Just a Tory minister getting rinsed by journalists over NHS nurses' pay
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- Опубліковано 5 лют 2023
- Not often a nurse and nurses' union member is sent out to tell nurses to stop striking.
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Wow we have children of immigrants in office who hate immigrants and now a nurse who sounds like she hates nurses and won't pay them what they require. Mind blowing.
Kicking the ladder away from everyone else once they've made it up to the next level? (in their eyes) Totally disgraceful behavior.
Immigration is capitalism importing an over supply of labour in, which is a race to the bottom particularly for the working class. Oligarchs love immigration.
Capitalism will never invest in training or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour. Back in the day even Bernie Sanders was anti immigration.
Its truly sad isn't it? That's what some call 'assimilation'.
You are all immigrants..am i lying..anglo Saxons..where did you come from?
@@evolassunglasses4673 Absolute rubbish. You can have open immigration and still have good wages and conditions. One doesn't preclude the other in a healthy society. Unfortunately, UK & USA have very sick societies where money and greed rule.
I haven't hated a government this much since Thatcher and her poll tax, it's very depressing
Hate the Left more for always messing up. Corbyn could of accepted the result of the Referendum, he was anti EU all his political life just like his hero Tony Benn. But he flipped flopped and crashed in the Old Labour Leave seats.
I couldn't bear Thatcher but this lot are worse!!
@@evolassunglasses4673 what total nonsense
thank you: exactly how i feel
I loved Maggie, and believe we need someone like her. It's nurses I hate. They are inconsiderate, greedy, and hateful. People are suffering because of them, and they should be disgusted with themselves
So basically her message is "We won't offer nurses a pay rise because we have to pay for it - and we'd rather give the money to our mates and donors."
Forgeting that it isn't "thier money" even though they treat it as if it were.
But private sector pay is going up which means there is more money taken in tax. The Government can afford it. They refuse to...
@@Sirlarrythecat absolutely
It isn't the government who have to meet these crazy demands, it's the tax payer. Nurses have a decent wage, a brilliant pension, endless sick pay, and job security. They should be disgusted with themselves. It's sick people who are suffering now
And her expenses alone during the 2020-21 financial year were £192,189.25.
New law should be introduced, if a politician doesn't answer a question honestly they should have a few days in jail.
They’d all be in jail permanently
They go to special schools to learn to lie .They must have because the only thing they seem to have learnd at them
Nah they should be put in stocks and let the public throw REALLY HEAVY THINGS AT THEM!!😏🤣🤣🙌🙌
Nah, they should spend a few months on minimum wage instead.
This government is a total shambles.
Actually it's not that good.
It's NOT independent when the gov set the remit. Sick of the lies out of their mouths. Bonus cap lifted for bankers. I bet MP's get their rise though.
£2500 this year. Above inflation for most of the last 13
@@markbriten6999 Indeed Mark. Despicable.
@@markbriten6999 doesn't matter. Inflation is at over 10% and their pay wasn't high to begin with!
Reduce MPs pay to nurses pay and then watch it come up!
whats even dumber is that they try the doublethink of "oh we have to respect the independent payreview." while at the same time "oh yeah no we have disregarded that payreview in the past all the time, thats no problem."
Heroes during the pandemic; no longer worth a decent pat rise. 😡
Scamdemic
The Tories have been refusing to give them proper pay rises for a long time, and yet the British public rewarded them for it with a massive 80 seat majority. It's pretty stupid that a lot of the people who are now claiming to be on the side of the nurses, are the same wankers who voted for our nurses to get absolutely shafted via the Tories and Brexshit. This country is run by idiots who were elected by idiots.
Pat rise 😂.
@@TheTwosliceToaster Agreed. This government is in the business of enriching their crony mates, the immiseration of the poor even further & the destruction of the welfare state. I can’t understand why working class people ever vote for them.
One nurse picketing held up a placard which said, ‘A NURSE IS FOR LIFE, NOT JUST FOR COVID’.So apt.
If that is a nurses ally, we are all doomed.
She was a nurse! Go figure.
