Looking at the Cessna CJ4 following the Aircraft and Avionics update in Microsoft Flight Simulator

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  • Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
  • A first look at the CJ4 following the aircraft and avionics update to Microsoft Flight Simulator that arrived yesterday. Some nice graphical upgrades to the various screens throughout the aircraft, but underneath it's still very much the same aircraft as before. We take it for a quick flight around Stansted, and try out some of the autopilot functionality along the way.
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  • @DEFkon001
    @DEFkon001 Рік тому +25

    I have to admit that the CJ4 is a favorite for casual IFR flying.
    I highly recommend that General Aviation Simmers that are looking to transition to the airliners start with this jet. The lack of the auto throttle, APU, and complicated overhead panel let students focus more on learning the FMC and getting used to the non-garmin interfaces that they'll commonly find on Boeing and Airbus.. In fact it's very similar to the avionics that are found on the CRJ series of airliners.

    • @after_midnight9592
      @after_midnight9592 Рік тому +6

      True, it's a perfect starter jet. Very simple to start and fly. My go-to plane when I don't feel like doing the whole airline procedure.

    • @DontHateItsBased
      @DontHateItsBased 9 місяців тому +1

      Absolutely, I’m using it to get comfortable before transitioning to the CRJ-700.

    • @dmor6696
      @dmor6696 9 місяців тому

      True, this is my first jet

  • @Texas1FlyBoy
    @Texas1FlyBoy Рік тому +5

    This is the BEST introduction to the CJ4 flight plan and autopilot that I've found so far. It has really improved my piloting of this aircraft. Thanks!

  • @baardk2
    @baardk2 6 місяців тому +3

    I almost forget to play the game myself when I see this videos. Great work! Greatings from Norway 🙂

  • @IanBevington
    @IanBevington Рік тому +2

    I must say, as someone new to this, this video is really helpful, thanks, it's really helped me out.

  • @Cherry3z
    @Cherry3z Рік тому +17

    Couple operational notes, if you care for realism. You wouldn't turn the pitot heat on until shortly before takeoff. Also, avionics don't typically get turned on until after engine start (concerns about voltage spikes).
    Engine starts would always be one at a time.
    Lastly, the "terrain" mode is showing terrain relative to your current altitude, not so much a depiction of the terrain as a relief map would. That's why, when you're on the ground, it's showing as all red..... It's all a "threat" currently.
    Of course, being a sim all of these things were just fine but, you seem like someone who enjoys/appreciates the realism of MSFS, so thought I'd give some tips. :)
    Great video though! Walked everyone through the new options on the Proline very well.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +3

      I'll do a more correct video at some point - quite often I go "off the checklist" to show functional bits and pieces. Like you say though - there is always going go be an audience for doing things by the book :)

    • @oldRighty1
      @oldRighty1 3 місяці тому

      I saw somewhere else you press the engine start button, wait to 20% N2, then run. Then do the other engine. Didn't even know you could press run first then the start button..

    • @Cherry3z
      @Cherry3z 3 місяці тому

      @@oldRighty1 I'm not sure exactly the specific N2 for that engine. For the Hawker I fly, it's minimum 12% before introducing fuel. But yes, there's a minimum to make sure you have enough airflow through the engine, before introducing fuel.

  • @lukenagington9397
    @lukenagington9397 Рік тому +3

    Fantastic video, thank you! Having recently got back into Simming, I chose the CJ4 as my chosen aircraft without knowing it had been updated. Refreshing my brain and learning with YT vids. Yours has been by far the best!

  • @LuckyInLondon
    @LuckyInLondon Рік тому +2

    Thanks as always for your tutorials Jonathan. Best "non-pilot" pilot on UA-cam! I just deleted about a dozen Working Title tuts from over the past 2 years, many which were yours. Cheers!

  • @Ahmadfrra
    @Ahmadfrra Місяць тому

    This is the best CJ4 tutorial video on UA-cam. Thank you 😊

  • @thecorporatepilotdad
    @thecorporatepilotdad Рік тому +5

    Just watched the video. For future flights, the pitot heat can come on when cleared for takeoff when crossing the hold short line (2 min limitation on the ground), do not start both engines at once, and the flight director should NOT be in VS for takeoff, instead, try PITCH mode by pressing VS until PITCH is displayed.

  • @eeedawg1019
    @eeedawg1019 Рік тому +6

    Whew that was quite the crosswind! I really love the CJ4 and after this overhaul it’s simply stunning.

