other things that are totally out of our control but can have profoundly negative impacts on us
looking forward to this channel. your rants on philosophical topics are very nice to listen to
Can't wait to listen to you teaching us how you 4 gated to Diamond 🔷
I occasionally have nightmares despite moving past perceiving the world through the seperate construction that is the perceived self, negative emotions can still exist within me despite understanding what I am and accepting the self for what I've found it to be, largely through meditation and lately put into words by Buddhist teachings.
Much of the things you describe line up with those concepts, and I do believe there are universal truths about the act of being conscious which can be found within and bring peace to the mind. Part of this is the fact that anyone can do so through compassionate exploration of ones own mind. I do not agree with your framing of the separation from the ego as the end all be all, and perhaps our definitions differ but I do not think happiness is this default state. Though a true default state is certainly serene, I experience it as just that, where as happiness is a kind visitor which inhabits the mind on the condition that it must leave again, and so is fear, such as the fear of harm towards a loved one, or the sorrow of betrayed trust. The mind is a lake, and emotions may rain into it and cause ripples but at it's most pure and "default" it still, like a blank mirror reflecting the sky. I think what you describe are part of a toolset to be in control of a satisfactory and meaningful life, but not as all encompassing as you present it, and certainly not switch that enables permanent happiness.
still am not over your self-realization video, still the best thing you ever put out there.
3 years, damn. I had somewhat simmilar thoughts for the last 3 months and yeah, talking with other people about it is tricky (I framed it like and ego-death type shit, where I assummed that I'm just a sum of my experiences, which I didn't choose). Making funny little jokes seems to be the best way to talk about it. Looking forward for your new stuff!
good luck on your journey jamie, i’ll still be watching but hope you find what brings you satisfaction
I enjoyed your starcraft streams. Also elden ring, but that was a while ago. Sad the vods are lost. Maybe stream elden ring dlc?
This is like reading about Meads concept of the “me” and the “I” and how we build a conception “self” of through adolescent development to use as a social object which which leads into a whole bunch of symbolic interactionalist stuff, super interesting and if you were familiar I’d love to hear what you’d have to say
Yess! Looking forward to see content on the new channel soon! ^^
Please give us a podcast feed of the show. RSS/Apple/PocketCasts/whatever. Then we can listen on-the-go...while I'm doing chores or cooking.
Hey Jamie. Welcome to personal enlightenment. Enjoy you're travels in this new space and ignore the septic negativity that will inevitably come from the UA-cam commentariat 😎
Just lost a staring contest. Cheers mate 👍.
i'm having a pink drink too!
The goat is back? No more waiting for months To hear your input on stuff? We are so winning
I really wanna see this channel do an episode with Hoe Math
Thank you for the update
When we needed him
He came back
I have a lot of respect for you... But saying you can achieve perfect mental health shows a great deal of ignorance about mental health. No psychologist would ever claim you can achieve perfect mental health. In fact, having ZERO anxiety isnt even healthy. Anxiety plays an important role in managing our behavior
Just because no psychologist would claim that doesn't mean it's not existing, the current state of any field is not its end state.
What important role does anxiety play?
@@damianescobedo4143 To answer the second question: anxiety used to be fundamental to living (and still is, but its role has changed). It served as our fight or flight response, allowed us to have caution and awareness for potential threats, and allowed us to exercise vigilance which allowed us to survive a super harsh and super dangerous world where we were more often prey than predator (the majority of the human race doesn't have to worry about getting eaten by animals, starvation, dehydration, freezing to death, etc.).
That said, in the past, anxiety was all about survival. Now, it's less about survival--it's still important to exercise caution and be aware of your surroundings--and more about motivation and performance. _Acute_ anxiety, acute stress, has shown time and time again to be a powerfully positive tool. It is this prolonged state of heightened anxiety that is when things can go south. It's as if your fight-or-flight response is on all the time. That's not good for you.
It's a measure, and (more important) a balance for contentness.
@@tmwtheo are you saying that without anxiety people wouldn't do anything because they're content?
@@damianescobedo4143 No
Honestly I think you’ll be hamstrung by your dismissiveness towards “spirituality” and your view of this as “perfect”, as at least when it comes to the Buddhist/hindu traditions there’s so much more there w.r.t how the mind can operate than just the detachment from the ego that you’ve rediscovered here.
You might view it as all woo woo nonsense right now, but it only seems that way when you don’t understand the phenomenon they’re explaining, similar to how many would be confused trying to understand the “perfect” mental state you describe if they haven’t experienced anything even adjacent to it before.
There are thousands of years of deeper self inquiry than we could ever understand behind these traditions, and some humility is needed to go the distance here. Literally everything you describe has already been described in Vedic traditions, and that’s just the beginning
This! On the one hand it's amazing that he had such a life-changing perspective shift, on the other hand he's still ignorant to how much more there is, no wonder he thinks he's already at the end-all be -all.
You think he hasn't read countless amounts of writing in this realm?
@@nacho1595 He might have. Don't see how it's relevant if based on how he talks there's still progress to be made. Not that I think I know more, just more aware that there's a whole world to be explored. Just wishing he finally does an interview with Dr K 🤞
@bubidubi3149 What do you mean progress to be made? If you mean in the sense of self-enquiry/enlightenment on a personal level, I'd like to hear what you mean. If you mean in the sense of bringing awareness of this area of thought to more people, that's the purpose of the channel.
I feel like this is just meditating until you reach nirvana but with different vocabulary imo.
new content to consume! again and again till u upload new one
Can’t wait for inevitable Poe video
feels good to be an early adopter
Will the podcadt comeback on spotify?
more sc2 plz
Most of the time I see people try and fet into the meaning of themselves and see it from a religious perspective, they almost always find meaning in joining the religion. Specially Islam where you would be surprised as to how someone converted to that when he is all the way over the other side.
This is just to address the point of telling people religion is false or whatever was said in the middle of the video
I cant wait :)
there is a podcast?
Let's fucking goooooo!!!
Heck yeah
coming soon on Jamie's Channel: Casually Explained: Cannibal Island
glad i never unsubbed
short curly hair is so in right now
5:05 it is very taboo to talk about, yes; all the more reason why we need platforms like your new channel
oh poggers dude
My god he’s back! What have you done all this time?
If you have no anxiety now, why arent you doing stand up? Or posting under your full name? I think you have more self-analysis left to do then you realize.
Dudes will start a mental health podcast over just moving out of Victoria and fixing their mental health by not living in the most dreary city on earth
Your perfect mental is just being a robot? Why can’t we find a better way to be mentally healthy that incorporates our emotions, good and bad, into a more human-centric framework?
to be fair not exactly a robot, but ignorance is bliss and you should actually avoid some kind of interactions in order to more mental healthy yeah. But i'm curious to hear Jamie's opinion.
The goat
hi jamer
Face reveal
Sounds stupid probably not going to sub
Please don't. Don't delay good videos with trash talking.