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- How to cut the perfect hinge in minutes.
This is the perfect tutorial showing you how to cut in the perfect door hinge.
We show you the tools to use and the correct technique to become a Pro in no time at all.
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Very useful video, perfect length and layout. Thanks:)
I am a 70 year old woodworker and this is NOT the way I do it. But I watched his video all the way through and commend him on his presentation and the fact that he completed the project in mere moments with no flaws in the final result. I started my comment the way I did to make a point. Ask 10 carpenters how to set a hinge and you will get 12 answers, because some of us have multiple ways of doing the same thing. Our way of doing the project does make us experts, nor do the years we have done it make us the people to set the rules or standards. I enjoyed the video and think negative comments and thumbs down are the haters that are trolling around every social media site because they have little or no ability to do the job.
Great comment and I agree 😁
SO VERY WELL SAID!!! We be hatin' the haters!
Ha ha . Your dead right😄😄😄😄😂😂😂😂
Dan Breyfogle
Quite right Sir 👍🏻
If you are a 70 year old woodworker, why are you watching the video? Looks pretty good to me, Great video, very clear.
What is the difference between a feminist and a sharp chisel?This old chap chisel has a point. Ahahahaa!
Quality
I didn't listen, just watched, so maybe he mentioned this: The most important ingredient is a sharp chisel. That's not easy to accomplish. His chisel is quite sharp and good steel. Makes all the difference. Excellent carpenter.
A real joy to watch how you do this. My chiselling skills are crap and it takes me ages to achieve what you did here in minutes... believe me I have learned a bucket load watching a craftsman do it properly. Kudos to you! Can't thank you enough!
+Robert Horwat
Thank you Robert that's great to hear, I'm glad it has helped.
Thanks for the comment 😁
Trace the hinge with your Stanley knife/box cutter instead of a pencil. This starts the cut for you and you will get a way straighter and neater line to chisel too. 👌
I agree 100%
I find with this method the knife will try and follow the grain. Very easy to go off line. But if it works for you great 👍
@@joshuamatheron1 very true. Go with pencil line. Or use router and jig.
@@joshuamatheron1 across the grain use the knifes edge, with the grain use the back of the blade. i do this everyday, trick is not to push to hard the first time, create a soft score line first then harder again for another 2 or 3 times.
mike nguyen I’ll definitely try that. Nice one
Going to school in New Zealand I had woodworking lessons twice a week. This is the method taught to us way back then. Nice of you to share this with new 'Woodies' having a go themselves. There's so many tips and tricks to woodworking. Thanks mate.
That's a beautiful wood chisel that you're using👍
I use similar technique only I use marking gauge on face side to score a line the same thickness as hinge that way when bottoming out you have perfect line to seat chisel
yep, and a marking gauge to set out the width of the leaf. When you mark out your outer line using a wide chisel you are unlikely to get a perfect straight line because the grain isnt always dead straight.
Great tip Nicky. Thank you.
This video is for people like me that have never done this job and don't own a router I won't be buying one just for one job .Great video thanks.Thumbs up.
+Ryan H
Great thank you!
I just bought today a router to work hinges door tomorrow,haha ! He is a master Craftsman.
Yaaassssss
a router isn't just used for one job it can be used for a lot of jobs
Using a router eliminates and offset on the depth of the hinge cut. Uneven cuts cause doors to swing and tilt. Get a router and do it right
Nice vid.
I use a knife to mark out the hinge instead of a pencil. Gives a nice crisp accurate line
My Grandpops was a master Joiner carpenter he came from Ireland and hand crafted some of the finest joinery to be seen here in New York City NY..and over in Jersey city NJ i like a bit of Home repair on my time off from the Job.
Thanks fot taking time to put out the video.😉
I love it! everybody has access to a hammer and a chisel. There are tools that exist out there but they cost money. Keep it short and sweet is the way to go. Thank you very much for your video!
Exactly how I’ve been doing it for 40 years. 😄
Nice hinge cutout, becareful brushing away the wood, good way to get a splinter.
There are no videos on UA-cam without some thumbs down, even the best.
Thank you!! I feel encouraged to finally take this project on 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽
Setting up the job is important: Firstly, turn on the radio to 'Steve Wright in the Afternoon'. Then clear the workbench of the mug of tea that your wife just plonked down there in the way. After that search for the good chisel that you prefer. Then, when you can't find it, make a decision if it's worth re-sharpening the other one, that's not so good and also is too narrow. Walk to the shed looking for the hammer which is where you last used it, and knock over the paint-brushes in the white spirit into the screw storage-boxes. Then you're set to go!
Hahaha.
You lucky man your wife makes you a tea!
Mine doesn't!
We must be related. :-)
Andy harpist lol
Andy harpist very funny mate! Well said!
