GSG Induction - Mindreaders
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Mark Goodson is a great game show producer, and his record makes him one of the best. This show could be called his worst game show after 1970. Robert Seidelman presents to you Mindreaders and you don't have to be a mind reader to know that this game of ESP S-U-C-K-S!
Mindreaders, What's My Line, Match Game and Card Sharks is owned currently by Fremantle Media. No challenge to ownership is implied.
There were six NBC affiliates listed in the Northern Ohio edition of TV Guide. Only one carried "Mindreaders": the network-owned WKYC in Cleveland. Maybe WTOV Steubenville aired the last week after swapping its CBS affiliation with WTRF Wheeling.
Sadly, Mindreaders had already ended on the American NBC network.
This was aired on NBC daytime, the week of December 31, 1979 to January 4, 1980, a week shy of the final week before “Chain Reaction” with Bill Cullen takes place on Monday, January 14, 1980.
A user named “blameditonjorge” did an in-depth review of the Lost Media Game Show Iceberg, and one of them is this one which was added to the Lost Media Iceberg.
There was also another episode of "Mindreaders" which can be found on YT, but it was taped right off of WNBC-TV (channel 4) in NYC back in 1979 which was sourced from an early VHS tape or Betamax. Because VHS format hit the scene in 1978 and it became popular in video stores and rentals for pre-recorded tapes and movies.
The theme song was later used in another game show called "Puzzlers" hosted by Pat Sajak of "Wheel of Fortune" fame, and that turns out to be a pilot, but it never aired, thanks to Wink Martindale's YT channel for finding its rare gem.
I hope "Puzzlers" will be on a future "Game Show Garbage" episode.
Johnny Olson announced both Pat Sajak and Vanna White's names...when Sajak was Puzzlers' host and Vanna coming on down in The Price Is Right...but never getting out of contestants' row.
"There was also another episode of "Mindreaders" which can be found on YT, but it was taped right off of WNBC-TV (channel 4) in NYC back in 1979 which was sourced from an early VHS tape or Betamax."
And, IIRC, had a short blip promo for Melba Tolliver on the early edition (5 P.M.) of NewsCenter 4 on WNBC-- the announcer said, "Melba Tolliver-- NewsCenter 4, tonight at 5."
Is it just me or does the theme sound like a price is right cue?
Yes, they should have picked it up. I can hear this theme played for a car.
@@arthuridis ya I know it wasn't one they had but that theme just screamed Price Is Right
4:21 Does anyone know which episode he is referring to? I can't find it.
Sadly, _Mindreaders_ was also the last game show to be developed within the lifeline of Bill Todman, who passed away a few weeks before its premiere.
As for the reference, you could say…*sunglasses*…I got the picture
Id like to know who announced for the week Johnny Olson was gone? -Notice Dick touched on that at the start? Game Show Encyclopedia listed just listed Olson as the show's announcer. I doubt it was Gene Wood, Goodson's number 2 caller (probably cuz he had Family Feud duties). I'd day John Harlan or then newcomer Bob Hilton.
Jack Narz who also announced All-Star Beat the Clock
@@ricknibert6417 yea, someone else was saying that on another page. As an amateur game show historian (I like to call myself), at the age of 50, I remember Narz hosting "Now You See it" and the syndicated "Concentration".
This is a review on the short-lived American TV show Mindreaders (a game show that premiered in 1979 & ended in early 1980). The host is the late Dick Martin. 🇺🇲
Buzzr aired an episode tonight for the Lost and Found block. I think this show had the issue What's Going On had but in reverse - where What's Going On was too far ahead of its time, Mindreaders was *behind* the times. This game is so simplistic that it would have worked more in the early 60s or even late 50s when most game shows were much simpler than they were in 1979. It's painful to watch how hard they try to squeeze different spins on the concept out. Dick Martin would have fared better as the host of a straightforward comedy game (as he did with The Cheap Show) perhaps one with a panel for him to play off of.
Notably, the episode Buzzr aired was one of the pilots, and it had a disclaimer at the end that the film material was provided by UCLA's archive. I would assume that means the series was indeed wiped entirely and Fremantle no longer owns any intact masters of the tapes.
NBC choosing a host for a Goodson game? Glad they did not repeat that mistake!
The award for crazy acting in this video (assuming that it was acting) goes to... ROBERT SEIDELMAN!
The only thing worse than Mindreaders would have been "All-Star Celebrity Mindreaders" (see change to Celebrity Hot Potato). Imagine how long the main game would take with Jo Anne Worley and Jan Murray exchanging quips and witty banter with four other stars (Jack Carter, Dick Gautier, Eva Gabor or Kaye Stevens) clamoring for equal camera time. In its defense, Mindreaders did have a good main theme song. This wasn't the only G-T bomb, however. Don't forget the slow dragging Child's Play or Judge For Yourself.
+snowden67 Or even worse, what if it had been hosted by Patrick Wayne. Now THAT would have been even worse.
+C.J. O'Dell Patrick Wayne as host? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
At least Child's Play almost lasted a year & had Bill Cullen to host. Even less-than-perfect shows stood a chance with him at the helm.
