Ep 2 - How to Use Stunning Stains by Crimson Guitars - A Demonstration of the Finishing Oil
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- Опубліковано 3 лип 2024
- Welcome to Crimson Guitars ua-cam.com/users/CrimsonC... and welcome to a product demonstration from Master Luthier Ben Crowe at Crimson Guitars in the UK. www.crimsonguitars.com
In this episode, the Cherry Red stain has now dried and cured and Ben demonstrates the new Crimson Guitar Finishing Oil
For a wider range of stains and finishes see our shop - crimsonguitars.com/collections/guitar-finishing
Chapters
0:00 Introduction
0:20 Application of Crimson Guitar Finishing Oil
2:48 Once the oil begins to 'go off' rub away excess and leave it to cure
5:11 After 3 coats
7:48 Conclusion - Ep 3 next
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Seeing a project getting oiled is just so satisfying.
I should be practicing my guitar but I keep finding myself watching your amazing videos!!!! So interesting and informative even for a non guitar builder like me. Your one of a kind Ben ! Awesome.
Have just finished staining my new guitar. The stunning stains are great. Looking forward to getting it oiled up.
My cherry stain and finishing oil just arrived. Stain is easy to work with and is diluted just right. Finishing oil is amazing as soon as you put it on. Secons coat gets better. Has a nice sheen to it that makes the grain really beautiful.
Does look great for a process with specialist equipment amounting to a roll of paper. Would love to see the completed job once multiple coats applied.
Great stuff on this channel, been learning a lot from y'all! Rock onnnnn!
Wonderful video and wonderful finishing oil!
Just wanted to say thank you for inspiring me to restore my old guitar using many of the techniques in your videos I now have a lovely les Paul with a natural finish that I can't put down and it was stuck in bits in my shed for 5 years. So once again thank you Ben and all the team at Crimson guitars
+Ian Legg Thank you, it's great to hear success stories like yours.
Can't wait to try these, just made an order today for water based stains
VERY nicely done. THAT looks like a hum-dinger of a good project.
Brilliant Video, Thank you.
Melbourne, Australia.
I'm dreaming of owning a custom Tele Deluxe in exactly this finish one day... With your amazing stains & oil finish aswell as something like an unfinished Warmoth body this just might be possible. Amazing stuff!
I would love to see a guitar bass or standard with a built up finish to see more shine... The satin look you gave it. Very nice. 👍
Frankly... Great videos. Thank you so much, exactly what I needed
You guys inspire me to be a luthier something i have wanted to do for a long time my uncle makes beautiful guitars. Unfortunately i live in a trailer and the only tools i have are a knife and pliers so im gonna have to wait on that. :/ i love the look and sound of every one of your guitars i have heard. You guys have a bright future
I love oil finish awesome work
Quality, love oiled finish.
Hi Ben - actually pouring oil finishes, especially for the first few coats, is exactly the way to approach it. Once it starts to build I get a little more conservative - but those first coats need to fully penetrate. If i had enough volume to dip them in a vat of the stuff - I'd do that :-)
Looks great guys!!
Please, please, please - implore Christopher to do a tutorial on that gorgeous ocean burst finish he did. That is probably the most beautiful guitar I have ever seen in my life. I don't like the high maintenance frets and other excessive MIDI stuff, but I LOVE that finish on that quilted wood! Pity he wasn't on camera for that build.
Watched this series with my wife, who has been trying to decide on the finish for the guitar kit I’m building for her. Decision made! Placed my order for stain and finishing oil this morning.
Glad to help, thanks for your support! B
The finish is going to be perfect for me as I have some Black Manns Wood Dye which I have had for ages that I need to use up.
I am going to do my Tele body and headstock all Black and have been fretting (mind the pun) over the finish. This gives the Guitar a really nice matt look which is what I am after.
Wow 2x chemists to formulate it! I'm impressed. Good to mention that so we all know the degree of hard work you have going into your quality products.
How did I miss these videos, lol, I'm in the middle of refinishing a guitar, and have been damn near tearing my hair out looking for the materials.
I'm glad I chose the cherry red for an upcoming 175 build🤘🏿
Saul Goode how did it turn out?
That guitar sure does look nice!
A finish I would love to see from Crimson is a easy at home nitro lacquer. I have always loved the way nitro finishes age but have never come across an easy way to get that finish without spending ungodly amounts of money.