Spoken like a true fellow cluts......here here
I can't understand for the life of me, why 290+ people have given this video the thumbs down?
It was informative, well presented and easy to listen to. So what is there not to like guys?
By the way, THANKS FOR THE SHARE, "WITH A BIG THUMBS UP!"
+Paul Burgess
Thanks Paul I'm glad you found it useful and I do appreciate your comments 😀
Those young folks 👎 fully relies on machines. No skills without them.
He's not using a marking gauge😠😠
They just don't want to admit the presentation of real Master Craftsman. Because that's one heck of skills. I read good comments to him and it's an eye opening to everyone like me I just bought a router Today just to work on one door and I spent more than $100 dollars that's ouch after I watched him .
some folks are just nasty no matter what... I agree with you video well done.
All I need is a knife and a 18v router. But still I watched it all and enjoyed it.
So many smart arse comments. You keep it simple and informative, well done. Many of the router comments probably don't know how to use a chisel as I have found being a carpenter for over 30 years, as with a hand saw, clueless. Today's 'chippies' are fucked if you ask them to use a hand tool. Real carpenters use both hand and power tools
+Gary Wilkes
+Gary Wilkes
Thanks Gary, you seem to get the video.
Most comments are about using a router which I find annoying as all I'm trying to do is give a few tips on cutting out by hand.
I agree with you on today's chippies! It's good to.keep up the skills on the hand tools
Cheers Ryan
Excellent job. That's a nice chisel, very sharp. I may try this on my new door. Thanks
Would it not be easier to use a marking gauge to mark out the perimeter and depth?
Sure a router is fast and neat if you have to do ten doors a day. Even an experienced door hanger won't pull the router out for one door.
The same as you learnt how to do basic arithmetic without a calculator a carpenter learnt how to cut in a hinge with a chisel.
This video shows a great way of doing it; I'm an old carpenter and being hanging doors all my working life and I've seen a better way to do it today but I'm too old to change.
If you are a home handyman; use this method and you won't go wrong.
Just one suggestion; scribe a line the thickness of the hinge along the length as a guide to not cut too deep.
I could watch this all day, and New Year resolution is get good chisels and keep em sharp, great video thanks 👍
Something that has been useful and fast when swinging doors (3x4" hinges, just one door.)Is to use a mortice guage to run the longer part.Also by using the m/g pin to mark the corner that you end at, will prevent shooting past that corner.
It will, with practise, aid the depth of chiselling to a point that so little paring is required.
Neat, quick and simple.
Sorry, but using a knife to mark out can be dangerous and certain timbers will 'throw' the knife to follow the grain (Hemlock,Piranha Pine and certain parts of the oak; and many more.)
In the latter years of my employment I started to mark the depth and the width of the hinge with a a stanley knife and my adjustable square to a good depth, thereby giving me a good clean accurate
edge to the hinge cut out.
Great video. Like Dan, below, we all have our own way. However, I always have the depth marked too, using the thickness of the plate as the reference, so as not to go too deep which is all too easy, .
Tidy job, however I was taught to use marking gauge for both depth and width which would provide cutting guide lines. Set width of cut by scratching actual hinge knuckle end with marking gauge to say 2/3mm short of knuckle centre (avoid full visible knuckle which looks terrible when door is closed) then use second marking gauge on this line to set depth of sinking so as to obtain required gap between door edge and frame (do not rely on thickness of hinge leaf to give correct depth of sinking ) also first chisel end cuts should be just inside the required finish line due to the bevel on the chisel forcing the cut outwards.then cut a second time on the finish line. Also always use wood mallet never hammer to avoid damage to chisel handle. Sounds complicated but quite simple in practise. (Old school apprenticeship)
Anthony hughes Exactly how I do. Wish I could explain it as well you
thank you . saved me $30 on a hinge template
The main point that is missed is that a line must be scribed to the depth of the hinge before chiselling begins. This makes it easier to reach the desired depth without guesswork. You can also use the edge of the chisel across the width of the rebate at intervals to check for any high spots as you chisel.
Not how I’d do it but good, concise information for a DIY’er who is likely watching this video to learn. Personally I find it much quicker and cleaner to use a marking gauge. I also come in from the line a smidge with the chisel. Taking out the bulk then go back. This stops the chisel from wanting to travel beyond the intended line. Not sure why there are so many negative, rude comments.
I agree with both these points. Only I can never find my marking gauge on the jobsite... Going to experiment with using a combination square
Charles F combination square might be alright for the width. May be a tad tedious trying to mark the depth. Give it a go 👍
Thanks for taking the time to show how this is easily done.
This was cool!
Thank yiu
You should cut the ends in first otherwise the wood can split out, especially if it is hardwood.