@@tomtheeagle1 But now she's aboard the gravy train toot-toot
@@tomtheeagle1 yes but always a Tory along with it
Amazing isn’t it.A nurse who’s now a Tory Minister, who has no empathy with nurses who are trying to get a payrise.And you heard Sunak lie when he was being interviewed by Piers Morgan, regarding helping the nurses and saying he wishes he could give them what they want.The simple truth is that the Tories Just dont want to work with the Unions.We saw how Thatcher was with the miners Unions, and Sunak(a Thatcherite), doesn’t want to yield to them.Offering a FOUR PERCENT rise is just a joke.Why he won’t give them an EIGHT or NINE PERCENT rise and just end all of this baffles me.They wanted a NINETEEN PERCENT rise, which they were never going to get.Meet in the middle, and all of this ends,but that’s not what Sunak wants to do.And how weak was Morgan’s questioning? Has he forgotten how the Conservatives BOYCOTTED GOOD MORNING BRITAIN, when he was one of the hosts,during Covid? He should have been grilling Sunak,not treating him like one of his mates!
@@tomtheeagle1 Yep, and so happy with the pay, working conditions and prospects she did a runner! A poster girl for how not to retain staff. The irony is hilarious and pathetic.
Independent? Government appointed, and they deduce payment based on the budget, if the budget is low then the review body cant raise pay that much.
_Literally agree with you there, first two words. It is by no metric independent. Claudfield knows this, most definitely._
To think this woman used to be a nurse. The phrase "i'm alright Jack" with my ministers salary springs to mind.
But how long was she a nurse for? Can't trust 'em.I'm sure Michael Gove tried to make out he had worked for Sainsbury's, but it was just a casual job believe,student job I suppose.They will NEVER be on our side so let's prepare for change.
Right so that explains one of the nurse vacancies what about the other 139,999 ? Do you think pay might be a factor in some way?
Can't understand how a nurse would ever be a tory, just makes no sense
Nurse Ratched
Shameful behaviour.
FYI. Politicians accepted a £2,500 payrise last month. The rest of us can just get on with being poor while they rinse every penny they can out of us. I know how to sort the lot out, the French probably would loan us a few guillotines if we ask nicely. Failing that a general election will do the job.
Sorry, we don't have any now. But I believe there are a few in the museums in Germany !
i mean you did literally elect these fucknuggets about five times in a row
Long live the revolution...
Oh, come on. Last week the health minister was boasting about "over 3 hours" spent speakign with the nurses' representatives in 3 weeks.
They work so incredibly hard. Imagine you had to work "over 3 hours" the nest 3 weeks...
Personally I'm all for the guillotine !
Nurses didn't get 3% last year, it was around 1% With the increase in NI and pensions it was actually a real terms pay cut. 12th year running I understand
She was also deliberately trying to lie about the rcn in scotland for the benefit of honesty the rcn did reject the current pay rise but the uplift for a band 6 was slightly over 2500 per year which was paid to all staff last thursday and that includes rcn members the discussions currently ongoing are regarding 2034 /24 with the hope that across both pay years the current deficit will be balanced but again MSM never challenge them on these deflections and lies
and that is exactly what will happen again if you give the public sector massive pay rises the tax will go up to pay for it were do you lot think the money comes from its inflation that is the money killer
They did get 3% last year then all class 4 NI payments were increased. I am fed up with people saying it’s a pay cut in real terms blah blah. If I agree a pay rise it’s based on net pay it doesn’t allow and no one does for increases in taxes
And she ignored northern ireland didnt even mention Northern Ireland
_Okay, she completely lied about ambulances. Every strike day we've had so far, we'd almost had zero waiting times on calls. That's indicative of a educational challenge in the pubic._
I know barristers are important and they are a legitimate legal protection afforded to the public, but we're all far likelier to need the services of our doctors and nurses. And I hope they'd be a lot kinder than this.....
Barristers eventually went on an indefinite strike. Might be time for other places to do that.
Not if you're a career criminal.
3:58 we’ve not accepted the ‘independent’ pay review body’s recommendations before which shows it’s independent. No. It’s shows you’re prepared to ignore it if the recommendation doesn’t suit you.
She's conflating two types of independence. Implying that the government isn't independent of the pay review body as if the body is in charge of them. No one thinks that. The question is are the government in charge of the pay review bodies? Well of course they are, and if they're in charge of them of course they can ignore them when they want to.
@@IshtarNike the problem is that they’re happy to follow it one year but ignore it the next and they don’t see the duplicity in that.
Did she just put the priorities of a criminal's need for defense over a direly underpaid nurse?. Was that the best example she could come up with?
