The Most Common Mistake In Sim Racing
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Isn't the Porsche hitting the Turquoise Porsche braking and trying to avoid the crash instead of still pinning their throttle down and going for it though?
Yeah I agree with this, I don't think that was an intentional collision, the PoV car dives to the inside to try to avoid it as they don't think braking hard will be enough in the split second decision they have to figure this out, and it turns out neither was enough to avoid the collision. Turquoise was just being an utter pillock.
that's what I thought too, but who knows
Yeah he it looks like he is braking and going right assuming the Porsche is continuing to move left
Yes, he expects the idiot to go fully on the left side of the track so he dives to the right in anticipation but the moron instead chooses to stay roughly in the middle and make sure the crash is unavoidable.
I was thinking this as well - I wonder if Turquoise just panicked and froze rather than continuing with their move to the outside, which the POV car seemed to expect them to do.
yeah the Porsche looks like it's letting off to swerve around the back of the Turquoise Porsche.
Speed dropped by about 70 mph, you can see it in the dash, that looks like he was braking pretty hard if you ask me, as much as you would while turning to avoid a lock up, so yeah I think his error was he assumed normal behavior from the turquoise Porsche until it was too late. He expected room on the left.
@@retardno002 I also think it was a delayed reaction since you would never expect a car to swerve on that straight specifically, personally i stay quite tight going into T1 out of pit since you are not up to the pace where you need to aggressively pull your line out to make the corner.
It might be possible he let off to go on the right side seeing the closing gap on the left side of the turquoise Porsche so he let off to dive to the inside??????
I agree here, Porsche has reacted to the clown in front and got unlucky. Not really his fault.
He 100% tried to slow down but also waited way too long to try to avoid.
Jimmy at 8:20 I think you misread the situation. It seems to me the guy we're on board with realized the turquoise car is gonna go all the way to the left and was trying to pass him on the right. Yet the turquoise car doesn't go all the way and kinda stays on the left of the mid lane, so to speak.
This was my read as well
you can also hear and visualing see that when he realized what was happening, he clearly starting braking.
@@roxxess tbf it was too late at that point
Yep, this is exactly what I thought when seeing this. He slammed the brakes and tried to take the righthand side to pass that turquoise car. Which is a quite sensible thing to try and do when looking at how that turquoise car leaves the pitlane.
It doesn’t change what’s happening though. Just like driving in real life on public roads you never assume what someone is going to do. Be defensive and keep your self alive.
7:30 I feel like the car behind anticipated the other car was going to continue driving to the left racing line and tried to take the inside.
I got the same feeling. Seeing someone turning that hard out of the pits. I would assume they would go all the way to the left to make the first corner. So I would have also tried to pass on the inside seeing that. But the Turquise car ended up not going all the way to the left. Which caused them to crash. I think the Turquise car was blaming the other guy cause the Turquise car was going to give him room but the other dude got confused about what the Turquise car was doing.
Yeah, same... I think this was actually accident avoidance. Like, if you are driving toward a wreck, you always want to drive toward where the car /was/, anticipating that since they're moving, they'll have hopefully moved out of the way by the time you get there. But the turquoise car just kinda freaked out and stopped his move, hanging in the middle of the road
Yeah. It looked like the pov car saw the gap closing to the outside edge of the track, went to go inside the other car, and they made some contact because the other driver freaked out a bit
7:20 No, Jimmy, that wasn't an intentional ram. That was an attempt to evade, and the reaction time was about as fast as could be expected after the out-lap car cut across the track.
Not his fault, still made mistakes, both drivers were dumb. Also, maybe chill out on judging the way people observe things when you seem to have missed him saying it was “so dumb it looked intentional” as well as the fact that like 200 window lickers posted this exact same comment 🤣🤡
@TooBadBro3921 How was the POV car dumb? He hit the brakes and swerved to where he thought there would be a space because he thought the car leaving the pits was going to the edge of the track, which he unfortunately didn't. Jimmy said it looked intentional and carried on talking about it as if it was.
