The Smooth vs Knobby BMX Tire Debate Finally Answered!
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- Опубліковано 7 кві 2021
- In today's Tech Thursday, powered by: epic-bmx-online.myshopify.com/ Phu Vu (@_epicbmx) gives us: The Smooth vs Knobby BMX Tire Debate Finally Answered! The tires covered in this video are the Cult Crew Fast and Loose, Demolition Hammerhead, and GT Smoothie! Slick, Smooth, Knobby, high air pressure or low air pressure. What are you guys into?
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I just replaced those street tires with knobby tires on my bike. I ride mostly street nowadays, but I kept getting flat tires. I need the knobbys for more protection from those poking objects.
Get some maxxis dth and some good tubes at 50-65psi if you’re on a 26.
Animal tires. You shouldn't have to worry about punctures.
You explained that perfectly the difference between the two. Thanks for all you do for BMX Phu and Alfredo
I love it when i hear about bmx in professional way
🙏🏻👊🏻
I've had WTB Thickslicks (27.5 x 1.95) on my MTB for over a year and they grip better and are much faster than nobby tires. They're even safer in wet conditions.
I wish I had a bike shop like this
You’ll have to visit one day!
I would if I could but live in south afrika 😂
You can do it bro
@@timothy.c2749 idk what its like in africa but i posted ads online to fix bikes a few years ago and a tonne of people were interested so now i basically own a bike shop in my own basement lol
Thats not just a job thats a way of life you need to put all your life and everything you have on it
bike shop owner in 2021 and past year was this is a life style. Im a local bike shop worker and my boss rush af i dont wAnt this place for nothing in the world 🤔🙄
Thanks for this, man. I've been having the same dilemma for a few days now. Cheers!
When Phu is this hyped about a topic from the jump...it’s time to get schooled up. From the Street Cred bike checks to the parts overviews and then the motor madness with the whips...🔥 consistent content
Great chemistry among you guys. The chemistry makes this a treat to watch.
I’m wanting an e-bike for my deliveries. I plan on stretching my tires. 20x2.25 in the winter and maybe 20x1.75 in the summer over a 3 inch wide rim. I like that edgier stuff bmx has to offer. Your channel really helped me when you explained the stretch. You explained it well when you demonstrated the width.
I'm old School. Thanks for making this video. Another thing bad about knob tires when riding off road,mud,dirt,rock,clay and such is knobs tend told cake so bad that you lose control and the tires weigh a heck of a lot more.
The world needs more whitewall BMX tires! I had to DIY a set of mainline’s in whitewall
Fit faf 2.25 still remains my favourite tyre ever. They’ve been around for ages, they last forever. Ask Ethan knows what’s up.
We have used both, good comments, observations. Thanks
Great video. I think the message here is work smarter not harder. I’m riding Kenda Kinipton 26x2.3 and it’s like having air shocks suspension. I one time walk my bike down the stairs and bike was like a low rider bouncing up and down. I’m doing more gravel rides around the SF bay and going to change then out to Victoria Mezcal. I wish you guys do a talk on gravel tires.
Finally alfredo thank you imma buy my second fast and loose tire now i knew i could feel me loosing speed because i have tread on the rear and fast and loose up front does feel move faster thanks alf im sold again
Hellya!!
2:37 The demolition hammer head Street tyre are a good all rounder tyre 👍🚲💨
Really are!
my street rig run 2 Eclat fireballs, but for my all-arounder, I have Kenda K-rads on the rear and FIT T/A on the front.
Holy Rollers are still literally the best "jack of all trades" tyre out there for smaller wheels. ive ridden DH freeride lines on them in the wet, loamy stuff, mud, clay, street, park, hardpac.... definitely weakest in the park, but not terrible at all!
(i do ride 24" DJ though tbf)
I got a high and low spot in my chain because of my sprocket and I try and adjust it but it never works and you give some tips for that pls??
Phu's passion on this subject is brilliant. #bmx
These are facts!
You gotta try the Karma Supra brand tire. They're incredible.
The one thing I'm surprised he didn't go over was tire compounds. Because there are tires that don't grip for crap at parks and certain situations riding street.
I've noticed my red camo cult vans are a lot harder of a rubber than my plain black ones. They get far less grip at my local park and sliders are so much easier.
Did you watch the end of the video?
