12:15 I feel like a player base wined way too hard, but also I'm a level 150 with tons of extra resources to spend so I had half of it when they dropped it just for playing the game. I fully understand that they need money to pay their workers and they need money to hire more workers so that way they could pump out the war bonds and the upgrades and such faster. As a player base we are looking at it as a Mr Krabs point of view when we shouldn't be.
One of the first Illuminate MO messages (not one of the MO briefings, but a random disposable message on the datapad) explicitly told us that they came out of the Meridia "black hole". The podcast looks like it was recorded before we finished the last MO, but the success report told us that Meridia is actually a wormhole. It could be either Illuminate from this timeline, another timeline, or the past. Whichever they are, they hopped through the wormhole and are trying to re-program the other side of the wormhole to bring in the full fleet. To be frank, I don't think it makes much of a difference if it's past/present/alternate timeline Illuminate. If the devs want to hand-wave away a bunch of differences from the original Illuminate, then they can say they're from an alternate timeline. But they could also say the present Illuminate got transformed by being heavily whooped during the first galactic war and that led to large cultural changes. Any of these things works honestly. My headcannon is that the Monoliths they've been planting on the planets serve as a kind of extraction device to power up/control/direct the wormhole, somehow. That's the reason they're bouncing from planet to planet. We only got a handful of Illuminate objectives, so that's got to be in there for a reason. Sure they could be doing recon, but there's probably a practical idea behind going to so many different planets. They probably need a fresh source to siphon materials/energy/whatever to boot up the warp gate in a long/stable enough fashion as to allow the full fleet to come through. PS: I love how Dutch is going to reach level 150 and will still be humbly saying "oh I'm starting to get better at the game".
6:17 they could be making more iluminate and the humans that dont transform good end up as zombies . also propably the chance is smaller for adults because we dont see any kid sized zombies so the chance for transformation succes chance has to be higher for kids (or they just take them away) . the bots also harvest civilians to make them into more units i think . and the terminids just eat them .
People have to remember. We got the whole update for free. We got the illuminate, new maps, new Missions, vehicles. Usually games charge between $40 to $60 dollars per update. We done got like 2 or 3 updates already. They gotta pay someone to create the warbonds and content. They said they were doing that to help secure the games future. So they could continue to put our free content. But I have beat down so many bots with that stun baton and thekillzone guns. The sniper two shoots overseers and all devestors. I can kill bots and illuminate with the SMG and machine gun. The way the jousting works is you you dive with the stun lance and the ballistic shield. You get in the cars line them up lean out the window and when you go by each other. You try to kill each other. By stabbing with the lance
6:07 I mean it does make sense as he's literally saying right here once you turn the populace into zombies you don't really need a fighting force because your army is right there. You just need a handful of commandos who can control the populace at that point
My biggest complaint with the game as of yet is stratagem hero doesn't stay specific to your ship. Idc if someone comes on my ship and gets that 999,999 score. But keep the score local
Hear me out: invasion missions. You drop to a planet BEFORE it’s attacked; evacuating civilians, fighting WITH S.E.A.F troops, witnessing whatever enemy is invading actually land. Basically the defence mission, but better and in an urban environment, always. Bugs: You can set flame, gas, or even spike traps, along with setting up or even repair defensive systems such as turrets or sensors (maybe generators). Bots: EMP traps, heavy radar stations to know when air raids will happen (like an early warning system for gunships). Squids: All of the above, but more tesla weaponry, psychic weaponry, or some way to disrupt the so-called ‘mind controlled’ civilians.
They had to push the collaboration soon after their big update due to how high the player count was. The leak proves it was supposed to be a warbond but they realized the pricing was gonna negatively affect it's sales. So if they push it now that the player numbers are up, it'll make up for the projected low sales if they pushed it later.
17:07 no that shit was double the price of warbond... FOR THE FIRST PAGE (of the shop it didnt even have as much in it as warbond does, even the 2 pages combined dont have as much as warbond for 4x the price)
Space station needs to double the affected strategy: 2 - 380s per cooldown instead of 1, 10 strafing runs per cooldown, etc, and add it to the loadout as a 5th slot. Other option would be to keep it similar to what its already doing but give us a laser guidance system to have some control over it. Even having it target things we mark on the map would be a starting point.
What I think would be cool is if they mix factions at times, like have half bug, half bot or half squid half bug missions etc, maybe have it so one is main enemy force, with all their units, with the other only having the lite and maybe medium units kinda situation
Well I was wrong about October being the month the illuminate show up but if you consider the two month rework of the game, they may have been originally planned for October and got pushed back lol maybe not though
So here is my personal opinion on the whole Killzone issue. Please comment if you want dont want to, so be it. I would have preferred a warbond. The whole "it was originally going to be a warbond" crap I hate because it was data mined, which proves overall nothing. Regardless of that, I wouldn't hate if they uped the price as it was a crossover. Listen gotta make people happy on both sides, so 5-10 bucks extra for a cross-over I'm not going to hate. It's if they used the cross over to also raise the price of normal warbonds, which is where I would have drawn my line.