I'm glad someone else noticed that even if it wasn't the interviewer
Why the interviewer didn't shoot the opposite back at her "if you're a child in critical care"
Maybe because the Torries set the record for Prime Ministerial criminal activity
She did but she is a Tory
MPs gave themselves a pay rise
But everyone else can kick rocks
The tories love rock's isn't that a name for crack cocaine !
They have offered nurses the day deal that was recommended by independent body. Mps got 2.9%
How come mps got a pay raise but no one else gets so much as a high five
They got a clap....
She’s doing a great job for nurse recruitment. Why would anyone want to work as a nurse with these hypocrites in charge. The tories just want to privatise and in the words of a recently x pm (x rated) “LET THE BODIES MOUNT UP”
The other comments I've seen is you knew the conditions when you joined. If that over 5 years ago no they didn't it's really gone to shit since 2017
CNJ
Even these crooks can't hide the fact anymore, that they are bursting to fully privatise the NHS .
She comes across so poorly. There is no way she would make it to ministerial level in any government before 2019. Poor communicator, not the brightest and not exactly personable. More or less the norm for most Tory ministers.
That’s what I find the most annoying, they are so bankrupt of talent they can’t even lie properly
100% correct.
More than likely a paid up member of the Brexitaliban.
Was this comment made before the Tories gave Truss the job of running the country.?
Cut MPs salaries to Nil and sack all the Greedy Tories.
Just pay all MPs the national average wage... Then see how fast change happens.
Stephen Harrison
Then that would mean there'd be no Tories left.
Hey, that's not a bad idea after all.
Well said Steve how about scrap all there expenses
Cut their salaries to the average person and are who hangs around, and especially who goes into nursing
Cut it to nurses pay and then watch it be increased.
They never say we cant afford to go to war do they?Allways money for war.
They NEVER give a straight answer to a straight question. Still, being an overpaid minister is far more financially rewarding than being a nurse, so she made the right career choice. What an insufferable hypocrite this woman is.
Not in the same league as a nurse.
_Apprenticeships for Nursing god awful. You're constantly expected to do things that are above your remit and pushed to work crazy hours AND study on top of it, for a pittance. It's not a good deal at all, and why would anyone subject themselves to three years of that - to simply be outclassed by a McDonald's worker in terms of salary?_
The alternative being to do exactly the same amount of work and study, but take on student debt and get maintenance loans that barely cover rent?
Spot on. No incentives for a nurse
And if you're of that calibre you could easily get on the MacDonalds management training scheme. I believe it's very highly thought if throughout business. And come out with an MBA and no debt
@@eliasashwood1460 _Incorrect, you'd do less work, because you're specifically on placement to complete OARs, not to work. You take on student debt yes, the best kind of debt available, and the loans and maintenance easily covers costs, not to mention expenses that are covered by NHSBSA for being in receipt of aforementioned loan and £15k bursary._
_Basically, the alternative is objectively better._
Best part is there are plenty of students training to go into nursing. Most of them don't make it through because they are expected to do a fulltime job on top of studies and most of them see the writing on the wall and change their profession
« I know how difficult it is to live on a nurses wage….
Which is why I became an MP »
And her job is so easy I bet she has more than one job 🙄
So I could afford my Cocaine bill more like !
Nurses have had under inflation pay rises since the Cameron days and they are far more important than barristers. What an outrageous thing for this woman to say particularly with her nursing background. Is this a case of I’m alright jack pull up the ladder.
Well said… it’s Cameron, Osbourne and the banking industry, who started this mess, austerity went on far too long after WE tax payers bailed the banks out. Then the genius political move from Cameron was to hold a referendum on staying in the EU? It created a perfect storm for Bodge Johnson to creep in through the back door, like some nefarious poltergeist. Where is that moron Cameron now I wonder?
She should be ashamed of herself
1:31 "because we have to pay for it" ...yeh, that's right. 2 million IQ
How treacherous can this woman be to her one time colleagues?
"We returned the bursary"
To a lower level than it was before being scrapped.
I trained on the old bursary.
£400 a month for 37.5 hours a week work. Nights, weekends and study. So like 9p an hour?
I dread to think what this new bursary looks like
“Burn the bridges right after I walk across!!!”
“Boot straps poor people!!!!”
“Where is your personal responsibility!!!!”
THESE PEOPLE ARE GREED VAMPIRES!!!!!
Just so everyone knows, the independent pay review process isn't independent. The suggestions of this body were also made before inflation ramped up so they are completely outdated and worthless.