Nothing awesome ever comes easy or cheap.
thanks! great vids and good info as always
HEY BIG GUY LOVE IT GOT ABOUT 6 GUITARS OUT OF THE 20 THAT I'VE ASSUMED THE BUILDS ON I DID MY FIRST 5 , NEVER HAVE DONE ANYTHING LIKE A GUITAR BUILD NO EXPERIENCE BUT WATCHED YOUR VIDEOS NOW A YEAR LATER IM PUTTING OUT SOME QUALITY GUITARS . I STILL SHOP OUT A FEW THINGS BUT I'VE MADE GUITARS FOR 6 PAYING CLIENTS. SO AFTER MY INITIAL 20 BUILDS I'M ONLY IN THE HOLE ABOUT $5000BUT STILL DOING 5 BUILDS AT ONCE SEEMS TO KEEP ME BUSY AND FOCUSED ALWAYS SOMETHING
TO DO. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL YOUR ADVICE.
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Looks good!
I would really like to see the results after many more coats of stain. I can't believe that blue guitar that Toby demod was just finishing oil finish.
I really want to see one of these videos with the lacquer finish
Try this video - ua-cam.com/video/CUl7mRImcvU/v-deo.htmlsi=MXFPLQvDNvoReK6T
I am loving the videos! Thanks so much. Could you put a clear coat on a stained guitar?
need some slider tests of the dyes on different woods, need halp deciding what to get
Great video as usual. I was very interested seeing the finished result as I thought the initial staining was far too orange for Cherry Red - I still think the result is still a little too orange, but I guess it depends on wood type, and how many coats of stain are applied. Lovely finish though. Cheers.
Firstly thank you Ben and all your team, really good work. I look forward to each and every video, educational and entertaining, ideal mix 😀. I would personally like to see the stains from your range shown on wood to get an idea of colour. I know the colour will vary depending on wood and other factors, but to get a rough idea. I'm about to buy some stain and finishing oil from your website and really can't decide which direction to go colour wise. I hope this is possible at some point. Thank you again! 🎸
I'll have talitha put the pics up tomorrow.. I'm surprised they're not there already, my bad! Thank you for your support!
+Crimson Custom Guitars
Superb, thank you very much! 😀
thank you Ben . looks like it works well . do you have a video showing how many coats and the do you buff it after the coats. i did see you use the paper towels and rub it down i am guessing that was like a fine sanding between coats ?
Just started using this oil fingers crossed look ok after two coats just a bit tacky on back of neck but not fully cured yet, see what its like after 5 or 6 coats and leave fully cure.
So... I guess the settles it. I'm stripping my Les Paul and doing the back and sides in this stain. I need to get to your webstore and place an order!
+Woodeso's Guitar Mods I would think twice about that. I might be ugly as fuck under the finish.
+Woodeso's Guitar Mods I was thinking of doing the same thing. Suggestions on the easiest way to strip a guitar? :)
its real pain in the arse getting the finish off, not to mention sanding all the contours real nice, think twice before starting, but if youre dead set go for it! (i used a belt sander)
I used a heat gun. Great fun. No toxic fumes at all. :)
Not to a nitro finish Les Paul man why...
Ben, thanks so much for the incredibly helpful videos! Question: is it possible to do PRS style "masked-off" binding with dye or stain like this? or with the product simply bleed/seep under the tape and create a blotchy, jagged mess?
I have that same shirt!
you have great taste :) B
For all the questions below. Astro glide works for me.
This is a stunningly simple and outstanding finishing process. I'm hoping to give it a shot. What color is best for Butterscotch Blonde?
Would you recommend putting a couple of coats of wipe on poly over finishing oil, if yes after how long.
Brian
Hey Ben, could you possibly show us those white and faded blue stains? I've been wanting someone to make both of those for longer than I can remember...
I found you looking for ways to properly darken Pau Ferro fretboards… do you have a video of someone doing that? Might be a good one to make!
can you sand and seal the guitar before stain and oil, I have purchased your oil, I will now look at your stain colours.
Hello, I really like Crimson Guitars and your instructional videos. what would like to know is, I have a Epiphone SG G-400 (similar to the instrument in this video). it is ebony in color. I want to strip the color off of the face of the guitar and it's neck and do a worn type finish on it, but leave the Black color only on the sides, and back, and head stock of the guitar. can you please give me some advise. thank you
looking good ben.
are your stains compatible with other finishes like acrylic or poly 2k clearcoats ect.
also if you get the chance. can you do a video of the amber stain on maple and possibly brown on a softer wood please.
thanks
Ash
I will appreciate if you can update regarding sound difference (sustain, tonality) oil vs. nitro finish...