@@TooBadBro3921bro you don’t have to defend a bad take
@@youraverageotaku1093 I’m 100% confident I would’ve avoided that and just been pissed at the dumb one leaving pit road. The crash happened because they’re both dumb, and the POV car reacted to a mistake with a mistake
@@urbanerabyss4387 Super avoidable accident. Not defending any bad takes. My main point was the humor in the fact that hundreds of braindead gamers jumped in the comments thinking they’d be the first one to flex their knowledge and “correct” Jimmy, and the result is literally the same BS copy/pasted hundreds of times. But also, any experienced driver has every right to laugh at that crash and call it dumb because it was.
i don't condone the retaliation. but that punt @ 6:46 was beautiful
You cant help but admire it.
A work of art, truly
A modern day Sistine Chapel of a send.
I was the canadian car and holy hell i almost shit myself in the cockpit
I was the punter, I had had a series of bad races that day 😂 never thought I’d see myself in a broadbent video lmao. The yeet was pretty sick though
8:28 He took off 30MPH, and swerved to avoid his expected trajectory - I don't see that as, "Just drive into the back of him", I see it as, "Don't put yourself in the trajectory he's following". If there's going to be an accident, aim behind/to the rear/inside of where they're going so you can hopefully avoid. He's trying to do that. The Turquoise car was enough of a pillock that this still resulted in a crash, but he was clearly trying to avoid by 1) braking, and 2) steering to where he was, not where he is going to be. Sorry, @Jimmy Broadbent, but you got that one wrong.
8:24
I think this is more trying to avoid the blue dude while not knowing where he's going,
Realizing late what was happening,
At the rate that that blue guy was moving, half expecting to be clear by the time they'd meet
And an attempt to still salvage the lap by trying to keep a capable line
7:23 I am pretty sure this is not intentional, as the POV car started to brake as the turquoise car started to get in his line.
I think, he just panicked and tried to go around him from the right as he expected him to go fully to the left, but the turquoise didn't go fully to the left hence - crash.
Going to the left isn't the right way to come out of the pits there. You stick to the right half of the track.
@@samiraperi467 You are right. What I was saying is that the POV car expected the turquoise car to go fully to the left instead of being kind of in the middle.
@@samiraperi467you’re both kinda agreeing. In an ideal world turquoise car would have stayed far right and probably be letting off. But given he does the complete opposite I think the pov car did the best they could in the situation.
@@samiraperi467Yes. Well done. Your point?
That pass with lights off was probably one of the most funniest and amazing passes I've seen. Laughed my ass off. 😂😂
7:25 I'm not really sure why Jimmy thought the guy was trying to crash into the Turquoise Porsche, it's pretty obvious he was swerving to try and avoid him and it didn't quite go to plan.
Yeah, scratching my head about that one as well. The muppet was cutting hard to the left and the POV car was clearly trying to evade to the inside. He responded too late, but not an intentional ram. I mean, what's the motive? Throw your entire race because someone else can't rejoin properly?
Not sure how jimmy got that so wrong. Seemingly very obvious what happened
7:21 He was trying to avoid that guy coming out of the pits. He would most likely have to go on the grass on the left and that's why he swerved right. It's all on the turquoise car
Going to have to disagree on the Road America Porkers. The car at speed tries to brake (Speedo shows drop before contact), and move across the back of the turquoise Porsche coming out of the pits to try and avoid contact. Feel like it's 100% on turquoise car.
i love how almost every comment is about the road america porsche clip. for the record, i agree with yall
6:39 Uh, didn`t know about the canadian space program. Neat.
"technically you can't break too early" - tell that to Alonso
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I was looking for this comment 😅
ISSA YOKE, a YOKE
Jimmer with the 4D chess move "I'm gunna say he hit him on purpose" *Comments go wild and engagement turns into a straight stonks rocket*
I've lost count of the number of times I've been rear-ended slowing down for someone else's wreck. So infuriating.
As a South African, I humbly apologise for the man who took you out in the first race. We have a lot of passion
BOKKE!!!!!!