Totally agree. I'm old school. I like to keep my tires period ... but I did a cross country trip on a Marin Sausalito with hybrid tread, back in 2003 and yeah, I was cutting through the mud with smooth all terrains like you wouldn't believe. Some dude on a mtb passed me on the C&O Canal trail in a thunderstorm and I was like, "I feel like I'm driving a bus!" And he was like, "You're doing a good job!"
... I had double front panniers and a hiking pack strapped to my rear rack, about 80lbs of gear.
holy roller on the front' street tire on the back, great set up if you ride street and trails
Awesome stuff ,Phu at it again dropping that Knowing if half the battle
7:36 It’s like primo comet tyres back in the day they was quite popular for bowl riding 👍🚲💨
Big facts
I love you guys :) Panty dropper is on Fire LMAO. Honestly learn something NEW everytime. Thank you..
What is good on indoor CLAY race track??? with Some slippery wet spots? I need a race tire!!! Thanks!
I put a knobby on my front tire after having my pink smooth GT tires... and oh boy it felt so different to do spins and fakies along with fakie sliders... it has more grip and doesn’t slide well at all for obvious reasons 😂
I was just running in the Mike Aiken odyssey tires they were pretty cool but they fucking rolled slow so I went back to street tires
I had a pair too!
Thank you!
Great lecture!😎👍 ! Keep up the good work!👍
I'm looking for a pair of used old school tan wall Tioga Comp Pool III tires in black. How much should I expect to pay? Thanks!
I always ran a nobby tire in the front tioga comp 3 I believe until the ruben tires came out. Now I run a fit faf night vision tire in the front, animal tire back
Beach cruiser tires work great on wet hard packed sand at the beach. Slightly deflated tires like on the SE Mike Buff balloon tire bike work best on thick loose sand at the beach.
Wow, This is a great bmx video! I believe in you, you just earned a new subscribers!!
Shut your robot using ass up lol
@@AlfredoMancuso by the way this morning a Bmx Edit 2021 will be online it’s an epic one 🔥😃
Love my maxxis holy rollers, also enjoy the Odyssey Aitkin double wall
For dirt / trails Comp 3’s used to dig into the jumps and leave marks, smooth tyres helped the jumps.
It’s a good idea to change tyres while you are at the trails, you will be able to feel the difference between tyres, and there is a difference between sets of tyres even with the same tyre pressures.
If some gifts you second hand tyres, they probably have a problem.
I wish companies were more transparent with compounds. Honestly, the tread pattern doesn't really matter if the compound is right.
As a car guy that has been drag racing since the early 2000s, we look for compounds as all the tires are slicks. Makes a huge difference.
I will say, I quit riding in 2005 and started back up 3 years ago. Tires didn't used to squeak and chirp. It's crazy how good tires are now. My cult vans tires stick to walls in a way I didn't think was possible, and I am pretty sure those are mid tier tires.
I was hoping he’d address an issue I’ve had with street tires not biting when I’m pedaling hard out of dirt berms. It’s like the tire is just sliding, not sideways, just spinning and not propelling me forward.
if you read that one back you will realise why that is happening, you have STREET tyres riding out of DIRT berms, of course it's not gonna grip. If your tyres are smooth for the street obviously it's not gonna grip the dirt like a DIRT tyre would......?
@@Rittzo. yeah thanks bro
If it were me i'd say i'm too powerful and call it a day!
Everyday learning something new #Bmxinnigeria
Wicked great info!
My issue of choosing right tires for my e bike is the need to get a tire that will not wear down in the middle of tire as using Knob tires the middle knobs get worn down flush to surface of tire. Trying to find tires that assist in not wearing down too fast after using for I end up changing tires every 4 to 6 months..
Yes because they achieve the different colors by adding in different chemicals. Black is made using carbon black. This additive actually enhances durability in the rubber.
I can voucher for the hammer head s tires they are grippy fast and take impact nicely and I also run maxxis grifter tires 2.40 and these tires are fast af they grip damn good in the rain dirt street they take impact really good
Comp llls are great in the snow!
I’m running the kink sever tire. They’re pretty sweet, good grip and still roll fast. I think the cult vans or fast and loose will be the replacements though. The severs look like absolute slicks sitting next to my mountain bike with wtb vigilantes though lol.