Do you need to scuff up the finish before applying additional coats? If so, what grit paper should be used? And how does wet-sanding apply in this case, if at all?
I don't know if you noticed, but you got a bunch of oil in the bridge pickup cavity!!!
Ben how abouut a tutorial on adding a suburst stain technique to an existing mahogany finish like the one you just finished?
Any thoughts to supplying a “sampler” package with an assortment of popular colors in smaller bottles?
Can you get a high gloss finish from this like I would with tru oil?
Please show the white stain. I am very interested in it. Thanks, great videos.
+Kenneth David He sucha tease, right?
NickyGoodWolf Frankly , yes
Question: After applying the oil coats to the finish and allowing a suitable cure time can you put a gloss (like a nitro-cellulose) on top of that for a glass like effect?
I saw a guitar with magnets instead of screws to hold the back electronics plate. I know that wood is your passion from watching alot of your videos but would the magnets affect the electronics in anyway? thank you for all your sharing of information.
Ben, I was wondering if this oil finish will have the same frictionless feel that tru oil has on a neck, thanks.
Yes its great
After watching those two videos I realy want to refinish my guitar now... on the other hand I don't have any experience :'(
What grit sandpapering was done before applying the stain? What is the best grit to get up to for the best results?
This would be cool to use on the top of a old acoustic i want to stain blue and refinish, the question is, how well would a bridge that will be glued on bind to a top finished in this oil?
I am very interested in oil on a guitar. I have built a couple of strars which are brilliant, but one think I have problems with is the finish.
Can I ask a couple of questions -
1. Can you apply oil over a painted guitar - aerosol cans (car paint with primer) or does it only work with stains which keep the wood grain open?
Cheers.
Stuart
I've used lots of Tru-Oil on gunstocks, of course, and with that stuff, to get a bit of a shine, it gets rubbed out (with rottenstone, for us geezers.) Would you recommend a similar process to bring your oil up to a shiny finish?
2 chemists worked 6 month to create wiping varnishing? Its one part boiled linseed oil, one part spirits and one part spirit varnish - I've been a woodworker long enough to recognise wiping varnish AKA Danish Oil. For a finer finish add more spirit and less varnish.
I did a burst on my guitar will this oil dilute or ruin the stain
What is the difference between your stunning stains and stunning spirit stains?
Ben!!! Crimson Guitar videos are highly adictive! I know this is an old video but I'm hoping you read these. I just discovered you guys.
Anyway, I've ordered your finishing oil with some stains. Black and red. I'm applying this to an SG body shape with a spalted maple top that I've put together. My idea is to dob the black around the edges, barley going past the SGs bevels. Then apply the red. How many coats of red need to be applied before I get a deeper red color? Thanks. Your videos really are my favorite. Blessings to you and your family!!!
Just keep going until you have the colour you nees. If you really want a very deep colour you should look at the Vibrant Shots and do not dilute very much, or try it neat. www.crimsonguitars.com/collections/guitar-finishing/products/new-stunning-stain-shots-pastel-vibrant
Ben, would the oil seal a maple neck instead of using a clear coat, or would dirt still build up in the top layer?
Do you have ant example pictures of the different colours?
I know this video is seven years old, but on the website now there are 4 different finish oils. This one used, which one is it? Many thanks!
Would this require sanding between coats? or is it fairly straightforward?
If the true oil / your oil builds up after the first layer or so; with a porous wood like mahogany or cedar - do you still need to fill grain before applying? Not used oils before.
Hi
I have lightly stained my guitar. Now I need to seal it with clear varnish etc. Any tips on what to use?
Hi, fellas. I've been using your Stunning Stains. Excellent product. Is there a high gloss lacquer I could use over the top for a really deep shine?
Could I get a similar finish with just the Tru oil that I already have?
Love your videos, thanks for the info.
Yes you do, just mix it with the white spirit and it will penetrate to the wood better.
