SLIP TEST - Honda CR-V Hybrid Real Time AWD vs Toyota Rav4 Hybrid AWD-i -
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- Опубліковано 10 лют 2025
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Honda CR-V 2.0 i-MMD Hybrid Real Time AWD (2019)
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Toyota RAV4 Hybrid AWD-i Electronic On-Demand All-Wheel-Drive System with intelligence (2019)
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Well, the AWD architecture of both cars is different. Even though Honda is a hybrid it still uses a "conventional" haldex-type diff in the back, Toyota on the other hand doesn't have any "hardware connection" from the front to the rear - it has an electric motor in the back, and although it's better than the last gen, it's still pretty lacking.
so is honda the winner in awd systems between the 2?
@@NiNjaTurtLe697 It's more like Honda does have an AWD system there, Toyota has what can only describe as an FWD+ system. It's not quite AWD, but also not FWD. This, of course, helps deliver an outstanding fuel economy tho, heard some owners managed to reach 50 MPG. That's a Prius territory! Completely unheard of in an SUV. So still, chapeau to Toyota, but please Improve this further.
@@reda-w4g honda doesnt have awd system? Look like the acura rlx sport hybrid shawd
@@yanpasmawi5964 reading is funduhmental
This is an interesting test. I like it. I was wandering which one I should get when I need to choose one out of the two. Now I know my choice!
In real conditions the difference isn't too big: ua-cam.com/video/q43fj4tPmDQ/v-deo.html
Excellent video thank you. However the only thing I care about with AWD is how it performs on snow and ice. A test on winter conditions would be more beneficial. 99% of people don't off-road and only need AWD for winter conditions.
Thanks! And actually this test simulates rather ice than offroad :-)
Guess I'm 1%
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I thought this test was good to show off road capabilities, am I wrong?
@@NiNjaTurtLe697 It depends what you mean by offroad. If only lack of grip like diagonal obstacles then yes, of course 🙂
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I mean off-road... like going through mud, rocks and holes. Nothing like rock climbing and too deep with water of course. like going carefully through something like this c8.alamy.com/comp/AS2841/english-countryside-the-ridgeway-national-trail-byway-at-waylands-AS2841.jpg
i was thinking that the roller test would help understand how something like the trail above would be handled.
Jak zawsze super test 👍
W tym przypadku crv wypada lepiej choć na ostatnim teście poległy obie:)
Thanks for not doing the trunk lift gate speed review and seat fold down comparison.
lol xD
I was a Toyota fan, but I've gotten a newer appreciation for Honda motors. It seems they build the best cars over all.
Can you explain that?! Because the rav4 and Honda here have very different awd systems with the hybrid
Bogus test
true words
@@Photologistic What's exactly bogus?
Kiedyś był wstyd dla Hondy, ale jest dużo lepiej. Teraz wstyd dla Toyoty. Gorzej jak kiedyś CR-V
W warunkach rzeczywistych poza asfaltem wynik w zasadzie taki sam: ua-cam.com/video/q43fj4tPmDQ/v-deo.html
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers w zasadzie ? Przecież ewidentnie w teście na filmiku honda nie pokonała przeszkody a rav4 tak...wniosek: testy syntetyczne na rolkach w zasadzie nic nie wnoszą :)
@@piwcio12345 Wkrótce będzie film pokazujący jak testy na rolkach mają się do realnych sytuacji.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers będę czekał z niecierpliwością :)
Let’s see a 4x4 Tacoma on the rollers
The first test on the Rav4, just the front roller is that the driver slam on the gas pedal vs. the CRV where he slowly pressed on the gas making the Rav4 seems to not utilizing its rear drive. LOL I have driven both of these SUV in the snow on there 2016 Model years and the CRV suck on snowy condition where the rear end feels unstable going down the road. Rav4 have none of that issues.
Watch again and see what exactly was Rav4 driver doing to make the system work. There was no such a need in CR-V.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers so 19 cr-v seems to have a better awd system/mechanism compared to 19 rav
@@NiNjaTurtLe697 CR-V hybrid has the same mechanism as petrol version, standard layout (power goes from front to rear via propeller shaft). Rav4 hybrid has separate electric motor on rear axle. I would rather call these systems different than better/worse.
so basically the trc on the toyota doesntt brake the wheels as they say it does, i believe it will be the same performance on the 2wd versions....
question though, sometimes the rollers aren't that good, i heard somewhere that rollers are so slippery that some traction control systems don't acknowledge them, so basically they don't react to them as they would react to actual ice or snow let alone any other surface with more grip than those...is that possible??
Well, there is just a few cars that have problems on two rollers. If the system is not reacting to difference in wheel speeds then it can't be good 🙂 It is like you had diagonal obstacle with two wheels in the air - that must be recognised by the system. Rollers are rather like black ice.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers but it doesn't have to be a diagonal test, i agree with the fact that the 4th gen rav4 awd is USELESS, but i've seen it spin it's wheels on snow and ice, as well as I've seen some hondas stuck with their front wheels on pure ice.... it's just weird but i wonder how is that possible when, as you say, rollers simulate ice and they should work just fine on them...the outlander phev for instance had the same problem...