Maria love, you need to be a more convincing liar if you want to progress in the tory party
If she knows how hard it is to live on a nurse’s salary why isn’t she fighting for them to get more.
MPs Happen to be front of the queue for pay rises
We have a roll to all tax payers! Yes providing the services they pay for.
It’s always no name tories who get thrown infront of the Mic.
She has a nursing background, I guess u would have been over the moon if it was Hancock
So if on a non-strike day someone has a heart attack and dies because the ambulance or medical aid isn’t as it should be, she has just made the case for anyone taking legal action for the loss of life result from the governments failure to maintain an adequate standard of care.
For many, the NHS stands for no help service I'm afraid.
@@Neil.C57510 Due to successive tory governments running it into the ground for 13 years, not because of nurses and other healthcare staff.
"We have a responsibility to all tax payers in this country..."
Didn't seem to care when they were giving billions go their pals during the pandemic though did they?!
Notice how the tory immediately went with “criminal” instead of “someone who needs legal assistance”.
There are over 130,000 vacancies in the NHS. If we can't afford the extra for the nurses we have now I can only assume if magically all those vacancies were filled the existing staff would have to have a pay cut.
You see there is a reason why UK produces less nurses and have to hire from abroad. If these nurses were paid half decent it would attract more people into the sector.
Tory logic
Immigration is capitalism importing an over supply of labour in, which is a race to the bottom. Capitalism will never invest in training or increase pay and conditions if it can just fly in labour.
*_Our poliiticians are rotten to the core. They obviously wanting to break the NHS so that they can privatise it for their cronies._*
I have not seen this addressed by anyone. The quality of journalism and reporting in the mainstream media is woeful.
So a lawyer on say £100.000 gets a payrise ( given by the pay review body) of 15%. By my calculation that's a £15.000 payrise. A nurse on £20.000 gets a rise of 4% that's a rise of £800 . So how exactly do the "independent" pay review body say that one section of the workforce gets so much more than another. All of our living costs are the same unless of course you are factoring in the class divide.
Look at the number of lawyers amongst the person in the Tory government
Lawyers get paid more than sufficiently.
A nurse starting pay is £27055
Nurses get more than 20k. Another twat reply
A turnip in a wig.
Hang on… if the government doesn’t like the independent findings they ignore them but still claim the process is independent when it suits them?
When have they said they don’t like them? They haven’t they said for junior docs they could not afford the offered increase last time
All these politicians saying "My door is always open!" The trouble is they are not in the room.
More accurate to say their mouth is always open and their eyes and ears are always closed.
Have they cloned Thérèse Coffey?
Getting there ,needs more fags and chocolates
@@michaelmather7352 about 5 years then?
2 simple rules for life;
No.1 - Never trust a tory
No.2 - Never forget rule number 1
This MP has forgotten her roots being an ex nurse. How sad!
She hadn't forgotten it. She is milking it for sympathy, just doesn't feel the brother/sisterhood it implies.
She will lose her Lewes seat to the Lib Dems at the next election.
If as Maria says "we have a responsibility to taxpayers " why is she not asked about the PPE wastage.
Hypocrite !!
Percentages are pretty meaningless when it comes to deciding whether renumeration is now fair. If there is a lack of qualified people willing to do a job, you need to stump up cash until there are enough people who will accept it.
Also percentage increases disproportionately benefit those already on higher salaries.
Market forces; until it comes to pay.
Maria Caulfield- Muppetry for beginners!
The independent pay review body is not independent they are appoint by the government and the terms consider are set by the government
How many barristers are mps or become mps that get 15% looking after their own again ,got money for more mps and Lords
Junior barristers and all those doing legal aid work were being paid a pittance. The 15% is a drop in the ocean of what they have been stiffed on while our access to justice has been taken away.
@tomtheeagle1 while I agree don't see junior doctors getting 15% do you
,what are we short of the most ?
She is our local MP. Typical hard faced Tory. Vote them all out!!!
Glad to see someone, ie Nick Ferrari of all people, bringing up the barrister's pay increase. Those strikes lasted from June 2022 to October 2022. They asked for 15% and guess what, they got 15%. I wonder if the independent pay review board suggested anything? tories are kernts.
This person is in position of authority....my head is banging against the wall so to speak.
Just remember 15%of a lot is a lot more than 4% of little. A LOT MORE! Where is the fairness in all this!!
The independent pay review bodies recommendations were based on a very low inflation figures and not the present 14%. Also because of liz trust destruction of the economy mortgages went through the roof.