Robert... In my honest opinion, the only real good thing about "Mindreaders" was the theme music... a very catchy game show tune. By the way... invest in come large amounts of coffee... LOL
I'll have to admit that the theme was the only good thing about it. In 1980, it was reused for an unsold pilot called "Puzzlers", hosted by then-KNBC meteorologist Pat Sajak. It probably didn't sell for a couple of reasons, one, that they tried to pack too many different gameplay elements into one show, and two, that Pat Sajak was too local according to NBC president Fred Silverman, which was his reason for originally rejecting his succeeding Chuck Woolery on "Wheel of Fortune". Also, depending on when in 1980 that pilot was shot, it didn't help that the network removed three game shows from their daytime schedule at the time.
Johnny Olsen was also good. He's better at his job than Dick Martin was at hosting. And when the announcer is better at his job than the host is at his job, that's a bad sign.
I really do not like the idea of having contestants as the panelists, it seems dull that way plus the humor was not there
The only thing good about this show was its kick-ass theme song.
That and Johnny Olson as announcer.
I guess a cross between '60s Match Game and Newlywed Game didn't pan out as expected.
And it didnt help that it had to compete against the $20,000 pyramid (abc) and the young and the restless (cbs)
I thought too much of the game play burden was on the celebs for Mindreaders, having to use their "ESP" to guess how people would answer. Dick Martin also hosted The Cheap Show before Mindreaders.
2 full eps of Mindreaders, 8/15/79 from week 1 w/ Patty Duke & Nipsey Russell, and 12/13/79 w/ Joyce Bulifant & Jack Jones, exist in full, along w/ 1st 2 mins of 12/31/79, w/ Brett Somers & Bill Daily.
The pilot episode exists and was aired on BUZZR. The pilot was posted on UA-cam. The show sucks. The only good things are the theme song and Johnny Olson. Dick Martin goes around with a big stupid grin on his face and acting like he was sleepwalking through his hosting duties. The game itself was boring and slow-paced. How this show ever made it past the pilot stage and on the air is a mystery to me.
It is a shame most of this show no longer exists, as NBC was still junking to save videotape as late as 1979 (PASSWORD PLUS debuted earlier in the year & as far as I know mostly survives intact). Even less-than-stellar games make me curious to see if they were that terrible. That makes the sad fate of Dream House (except for those second-generation VHS copies that people have hung onto for decades; you people are heroes!) all the more lamentable.
Dick Martin was better as host of The Cheap Show when things were more silly. My local NBC station carried Mindreaders for the first couple weeks and then dropping it in favor of the syndicated Cross-Wits game. The station kept Cross-Wits in the same time slot for a while and did not carry the Bill Cullen Chain Reaction game that replaced Mindreaders in the NBC time slot. Mindreaders was basically Match Game/Tattletales with civilians in trying to predict how members of the opposing team answered yes or no based on occupation, body language, facial expressions, or life experience. Looked good on paper. The Judge the Jury segment carried over to the 1986-1989 Bob Eubanks/Bill Rafferty Card Sharks with the contestants predicting how many of the ten people of the same occupation in the audience had answered a question the same way to gain control of the high-low card flipping.
"The Judge the Jury segment carried over to the 1986-1989 Bob Eubanks/Bill Rafferty Card Sharks with the contestants predicting how many of the ten people of the same occupation in the audience had answered a question the same way to gain control of the high-low card flipping."
And, towards the end of the Eubanks run, was also used as the car portion of the Money Cards round-- the ten studio audience people of the same occupation were called in for one more question, and the champion moved a diamond to the number on the board representing his/her guess; a correct answer on the nose won the car, being off one either way got $500, but anything else got nothing more.
Whoever this guy on here is saying that NBC had destroyed most of the tapes of "Mindreaders". I believe that these tapes themselves were not destroyed, the network still was in the practice of "wiping" back then. In other words, erase the tapes and use the tapes for subsequent shows, thus saving money.
Mindreaders Is One of The Worst Goodson-Todman Game Show Of All Time.
I felt really bad for Dick Martin in this mess. He definitely did not seem comfortable.
If you npoticed the contestants, one is Captain Sticky. He was also on the Buddy Hackett version of You Bet Your Life & was featired pn Real {Pwople.
Mindreaders also didn't work because it was on the killer time slot of NOON EST/11:00 CST. Glad I live in Texas.
This show was a bit boring I'll admit. It was sort of a revival of an earlier Goodson-Todman show, "The Better Sex", which ran on ABC from July 1977 to January 1978. Someone came up with the idea to have two hosts for that show. They went with Bill Anderson, who was pretty well unknown if you weren't a country music fan, and Sarah Purcell, who at the time was co-hosting "A.M. Los Angeles" with Regis Philbin. That show was halfway decent, but unfortunately, it was carried in the 12pm "death" slot, where some affiliates didn't carry the show at all. In areas where they did, they had to go up against "The Young & the Restless". Tough competition there. The show was cancelled when the network decided to expand two of their soaps from 45 minutes to 1 hour, and moved "The $20,000 Pyramid" to that time slot.
Anyway, as for "The Better Sex", look it up for further info.
Notable for the tennis racket-like yes or no vote indicators in the audience vs the 5 person winning team bonus game.
I guess you could make a distinction between the men-vs-women format which is an integral part of the gameplay ("The Better Sex," which I did like) versus it being an artificial way to thread together a show (like that one "Chain Reaction" revival).
For "The Better Sex," the dual-host did work without being condescending. Each host supported their gender's team admirably without becoming too rah-rah. And the end-game (with those yes-no hand-held panels) did have some drama.
And it didnt help that it went up against the 20,000 pyramid (abc) and the young and the restless (cbs) if their affiliate even air it at all.