  • @yams900
    @yams900 Рік тому +6

    It’s great Jon ! I flew YSSY (Sydney) to YBBN (Brisbane) and I really enjoyed it, lots of new stuff !

  • @stonedmountainunicorn9532
    @stonedmountainunicorn9532 9 місяців тому +1

    By far the best explanation for this auto pilot, showed it all in a very simple way.
    New sub right here

  • @thomasbriscoe120
    @thomasbriscoe120 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the video! Did not realize that there was and update and I kept looking for the CDI to switch to FMS mode after enabling the autopilot.

  • @pdep
    @pdep 5 місяців тому +1

    Superb instruction and presentation - as always. I could almost put the same comment on a rubber stamp for all your videos. 😊

  • @jaylee6830
    @jaylee6830 Рік тому +5

    I like using FLC initially on climb out to avoid over speed. It will hold the proper speed well. Also engaging YD. Great video

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      It really depends on the SID (if you're flying one) :)

    • @thecorporatepilotdad
      @thecorporatepilotdad Рік тому +3

      @@jonbeckett FLC should not be used on takeoff. FLC is nothing more than speed hold via the command bars controlling pitch. If the airplane is flying at 100 knots but FLC is set to 240, the FD will have the airplane fly level until 200 knots is reached. Pitch or TO for takeoff is the more correct way to do it. Adjust power to prevent an overspeed while still maintaining a sufficient rate of climb regardless of doing a SID or not.

  • @stephenjones8928
    @stephenjones8928 Рік тому +1

    Great video clearly exposing and explaining the ton of improvements with this AAU1 update for the CJ4. Many thanks. You must be a teacher.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +2

      Not a teacher, but I have been told by many people that I should have been :)

  • @MouldyGuitars
    @MouldyGuitars 8 місяців тому

    Thanks Jonathan. This got me going in the CJ4 (after mainly using the Longditude). Found its a good half way house into the FMC and was easier to setup than the bigger airliners. I only needed to get the flight plan in and that was enough to get me in the air. Once you understand the throttle/climb rate thing (much like the TBM930) its very straight forward. Even the VNAV worked well and displays the time to TOD.

  • @danmoretti8898
    @danmoretti8898 Рік тому +23

    Just a head's up that, at least on the real craft, you don't wanna turn on the pitot tubes until takeoff minus ~~5~~ 2 minutes, or else the things will literally burn themselves up.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +4

      Good to know :)

    • @thecorporatepilotdad
      @thecorporatepilotdad Рік тому +5

      Did that change? The CJ4 Revision 5 checklist says 2 minutes. Every Citation I've flown in real life had a 2 minute limitation on pitot heat use on the ground.

    • @danmoretti8898
      @danmoretti8898 Рік тому +1

      @@thecorporatepilotdad no, I'm sure that was my fault for the inaccuracy - thanks for clearing it up! Either the person I heard it from (the Working Title folks) got it wrong, or I simply misremembered.

    • @kokoeteantigha389
      @kokoeteantigha389 Рік тому

      Wow! That's nice to know.

  • @donridgeway2267
    @donridgeway2267 Рік тому +2

    Another great vid Jonathan, covered pretty much everything that changed, thanks.

  • @StevieMoto
    @StevieMoto Рік тому +2

    I had just started learning this aircraft this week since buying the sim last month. This video and update came at the perfect time 😊

  • @johnm82
    @johnm82 Рік тому

    I've been playing around with the CJ4 a bit and loved your video. Thank you for making it and giving such a clear and concise guide to using the autopilot!

  • @StevePrentice
    @StevePrentice Рік тому +1

    Thank you, Jonathan. This is a great run-through.

  • @scootermason2746
    @scootermason2746 Рік тому +9

    I hope Working Title adds their features back in. Like cabin announcements and their pages in the CDU

  • @TWOKDOK1
    @TWOKDOK1 Рік тому +2

    Excellent, clear presentation skills Jonathan. Very new XBOX / fs2020 user and just about to transition to PC to exploit the add-on / gizmo envelope - wish me luck !

  • @AidenHilton981
    @AidenHilton981 Рік тому +1

    Appreciate the video. Was having some difficulties adjusting to the new stuff when I was so used to the old FMS and flight displays but this video really helped

  • @jonasn945
    @jonasn945 Рік тому +1

    I´m generally disturbed by the flightsim-producers who now has taken away the conventional way of selecting a ILS/VOR/NDB approach!
    At the same time I find your video very helpful and pedagogical.
    This was a nice ride!