*_Pay them probably ffs! MP's have had considerable pay increase's & they are pretty much useless. MP's serve themselves at our expense. Same appies to back office civil servants & their comfortable roles._*
Civil servants have been constantly stiffed on their salaries with pay freezes or well below inflation pay increases. You are seriously misinformed.
@@tomtheeagle1 no I'm not! I take it you'rs one of them lot. I've worked in the service & I know that civil servants pay has been considerably higher then that of the private sector with similar roles. Then they get "flexi-time" & many work from home with little supervision. Remember they only work office hours, not like nurses. Many have half day friday perks. They constantly miss targets & standards because no one in government has the backbone to stand up to them. They close ranks against the public when they make mistakes & rarely answer the phone or reply to emails. Many won't even provide their surnames if you challenge them. So no, I have no sympathy for civil servants. We can survive with less civil servants, with the money saved going back to the hardworking & well qualified nurse's.
@@Human_Being__ well said sir. I noticed that too. They're basically lazybones. 👍
@@Human_Being__ That reads like a self appraisal or possibly projection. Not saying there aren't lazy and undeserving people in any profession or jobs. But civil servants are like all other employees who need to be motivated, well managed and rewarded fairly. Maybe you should be asking why they aren't motivated all the time rather than pitching generalized cliches and cheap shots.
@@tomtheeagle1 ok, why aren't they motivated to do the job they are contracted to do?
Pay rises are wonderful if your a politician filling your boots. Not to mention huge expenses and cash for questions. For anyone else they are not appropriate.
'Who was is scrapped by?'
'WHO WAS IT SCRAPPED BY?'
Yes. Quite.
Intransigence comes to mind, funny how MP’s always get incredibly good rises!
truely pitiful. but no worse than you would expect
independent pay review and in the same breath says we ignored it when it didn't suit us? JOG. ON. MATE.
How can a so called nurse defend this government
Cause she's been bought expect LADY next
Well she'd have to resign and lose her ministerial salary on top of the £84k she gets as an MP if she actually stood by her ex-colleagues! The worst kind of traitor is someone who betrays their friends.
Selling her soul comes to mind..
It boils down to simple logic.
If nurses are valuable, pay them properly.
If they are not, minimal service requirements shouldn't exist in their employment situation.
Argument closed.
It's percent. 15% of a barrister's salary is massive. 4% of nothing is still nothing!!
This government makes me physically sick and very, very angry.
MP's pay has gone up over the years, time for a CUT to put them on a level with everyone else...!
MPs should be cut to £9.50 per hour.
you realise how bad things are for the Tories, when you see Ferrari and TalkTV actually grilling them. The Tories are going to suffer their worst defeat in the next elections
The media are just clearing themselves they've been cheek by jowl with these *@%" for years, they're hoping you all forget so they can carry on manipulating you.
Hopefully permanent
Let's hope!
People in England will still vote for them.
Can’t understand why the tories aren’t made to say the “independent body review is not “independent
"We have accepted the independent review and are not going to offer something outside that"
"We have ignored the independent review in the past"
So you CAN ignore the results of the review and give nurses a better deal? These people are so thick.
Inflation has put prices up on most items. Most items are taxed. How much extra money in taxes has been made?
If you've ignored the "independent" pay revenue body before why don't you ignore them now as well? Bet everytime it was ignored was over MP's pay.
So many politicians are so “very clear” without being clear (or transparent) at all
The Tory spokesperson try-outs continue.
Bye, Bye, Bye. Job Centre down the road lady.....
The rank hypocrisy is staggering.
Blink.Blink.Blink.lie.blink.lie.blink.blink.lie. and repeat,good girl.
"if you're a criminal facing prosecution" like a great number of Tory MP's may be soon..............
Pay up !!
Taking advice from the Pay Review Body?
There are 133,000 Vacancies!!!!!!!
It's independent because the government doesn't always accept their recommendations? Does she think we're all stupid?
The Tories give the review body a spending envelope and if the Tories don't like what they are told, they ignore it. They can also make it look like they're being generous by giving the body different numbers and pretending they are increasing them.
Not accepting their recommendations = always less never more!
Yes they do think we are stupid.
I'm just thank for she was never a nursing colleague if mine!
Who is more important a barrister or a nurse?
'Earning while learning' is exactly what student nurses always did - until Tories decided they should effectively pay to work for the NHS. Not surprising that numbers collapsed and drop-out rates accelerated when student nurses realised what the deal was.