Interesting product Ben and a lovely finish too. Would this product be ok for classical/ steel string acoustic applications ?These are the guitars I make, no bother with the the rosewood sides and mahogany necks, as these are easy to finish to a high standard, but what about the spruce/pine tops ?Would welcome your thoughts on this, thank you.Cheers,Midge.
Bill Hearn.
Hi Ben I am just bought a used strat body and aim to renovate, I have just watched your video and I like the idea of staining, thefinish you got was very nice but I am wondering if I could infact apply a wax polish to obtain a reasonable sheen to the body or would I get a reaction. Hoping you can advise. Regards Bill.
How is the durability and physical resilience like of this finish compared to more "conventional" ones like nitrocellulose and poly? I'm considering a future sanding down and refinishing of the neck on my current main instrument to make it less shiny and sticky
Do you put the binding on the body before or after you apply the stain and oil? I'm assuming before right?
Great video, I love your channel! Can I get the Crimson oil shipped to the US?
D'oh i wish i'd known about them dyes sooner! Well i'll be using your dye and oil on my next project an amber iceman :) superb pricing.
On another note, would you say its possible for a hobby to pay for itself ie i'm no woodworker really but i like taking old guitars and transforming them and probably going to get the iceman in kit form. What i'm thinking is maybe if i make some and then sell them the hobby could pay for itself kind of thing not sure if people are in to buying kit and restored
I'm looking to finish quilted maple topped guitar with a mahogany body using your stains and finishing oil. Only the maple will be stained, then the whole body finished. Do I need to use grain filler on the mahogany before the oil? Also, the body is bound, is this something to worry about or should i just scrape the binding after finishing? thanks
Hey Ben, is it possible to build up a glossy finish with this oil over many coats as you would with Tru Oil?
Hey I'm a bit late to the gig here but would you recommend your products on a spalted top?thanks I dig your videos you got me into this many years ago .
Can you guys make a video demonstrating its high gloss potential?
Will do, check out tomorrow's for a medium gloss.. Christophers custom tele is stunning with only 7 coats of oil.
Do you apply something else on top to make a shinier gloss?
Hello, how to paint guitar, so you can't see wood ? I mean like you cant see thru laquer, just good solid color?
That's a very nicely finished guitar! I just have a couple questions before pull the trigger and buy oil that may be of no use to me! I want a matt finish on a matt black guitar and wondered if this oil would work as well as lacquer on paint as oppose to stain, or is it better to just stick to the spray on lacquer? Also, I have scolloped a neck (just for a laugh) and now need to seal it. Is this oil a good choice for the neck including fretboard, or would I be better off using a different finish on the rosewood? Thanks Ben, I have spent so much time watching all your vids in random orders, I could have built several guitars by now! :-)
Is there a pigment to the stain? I have your stunning stains in the white color and would like to know.
i got a gibson worn brown faded if i sanded it with 0000 steel wool and rub some cherry staind will this work out well? i kinda want a more cherry faded vintage worn look
Hi, could I then put some kind of poly on top of it? Or does the oil do the same? Sorry I'm new to this and getting ideas for a school project. Great channel btw.
What type of silica paper is being used to apply the finish? I can't find anything that seems remotely similar online anywhere.
I think its just ordinary paper towel. Which I believe has clay in it which may have trace amounts of silica in it. Just the natural stuff that you have in paper. Remember how your mum would get angry if you used her fabric scissors on paper? Thats why cause most paper has trace amounts of abrasives in it that will dull scissors which I think is what Ben is taking advantage of here.
Will your oil "melt" into itself?
One of the worst aspects of truoil are witness lines.
it will soak in fine, but problems arise when you build it up. Unless you thin the oil and spray the last coats, you can never get it to look "lacguer like"
Did you rub the excess oil off with a tissue or a light grade wet and dry sandpaper?
Hey, should i use penetrating finishing oil or high build up finishing oil?
This is just a beautiful! Love that the finish is not glossy and has this nice satin look! Did you apply it on the neck also?
Yes, we use it on necks as well.. a lovely feeling finish indeed. B
@@CrimsonCustomGuitars Thanks! Now I know what present I will be getting myself for my birthday! :D
Does the range of stains work through an airbrush?
will this buff up to a flat mirror like finish like a nitro or urethane finish, also can it be applied to a guitar that has had a spirit based grain filler and spirit based stain?
How does this compare to Minwax Antique Oil, which is a really great alternative to Birchwood-Casey Tru Oil and and also used by makers of fine gun stocks?