The lights incident is the funniest thing I've ever seen in this series. Deffo got a good laugh out of that, was almost cartoon esque
5:18 I feel like the Canada car, while not in the best position to hold that corner didn't really do anything wrong. I feel like the other car turned in quite a bit early for t11 at Laguna Seca. Maybe he was trying to defend the inside line, and misjudged, I'd lean more towards racing incident, maybe even putting blame on the other car. Also for the OP that's actually turn 2, as I recently found out. T1 is immediately after the start line, hardly a corner at all
Also agree with this. The Ferrari is attacking, is never fully ahead and turns in to take the apex. Where is the Canadian spaceship supposed to go? Is he to just anchor on and stop? Not sure in real life that he would get any penalty at all
when you have your nose on the inside and youre not alongside its your responsability to get your nose out of there
@@taffa4900 I don't disagree, but I do think the car ahead turned in too early (which he has every right to do so) but might be way the Canada car hadn't backed yet, thinking the other car will turn in later
This is my opinion too. The other car was overtaking on the outside, knowing the Canada car is there, the Canada car didn't appear to move under braking or anything. Then from my POV the other car just turned across him and spun himself. 🤷♂
@@taffa4900 my problem is though, the other car overtook him in the braking zone. It's not like he can retroactively brake earlier. Car overtaking has to do it cleanly, and he didn't, IMO.
6:46 POV: Jimmy getting torn apart by the comment section because of the 8:24 incident
Chat so completely slave to Mint is Right mindset that they cannot see another POV 😹
To be fair the comments are right. I'd love to see Jimmy try to just let off and hit the brakes in that instance and see how well he does. Jimmy usually don't miss but boy oh boy was that a terrible take
16:10 😂 saying he had a chance to avoid this is comical, the cars were still straight and out of the racing line until the last second
You can see on the speedometer that the car that crashed into the turquoise Porsche was braking right before the crash, so I think they swerved right because the Porsche went to the left, and wanted to avoid them.
Agreed, and then the turquoise Porsche stopped going left and staying in the middle of the track. The whole incident IMO is on the turquoise Porsche. The POV tried to avoid the incident as best he could. He saw the car moving left, so thought I go down the right side, the car stopped moving left and he had nowhere else to go.
OMG hi Youmo Man
8:32 was not intentional since that guy tried to move out of the way but the slower car changed its trajectory making the collision happen
15:33 “slow car ahead go right” me as far right of the track as possible 😂
I don't think the guy was trying to crash into the turquoise Porsche. I think he was probably trying to avoid him because the turquoise Porsche cut across the track.
Am I the only one that thinks that?
yea i think he thought the turquoise porsche would just keep going and instead he stopped turning in the middle of the straight
No, as the comments already show, it's pretty obvious.
Yeah I'd assume the guy just tried to go into the bigger space that was being created on the right hand side. One could assume the turquoise Porsche would have carried on going in the same direction to the left, thus leaving a gap on the right. I think Jimmy read it wrong here.
Not at all. He was clearly trying to avoid the other guy.
Yeah I'm with you, Turquoise Porsche did the worst thing you can do when you're blue flagged and made a half-move. Either stay off the line or 100% take it, don't start to move onto the line and then realize there's a car coming and stop...
15:30 gotta blame crew chief for that one 🤣
Good call on the retaliatory driving, there is zero tolerance for that in sim or in RL racing.
Except for GT7 😂
@@K0BRAH95 yee, arcsde be arcading...
@@Thuddster gt7…is…NOT…an….arcade…it’s.a.lower.level.sim
@K0BRAH95 it's really not. When fantasy cars are more important than detail in driving, it's not a sim anymore.
@@Ramonathosecond that gt and f1 games feel identical compared to acc for me can’t even feel the car loosing grip with understeer or oversteer acc you literally feel your wheel loose ffb as you understeer and regain it when you slightly open the wheel up allowing the tires to get grip again, not a sim but still not a bad entry into the sim world I feel like because it’s not that detailed people take it like an arcade game and don’t take it serious enough hence why I swapped to acc as it wasn’t enjoyable playing those games online
15:36 for this one i wouldn't expect the car in front to close the door on me if there is such a speed difference so i'd also be wrecked by this.
Agreed. Check your mirrors people.
I definitely wouldn’t have approached full throttle but there’s a good chance I still get wrecked since the guy moves off his line
What Jimmy is saying is protect yourself from idiots like those. Slowing down a bit will give you chance to react to any stupidity.
