Esee4 1095 and Esee4 S35VN with TKC EXTENDED Grips is one of my all time favorite work horse knives . MKC , Bark River , Esee , Benchmade Folders and Gerber 06 Auto are my personal favorite Companies / Knives . I've been using Esee the absolute longest . Father in law gave me Esee4 long time ago . For sure 10+ years. It used to be the only fixed blade knife I owned. Esee4 and Esee6 are absolute classics . I think too many people worry about 1095 when they should just be using the damn knife. I've never had an issue with 1095 using out in the field . 1095 was gold standard and still might be for certain applications. CPM changed everything lol . CPM MAGNACUT is what I've been using decent amount of and it's pretty legit . I've mainly been using it for hunting and it holds up extremely well .
Very cool. It looked like the S35 could've done one more cut which would've been double the 1095. Either way, it held it's edge much longer. It's a great upgrade for most users.
@@peterbiltknifeguy 1095 is a tougher steel, S35 has more edge retention. Everyone uses their knives different, so if you beat the snot out of your knives, then 1095 is a better choice. If you just cut stuff but don't put much hard use on it, then S35 is the way to go.
@@jshada11 that depends on what you're doing. Just normal cutting, it won't break or chip, but if you're prying or batoning something with lots of twisted grain and heavy knots, then maybe. If you do abusive tasks then the 1095 is a better choice, but if you're just cutting, or carving, s35 will hold an edge much longer than 1095. There are pro's and cons of both steels.
That was interesting and good to know that there's not that much difference. One test that I never see anyone do is how does that steal hold up in extreme cold weather. I was watching US troops training in Finland for winter survival and one guy was using a Esee 6. I don't know my knife metals but I have a feeling that the s35vn would be more brittle in Sub-Zero temperatures. Did you know Esee 4 & 6 come in clip point. I found out for the first time last week, and I found one seller here in Canada who had one in stock and ordered it. I think it's coming today. Looks like the clip point could be good for making fine shavings and the regular blade for feather sticks.
Thanks for doing these! 💯I do appreciate it! 👍 Still like the 1095! 👍 In comparison, How long to re-sharpen a decent edge on each of them now? 🤔 Do you really feel the s35 is twice the value of 1095?
I have noticed with different types of paper they will cut differently on which part of the paper you cut. In these types of tests I would use the longest side of the paper only. Of course though if you use a Buck it will cut both ends equally well.😁
I always thought s30 was a better steel than s35. I dont know why s35 became the popular one. Much better edge holding it seemed, but I have very small test pool. Maybe s30 vs s35 test?
@peterbiltknifeguy I apologize for the questions but if you don't mind me asking, whats your opinion on Amazon as far as purchasing knives from there? It seems that some trust it and some say not to.
Edge retention is nice to know but I don’t really find it matters to me. I personally prefer toughness over edge retention. I can always sharpen my knife back but when you get a chip then it becomes work. I haven’t had much experience with 3v but the 3 knives I’ve seen all had chips. Can’t say if this is factory overheating edge or it’s that brittle. That’s why I don’t like D2 very brittle. Why not try the Mtech against the 1095? If the Mtech is 440A that should still be better edge retention then 1095. Of course it could be 420 which would be softer but tough. I like my folders to be stainless but my fixed blades I like carbon steel. Toughness over edge retention anyday.
Chips in the edge will go away after a few sharpenings, to get to the good metal. Never judge a steel by the factory edge. That's the regular advice by long time testers. Belt generated heat and sub par edge angles out the box will leave you feeling cheated. D2 is a good steel at 60-61 rockwell. 1095 is NOT tough steel. Its a commin misconception by traditionalists who dont want to upgrade. Its just made thick and ran softer on the rockwell scale. Powder metallurgy steels always tougher version of their ingot steel counterparts. See knifesteelnerds toughness charts to see how low 1095 scores both in edge retention and toughness.
It like watching these edge retention vids! Thanks for doing them!
Glad you like them!
Great test! It is really helpful to see the difference in edge retention.
Thank you!
I think the idea of the ESEE 4 in S35VN for cutting tasks and the ESEE 6 in 1095 for tougher tasks like wood breakdown makes sense.
I'm liking these edge retention tests you're doing. Thanks brother, God bless
Thank you
Esee4 1095 and Esee4 S35VN with TKC EXTENDED Grips is one of my all time favorite work horse knives .
MKC , Bark River , Esee , Benchmade Folders and Gerber 06 Auto are my personal favorite Companies / Knives .
I've been using Esee the absolute longest . Father in law gave me Esee4 long time ago . For sure 10+ years. It used to be the only fixed blade knife I owned.
Esee4 and Esee6 are absolute classics .
I think too many people worry about 1095 when they should just be using the damn knife. I've never had an issue with 1095 using out in the field . 1095 was gold standard and still might be for certain applications. CPM changed everything lol . CPM MAGNACUT is what I've been using decent amount of and it's pretty legit . I've mainly been using it for hunting and it holds up extremely well .
Very cool. It looked like the S35 could've done one more cut which would've been double the 1095. Either way, it held it's edge much longer. It's a great upgrade for most users.