Love how they say the'independent pay review body.They are not independent ,they are appointed by the government and given parameters in which to work,independent my arse,as Jim Royle would say.
"We have to pay for it!"
No it's us the people who pay for it.
Track and trace and dodgy contracts wasn't how I wanted it spent.
Instead of MPs getting pay rises and reimbursements let's just clap for them.
is it time to stand up ?????
MPs have given themselves a pay rise that's over and above the kickbacks they get for supporting private interests.
The fact they're not even negotiating pay is disgusting..the pay review is hired BY THE GOVERNMENT
It’s not nurses if they go against the pay review decision for nurses all union workers will want the same deal and it sets a precedent
, just look at barristers already being used as a yard stick
@@TheJbsportstech oh no, if nurses get paid fairly everyone will want to get paid fairly too. What a terrible thing this would be.
@@jamiesmith3259 yeh apparently you have a child like understanding that’s not the issue the inflation and tax hikes that wipe it out are
@@jamesburge9145 sorry James, explain to me what part of people getting a pay increase that allows them to pay bills is childlike thinking on my part? Confusing when the people saying we just can't afford it are giving massive raises to themselves and barristers not to mention all the dodgy deals they're constantly involved in.
@@jamiesmith3259 because money doesn’t grow on trees. If they pay public sector more A taxes go up or B inflation and the pond and markets crash again
Caulfield a MP GOD HELP US
Criminal needs looking after then.
Australian nurses's starting wage - £44000
British nurses' starting wage - £27000
I qualify as an MH nurse in two months. Myself and half my Uni colleagues have already started applying for jobs down under. You're talking about earning nearly DOUBLE the amount.
Oh does Australia also have free healthcare?
@@TheJbsportstech Mostly, but not all. At nearly double the pay, who cares. I'm off (i'm a nurse btw).And a lot of my colleagues are too.
It's not low nurse wages that keep the NHS free. It's about prorities and values. If you don't value something, you're likely going to lose it.
@@TheAjrclark Aus has a charge for many service. You know the government can't win in these pay disputes don't you? If they give into to one sector 'nurses' for example then they will have to offer all unionised workers the same deal, a precedent will have been set. Then the government will have to increase tax somewhere to pay for it! If they don't we will see a repeat of the Liz Trust market crash, pound will crash and mortgage rates will have to go up etc, we saw what untaxed spending did with Liz Truss.
cost of living in Australia much higher than here, do your research.
@@TheJbsportstech Research is done! With inflation the way it i here, i'm better off in Austrlia. Yeah, things are more expensive. However, a mortage only amounts to 25% of my wages - instead of 60% here (or probz not at all- can't get a mortage). That's a huge difference, and offsets other costs. I have more disposable income. It actually gets me more stuff relative to the UK, albeit it stuff is more expensive.
You have to understand inflatioin is running at about 25% in some places in the UK. Things aren't as cheap as they were. We're the worst performing developed country in that context! Plus, nurses wages have been reduced in real terms over 14 years - whereas they haven't in Austrlia. Moreover, you can't get mortgage here either. I can in Oz though. So again, it is the best choice for me.
Her argument in the first clip compares patients to criminals! What a joke
Different week, different minister same old tired lines.
The barrister's pay rise is an uneven comparison.
a) there are less barristers to consider for a pay rise meaning its less output for the gov, rising pay 15% would be less than raising nurses wages by 5% if you consider the amount of workers involved in both industries.
b) barristers were on an indefinite strike meaning the situation to consider their pay was critical to ease the tension on court proceedings.
c) its a little callous to suggest that nurses "are more important" than barristers. They're two industries which need critical attention and the tories have made it their clear goal to do as little as humanly possible to support the NHS.
In the immortal words of Pvte Frazier - "We're doomed"
It's like watching a robot deny the truth.
ANSWER THE DAMN QUESTION, WE SHOULD ALL STOP PAYING TAX
Let's swap the "independent" pay review bodies between nurses and MPs. Lock the MPs into the restrictions imposed on the nursing review body.
That should settle their hash.
Imagine trying to argue that nurses don't deserve a pay rise of 15% but barristers do. What an absolute plum this one is. The tory party really is running out of numpties to deploy onto daytime TV. GE now!
Nurse? Sister Scourge, more like.
Of course there is no money left. They've given it all to their mates, billions of pounds accounted for.