I just tried hanging a door using what I think's called a 'Cold Chisel' ?..... Don't ! I just had to order a normal chisel of Amazon loool
🤣
Well job done very clean & learned better way to making things easier👍
Thank you!
Wonderful work. I wish I could hire you to work in my house!
Thanks for posting and I do savour the sound of a sharp chisel shearing through well seasoned wood. I worked in Bermuda once and the climate there is so wet and humid, chisels and wood don’t react the same way they do back home in Canada. I’ve always wanted to know where lumber is sourced from for the UK? The lumber you’re working on looks like white pine or possibly spruce. Would it come from Scandinavia? Just curious and thanks again for posting your useful and not too long-but not too short, video.
A.G. M. I think it's cls which is Canadian lumber stock 😏
I agree use a Stanley knife instead of a pencil to mark. In addition I clamp a piece of waste wood to support the 'non hinge edge' (if that makes sense) to stop the far edge splitting away. This can happen occasionally when you're paring with a chisel or working on more resistant hard woods. If a knot is awkwardly placed drill it out to 3 mm with a wood working drill first before cutting for hinge.
Router method is OK for multiple hinges.
I can cut in hinges faster than setting up a router template for just one door.
Chisel is more satisfying.
David Henderson you can cut free hand much faster than using templates
As an apprentice carpenter I was taught to set the marking gauge to the depth of the hinge and scribe the front of the timber which took all the guess work out of the paring.
These were the days when we had to serve a 5 year apprenticeship.
Yep I could have incorporated that into the video, but I guess I didnt as I never usually do it my self.
Thanks
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop takes a fair bit of skill to cut the depth by eye though. I hesitate to do that on an expensive door
Old school rules I was taught to come in slightly then follow your line so you down ride the grain to start with I wasn’t even allowed to use power tools in till I mastered the saw and planes
My colleage is still like that, which is both a good and bad thing
thank you very useful. And explained well. Thank you
Amazing to know, thank you very much
Good work, nice to a Londoner still using a chisel.
Just a little tip for the marking out: just turn the hinge upside down, butt the barrel part it against the door, cut around it with your marking knife moving the hinge up just a touch to cover the initial cut line one end for a tight fit. Easy and very accurate.
Yes.
It is extremely easy to slightly misalign the hinge.
By folding it back, it steadies the hinge as you mark it, keeping it perfectly parallel to the door edge.
Yes, admittedly I would use a router. But how satisfying was it to watch and how beautiful is the craft? It takes me back to the excitement of finally feeling I could get it right early on in trade school. Thanks for the video mate
That's great to know thanks !
All the router comments make me laugh.. if you can't use a chisel, you've got f**k all chance of using a router!
Well taught 👍
+stevethenurse
Haha Nice one steve!
stevethenurse hahaha! Very true XD
Bollocks!! If you can use a router, you can master a chisel.
Blonde in bikini
I can use a router, have done for a few years but for some reason never needed to chisel, until this year. Thanks to this video I now know how to use the chisel for hinges at least.
Can’t see anyone mentioning marking Depth gauge. I must be a dinosaur
I'm a 63-year-old journeyman electrician. So many young people today entering the trade don't have the patience to be a craftsman. It's always a pleasure to me to watch a craftsman from any trade, like this gentleman, do a quality job.
+David - Marsha Bufkin
Very kind David thank you.
Feel free to subscribe, lots more new videos to come.
It's good to know people are enjoying the vids!
Thanks
Ryan
That’s a lovely comment
@@thelondoncraftsmanworkshop i have a door off center from the kiddos hanging on it and ended up breaking the bottom hinge and ripping it out from the wall. I tried stuffing toothpicks in there for some new wood to screw into (tried longer screws too), also tried cardboard to make it flush in some places lol. What a waste of time. I'm just going to give this a shot and make a new one a little lower on the door and wall and put another in the center of the door , thanks :)
Armando Espinosa not sure i would I would classify majority of them as craftsmen...have you been to a jobsite? 30 minutes coffee to get started, multiple breaks through out day, constantly complaining "not my job" and start pulling tools together at 2 pm so they are in car at 2:30. Harsh comments but not good experiences with union works for 20+ years dealing with them!
I was having a beer one afternoon in a pub that I had been working on. I overheard a conversation where this fellow was saying that he wouldn't want a guy on one of his jobs who had a handsaw in his tool bag. I remember thinking that I wouldn.t want a guy on one of my jobs that didn't have a handsaw and the presence of mind to know when that tool was appropriate to the situation.
My gosh, how to keep the trades alive. Scary!
Been looking to hang some new doors love DIY , so I started looking into giving it ago lol , gig for this, gig for the , router, omgosh the cost was going up and up thanks to UA-cam and great channels like this, I'm confident I can do the whole job myself many thanks. Take care everyone 😉
I can go back some 50 years when I have worked with some real old time joiners who really knew how to use hand tools (yes there are power tools to do most jobs now). The joiner in this video genuinely has the tool handling skills of the old timers that you dont see much these days. A pleasure to watch.