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      They're just making it more realistic. The world map screen was probably a mistake, all things considered :)

  • @Aeronotti
    @Aeronotti Рік тому +3

    Just messed around with the cj4 last night…I didn’t know this update existed so boy was I in for a shock lol. Took me over an hour to move out of the spot 😅. One note, the FMC WILL give you your Vspeeds if you load your flight plan (with a SID) in the open world before you get in the plane

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +2

      It will also do it if you program the FMC properly, and not just follow your nose like I did :)

  • @Sharky_On_The_Road
    @Sharky_On_The_Road 7 місяців тому

    One of my favorite planes to fly in the sim.

  • @brunogt1982
    @brunogt1982 Рік тому +1

    Fantastic work by working title 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

  • @GumperVanLier
    @GumperVanLier Рік тому +2

    Skillful landing with the wind. This was, by far, the best aircraft early on. The mod by Working Title transformed this plane like the recent 152 mod. I noticed that features have been lost but maybe they'll keep updating it. The VNAV is really fun to watch on this jet. It worked so well before and was the only plane that did it. I haven't flown it in a long time. I hope you can install a flight plan from the world map / LNM like before. I don't like programming it like you do. Great video. Thank you.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I will admit to kind of hating VNAV. I know a lot of poeple love to program planes to fly every aspect of the route automatically, but that almost never happens in the real world. Where's the fun in it ? :)

    • @GumperVanLier
      @GumperVanLier Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett I get that but I find watching the plane fly with VNAV to be fun. I was rusty Flying it a little tonight. I can't get the menus to work right. Can't access the submenus. I also couldn't do a cold start and it's so easy with this jet. I must have a conflict somewhere.

    • @GumperVanLier
      @GumperVanLier Рік тому

      Oh, my goodness; I did have the CJ4 mod in my community folder. No wonder why.

    • @Cherry3z
      @Cherry3z Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett I dunno, I fly a Hawker 900xp with Proline21 (same avionics as the CJ4 here) and I'm pretty lazy and love using VNAV (real world), haha.
      More correctly though, we get crossing restrictions or "Descend Via" clearances on an arrival all the time. I can't imagine flying those without VNAV.

  • @dillank3240
    @dillank3240 11 місяців тому +1

    Very useful video! I had no idea how to use the FMC. I usually fly the Honda Jet for this particular niche. It has more familiar Garmin avionics--more familiar to a GA guy.

  • @kennethjrgensen2087
    @kennethjrgensen2087 Рік тому +4

    You also need to select the dep runway, before the V speeds comes up and can be send to the pfd
    Love yours video's

  • @KirkRoyster
    @KirkRoyster День тому

    I expect this video will get renewed attention as folks like me start to refresh on Proline 21 in anticipation of the Challenger 3500 by FlightFX on MSFS in a few months (Proline 21 Advanced). Beyond the other comments below, one thing I will look at on the checklist is turning off YD on short final before landing. It didn't seem to hinder you that YD was still activated after landing, a little surprising. Regardless, this was what I needed as the refresher from the XPlane Hot Start Challenger 650 days.
    Thank You

  • @Surfingnet
    @Surfingnet Рік тому +1

    Thanks to you I discovered there's a way to turn Off the AP without using the AP/YD Disconnect bar. I've been (hardly) landing the CJ4 since my first flight because I never had the yaw damper On after disconnecting it with the AP through the bar.......

  • @thedude2242
    @thedude2242 Рік тому +1

    Marvelous Mate, thx for that vid!

  • @ironknobair
    @ironknobair Рік тому +1

    This Aircraft is the Bees Knees. Fantastic.

  • @simonforrister3820
    @simonforrister3820 Рік тому +4

    Your tutorial videos are very clear and easy to follow, thanks Jonathan. Could you do one for the Longitude aswell? Would be good if they integrated Simbrief too.

  • @Byeohazard
    @Byeohazard Рік тому +2

    I uninstalled the WT mod from Sep 2022 and let MSFS do the update. I no longer have my route shown on the vfr map. I guess this means no more easy squeezy quick n dirty load flight plan from game world map functionality? No more VFR map route? I'm hearing no more Navigraph for those that use it? I'm not sure if I will stick with this at this point. I'm sure I just dont have a grasp of it all and it's probably wonderful, however the mod worked pretty well.

