Any experience with this and VR? Even though I would expect motion sickness to become less of a problem, I am just a bit worried that maybe for some people it could get worse?!
I was thinking about that too and won’t be bad to be as an option and probably will be very easy to be implemented. However, the centrifugal effect gives that same feeling of acceleration while going out of the corner but it takes about bit from the deep trial braking effect.
@@YMSimRacingThe cheapest way is to make them, Simhub has support and its creator wotever, has a video where he shows it (Belt tensioner experiment, reworked design) and the support? All the plans are available on the simhub discord in the experimental-belt-tensionner channel
This looks amazing. Simracing keeps getting more immersive while the price drops. This is truly the time to be simracing. A few years back only race teams had direct drives for example.
😄😄😄 We are in constant trouble 🤣 That’s just handle from small rig which can start and stop video recording and in general that rig for video making with places for microphone, lights and batteries 🤛
I really hope you get a chance to test out the QS-CH2. I'm saving for a Qubic system and it's between a QS-210 then upgrading to a QS-CH2 later or saving for a couple years and grabbing a QS-S25. Of course I'm gonna need to toss a QS-BT1 in the mix either way now. Your reviews and videos have been essential to tracking down a motion manufacturer I feel will be a good investment. I think their software is going to get extremely refined and excel over the competition. They also are just the hobby side of a manufacturer that has the money to really invest in new technology and advanced programming which means they probably have some really cool things in the works, the QS-CH2 being just one of them. If it can give just half the sensation of drifting without the odd floaty reset feeling it will be worth it. I'm super curious how convincingly a QS-CH2 with a QS-BT1 could trick your brain that your really in a car.
Hey, You got me really intereted into this. I checked their website and QS advice to not buy simracing belts but real belts. So I checked Sabelt because... They seem to be fine; why else would you use them. However... studying their catalogue made me feel like I'm lacking a degree in race car building... or mabye even two; there are just too many options. Any advice on which belt you are using would be very much appreciate or which belts you think would be good for this system. Also... since I feel like the risk of rolling over in a sim isnt that bad, I wouldn't mind having only 4 belts... because... comfort around my "man bits". Do you think that's fine for the system or is having belts between your legs necesary for this to work properly? Thanks in advance.
Hey man, I think I made wrong statement saying 6 points is the probably the best way to go but ones i put my belts on 4 points things get way more comfortable without any change in the feeling of the system and I was super happy with that as it wasn’t really optimal for my balls 😁 However, about belts i strongly recommend 4 points and all FIA rated belts are absolutely the same in terms of comfort! My Sabelt belts where very cheap at the time I got them as the homologation was ended the previous year and i paid like 100€ You can go for whatever you find from Sabelt, Sparco, OMP and if you want to safe some cash, Beltenik have same belts for 100€ As I’ve said, whatever you take from those FIA homologated belts they will be absolutely the same for this case and only the stickers will be different!
As I said in the previous video I have tested belt tensioner at Maranello in Ferrari museum, just few years ago. I can clearly remember the feeling on going flat out through eau Rogue and Raidillon at SPA, insane sensation of lateral force and downforce
There is an option to set preload on the belts and I guess your question is very legit and makes lots of sense! I must provide your idea to Qubic System and I believe they will be very happy to listen and try to do it 💪
@@chepilevski great 😁 But still, it's unbelieveable what this thing is capable of, the future is now! And I'm even more excited that Qubic Systems is from my city 😆
Your whole sim racing rig looks awesome. We can see the joy you have when you smile after those GeForces hit you. I understand all too well, there are plenty of times while sim racing that I just can't stop smiling. I love the adrenaline rush when racing.
This is easily the best thing you can buy. Motion rigs are fun toys but they make driving harder and that’s just a fact. This is absolutely perfect and I’m 1000% buying one asap.