Yeah I wasn't enthused about the price point, I was gonna initially skip it and just got the Killzone helmet because I really like the aesthetic and it goes with a lot of outfits. Though after seeing them extend the time to grind for credits and also just giving out the latter half for free I put in $20 in super credits to future-proof and show a smidgen of appreciation for realizing their fuck-up and adjusting for it :) Even if it was partially incentivized for avoiding an end-of-the-year controversy, it's wise they did it regardless and show they have capacity to be somewhat humble. It is very much the community that kept the game alive through the trying times, down to sub 10k, the holdouts kept on until the resurgence we have now. And adding it up that's about $75 (now $95) I've spent this year until then, $40 for the game, $15 I mostly got for a specific warbond and an armor set I REALLY liked the look of. I've spent roughly for what I'd have paid for one to two games I'd have stopped playing in a month, maybe even less if it's not replayable, so I've gotten my worth and then some from Helldivers 2 alone! Never felt this enthused to just hop into a random game since the beginning c:
I bought the super citizen upgrade 2 weeks after getting the game just to support the developers. Spent 10 for so ibcou buy the remaining killzone Armour and gun. Ultimately all i want to do is support the devs.
Can somebody who thinks the warbonds is too expensive, explain to me what you are grinding for if everything has to be available day one for everybody ?!?
Exactly. I'm not clear why certain players believe there entitled to have everything have to them on a plate when the rest of us have been merrily earning our SC and buying warbonds etc. Yes the crossover was more expensive but how do people think they got their hands on that IP? It wasn't free.
The problem I’m having is I’m playing almost whole missions and then I’m getting kicked for the server to the game ! Not every time but more than enough to make me not play the game ! Imagine playing almost the whole game just for the game to shit the bed ! Waist of my gaming time
I don’t think that any like “mass multiplayer” features will be coming to helldivers 2 ever. We have to remember that this game engine is abandoned and unsupported And arrowhead has pretty extensively customized this engine to do exactly what it’s doing right now. I think that even hoping for those kinds of features is just priming the community for disappointment.
I’m surprised you don’t have the super citizen pack, the cape/armour is baller and the mp-98 knight is probably the best smg in the game, if you pay for warbonds anyway might as well buy it and claim the 1000SC reimbursement for the steeled veterans.
Wait u get reimbursed 1000 SC if u buy steeled veterans before getting super citizen? I was gonna grab super citizen but figured itd be a waste since I already grabbed the warbond.
@ yeah you just need to claim through arrowheads website by submitting a claim with proof of purchase and it takes less than a day for them to process it and give you the creds. I did post a link but youtube seems to have deleted my comment because of it.
You might wanna consider changing your username, i’ve been going nuts trying to figure out why my comments are getting deleted and it’s your tag, here I am writing the most plain informative comment and they’re getting censored, infuriating😤 But anyway, yes, I basically used it to pay for the truth enforcers warbond, technically making it the only warbond I payed for.
Is anyone being mind controed? I had a team mate who kept being mind controlled last night. Like MO was looking up, and then shambling ang shooting like their button is stuck...
Why did I see DKoldies commercial that company have been time and time again shown they don’t refurbish there used systems . Please don’t use them as sponsors plus there games over prised to boot. Besides that good show keep it up.
Bruh no player hub for the space station. Why doesn’t Dutch realize that’s a waste of money and resources? So the bug only divers have another place to sit around and not do anything? No thanks lol
12:15 I feel like a player base wined way too hard, but also I'm a level 150 with tons of extra resources to spend so I had half of it when they dropped it just for playing the game. I fully understand that they need money to pay their workers and they need money to hire more workers so that way they could pump out the war bonds and the upgrades and such faster. As a player base we are looking at it as a Mr Krabs point of view when we shouldn't be.
like top 3 selling game of the year but ok
Merry Super Christmas guys! This podcast is truly great to listen to while working on various things.
One of the first Illuminate MO messages (not one of the MO briefings, but a random disposable message on the datapad) explicitly told us that they came out of the Meridia "black hole". The podcast looks like it was recorded before we finished the last MO, but the success report told us that Meridia is actually a wormhole. It could be either Illuminate from this timeline, another timeline, or the past. Whichever they are, they hopped through the wormhole and are trying to re-program the other side of the wormhole to bring in the full fleet.
To be frank, I don't think it makes much of a difference if it's past/present/alternate timeline Illuminate. If the devs want to hand-wave away a bunch of differences from the original Illuminate, then they can say they're from an alternate timeline. But they could also say the present Illuminate got transformed by being heavily whooped during the first galactic war and that led to large cultural changes. Any of these things works honestly.