I wouldn't expect ANYTHING from the car in front and that means I would equally expect them to do the wrong thing as much as I would expect them to do the right thing because at the end of the day i'm approaching them while they're going at a snails pace and i'm at **maximum yeet**. normally when you overtake someone even though you're might be going at over 100mph when you pass them your closing speed will usually be something like 3mph, although you're both flying along you have seconds to see what's happening and react whereas here the closing speed is more like 160mph, there's no time to react to anything, in the time it takes them to look in the mirror and see exactly where you are you will already be firmly planted into their rear end so the slightest misjudgement by them or you will result in a crash. always lift and stabilise the car at a very minimum and be ready to brake as early as possible in these situations.
The green Porsche looks to be part of the "I can't be overtaken" group, a not so rare to spot group on sim-racing that prefers to crash than being overtaken. His reaction after the first crash makes it even better...
8:36 I have to disagree. He didn't know what the turquoise (the color of TURBO) car was going to do. So he swerved in the direction he thought would be clear. Unfortunately, the guy didn't move all the way left, so he was still in front of our friend, and there was contact. That is 100% on the TURBO colored car.
13:00 blue mx5 went full lance stroll
I though the same about the Jag livery.
As a Canadian, that is true for most Canadian F1 drivers since Jacques. Wait, it's just Stroll and GOATifi
Official petition to rename SimRacingStweards to "Drivey Crashy Was It My Faulty"
7:40
in fact you did drop few IQ points there Jimmy
Black Porsche was BRAKING and swerved to avoid the dummy in Turquoise Porsche.
That Porsche Cup incident on Road America I don't think the black car intentionally rammed the green car. The black car probably expected the green car to continue going to the left (also he's in the middle of the track which can be confusing), and the black car didn't have anywhere to avoid it.
Yeah deffinitly a scare reaction
hey jimmy, idk if you will read this, ive got to say, love your videos, saw a few of your shorts (i think) recently found your videos again and it got me back into sim racing also P.S also i dissagree with your verdict from 7:28 , i believe that the POV car was trying to go into the free space anticipating the teal car to move across, however should have slowed down
Yeah, definitely dead wrong on that turquoise Porsche incident, Jimmer. It clearly looks like the camera car is just reacting to, “Holy shit, this helmet is just going to keep drifting up into my lane, I need to take evasive action!” and just happened to clip the turquoise while trying to swerve away.
1000000% on the turquoise.
I don't know but at 15:36 the guy that was crashed into was going slow but went straight onto the racing line. Like I get the idea of why the guy that ran into him is not at fault but at the same time you can't just crossover onto the racing line when you're going abyssmally slower than racing speed. So it's at least 75 on the Moza Porsche
Jimmy : "You can break wherever you want..."
Alonso in Australia : " Are you sure about that?"
:D
8:33 I think he didn't try to punt the mint car on purpose, he just tried to go on the inside of the corner where there wasn't any other car but it wasn't enough space.
I think the Porsche at 8:25 expected the BMW to continue floating out to the side and swerved to avoid it, but by that point a single wrinkle had formed on the other driver's brain, just too late
Guy who turned his lights off is a Chad and should be allowed
Turns off lights
FOOOOOREVEEEEEER
TOOOOGETHEEEEEER
People not wanting to race in a racing game is extremely annoying. The amount of times people have messed up their qualifying and flash me all race because they can’t overtake is frustrating asf
15:44 mans literally said “oh no he’s gone off. Pepsi”
I’m glad you mentioned braking. People in lower classes (iracing license) don’t get that it is the responsibility of the car behind to NOT run into the back of the car in front of them. I got yelled at, at Laguna Seca, in the Ferrari series. 🤷♂️
7:20 youve got that wrong, Jimmy. The turquoise is pulling over to the left, the camera car expects him to *keep* going left so tries to pull over to the right.
Instead of pulling all the way over to the left, the turquoise car sits in the middle, then big bonk.
Turquoise is at fault
4:35 Blue car wanted to survive. It was the blue car's corner though. Had the blue car gone for it he would've been yeeted off and black would've been at fault.
9:08 Agreed, but I think OP assumed the turquoise car wouldn't come all the way across. The reason he didn't brake was that he was aiming to go around him and then into the corner. When he realized it was too late.
Yes, was looking for a comment about 4:35 here.
Blue had already committed and shifted weight to take that lime alone.
If it didn't take evasive action, the other car would have to spin out to avoid hurting someone else's race.