Without any doubts. The haptic feedback feels awesome and the G-Force under braking and turning changes completely the experience! There are few products on the market I can clearly suggest for absolute gaming upgrade and this is one of those 💪😃
It has progression in release while trial brake and if is pressed lighter! It is not linear and also move the pressure from left to right progressively with the weight transfer! I still have to find the perfect settings but I’m getting slowly there
I think this is absolutely great device on its own as it gives something nothing else can do and everything extra like but kickers or motion just adds on top of that! As much more I use it that much more love it 😃
This is my question. After having built my own G seat I was looking for a turnkey belt tensioner. But I find that all the belt tensioners get the belts incorrect. Under acceleration the belts shouldn't tighten. You are being pushed back into your seat by the G force of accelerating, which my G seat simulates by pushing the back panel forward and naturally tensioning my body against the belts. Under hard braking, then your seat harness should exert force on your body much much greater than when you are accellerating. How does this system work? Is it backward like most? Thanks
It works exactly as you mentioned! When you brake the belts tight and creat illusion of braking forces which the pressure added to your chest. That pressure is also progressive depending on the braking forces and the lateral forces in trial braking!
It is complementary for the motion world as it gives the sustained G-Forces! There is no way to compare both as they do different things but for sure they complete each other! Today I started testing it again with the motion activated and I understand the logic behind some settings if combined with motion activated! Each next day I see more and more value in this device 😃
Ta6nks for the review. I also hope qubic will add abs and traction control effects. Also in their motion software. It's available I'm simhub, SRS, simucube but not qubic for some reason.
Hey pal, would you say a 5 point belt is needed to get the best out of this system? I currently do own a 4 point belt but my seat offers the installation of a 5 point belt. I read users advising 5 point for a perfect experience. Also, I think I’d need those 3D printed Inlays for my Simlab speed one seat to have the belts not dragging down on my shoulders. Have you heard of those? They lift the belt up a bit when going through the holes in the back of the seat. Have a good week, Chepi. 👋
No bro, i actually tested my belts with 4 points only and felt way more comfortable particularly for my nuts 😁 4 points is definitely the way i will stay 💪
Thats my man Chepi enjoying his passion! 👏 thanks for your insight. I’ve put a belt tensioner system on my wish list now… but still I’m having a motion system at the top of my list. When I already own so much amazing gear to work with, there is always the idea of a motion system bringing so much more to the experience. Bass shaker, belt tensioner, motion… gosh… I can’t really decide. 😊 have a great weekend pal. 🤗
What a time to be a sim racer. Its just getting closer and closer to the real thing. Not to long ago force feedback wheels were a big thing and look at now, its crazy 🤯 Anyways, have a great week and happy racing 🏁🍻
That’s very interesting question. As the price difference is quite substantial I would say the Belt Tensioner will be less painful for the bank and still give insane immersion. I think right now I enjoy the most the tensioner but that may be because is new to the impression!
@@chepilevski I am also wonder how important is stiff seat for that tensioner. I am using GT Omega RS12 and it have quite a big movement on hinges. It is not bothering me while driving but maybe it will give dampening effect for belt tensioner
It does, and it's also made by Qubic systems (their other brand called Motion Systems I think), but its cost is more like 100k EUR or more and requires a lot of power lines and space.
@@RIP212 cant find it anywhere, I seen one custom one in this youtube short recently thats about it. Im talking about complete rotation so if u take a 360 degree ramp the rig keeps rotating untill you do a full 360 degrees
Wow, thanks for doing this video. Much appreciated. Its probably my next sim purchase. I don't have enough money for Motion and this seems like the next best thing.
Hey buddy, I have 6 points Sabelt but it turns out when I detach the bottom part between my legs is way more comfortable without making any difference in compression! So, I believe any 4 points racing belt will do the same job and will depend on how much you are willing to spend! I found my belts like many years ago which was out of homologation in very discount price like 100€ Beltenick 4 points belts are very good price for example and just as good as Sabelt,OMP, Sparco and all the other well known companies 🤛
@@chepilevskiYou too, have a great weekend too… one more question 😊. Sounds like this device adds great immersion but would you say lap times are not impacted with its use? I read a lot that motion systems impact lap times but hoping the belt tensioner has no affect on times. What would you say? Regards, Pete
@@pineapplegrips1989 I have no problems with lap times using my motion at all and even I began to understand better the behavior of the car from the road surface! The problem with motion devices making us slow is when they are not set properly and non of the exhaustion have them properly set for actual driving improvements and they become distracting! Ever feedback is very welcome and becomes important after long use ones we start to fully understand the provided feedback! I can now understand the problems of the car and can work on the setup to help the problems! Agin, I use to say the same thing for motion rigs before because I never tested properly set one!
My heart says 'interesting'.