  • @hiortintexasracing
    @hiortintexasracing Рік тому +1

    Great video as usual. You did not cover RNAV but it's working. One difference is that the suggested decent rate was previously visible in the upper half of the right display. Now you simply look at the agenda circle in the MFS decent rate area.

  • @The-Painter
    @The-Painter Рік тому +1

    great info as usual thanks Jon

  • @brianbooser2170
    @brianbooser2170 Рік тому +1

    You can send your v speeds to the PFD. You need to select a DEP and ARR and execute it. Then go to perf page and fill in the info to the right, exec and then next. Send

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Yep - I only really scratched the surface of the functionality in this video - lots more to it than I could fit in during a short flight :)

  • @ellonysman
    @ellonysman Рік тому

    My head aches! Youare a radio nav genius sir

  • @WarPuppy
    @WarPuppy Рік тому +1

    My favorite plane just got better

  • @stefaandk
    @stefaandk Рік тому +1

    Haven't flown the CJ4 in ages as I'm stuck on xbox atm and the original systems depth made the plane not particularly enjoyable to fly. Used to enjoy the WT mod on PC so very happy I can get back into a proper CJ4 experience albeit on xbox until I get a new PC. Was pretty rusty in remembering the procedures so this was a great refresher, thanks for that! Would love to see you cover the citation at one stage, never ever bothered with that one at all for similar reasons but it seems that's gone next level as well now.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      Yes - I've stayed away from the Longitude too. I'll have to take a look at it :)

    • @Spudsmachenzie1
      @Spudsmachenzie1 Рік тому +1

      AAU1 has been out on Xbox beta for a month now. I’ve been flying the CJ4 and Longitude almost exclusively for sometime now. Both are amazing. If youre on Xbox I definitely recommend getting into the betas

    • @stefaandk
      @stefaandk Рік тому +1

      @@Spudsmachenzie1 Yeah I thought about doing that, always worry about stability as msfs is flaky enough as it is on xbox, even with this patch I'm still getting the avionics go black upon approaching certain addon airports not to mention CTD's but I guess you could argue that as both a bad or good reason to get into the beta. I don't think the xbox really has enough ram to handle things at times, it's good for GA stuff which is still fun admittedly, certainly can't take the A310 for any flights above 2 hours, hopefully the CJ4 will be somewhat less demanding, hard to say. Once I get a good price for my kidney I'll get that 4090 PC :-)

  • @stephenjones8928
    @stephenjones8928 Рік тому +1

    @20:42. Multitasking, the way many people see it, is a pipe-dream.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I'm TERRIBLE at multi-tasking.

    • @stephenjones8928
      @stephenjones8928 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett I remember seeing an editorial cartoon drawing of a guy sitting on an office chair surrounded by three desks, each of which had a PC set up on them. The caption read, "True Multitasking: three computers and a chair with wheels." This was back in the 386 days. I believe that this still applies largely to humans as none of us have multi-cores.

  • @MattMorris481
    @MattMorris481 Рік тому +1

    Just a little help how you start this aircraft in the real world, you leave the avionics Pitot heat off and only start 1 engine at a time the more battery draw you have the hotter the start but I’m sure it doesn’t model hot starts. Great Video👍🏼

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      Yep - not all aircraft in the simulator are modelled that well.

  • @DOGOID
    @DOGOID Рік тому +1

    Be great if in MSFS MP you can have someone as passenger or 2nd officer.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      You can. There is an add-on that synchronises two simulators, so you can act as pilot and co-pilot. I can't remember it's name though :) It's on flightsim.to.

  • @VoyaPilot
    @VoyaPilot Рік тому +1

    I flew it and i have to say i'll stay with Working Title.
    With AAU1 the approach is a bit strange the AP doesn't do what it's supposed to do. Even for the direct sometimes he switches to the next one
    Also the flight model of the working title is 10 times better

  • @MrNumbazs
    @MrNumbazs Рік тому +1

    I had a time trying to get my Vspeeds calculated, but I found in the performance menu in the FMC. I believe you have to disable Inhibit VNAV.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I rarely mess around with VNAV - I know it's all clever, and a wonder to behold - watching a plane follow the flight profile for you - but I like to have something to do during the flight :)

  • @ironknobair
    @ironknobair 2 місяці тому

    Just thought I would fly the cj4 haven't flown for a while and just because lots of simmers follow you maybe you know the answer to my dilemma. The engines start but no avionics display and the throttle does not move.