@@pablomoreno1999 I think that PHEV is good example. Mitsubishi claims that they did major software update, 2020 doesn't have problems on rollers. So there must be some correlation. The problem of Outlander PHEV or Rav4 Hybrid was that these awd systems were working fine when grip under all wheels was similar. And they were getting stupid when grip was different.
Toyota failure at 3:05. Then CVT was about to let the engine blow with one wheel barely turning at 3:55.
Honda with no modes to enter is a better choice unlike Toyota but they both still performed poorly.
Both perform almost the same in real scenario: ua-cam.com/video/q43fj4tPmDQ/v-deo.html
duszaniespokojna - 4x4 tests on rollers dzięki za link do bardzo ciekawego porównania 👍
In real world test RAV4 hybrid was better! CRV got stuck
@@iannowakistheman not much if any. More 3WD than 4WD.
ua-cam.com/video/rWxzkY8_D3g/v-deo.html
@@iannowakistheman WHERE???
CR-Vの方が安心感あるし、スっと抜け出すなぁ。
RAV4のAWDはE-fourやったっけ？
リアはモーターやから、駆動力もっとあるかと思ったけど、意外やな
Why Toyota doesn't configure rear motor to draw more power?
For efficiency
@@carholic-sz3qv please explain?
When you are off road and stuck you don't need an efficiency, you need power. And this power could be easily taken from MG1 keeping the battery SOC unchanged.
@@ikusha84 Actually, it has enough power, but fails to correctly determine that it's time for wheels to spin
@@bumbeishvili that's exactly what i asked in the beginning, i know it has enough power but what's the reason for not using it properly? Inverter just need to be configured so that more power is drawn from the rear motor. At least there should be some kind of manual override function (snow/offroad mode for example) when we neglect an efficiency and want to utilize all power available.
@@ds5675 You must really learn a lot if you think that awd system is switching into 2wd when you floor it. Really a LOT. Besides there is no flooring in these tests, max is 30 km/h. Honda was given less throttle cause it was instantly moving forward. Rav4 was doing nothing unless you press accelerator pedal harder.
Nice! Please test the Ford Escape (Kuga) Hybrid AWD when you get a chance
This is where the real world tests make such a difference in purchase bias, the CRV seems to be the best for off-road in the roller tests, no brainer right? WRONG.
The Rav4 is as capable in off-road use as the CRV, and the Honda has an awful problem which is that the transmission overheats like crazy.
To be fair, if you want the better off roader between these 2, get the CRV, it'll help itself a little more, if you really want the styling of the new Rav4, but your off-road use is moderate to very often, get the gas only 4WD version, but if your use will be moderate to very occasional, then the Hybrid will be great.
Although, if you're really going to put a car like these through harsh conditions, i think it's better to get a different car, like a 4Runner or an X-Trail.
This is not about offroad but any slippage. That may be ice, snow or wheels in the air as the most challenging situation. The difference is in drivetrains - CR-V Hybrid powers rear wheels by conventional drive shaft while Rav4 Hybrid has separate, rather weak electric engine at the back.
Nice testing, looks very thorough but for us that we don't know as much as you, I would honestly and strongly suggest to make comments! You don't have to judge but let's say that.....if you want more subscribers you need to comment. Imagine Jeremy Clarkson not saying anything in his show! You and I would not even know him today! Think about it....
Thanks for suggestion, but for now there are no plans for making comments. There are also many opinions that it is great when there is no talking, just short video with pure content.
Different people, different opinions 🙂
Toyota rav4 💓💓💓💓💓🥰🥰🥰🥰💝💝
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@@OstRundfunk India likes rubbish cars?!
Worrywart It looks like) According to comment above 😊
Please do this test on LEXUS NX and RX!
ua-cam.com/video/wSwuwQRMQuo/v-deo.html
Honda is amazing
Toyota too
А можно тоже поучаствовать в таком тесте? Очень интересно
Of course but you must come to Poland 🙂
Honda dealer picked the one model where the CRV would stand a snowballs chance in hell. The hybrid have all electric RWD, they aren’t for off roading, duh. The gas AWD Toyota has great AWD system.
still good to know the difference in awd between 2 hybrid contenders
Chciałem kupić RAV4.. Kiepsko resoruje - to wiedziałem. Teraz doszło AWD do bani. Jak nie dadzą bardzo dobrej oferty, to chyba jednak będzie Subaru..