My wallet says nothing while hiding in the corner.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Good one bro 😁
Near top of list for future upgrades. I hope to see someone cover flight sim side of what it can do.
Smile explained all 🚙💨
😁
Any experience with this and VR? Even though I would expect motion sickness to become less of a problem, I am just a bit worried that maybe for some people it could get worse?!
Has me wondering about overall strain on the body if used regularly, compression of the shoulders and potentially spinal compression
Serious question:
Any nipple rash?
Hows the immersion in vr?
Love the sound of that boxer engine btw ❤
I that’s something I will try extensively before make the full review buddy 🤛
Man thats cool
💪
Is there a spacer or raiser on your bucket seat shoulderbelt hole? did Qubic System provide that or was it made by yourself ?
At 0:30 sec of the video I have those low friction parts which just seat on the seat holes with dual Velcro straps and are part of the kit 🤛
@@chepilevski awesome! thanks for the info! great video as always!
So you get the braking effects on it right? Will settings acceleration effect make sense?
I was thinking about that too and won’t be bad to be as an option and probably will be very easy to be implemented.
However, the centrifugal effect gives that same feeling of acceleration while going out of the corner but it takes about bit from the deep trial braking effect.
@@chepilevski this thing is 3k in AU. Ouch.
I know there are alternatives I wonder if they are good.
@@YMSimRacing it’s expensive pleasure indeed bro🙈
To be honest I can’t comment for the alternative options as I haven’t tested them
@@YMSimRacingThe cheapest way is to make them, Simhub has support and its creator wotever, has a video where he shows it (Belt tensioner experiment, reworked design) and the support?
All the plans are available on the simhub discord in the experimental-belt-tensionner channel
@@JoseFcoBN build one.. same concept and 10th of the price
hi what is the lens on your gopro and what does it change?
Hey buddy, that’s not lens but adapter for filters which I use outdoor 🤛
Do you know if this unit will work with SimHub?
I don’t think so but the software is very polished and i don’t see a reason for SimHub to be involved 🤛
@@chepilevski thank you. I just love to centralise it all in one place. Do you have any affiliate links to Qubic?
I won't ask how much 😂😂
Don’t 😁
Damn you! I thought I was done with my rig. 🤣
Unfortunately we never are bro 🙈🙈🙈🤣
Have a great weekend 😃
It’s never done, and this is exactly why this hobby doesn’t stop to amaze us
I _hate_ you for bringing up new things I desire... 🤔
looks like a way cheaper way of immersion than a motion rig. My wife could _finally_ approve...
It is also super quiet and she will be happy with that 😁
Without a joke, this is incredible way to join the immersion world man 💪
This looks amazing. Simracing keeps getting more immersive while the price drops. This is truly the time to be simracing. A few years back only race teams had direct drives for example.
Absolutely agree man. I hope it will keep growing as it really is completely different in comparison to 2010 😃
Please my wallet can’t take this anymore 😅😅😅
Great video as always bro
What is that device plugged into the bottom of your phone?
😄😄😄
We are in constant trouble 🤣
That’s just handle from small rig which can start and stop video recording and in general that rig for video making with places for microphone, lights and batteries 🤛
I really hope you get a chance to test out the QS-CH2. I'm saving for a Qubic system and it's between a QS-210 then upgrading to a QS-CH2 later or saving for a couple years and grabbing a QS-S25. Of course I'm gonna need to toss a QS-BT1 in the mix either way now. Your reviews and videos have been essential to tracking down a motion manufacturer I feel will be a good investment. I think their software is going to get extremely refined and excel over the competition. They also are just the hobby side of a manufacturer that has the money to really invest in new technology and advanced programming which means they probably have some really cool things in the works, the QS-CH2 being just one of them. If it can give just half the sensation of drifting without the odd floaty reset feeling it will be worth it. I'm super curious how convincingly a QS-CH2 with a QS-BT1 could trick your brain that your really in a car.
Those guys are incredible from software point of view for sure😃
I really have to visit them for few days in Poland and test everything they have 💪
Hey,
You got me really intereted into this. I checked their website and QS advice to not buy simracing belts but real belts. So I checked Sabelt because... They seem to be fine; why else would you use them. However... studying their catalogue made me feel like I'm lacking a degree in race car building... or mabye even two; there are just too many options. Any advice on which belt you are using would be very much appreciate or which belts you think would be good for this system. Also... since I feel like the risk of rolling over in a sim isnt that bad, I wouldn't mind having only 4 belts... because... comfort around my "man bits". Do you think that's fine for the system or is having belts between your legs necesary for this to work properly?