  • @MisterEpsilon
    @MisterEpsilon Рік тому +1

    I just started playing a few weeks ago, and noticed today the "toggle seat belts light" is mislabeled as "blets" lol

  • @845SiM
    @845SiM Рік тому +1

    Actually a really nice looking jet this. Might reinstall it and give it a go.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I like it :)

    • @845SiM
      @845SiM Рік тому

      Reinstalled and got the WT upgrade, really nice, thanks for the video

  • @rainerklose2900
    @rainerklose2900 10 місяців тому +1

    Danke!

  • @mariuszk2639
    @mariuszk2639 Рік тому +1

    Well yes, all cool and pretty...:) And your opinion on the non-display of Charts? I miss them in CJ4 system as well as integration with SimBrief....

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I'm guessing it was part of the Working Title Mod.

  • @Spudsmachenzie1
    @Spudsmachenzie1 Рік тому +1

    Love the plane so much and the AAU is amazing. But why are the yokes so darn large in the sim CJ4. Unrealistic. Drives me crazy! And yes I know you can hide them, but I like seeing my yoke input.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      They are that big in real ife :)

    • @Spudsmachenzie1
      @Spudsmachenzie1 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett really? Looking at some pics now. They are too wide From what I can tell. They take up half the screen! :)
      0:47 in the video shows what I mean

  • @nmflyerrobbin5413
    @nmflyerrobbin5413 Рік тому +1

    way cool

  • @yams900
    @yams900 Рік тому +1

    I really like CJ4, always been my favourite…now even better ! Do you have plans for revisiting Longitude and TBM930 ? I just jumped into Longitude 🛩 hope there’s checklists in the updated version.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I need to go look at the Longitude - I've never really flown it!

    • @yams900
      @yams900 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised. With the new AAU1, it’s getting quite complex. I must have done something wrong, because Longitude wouldn’t move ! No chocks of course. Didn’t want to waste time, took CJ4 which works great

  • @and696
    @and696 Рік тому +1

    Hi !! Just love this CJ4: I used to fly with it long time using the MOD. Just a curiosity, how to change from LBS to KG in the perf int page ??

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Is it not in the PFD menu? (under config, perhaps?)

  • @seanpinnell4806
    @seanpinnell4806 Рік тому +1

    Great videos per usual. May I ask what peripherals you're using? Honeycomb, etc? Also does CJ4 have auto throttle?

    • @DEFkon001
      @DEFkon001 Рік тому

      No Auto Throttle in the CJ4.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I have the Thrustmaster Airbus stick and throttle quadrant.

  • @yourdonefor4454
    @yourdonefor4454 Рік тому

    I swear they broke the autopilot altitude selection. I select an altitude and the plane doesn't climb to it. Before the update it worked.

  • @tonyciarletta4740
    @tonyciarletta4740 Рік тому +1

    Great tutorial. Have an issue though when i am I try to set course by selecting NAV as instructed I can't get into radio mode LOC1 it keeps going to VOR1. Any help greatly appreciated ta Tony

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I think (without looking) it may be LOC appears if you're turning to an ILS. LOC and VOR are functionally equivalent in terms of navigation.

    • @tonyciarletta4740
      @tonyciarletta4740 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett great thanks sir. Just confused me as when I was static on the ramp. I can never get LOC after pressing NAV just VOR .... Whereas video you tuned into LOC.

  • @JordanHerrera
    @JordanHerrera Рік тому

    Forgive my stupidity! Why do I seem to always land ILS approaches without setting the course ?

  • @Slovakianstallion
    @Slovakianstallion 7 місяців тому

    So I've been struggling with this for over an hour and still can't figure it out. Changing the altimeter units. I can change them on the PFD via the PFD menu, but they stay imperial on the FMS, so I can't enter QNH in hPa for takeoff PERF. The settings where this should be (IDX -> Settings) do not include altimeter units, I only have ground power, cabin lights, and simbrief ID. Does anyone know how to change the units on the FMS?

  • @sergiofachinetti4882
    @sergiofachinetti4882 Рік тому +1

    Jolly good and clear tutorial,thanks. Just a question, the WT mod allowed to import the flight plans from simbrief, is it still possible?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I don't think so in the built-in version - because MSFS can't integrate with specific partners. Although saying that, I think the A310 does. It may be that Simbrief have to agree to it (or get paid) to allow it.