In my book, if an overtake requires you to check the mirrors to see them lunge onto the line and forces you to get out of the way, they are driving dangerously and threatening collisions to gain places
11:40 Pro Takumi Moment
Love the amount of insight Jimmy delivers with these videos!!
Jimmy, may I say, I've been through some tough times recently and your funny and entertaining commentary over your purely brilliant driving never fails to cheer me up! Thank you!
Hell yeah... Love me some Sim Racing Stewards content!! No we just need a new Togue video. 👍👍
Edit: Jimmer I normally agree with you, but you're way off on the turquoise Porsche call! The other driver clearly lets off the gas while turning towards the inside to try and avoid a collision, which is exact opposite of what you're saying he did. Just watch his speedometer during the clip and you can clearly see when the turquoise Porsche swerves out in front of the guy he immediately lets off the gas to slow down while turning towards the inside, bc and this is purely speculation on my part, he's guessing turquoise dude is going to continue driving towards the outside given his current trajectory, he's not stomping on or maintaining his speed to rear end the guy. If he did his speed would've remained at 160 instead of dropping off. Js
You know it’s a bad day when you retire in a sim racing stewards videos
8:28 He’s obviously veering right to try and avoid him and accidentally runs into the back of him
12:00 Bro with the Uno reverse card 1000 IQ strat... but illegal.
Love this seires, its the whole reason I subbed. keep em coming JIMMY!
I'm with everyone else with that Porsche, I would have done the same - my brain said "he's coming right into my line" the first time I saw it so I'd have tried to go inside too. Then the other guy used his mirrors & turned away from the racing line... that is a definite crash caused by someone not being predictable.
Pulling out of the pits like IRL that would be a trip to the stewards in practically any series, no? let alone if you caused an accident.
Turning your lights off in a game that has a radar is a bit of a silly move :p claiming someone braked too early when you're not boxed in is also dumb, just pull out a bit if you're not sure about them. ( Someone braking early and hard when you're boxed in is a nightmare and if you're going to do it at least give some indication by being gentle for a few metres, or they're likely to give you a kiss at least ).
In the past I'd have recommended hours on AC TF servers to give you a good sense for collision avoidance, but I dunno how popular they are these days.
Can we just talk about the little kid
scream at 15:34. LFMAO
15:42 has to be the best transition to a video sponsor I have seen
the headlights off move was FANTASTIC. absolute king
I thoroughly enjoy this series, well done, Jimmers!
The 15 car did a good air Canada impression. Both the being in the air and then abruptly on the ground were spot on.
11:23 This man is the Tizio Nuvolari of simracing 😂
11:24 ABSOLUTE W OF A HUMAN
Also the song is queen of times ever and ever
Jimmy boi- Would like to offer a suggestion on the next video. Instead of simply grabbing the most upvoted videos, have you considered sorting by most controversial? I joined r/simracingstewards after watching this series and I've noticed the top posts are generally pretty clear cut as far as who is "at fault". Meanwhile, if you find posts that have a ton of comments but zero upvotes those tend to be less clear as to who is at fault. I think breaking down those incidents the way you do (excellent by the way) would offer a new angle and really help out folks newer to the sim racing community.
At any rate, I always love these videos and look forward to the next one! This series really helped me to be a better driver and think more critically about how my actions can impact the other racers. Thanks for that.
I was ever so surprised when I rang Jimmys hotline that it not only went through (I didn't know emojis worked in telephone numbers) but he was waiting on the other end to talk through my concerns about racing other people in racing games. Now the tears rolling down my cheeks will be that of joy rather than fear as the whole field overtakes me while I swerve erratically and make comments about their mother over public chat
Love how the comments unanimously agree that the Road America turquoise porsche wreck was NOT close to intentional, but Jimmy spent so much time on it. Shows that opinions happen :) being a referee or steward is difficult if even Jimmy gets it wrong!
I think the turquoise incident he was trying to avoid the collision but didn’t know how far he was going to move and under anticipated this clipping the quarter with an improper reaction
The editing on this is on point. The dodgeball sound on the intentional wreck was amazing.
The editing of these videos are so good!
Love these jimmy ❤ please keep these going
6:40
To quote Tony Stewart
"That's awesome. I mean he didn't take him out, he junked him."