Thanks in advance.
Hey man, I think I made wrong statement saying 6 points is the probably the best way to go but ones i put my belts on 4 points things get way more comfortable without any change in the feeling of the system and I was super happy with that as it wasn’t really optimal for my balls 😁
However, about belts i strongly recommend 4 points and all FIA rated belts are absolutely the same in terms of comfort!
My Sabelt belts where very cheap at the time I got them as the homologation was ended the previous year and i paid like 100€
You can go for whatever you find from Sabelt, Sparco, OMP and if you want to safe some cash, Beltenik have same belts for 100€
As I’ve said, whatever you take from those FIA homologated belts they will be absolutely the same for this case and only the stickers will be different!
As I said in the previous video I have tested belt tensioner at Maranello in Ferrari museum, just few years ago.
I can clearly remember the feeling on going flat out through eau Rogue and Raidillon at SPA, insane sensation of lateral force and downforce
It really changes the experience man 💪
Does it simulate acceleration g-forces? Like is there any stationary preload that is then released when you accelerate?
There is an option to set preload on the belts and I guess your question is very legit and makes lots of sense!
I must provide your idea to Qubic System and I believe they will be very happy to listen and try to do it 💪
@@chepilevski great 😁 But still, it's unbelieveable what this thing is capable of, the future is now! And I'm even more excited that Qubic Systems is from my city 😆
@@tomaszpoznanskimotorsport those guys are incredible💪
I really want to visit them and test some of the crazy stuff they build 😃
Easily the most immersive piece of gear I’ve ever added to my rig. The amount of force the QB-BT1 can exert is surprising.
I have to agree with you man!
Those forces are the biggest missing part in sim and this kit really do incredible job to pull me in the immersion 😃
Would you say it makes you faster ? 😊
For how simple of a product this really is, $1400 is way too much, make the price around $500 and people will start to look at it.
yeah.. there is good diy tensioner for simhub.. cost u around 350,- exact the same concept and working.. u have to have 3d printer though
6 Videos in 2 weeks 🔥
I cut watching short clips and sugars 😁
I can’t believe how much time I found for things I actually love doing 😃💪😄
Rally master, most honest bro! Love you, hate those others😂😂😂
😘😁
Have a great weekend brother 🍻
How far sim racing has come!
It only feels like yesterday that force feedback on Gran Turismo 1 was a big deal.
I’m thinking lately about that same thing 😁
It is crazy 💪
Awesome video, thank you for your detailed explanations! That's it, I'm sold with this, my wallet is gonna cry 😂😂
🙈🙈🙈🙈
Sorry bro but it will worth the pain 😁
Absolutely incredible immersion device 💪💪💪
Have a great weekend mate 🍻
@@chepilevski Haha yea I'm so looking forward for this to arrive, my inner kid is jumping 🙈🙈 Have an awesome weekend, too! 🤜🤜
@@bananaZn i can’t wait to hear from you and your first experience 😃
u also have to attach the underbelt to the fixed platform if u have surge, that will give u a double realistic experience..
Could you please 🙏 try it with VR and let us know the experience? Even if just a UA-cam short. Thank you
I definitely will and implement it in the full review buddy 🤛
@@chepilevskithank you again. You made us being even more passionate for the hobby
Exactly what I was thinking and very glad to hear. Awesome and clear review as always. Thank you!!
Worth looking at the new TensionR Pro
You should make some ballbearing rollers for belts going throught seat holes. I bet that without this qsbt1 force is weakened by friction
Comes with very low friction parts which are for the holes and works well without making the installation complicated 🤛
Your whole sim racing rig looks awesome. We can see the joy you have when you smile after those GeForces hit you. I understand all too well, there are plenty of times while sim racing that I just can't stop smiling. I love the adrenaline rush when racing.
Thanks for the kind words man🤗
We are lucky guys to be able to get joy from the hobby 💪💪💪
This is easily the best thing you can buy. Motion rigs are fun toys but they make driving harder and that’s just a fact. This is absolutely perfect and I’m 1000% buying one asap.