My headcannon is that the Monoliths they've been planting on the planets serve as a kind of extraction device to power up/control/direct the wormhole, somehow. That's the reason they're bouncing from planet to planet. We only got a handful of Illuminate objectives, so that's got to be in there for a reason. Sure they could be doing recon, but there's probably a practical idea behind going to so many different planets. They probably need a fresh source to siphon materials/energy/whatever to boot up the warp gate in a long/stable enough fashion as to allow the full fleet to come through.
PS: I love how Dutch is going to reach level 150 and will still be humbly saying "oh I'm starting to get better at the game".
6:17 they could be making more iluminate and the humans that dont transform good end up as zombies . also propably the chance is smaller for adults because we dont see any kid sized zombies so the chance for transformation succes chance has to be higher for kids (or they just take them away) . the bots also harvest civilians to make them into more units i think . and the terminids just eat them .
People have to remember. We got the whole update for free. We got the illuminate, new maps, new Missions, vehicles. Usually games charge between $40 to $60 dollars per update. We done got like 2 or 3 updates already. They gotta pay someone to create the warbonds and content. They said they were doing that to help secure the games future. So they could continue to put our free content. But I have beat down so many bots with that stun baton and thekillzone guns. The sniper two shoots overseers and all devestors. I can kill bots and illuminate with the SMG and machine gun. The way the jousting works is you you dive with the stun lance and the ballistic shield. You get in the cars line them up lean out the window and when you go by each other. You try to kill each other. By stabbing with the lance
Signs is about demons rising from hell. The whole alien thing was a red herring.
6:07 I mean it does make sense as he's literally saying right here once you turn the populace into zombies you don't really need a fighting force because your army is right there. You just need a handful of commandos who can control the populace at that point
I dig the idea of more stratagem slots where DSS is. More insane missions there and more diver choice to wreak havoc.
My biggest complaint with the game as of yet is stratagem hero doesn't stay specific to your ship. Idc if someone comes on my ship and gets that 999,999 score.
But keep the score local
Last time i was this early, Helldivers was a top down twinstick shooter.
Merry christmas divers o7
Hell Yeah boys, Merry Christmas!
Merry Christmas, Salty Nerds!
Merry Christmas guys, you definitely deserve lot more subscribers
Hear me out: invasion missions.
You drop to a planet BEFORE it’s attacked; evacuating civilians, fighting WITH S.E.A.F troops, witnessing whatever enemy is invading actually land. Basically the defence mission, but better and in an urban environment, always.
Bugs:
You can set flame, gas, or even spike traps, along with setting up or even repair defensive systems such as turrets or sensors (maybe generators).
Bots:
EMP traps, heavy radar stations to know when air raids will happen (like an early warning system for gunships).
Squids:
All of the above, but more tesla weaponry, psychic weaponry, or some way to disrupt the so-called ‘mind controlled’ civilians.
They had to push the collaboration soon after their big update due to how high the player count was.
The leak proves it was supposed to be a warbond but they realized the pricing was gonna negatively affect it's sales. So if they push it now that the player numbers are up, it'll make up for the projected low sales if they pushed it later.
Ship modules for vehicles/mechs needed soon.
Upgrade tires and weapon on back would be amazing
17:07 no that shit was double the price of warbond... FOR THE FIRST PAGE (of the shop it didnt even have as much in it as warbond does, even the 2 pages combined dont have as much as warbond for 4x the price)
Look at what's happening in the missions. The Illuminate are stealing our oil!
Merry Christmas nerds🎉
Why is salty taking damage while talking 😂
Bro...hhahah its so bad!
I got all the stuff from farming. It took two days
I learned the hard way that you're not climbing sand dunes with out tires 🤣
Space station needs to double the affected strategy: 2 - 380s per cooldown instead of 1, 10 strafing runs per cooldown, etc, and add it to the loadout as a 5th slot.
Other option would be to keep it similar to what its already doing but give us a laser guidance system to have some control over it. Even having it target things we mark on the map would be a starting point.
What I think would be cool is if they mix factions at times, like have half bug, half bot or half squid half bug missions etc, maybe have it so one is main enemy force, with all their units, with the other only having the lite and maybe medium units kinda situation
MERRY CHRISTMAS!
That Plasma Sniper takes out the Elevated Overseaers in one burst if you aim towards their head!
Well I was wrong about October being the month the illuminate show up but if you consider the two month rework of the game, they may have been originally planned for October and got pushed back lol maybe not though
I think creek will be back on the menu soon
So here is my personal opinion on the whole Killzone issue. Please comment if you want dont want to, so be it.