Na podstawie testu na rolkach nie można dokonać pełnej oceny systemu awd. Ten test pokazuje tylko, czy układ ma zdolności tzw. traction awd, nie mówi natomiast nic na temat zachowania dynamicznego (performance awd). Trzeba pojeździć trochę po zakrętach i porównać z 2WD :)
Polecam też porównanie poza asfaltem: ua-cam.com/video/q43fj4tPmDQ/v-deo.html
Subaru ma bardzo sprawne awd. Wiem bo sam posiadam. Prędzej coś urwiesz, albo porysujesz niż napęd wymięknie. Poza tym na mokrym, czy śniegu super. Jest jedno ale... odkąd nie ma wersji XT nie ma czym jechać, a Rav4 ciągnie dynamicznie (bez laga) i oszczędnie. Szkoda, że nie można połączyć tych aut.
@@krys8870 Zależy, czy mowa o awd z wersji hybrydowej czy benzyny, ta druga wygląda na całkiem sprawny układ. Szkoda, że nie ma u nas wersji z dwoma sprzęgłami na tylnej osi. Ciekaw też jestem, jak Subaru i Suzuki ogarną ten temat kiedy zaczną korzystać z technologii hybrydowej Toyoty...
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers układ awd faktycznie sprawny, tyle że benzyna, podobnie jak w Subaru, też nie jedzie. Mam nadzieję, że takie marki jak Suzuki, czy Subaru dopracują hybrydowe awd Toyoty do swojego dotychczasowego poziomu.
@@krys8870 W przyszłym roku ma być nowa Grand Vitara na bazie Rav4, więc może jednak da się połączyć bardzo dobry uklad hybrydowy z bardzo dobrym układem awd ;)
What's interesting, it looks on video that Rav4 Hybrid will just stuck everywhere and has 0 offroad capacity, but in real world when driving on snow I feel invincible, very good traction, clearance is the only limiter. That's in regular rather flat city condition with snow and ice, I bet on mountainous icy roads things may be different.I have 2020 Rav4 Hybrid exactly like tested and good winter tires
While driving on snow the grip is more or less similar for every wheel and then it's ok for this kind of awd system due to low friction cooficient. The problems come when grip varies a lot between the wheels and that may be too much to overcome. But that doesn't happen very often are barely ever during normal driving.
Does the "LeftFootBraking" trick work to get out of this 3 roll sticky situation?
I don't think so, handbrake doesn't help.
Toyota hybrids are best in business but their awd hybrid not at all and the fwd only versions are more capable.
I would like to see this test done on the same surface....
How would that change the result?
I can’t believe you are asking that question, especially when one floor surface has grooves. Nevertheless, the rav4 does leave a lot to be desired on other video comparisons of this test.
@@jio-lito It doesn't matter if there are grooves or not. Until tires on pavement do not slip (limit value of friction coefficient is not exceeded) - grip is the same on any surface.
Disappointed in Toyota!
Wait a minute................ there is no 2019 cr-v hybrid?!
Depends on market. In Europe it was new in 2019.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers I see. I called honda direct (from usa) and they said that the first ever made hybrid crv is going to be 2020 for any market. I will be VERY interested in the 2020 roller test!
I am seriously considering the 2020 hybrid crv awd
@@NiNjaTurtLe697 That's strange cause we have hybrid in Europe, the one from the test. Maybe they mean plug-in then it is clear.
@@4x4.tests.on.rollers she may not have known I suppose.
I have a Subaru which is great on the trail but I want to save more fuel while retaining a good bit of the trail capabilities and it looks like the CR-V is the way to go. Do you think?
Poor comparison considering theyre not tested under the same operating conditions. Lots of things could play a role such as temperature, battery charge, tire pressure, drivers, etc.
Both cars fully charged (if we can say about charge in CR-V). Tire pressure - correct for both cars (no alarms from prrssure sensors). Drivers - all they have to do is keep accelerator pedal pressed and wait. Temperature - how can 5-7 Celsius degree make a difference in this particular test?
Toyota awd is not a real quality system it not only activities to late itdoesnt control aswell as the honda on moose testing, honda is much better in this area.
Wiec Honda jest lepsza :)
To są zupełnie inne napędy hybrydowe. Toyota ma osobny silnik elektryczny na tylnej osi, natomiast tylne koła w Hondzie napędzane są w "klasyczny" sposób - poprzez wał napędowy.
CR-V wins
in hondas world it is vsa not esp
Just a different name.
O CRV Honda esta numa inclinação para baixo e o rv4 estar numa inclinação para cima
Wow the rav4 sucks.
T Sizzle - Especially in tests from honda dealers who floor the engine...
@@Photologistic What tests of Honda dealers?
OMG Toyota, CRV sucked less. Heads will fly!
...still sucked.
Both of these cars are inexcusably terrible.
a tu Honda zjechała ze wszystkich ua-cam.com/video/1OxZvPhpZUk/v-deo.html
Inny rozstaw rolek, koła mniej się zapadają.
This is a bias test made my Honda. LOL....Every times the drive get into the Rav4 he always tend to floor the gas on the Rav4 making it seem no gripping from the rear. BS!!
Nope, test is not made by Honda but by our channel. And if you watch the video with eyes wide open you will see that Rav4 driver had to use different levels of acceleration to make the system work. Besides - in any other fwd based awd system more acceleration means more torque to the rear. Not the opposite.