Lol, $3000- $20000 toys
@@antjones2281 Toys can’t be expensive? 😭😂 Tell us more guy who doesn’t own a rig and has never used a motion rig.
Totally agree mate
Motion when correctly set up does not make driving more difficult at all ! You don’t know anything about motion obviously so… 🤐
Bro is sad because he can't afford motion 😂😂😂
So would you say if you can necessary afford motion this is the way to go ?
Without any doubts.
The haptic feedback feels awesome and the G-Force under braking and turning changes completely the experience!
There are few products on the market I can clearly suggest for absolute gaming upgrade and this is one of those 💪😃
Your videos convinced me to buy one.
I can’t wait to hear from you and your first experience brother 😃
It changes the experience completely 💪💪💪
2:45 I hear Police sirens….???😮 They coming after you but they won’t catch you, you would drift them to dust 😁
Hahahaha 😂
Enjoy the weekend bro 😜
Is the belt tension progressively linked to brake force or does it give the same amount of force no matter how hard you brake?
It has progression in release while trial brake and if is pressed lighter!
It is not linear and also move the pressure from left to right progressively with the weight transfer!
I still have to find the perfect settings but I’m getting slowly there
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🍻
Great video! May I what wheel is that you're using, the one wrapped in suede?
Is the SimDid rally wheel buddy!
Here is the video about it ua-cam.com/video/cHdSwhi5dBU/v-deo.htmlsi=6_WVBQrZSiuQL6C9
Since I already have 2 buttkickers, do you think it is nice to combine?
I think this is absolutely great device on its own as it gives something nothing else can do and everything extra like but kickers or motion just adds on top of that!
As much more I use it that much more love it 😃
This is my question. After having built my own G seat I was looking for a turnkey belt tensioner. But I find that all the belt tensioners get the belts incorrect. Under acceleration the belts shouldn't tighten. You are being pushed back into your seat by the G force of accelerating, which my G seat simulates by pushing the back panel forward and naturally tensioning my body against the belts.
Under hard braking, then your seat harness should exert force on your body much much greater than when you are accellerating. How does this system work? Is it backward like most?
Thanks
It works exactly as you mentioned!
When you brake the belts tight and creat illusion of braking forces which the pressure added to your chest.
That pressure is also progressive depending on the braking forces and the lateral forces in trial braking!
@@chepilevski Wonderful! Thanks for the update.
Another great idea for a review. Thank you….!
Have a great weekend buddy 🤛
Страхотно видео, приятел! С голямо уважение, ваш фен 😊
Blagodarnosti Borka za podkrepata 🤗
off topic, but any chance you have a link to the rain in the background at 0:25 seconds in?, great video anyway gonna have to get one of these 😄
Oh man, every time I just type on UA-cam ( rain through the window) and thousands videos like those pops up and I just choose one 😁
@@chepilevski alright thanks buddy just love the vibe of your whole room let alone the sim, have a great day
@@swingbold6886 thx buddy 🤛
Enjoy the weekend 💪
Thanks for the testing. Looks like something i will be getting soon.
It feels better and better each next day while getting used to it and tweaking the settings man 😃
Is this more worth than motion? I already have a dbox but am wondering if this is even better.
Btw. I also race in VR. There is no going back. Haha
It is complementary for the motion world as it gives the sustained G-Forces!
There is no way to compare both as they do different things but for sure they complete each other!
Today I started testing it again with the motion activated and I understand the logic behind some settings if combined with motion activated!
Each next day I see more and more value in this device 😃
@@chepilevski Do you mind sending your profile settings for the system for iracing? :)
Ta6nks for the review. I also hope qubic will add abs and traction control effects. Also in their motion software. It's available I'm simhub, SRS, simucube but not qubic for some reason.
Hey pal, would you say a 5 point belt is needed to get the best out of this system? I currently do own a 4 point belt but my seat offers the installation of a 5 point belt. I read users advising 5 point for a perfect experience. Also, I think I’d need those 3D printed Inlays for my Simlab speed one seat to have the belts not dragging down on my shoulders. Have you heard of those? They lift the belt up a bit when going through the holes in the back of the seat. Have a good week, Chepi. 👋
No bro, i actually tested my belts with 4 points only and felt way more comfortable particularly for my nuts 😁
4 points is definitely the way i will stay 💪
@@chepilevski 😂 I like mine to be not harmed as well! Alright, thanks for the info! Take care. 👋
@@heelandtoeknee 😁
Thats my man Chepi enjoying his passion! 👏 thanks for your insight. I’ve put a belt tensioner system on my wish list now… but still I’m having a motion system at the top of my list. When I already own so much amazing gear to work with, there is always the idea of a motion system bringing so much more to the experience. Bass shaker, belt tensioner, motion… gosh… I can’t really decide. 😊 have a great weekend pal. 🤗
Based on your reviews I have ordered one. Definitely looking forward to have this on my rig.