Quickly becoming my favorite segment on your channel.
0:00 seconds in.
Gud video 👍
15:36 you can literally see Jimmy question if Humans are really Rational beings. And at 15:37 we can see him realizing that the answer is "No"
I'm on that reddit and it's actually baffling how there are so many incidents that can easily be avoided by one of the two drivers just having even a tiny notion of self preservation.
People are far to scared to lose a tenth or two never mind a second or two that they ended up taking themselves and potentially another couple of cars completely out of the race.
9:15 the pov driver thought the blue boy was going more left so he cut right. Unfortunately, blue boy was slow af and the cut failed. I get it.
missed this series, nice to see a new episode 🙂
I think the porsche incident is very similar to what Jimmy had back when he drove into the back of someone in Daytona T1 in the BMW lmdh.
11:35 there was a IRL driver that did the same thing at Le Man a few years back
Love this, and your sense of humour!
Some truly bovine stuff in there this time - marvellous!
I swear ive been trying to timw this right to get onto sim racing stewards here. Ive got a collection of clips and Im waiting. I was literally typing out the post when I got the notification 😂
I really shouldn't be finding the intro to this video that funny! 😂😂😂
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I love everyone of these you do :)
11:25 This is a banger clip btw
Replicates the move done in Initial D against the Civic (and even timed the music to the video)
Some epic punts in this one, good stuff
Another great ep of Racey Crashy Is It My Faulty with Jimmy. GG
9:00, to me it looked like the guy was over reacting a bit, cause it did look like the guy was coming all the way across to the outside and pick up the racing line even though he is on his out lap. So the POV car saw that, over reacted, and tried to proactively avoid him with loosing minimal time by swerving onto the inside, but the other car didn't so the pov car railed him
Honestly felt as though this episode was great to learn from. Thanks jimmer :)
I honestly put zero blame for that last clip (Nords straight) on the POV driver. At some point you have to trust that the people in front of you will at least be somewhat predictable, or you can't make decisions. Whether we continue down the straight with the throttle pinned, or lift a bit to chop off 50kph, we still get destroyed if the guy in front decides to help us by 'moving out of the way' at the last moment. The guy in front at the very least needs to look in his mirrors before deciding whether to move across the track, and if there is anyone coming, he needs to immediately abort and stay where he is. Lifting here can easily lose us 8+ seconds because of the way the rest of the sector goes, and taking that penalty every single time to give us an extra 2% chance of surviving if the driver in front does something absurdly stupid is not a deal most competitive drivers would take, I don't think. In this instance, I'd rather just hope the driver in front isn't an imbecile, and aim to drive through the part of the track that isn't occupied. If he want's to drive in front of me at the last moment - good on him. It's so bad it's on the verge of intentional wrecking!
The other examples of people not slowing with an incident in front, I totally agree. Especially the Laguna one, where it's not clear which space the car in front is communicating he wants to occupy. He could easily close the door on the left, or the right, and we need to wait to see his intention and then go for the gap.
I agree with other people about the Road America pit lane exit example. I think the POV car did a fairly good job at attempting to react to a very last minute, unpredictable situation, and didn't have time to decelerate. He had to pick a gap, and go for it. Is the car in front going to move all the way over to the left because he hasn't seen him? Is he going to notice him in his mirrors and stop moving to the left to not get in the way? Is he going to move back over to the right to 'get out of the way'? We have no idea, and no time to decelerate, so we pretty much just have to guess. The driver went for the inside, the guy in front stopped in the middle of the track, there was a collision.
14:20 had me rolling, definitley a moan i needed to hear😂
In Oval racing, we refer to the unwillingness to slow down for an incident ahead (and thus becoming part of the incident) as "ARCA brakes", because it's a common failure both in the real-life ARCA series and in the iRacing ARCA series because of the relative inexperience of the drivers.
LMFAOO THE GUY FLYING IN THE AIR PLEASE MORE VIDEOS LIKE THIS JIMMY
15:30 That scream had me crying 😂
6:39 that was one solid kick
I would watch a live stream of this stuff, I love it so much haha
Some say the blue MX5 was being driven by Lance Stroll
This is always my favourite series from Jimmer
FANTASTIC INTRO JIMMY 😂😂😂😂😂