It's save my money after read ur comment... I'm just ordered the kink Switch 2022 with pre essemble kink sever tire and it's on the way to my home for now... I can delete my cart now for fast and loose tire... Tq... 😂😂😂
I busted my ass on gt smoothies at the Venice beach bike path & it made me think twice about those tires. I still ride on em. When cornering I hear a funny sort of a low level screeching sound from the tires. Is that the sound of them grabbing the pavement or slippage? Or perhaps even both?
I always wondered this, I guess I’ll get an answer today
That. You. Will. Haha
Not to do with tires so much but I used to have ramps behind my shed and the one ramp had the corner propped up with a 40z bottle. That never broke
Where is the black vs color tires and grips? Nice videos there!
Go super old school...Cheng Shin son!!!
I ride the Animal T1 tire. Best damn tire my bike has ever touched! More a slick style like the Cult Fast N’ Loose but they grip persistently on both dirt and pavement! I reccomend trying them however they are a little heavier than avg. hasn’t really affected my ride whatsoever though!
Excellent content
wow i'm convinced
He was all in your clip, backing you up😂👍🏿
Comp 3s on me race bike back in the day then on my pbr I had primo dirt monster on the front and v monster on the back I think Smoove tires are more prone to punches so something with a bit of grip but not two knobbly for all round riding 👍🚲💨
Knobby gang!
Depends what you're riding in. My slick Anml GLH grip beautifully on tarmac and concrete. My mate runs Demolition Hammerheads with a bit more knobble and those grip better on dirt. Run what suits your environment.
What I’ve always gone by is knobby tyres on dirt and slick tyres when riding on concrete.
The knobby classic butterfly pattern are actually the best. I have the Bell brand with Kevlar. They actually roll faster than street tires because the tread is raised off the ground. They endure everything the street throws at them. Trust me. I’ve commuted my bike for years.35psi max. I run 45 psi to compensate for my 180-200 weight. Chromoly GT bump or 2015 signature series. They also make my wheels look pretty and beefy. They are not like the tires in the 80’s that wear quick. They are more like a car tire or better now.
Oh shit. I live in LA. I should drop by this store!
Pull up!
Hard packed dirt you can run smoother tires
Like a medium tread depth or deep tread or even mild tread
Clay jumps or track you can run super smooth tires due to clay being a smoother and harder material
From my experience, I feel like the colored tires are more slippery , atleast on metal ramps
Nah
Been waiting for new vid 😄
Didn’t keep you waiting too long haha
What about round top vs flat top tires?
There’s a reason race cars run slicks.
Alot of guys used to run slick in the back to roll fast and knobby up front for grip whether that actually helps idk 🤷♂️
Should I try it?
I use the knobby tires for street riding as the knobs get wormed down to flush of tire surface as using a non knob tire would wear down faster than the knobby tires.?. Is there a tire that works well to avoiding the middle wear down of tire? Until then, Im still using knobs as the buffer from getting worn down to quick as with a non knob, it would wear down too fast too soon.?>
let's see an updated 180 grind/fakie grind plzz
I agree with the knobby tires slowing you down. I also think the bigger/fatter tires slow you down to. I mostly ride Tioga Power Block & Kenda Contacts.
Depends on the tires. I have a Tern link D8. I put 20X1.1 inch Schwalbe Durano tires on it. And got a top speed of around 25mph average speed of 14mph. Then when they wore out I put Vee Speedsters 20X2.00 on it. And got a top speed of 25mph on it. And an average speed of 13.5mph. But the bike is alot more stable and comfortable now. So that half a mile trade is well worth it to me.
I enjoy my riding now. The diameter of the wheel and circumference increases with bigger tires. So even if your cadence is less. You move forward more with each cycle.
Sand is like natures ball bearings on the ground.
Well said!
I got the shadow contenders from the last video on tires
Solid!
Mike Hucker signature tire is my go to
Solid, like the rider who designed it
Nice, I like this channel.
Love the video
I live in the northern hemisphere, we get snow and sleet. How do the slicks hold up in these outlined conditions Phu? Not good, move south! Yea I get it but you know?
Yea not good in moist conditions
Riding dirt with the Cinema Williams tires?