One of the most experience changing devices for sure 💪
Can’t wait to hear from your experience buddy 😃💪
@@chepilevski I will definitely let you know, but it will take a while until I have it. It seems to be on backorder everywhere.
@@JJCAMulders hope will be sooner 🙈
Hey, what game is that in the clip?
That’s iRacing buddy 🤛
What a time to be a sim racer. Its just getting closer and closer to the real thing. Not to long ago force feedback wheels were a big thing and look at now, its crazy 🤯 Anyways, have a great week and happy racing 🏁🍻
This seems to be better than motion imo
I don’t think is better but it really do things that motion can’t💪
Those sustain forces are big for the experience 😃
For someone who want to have both: motion platform and belt tensioner - what would you recomment to get first?
That’s very interesting question.
As the price difference is quite substantial I would say the Belt Tensioner will be less painful for the bank and still give insane immersion.
I think right now I enjoy the most the tensioner but that may be because is new to the impression!
@@chepilevski I am also wonder how important is stiff seat for that tensioner. I am using GT Omega RS12 and it have quite a big movement on hinges. It is not bothering me while driving but maybe it will give dampening effect for belt tensioner
@@wojciechkozak5097 i don’t know about that buddy
Imagine a rig that can rotate 360 degrees to simulate cornering g forces, why doesnt it exist yet
It does, and it's also made by Qubic systems (their other brand called Motion Systems I think), but its cost is more like 100k EUR or more and requires a lot of power lines and space.
it does?
@@RIP212 cant find it anywhere, I seen one custom one in this youtube short recently thats about it. Im talking about complete rotation so if u take a 360 degree ramp the rig keeps rotating untill you do a full 360 degrees
You are giving ideas to those guys 😁
They have indeed one motion rig which the build for military training but it costs as is as big as helicopter 😁
It exists .. ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxFeHeVk6-S38_1NcODZWnQrDSvdl30bgF?si=QO8oPDeN0ew0ElRk
Wow, thanks for doing this video. Much appreciated. Its probably my next sim purchase.
I don't have enough money for Motion and this seems like the next best thing.
I have to agree about being the next best thing for immersion 😃💪
Just incredible.
Another chapter of Simracing. G-Forces on a budget. Keep digging brother.
Hugs brother 🤗
Every new piece of gear that adds to immersion is getting us closer to simulating reality. What a time to be a sim racer.
I sometimes can’t believe how far we have gone 😃
Thanks for reviewing. What seat belt do you recommend to use with the QS-BT1?
Hey buddy, I have 6 points Sabelt but it turns out when I detach the bottom part between my legs is way more comfortable without making any difference in compression!
So, I believe any 4 points racing belt will do the same job and will depend on how much you are willing to spend!
I found my belts like many years ago which was out of homologation in very discount price like 100€
Beltenick 4 points belts are very good price for example and just as good as Sabelt,OMP, Sparco and all the other well known companies 🤛
Thanks for info 🙏 Best Regards, Pete
@@pineapplegrips1989 have a great weekend buddy 🤛
@@chepilevskiYou too, have a great weekend too…
one more question 😊. Sounds like this device adds great immersion but would you say lap times are not impacted with its use? I read a lot that motion systems impact lap times but hoping the belt tensioner has no affect on times. What would you say? Regards, Pete
@@pineapplegrips1989 I have no problems with lap times using my motion at all and even I began to understand better the behavior of the car from the road surface!
The problem with motion devices making us slow is when they are not set properly and non of the exhaustion have them properly set for actual driving improvements and they become distracting!
Ever feedback is very welcome and becomes important after long use ones we start to fully understand the provided feedback!
I can now understand the problems of the car and can work on the setup to help the problems!
Agin, I use to say the same thing for motion rigs before because I never tested properly set one!
The smile in his face when driving says it all