Yeah. It probably could. It maintains a working edge for a long time. The 1095 impressed me too
@@peterbiltknifeguy 1095 is a tougher steel, S35 has more edge retention. Everyone uses their knives different, so if you beat the snot out of your knives, then 1095 is a better choice. If you just cut stuff but don't put much hard use on it, then S35 is the way to go.
@timbo4374 will the s35 steal break if used alot? Or will the edge chip?
@@jshada11 that depends on what you're doing. Just normal cutting, it won't break or chip, but if you're prying or batoning something with lots of twisted grain and heavy knots, then maybe. If you do abusive tasks then the 1095 is a better choice, but if you're just cutting, or carving, s35 will hold an edge much longer than 1095. There are pro's and cons of both steels.
That was interesting and good to know that there's not that much difference. One test that I never see anyone do is how does that steal hold up in extreme cold weather. I was watching US troops training in Finland for winter survival and one guy was using a Esee 6. I don't know my knife metals but I have a feeling that the s35vn would be more brittle in Sub-Zero temperatures. Did you know Esee 4 & 6 come in clip point. I found out for the first time last week, and I found one seller here in Canada who had one in stock and ordered it. I think it's coming today. Looks like the clip point could be good for making fine shavings and the regular blade for feather sticks.
Pretty cool match up as either way just get ready to strop at different times....Nice presentation on the vid....Good stuff....
Thanks Scott. People seem to like these videos
@@peterbiltknifeguy What type of stainless steel holds the best and the same thing with the cabron/tool steel?
I love the Esee 4 in S35VN. I don't own an Esee 6 but im all about picking one up.
You really can’t go wrong with any esee products
Thanks for doing these! 💯I do appreciate it! 👍 Still like the 1095! 👍 In comparison, How long to re-sharpen a decent edge on each of them now? 🤔 Do you really feel the s35 is twice the value of 1095?
Honestly. It depends on the task of the knife. The 1095 actually did really good
I would recommend watching Cedric & Ada’s video on a pair of Esee 4’s in both steels.
That’s where I got the idea lol
It was close to double. I feel like I’d still want 1095 for a camp knife and s35 for edc.
Very much so. Honestly. The 1095 impressed the heck out of me.
I like both steels. Honestly I would feel good taking either out for a camping trip. 🔥🔪
The 1095 impressed me
I have noticed with different types of paper they will cut differently on which part of the paper you cut. In these types of tests I would use the longest side of the paper only. Of course though if you use a Buck it will cut both ends equally well.😁
Lol
Good tests wiit interesting results
Thank you!
I always thought s30 was a better steel than s35. I dont know why s35 became the popular one. Much better edge holding it seemed, but I have very small test pool. Maybe s30 vs s35 test?
Honestly they really do about the same in edge retention. But the s35 is a little tougher
I guess heat treat and geometry are huge factors as well, and I have a sample pool of a couple lol.
Im suprised at how well the 1095 did, also are those after market handle scales?
Yes. They are from the knife connection
@peterbiltknifeguy Thank you much! It's awsome that you actually get involved with your comments.
@@cornercat153 thank you. I try the best I can
@peterbiltknifeguy I apologize for the questions but if you don't mind me asking, whats your opinion on Amazon as far as purchasing knives from there? It seems that some trust it and some say not to.
@@cornercat153 i trust it. Most of my knives are ordered on Amazon.
Which one’s easier to get sharp again
With a diamond stone they are both just as easy
I'd say 1095 for sure but Esee 4 is smaller so sharpening does not take as long 😊
Blade treatment in edge geometry matters you need to identical blades of different materials for this to be a valid test in my not so humble opinion
@@adcaptandumvulgus4252 maybe when UA-cam pays more. But until then I’ll use whatever I can
Edge retention is nice to know but I don’t really find it matters to me. I personally prefer toughness over edge retention. I can always sharpen my knife back but when you get a chip then it becomes work.
I haven’t had much experience with 3v but the 3 knives I’ve seen all had chips. Can’t say if this is factory overheating edge or it’s that brittle. That’s why I don’t like D2 very brittle.
Why not try the Mtech against the 1095? If the Mtech is 440A that should still be better edge retention then 1095. Of course it could be 420 which would be softer but tough.
I like my folders to be stainless but my fixed blades I like carbon steel. Toughness over edge retention anyday.
Chips in the edge will go away after a few sharpenings, to get to the good metal. Never judge a steel by the factory edge. That's the regular advice by long time testers. Belt generated heat and sub par edge angles out the box will leave you feeling cheated. D2 is a good steel at 60-61 rockwell. 1095 is NOT tough steel. Its a commin misconception by traditionalists who dont want to upgrade. Its just made thick and ran softer on the rockwell scale. Powder metallurgy steels always tougher version of their ingot steel counterparts. See knifesteelnerds toughness charts to see how low 1095 scores both in edge retention and toughness.
Interesting experiment. They both lost that keen edge pretty fast. S35VN held up better for longer. Both still functional as knives.
Get more rope !
Yeah. They both did excellent. But the s35vn definitely kept a working edge longer
Very cool vid. But your not so great at cutting..
How so?
And that’s why you just resharpen the blade. Duh
@@seanhogan1556 wow. Earth shattering.