    • @sergiofachinetti4882
      @sergiofachinetti4882 Рік тому

      Okay thanks by now

  • @davisebbert4835
    @davisebbert4835 Рік тому +1

    Anyone else not able to click the "BARO" knob to switch to STD Baro pressure anymore? All other knobs work normally for me...

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +2

      That's been wonky for ages. If in doubt, press B.

  • @AidenHilton981
    @AidenHilton981 Рік тому +1

    Also I don't know if this is a problem with the simulator but whenever I try to do an IFR, it's never an option on the pre made requests on the ATC panel. It only works when I set up the whole flight on the world map as "low altitude airway" and "high altitude airway" (also I'm on the Xbox version)

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Yes. That's the way the built-in ATC works. You have to pre-file in the world map.

  • @DavidWadleigh
    @DavidWadleigh Рік тому

    Nice video Jonathan, thanks. Did my first flight in this new version of the CRJ...and boy did the plane bounce like a beach ball on landing. Going to play with it more to see if I just Failed. BTW, do you know how to turn of/off the display showing airports? Can't find it in the menus anymore...

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      I'll have a look later - I was wondering the same myself.

  • @mikevadnais7722
    @mikevadnais7722 Рік тому

    Quick Question Jonathan. With over 500 hours now on the Kodiak 100, I am looking now to advance myself to corporate jet. Having never flown one in MSFS, I see I have a couple options. This Cessna CJ4 you are showing here, or the Citation Longitude. In your opinion, which one do you believe would be a better choice for someone who has never touched a jet. I would like to get into the one that has the most real options available and working. I understand Working Title has done a lot of the Avionics for both aircraft. I want to pick one and stick with it for learning purposes. Thanks for your great videos. Mike

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I prefer the CJ4 - but only really because I have more time in it. They are both good fun.

  • @jay-rus4437
    @jay-rus4437 Рік тому +1

    How do you like the cj4 compared to the h-jet in msfs

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  11 місяців тому

      I like both of them :)

  • @kokoeteantigha389
    @kokoeteantigha389 Рік тому +1

    Are there things to remove from the Community folder before doing this update? I've heard any CJ4 mod should be removed. Please confirm.
    And thanks Jon for the effort. Very much appreciated.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      Yes - remove the working title mod if you have it. Also, remove it from the marketplace too.

    • @hiortintexasracing
      @hiortintexasracing Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett so why would we do this ? Is the WT mod not valid anymore ?

    • @kokoeteantigha389
      @kokoeteantigha389 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett Whoa! Whoa!! Whoa!! Just noticing this! What am I taking out from the Marketplace, please?? Didn't think it had anything to do with the Marketplace!!!

  • @Dagrond
    @Dagrond Рік тому +1

    So does this mean I can remove my working title mod that fixed all this stuff already? If so, put those boys and girls on the TBM - would love to have a fixed version of that too. Such a dumpster fire.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I think 3rd party aircraft still require the add-on.

  • @brunogt1982
    @brunogt1982 Рік тому +1

    Can you do the TBM930 please 👌🏽

  • @livingmodern
    @livingmodern Рік тому +1

    if I do a direct because there are no mid points or legs to add ...the AP nav doesn't seem to want to take me direct?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      You've probably got a big discontinuity in the middle of the flightplan if you haven't configured anything.

  • @rackum44
    @rackum44 Рік тому +1

    I don't fly this plane because I don't know how to use that FMS. I'm only familiar with the NXI and GA avionics

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Time to learn then :)

    • @rackum44
      @rackum44 Рік тому +1

      @@jonbeckett Right. Just not as straight forward as gps

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      @@rackum44 It's a great stepping stone towards the big jets though.

    • @rackum44
      @rackum44 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett Yes I agree It's not that I don't want to It's just kind of intimidating

    • @rackum44
      @rackum44 Рік тому

      Also there isn't any videos on UA-cam that walk you through the FMS at all.. I looked.

  • @agenttex
    @agenttex Рік тому

    I was waiting for the point in your video where second notch of flaps are applied…. My experience with the flight model changes - aircraft pitches up and subsequent airspeed are extreme. Couldn’t possibly know real world aircraft handling but (as a real pilot) can’t imagine that much push on the yoke to maintain consistent rate of descent.
    AP handles it but manual flying - doesn’t seem right to me.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      It will depend on your speed. Lots of people seem to think planes should fly on rails - they don't :)

  • @MrScottgp
    @MrScottgp Рік тому +1

    Wish it had auto throttle I never know what speed to be at

  • @kokoeteantigha389
    @kokoeteantigha389 Рік тому +1

    Mine doesn't let me stroll through the cabin like you just did. How did you manage that?