I would have preferred a warbond. The whole "it was originally going to be a warbond" crap I hate because it was data mined, which proves overall nothing. Regardless of that, I wouldn't hate if they uped the price as it was a crossover. Listen gotta make people happy on both sides, so 5-10 bucks extra for a cross-over I'm not going to hate. It's if they used the cross over to also raise the price of normal warbonds, which is where I would have drawn my line.
Yeah I wasn't enthused about the price point, I was gonna initially skip it and just got the Killzone helmet because I really like the aesthetic and it goes with a lot of outfits.
Though after seeing them extend the time to grind for credits and also just giving out the latter half for free I put in $20 in super credits to future-proof and show a smidgen of appreciation for realizing their fuck-up and adjusting for it :) Even if it was partially incentivized for avoiding an end-of-the-year controversy, it's wise they did it regardless and show they have capacity to be somewhat humble. It is very much the community that kept the game alive through the trying times, down to sub 10k, the holdouts kept on until the resurgence we have now.
And adding it up that's about $75 (now $95) I've spent this year until then, $40 for the game, $15 I mostly got for a specific warbond and an armor set I REALLY liked the look of. I've spent roughly for what I'd have paid for one to two games I'd have stopped playing in a month, maybe even less if it's not replayable, so I've gotten my worth and then some from Helldivers 2 alone! Never felt this enthused to just hop into a random game since the beginning c:
I bought the super citizen upgrade 2 weeks after getting the game just to support the developers. Spent 10 for so ibcou buy the remaining killzone Armour and gun. Ultimately all i want to do is support the devs.
Merry helldiving nerds
Can somebody who thinks the warbonds is too expensive, explain to me what you are grinding for if everything has to be available day one for everybody ?!?
Exactly. I'm not clear why certain players believe there entitled to have everything have to them on a plate when the rest of us have been merrily earning our SC and buying warbonds etc. Yes the crossover was more expensive but how do people think they got their hands on that IP? It wasn't free.
@@quirinaled2752 killzone is owned by Sony and helldivers is also owned by Sony. You think they paid themselves for ip? Most likely not.
Merry Christmas Salt Divers… I wanna see an overseeer riding a behemoth
Have a very democratic Christmas hell divers.
*looks around, "this isn't a stream "
clown car death trap is perfect.. looks heroic is super fun and 50 ways to get yourself & teammates killed. its perfect
Merry Khrystmas saltdivers, and to all a Democratic night!
Salty out here with the grip of drip!
I enjoyed the derailment banter
Hey so interesting timing again, 2 hours later now there's an MO about a wormhole, so the alternate universe theory ain't off the board lol
lol always after we are done recording.
You guys are killing me 😂😂😂
Gonna bust a stitch over here laughing
The problem I’m having is I’m playing almost whole missions and then I’m getting kicked for the server to the game ! Not every time but more than enough to make me not play the game ! Imagine playing almost the whole game just for the game to shit the bed ! Waist of my gaming time
32:01 bro I said this like five videos ago in the comments
I don’t think that any like “mass multiplayer” features will be coming to helldivers 2 ever. We have to remember that this game engine is abandoned and unsupported
And arrowhead has pretty extensively customized this engine to do exactly what it’s doing right now. I think that even hoping for those kinds of features is just priming the community for disappointment.
I’m surprised you don’t have the super citizen pack, the cape/armour is baller and the mp-98 knight is probably the best smg in the game, if you pay for warbonds anyway might as well buy it and claim the 1000SC reimbursement for the steeled veterans.
Wait u get reimbursed 1000 SC if u buy steeled veterans before getting super citizen? I was gonna grab super citizen but figured itd be a waste since I already grabbed the warbond.
@ yeah you just need to claim through arrowheads website by submitting a claim with proof of purchase and it takes less than a day for them to process it and give you the creds.
I did post a link but youtube seems to have deleted my comment because of it.
You might wanna consider changing your username, i’ve been going nuts trying to figure out why my comments are getting deleted and it’s your tag, here I am writing the most plain informative comment and they’re getting censored, infuriating😤
But anyway, yes, I basically used it to pay for the truth enforcers warbond, technically making it the only warbond I payed for.
“Everybody takes a hole”
Midol is the cure
Most of the damage type from the game is explosive... electric from squids though. So the killzone armor is not that strong imo
So what’s a fair price for a crossover?
The 40 to 60 bucks we already paid.
Is anyone being mind controed? I had a team mate who kept being mind controlled last night. Like MO was looking up, and then shambling ang shooting like their button is stuck...
Why did I see DKoldies commercial that company have been time and time again shown they don’t refurbish there used systems . Please don’t use them as sponsors plus there games over prised to boot. Besides that good show keep it up.
Not sure what your referring too. Must be a UA-cam ad. We have no control over what ads UA-cam throws up.
mid AI thumbnail, do it yourself instead
Bruh no player hub for the space station. Why doesn’t Dutch realize that’s a waste of money and resources? So the bug only divers have another place to sit around and not do anything? No thanks lol