S&M mainline front/ Odyssey path pro rear. A little knob, a little smooth 🤌🤌
love the vids
Thanks Alex
I wish they have a tire like that in the philippines
I mean supermoto bikes ride smooth wheels! And they fly through anything! Definitely wanna try some!
💯
The demolition hammerheads are one of the grippiest tires for every type of riding though.
Those cult fast and loose will grip a clean/dry skatepark better.
Just depends where you’re riding.
I ride good year from dunhams and i love them
kenda krad. maxxis holy roller. both of these tires are REALY the best to get, they ride perfectly on every thing, the only area they lack in a tiny bit is on snow.
and the best way to set up the bike is 26x2.30 krad or 26x2.40 holy roller. and for the front it must be either 27,5" or 29" that is wider than the rear with the most agresive contact patch like a maxxis agressor or schwalbe magic mary. so 2.40 to 2.80 is like the sweet spot. in general you want the most pricey and agresive front tire you can get, and a cheap to medium rear thats for stunt/street. the front tire wears very little compared to the rear. i have this setup on my 40kg ebike that can go 80/h and never slipped on grass or dirt or any thing.
now scale that down and aim it more into BMX and you going to run semi slick in the rear and something like the krad or holy rollers in the front. now that is the best way to set up an all purpose bike. thats all the wisdom i have for you all who are looking at tires.
Fast and loose though. It's telling you there's a trade off. It's faster but it's looser.
personally i think the eclat morrow tires or similar pattern is the best all around, It's smooth on the streets and grips a lot on any surface, kinda like the fuego tires as well. I think the pattern of the tire is much more important than if its slick or knobby
Phu hates ECLAT haha
AHHAHAH the cult dehart tires are good too, that type of pattern is what i think is superior out of everything thing, but that's just my opinion
@@AlfredoMancuso uh oh. Why does he hate eclat? Is it the products or is it the vendor/distribution issues?
Ah yes.... back in the days... knobby tyres is the only option we have during 90s... works great on gravel... noisy on the road & heavy on the mud... 😁
i personally rlly like cult x vans tires and shadow tires.
That's fine for packed dirt, but what about loose or wet dirt? Not all the dirt out there has changed. lol You don't use your sidewall on berms. You lean into them. The center line being smooth is fine but more side knob will save you when sliding and the drag from side knobs is almost nonexistent when rolling on the center. I wish manufacturers made more dirt friendly tread varieties.
Opinion on the cult x vans tyres?
Its cult
Cult? Haha they’re a little heavy got my liking but they look dope
even on my 26inch dirtjump bike i ride smooth tires with just a couple of grooves
Iv got a bike for dirt one for street and a park bike im an old skooler but ride a few midskool and new skool bikes i run either dirt monster or holly rollers on my dirt bike .
Hoffman skidmarks or maxxis on my park bike
And vmonsters ,miricle tyres and aitkin tyres on my street bikes .
gotta have the primo v monsters
Daisy called, she wants her dukes back. I'm jk, thanks for the video!
Get over the front of the bike if your washing out. Great review
Anyone know a good street slick tire 20x 2.4 ?
primo v monster
@@chocolatewheelchair thanks 😎🙏🏾
I prefer the dirt tires
The earth is flat man. I ride smooth street tires on the dirt jumps, haro la mesa 2.4. If I ever buy new tires, they’ll be those vans camo ones. I also like bon jovi, dead or alive is my favourite song. I’m 37, I feel like Phu is close to my age. I’ve completely given up the weed bong water, I feel great about it.
I will be putting the cult x vans tires once I buy my new wheels
When you do another video on tyres can you do a video on tyres for Street Park & dirt and what tyres do you recommend that is worth buying and will save your money and that have a very long life in the tyre and when you do the video explain in the video to what's better wide tyres or skinny tyres this is what you need to talk about in the video on tyres for Park Street and Dirt please do another video very soon on tyres for all type of riding please please please please and tell us in the video to what tyres are worth getting for starting out on riding and what tyres are for beginners and what tyres are for pros please explain everything that we need to know about Park Street and dirt tyres and when you do your next video on tyres can you do a really big favour and do some experiments on the skateparks the dirt and the street with the tires so people can see what the difference is between tyres and people can see what tire is worth buying....
the smooth ones makes it sortof faster since the knobs suck the floor up (you know grips) while the smooth doesnt grip much making it slightly faster