  • @thedocnak
    @thedocnak Рік тому +1

    also, curious... does the update make the CJ4 working title mod irrelevant?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Kind of. The version in the sim has some of the integration removed (simbrief, navigraph)

    • @thedocnak
      @thedocnak Рік тому +1

      @jonbeckett thanks for the reply Jon! Nice work on the vid =)

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      @@thedocnak you're welcome :)

  • @thedocnak
    @thedocnak Рік тому +1

    how you move through the aircraft like that...???

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      With the keyboard and mouse :)

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Actually - the opening shot - I used the drone camera, slowed down.

  • @845SiM
    @845SiM Рік тому +1

    Is this base plane the one available in the standard game or the deluxe edition?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      The CJ4 is included with the standard edition.

  • @donridgeway2267
    @donridgeway2267 Рік тому +1

    I accidently deleted mine recently, anyone know how i can get it back. It's still in the Content manager but wont loan/appear in the aircraft list

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Can you not install it from the content manager ?

    • @donridgeway2267
      @donridgeway2267 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett No mate, it shows in the Content Manager list as installed, if I click on it, it wants to delete it. Got me stumped

  • @cptrobby5700
    @cptrobby5700 Рік тому +1

    No more simbrief integration?

    • @mr.futurestrader2115
      @mr.futurestrader2115 Рік тому

      Wondering the same

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      I doubt it in the stock version - I know the add-on is still needed for 3rd party aircraft - I foresee some experimentation ahead :)

    • @aceairstream
      @aceairstream Рік тому

      Looks like no Simbrief in the new Avionics update version, so I have reinstated the latest Working Title Mod- we shall see if that works or just screws things up…

  • @karmabasedj8184
    @karmabasedj8184 Рік тому

    Are you using fsrealistic pro for your camera movements?

  • @mrmisterno1
    @mrmisterno1 Рік тому

    Why are there barely any reflections on the displays in MSFS? They look really artificial compared to real life.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Because the developer didn't implement shaders to do that in the 3D model.

  • @aviacionoscar3031
    @aviacionoscar3031 Рік тому +1

    Is that the working title mod ?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      At the moment this is the stock CJ4 - it got upgraded with the latest sim update.

  • @VoyaPilot
    @VoyaPilot Рік тому +1

    How do you update it ?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      MSFS automatically has the update.

    • @VoyaPilot
      @VoyaPilot Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett thank you. It was actually not working because I still had the working title

  • @jayrermars8493
    @jayrermars8493 8 місяців тому

    Doesn't seem the TCAS works?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  8 місяців тому +1

      TCAS doesn't work in lots of aircraft in the simulator. It's a real mixed bag - some see AI aircraft, some see multiplayer, some see both.

    • @jayrermars8493
      @jayrermars8493 8 місяців тому

      @@jonbeckett Ok thanks for your rreply...I thought I had done something wrong. Another great video by the way.

  • @biansanity
    @biansanity Рік тому +1

    is this using working title mod?

    • @mr.futurestrader2115
      @mr.futurestrader2115 Рік тому +1

      In the patch notes they said to delete those mods as it’s now built into the simulator

    • @biansanity
      @biansanity Рік тому

      @@mr.futurestrader2115 oh I see but it still lacks some features like linked with simbrief and checklist in mfd but overall its a good update. I hope working title continuing their project with CJ4 in the future tho

    • @after_midnight9592
      @after_midnight9592 Рік тому

      @@biansanity yeah, they had to take those out, some licencing bureaucracy thing between MS and Navigraph.

  • @joelmulder
    @joelmulder Рік тому

    Is it just me or does it seem to have less features than the mod?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      I imagine it's a licensing issue. Knowing Navigraph/Simbrief, they didn't agree to allow it in the store (or Microsoft weren't happy with it for some reason).

    • @joelmulder
      @joelmulder Рік тому +1

      @@jonbeckett Interesting.
      If that’s the case, seems like a bit of a backwards decision on the part of Simbrief and Navigraph, especially since you’d need a subscription anyways to use Navigraph.
      Besides the navigraph/simbrief integration, a lot of other stuff is missing too from the mod, like the cabin announcements and a bunch of other buttons.
      It’s a shame the mod has been deprecated.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      @@joelmulder We'll never know the real reason :)

  • @BurnleyNuts
    @BurnleyNuts Рік тому +3

    I've loved learning this aircraft in recent months and I really do like that you can pull up all Navigraph charts on the lower display using the Chart button once you have linked to Navigraph on the FMC in mod set. It's especially good for taxiing in my view if you don't know the airport layout. This is a great aircraft to start to learn a lot of the big jet stuff.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +2

      I'll do a proper flight with it at some point, and use all the toys :)

    • @after_midnight9592
      @after_midnight9592 Рік тому +2

      WT will have to add this capability back to the model as a 3rd party mod.

    • @BurnleyNuts
      @BurnleyNuts Рік тому

      @@after_midnight9592 I've yet to try on the latest update of the aircraft but it's a nice feature to have.

    • @AidenHilton981
      @AidenHilton981 Рік тому +3

      I REALLY wish this was on the xbox version. Having the chart of the airport would be so useful.

  • @KjartanAndersen
    @KjartanAndersen Рік тому +2

    Is it just me or is this a massive downgrade compared to the WT mod?

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      It's a subset of the functionality - almost certainly for legal reasons. There's nothing to stop you installing the Working Title mod :)

    • @BurnleyNuts
      @BurnleyNuts Рік тому

      Yeah I've been replaying with this since the update and the working title feels far more functional, Sim Brief integration, connecting to ground power, passenger briefs, checklists, charts if using Navigraph don't work and lots of buttons don't work and more. Definitely feels like a downgrade compare to working title.

    • @KjartanAndersen
      @KjartanAndersen Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett According to WT it isn't compatible anymore.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      @@KjartanAndersen Ah well :/

  • @gabor-toth
    @gabor-toth Рік тому

    It's much easier to use autothrottle for most of the flight, that way you don't have to keep changing the throttle for climb, cruise and descent. I mean, I assume this plane has AT, I admit I have barely used it so far. The Longitude has it.

  • @DionKedianPhotography
    @DionKedianPhotography Рік тому

    I've been having massive stuttering and lag since the last major update. I'm running 32gb and an RTX 2080 Super......so it should be fine. Anyone else suffering from stutter and lag (especially at take off and landing - both critical moments!)

    • @AidenHilton981
      @AidenHilton981 Рік тому +1

      It seems like there's always a new problem everytime they update the simulator. I'm just glad they fixed the CJ4 because it was awful before.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      No stutter here. It may be you have an add-on that doesn't like the new version ?

    • @DavidWadleigh
      @DavidWadleigh Рік тому

      Yes, I get stuttering, and indeed it is at its worst near or at airports. It started a couple updates ago and never went away for me. I've not really found anybody who had it as well but solved the issue. It really makes take-offs and especially landings tough.

    • @DionKedianPhotography
      @DionKedianPhotography Рік тому

      @@DavidWadleigh I havent found a solution yet

    • @DionKedianPhotography
      @DionKedianPhotography Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett I'v gone through the add-ons and done all the graphics cards updates and cant find a conflict. Its moderately frustrating. Thanks for the reply.

  • @ICE3Lokfuhrer
    @ICE3Lokfuhrer Рік тому

    Нормально

  • @jeffreyc2074
    @jeffreyc2074 Рік тому +6

    "Study level" is the most over used and over rated thing.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +3

      None of the aircraft in Flight Simulator are really "study" level - other than perhaps the Fenix Airbus.

    • @TheThinkXtra
      @TheThinkXtra Рік тому +1

      @@jonbeckett & PMDG 737 😀

  • @everythingvideos24
    @everythingvideos24 Рік тому

    FPS drop with this update as well.

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +3

      I didn't notice. I have the sim pegged at 30fps anyway - chasing FPS leads to madness, and hairs on the palm of your hands :)

  • @nexo5232
    @nexo5232 Рік тому +1

    This update sucks sooo much, WT was wayyy better. Now I don't have any joy flying the cj4 :/

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому

      Why not ask them if the features you miss are coming rather than complain elsewhere about it ? They have a discord server.

    • @nexo5232
      @nexo5232 Рік тому +1

      @@jonbeckett Well I'm just expressing my opinion about it and good point, hopefully they will implement some cool features like before :)

    • @jonbeckett
      @jonbeckett  Рік тому +1

      @@nexo5232 Seriously though - give them the feedback - they're a great team. I'm betting it was a legal reason that some of the functionality is gone.

    • @nexo5232
      @nexo5232 Рік тому

      @@jonbeckett Will do thanks! And also great job with videos keep them coming! ;)