Thank you John!
Great video - thanks for that. Very helpful.
Thank you very much 😊👍
Good video. I don't understand why people can't watch for what it is. There is always other ways to do things buy that is not what you are showing. I do blacksmithing but can do a lot of the same things in my machine shop but it's not the same as hammering it out the work. Keep the videos coming.
+Ralph Macey
Thanks for the comments Ralph.
Maybe in my next videos I'll explain what you just said right at the beginning, as your spot on!
Thanks for the support
Ryan
well done Mike,thanks for sharing
Thank you, feel free to subscribe 😁
The router crack is shit, ive tried both ways and this way is faster for me.
Obviously the guy is taking his time in the video to demonstrate what he's doing.
Good tutorial
+gary jones
Cheers Gary!
Actually the router isn’t crap. It’s a better way to do it hands down. But for homeowners doing a few hinges this is perfectly fine
What about curved hinges, or loads of hinges at once? Perhaps a router would be useful then??
in nobyhu 7
it's a very narrow and long door he was working on
Thank you Ryan, I just used your method installing new hinges and latches on my boat, excellent tip!
That's great to hear thank you! 😁
Very ell explained, look forward to your next video, hopefully how to hang a door in a dodgy original frame.
Thank you!
Haha my least favourite job in the world 🤣
Best use a mallet. A hammer is for nails.
+Airscapee Airscaper
I did actually mention using a mallet in the video, but I count find it in the time of need 😂
Airscapee Airscaper i was trained to use the side of the hammer head and not the face when using chisels as it has larger face to make contact.
especially with an expensive Japanese chisel
Im a 3rd year chippy apprentice chippy who works for a office fitout company. So i do alot of of wall and ceiling framing/cladding and do the doors/skirting/ shelving. Doors are my favourite by far. If i wast just using a chisel this is the exact way i was tought to cut hinges. But when i have a job with 15- 40 doors on floor ill always chisel the edges and use a router with a guide to cut out. Once the router is set for depth and width its alot faster process.
Also when hanging the doorl Ive always just stuck with a planner. Ive been thinking to buy a railsaw after hearing that's what alot of guys use it and say it's faster. Would appreciate if anyone had any opinions or tips
Id definitely use a plunge saw for trimming doors, but have a selcetion of 1.6m and 3m tracks for speed :-)
782 dislikes from guys who are only capable of cutting out hinges with a jig and router
I hate getting the cords and bulky tools out. Hammer chisel all day long, feel the wood sort of thing. Maybe a gas powered router...
I love this wanted to put 3 new doors into original jam lol but the cost of gigs and router was crazy found on UA-cam how to do the whole thing with tools my wifey already has , perfect
❤👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
forgot to use marking guage for hinge thickness
+George Shepherd
The original footage did have the marking gauge in it but it had to be edited out unfortunately.
Sad, as I think the marking gauge turns the job from looking ordinary to something with really crisp edges. Many good tips in this video, but I think you omitted one of the most important steps. Cheers, David.
Would of been nice to see you do it on a door not a hard bench
This is the method used in the old days by craftsmen and is a great learning curve for newcomers to woodworking; it takes a little practice to master but once you do it is very satisfying to be able to do the job properly without relying on the new mechanical methods used today. It's a good video and easy to follow.
By the time I’ve fucked about with a jig I’ve got 2 hinges on with a chiz and mallet. 6 down, 9 up BOSH!
Clean work mate 👌🏼
Job Made Easy thanks 👍🏻👍🏻
I agree with the others that it is a well presented video and very clear instructions. Being a carpenter myself unless it is a hardwood lipped door how many of you have been lucky enough to cut a hinge out without a knot being in the way. Your don't need to be a craftsman to cut a hinge in a bit of timber clamped to a workbench, the real craft is trying to cut a hinge in a door that's held between your legs with a knot in the way. I hope a video is posted with this dilemma for the many people out there that come across this daily as I do.
This man would not have lasted 5 minutes in my time...He did not use a marking gauge to mark the back cut, and the depth, which makes a perfect job, and a lot easier....I should also say that i could cut that hing out in 10% of the time it took him!.
Hi Thomas gee.
A few things to note...
Firstly I was making a short tutorial, not a comprehensive in depth video.
Second, the hinge I chopped in was spot on taking into account i was filming and explaining what i was doing at the same time.
Third, I personally don't need a marking gauge as you can see from the results, you may do though!
Forth, feel free to post a video of you chopping in a hinge in 30 seconds ( which is 10% of the time as you stated).
Thanks for your comments
Ryan
@@jackyboygee777 Wheres your video pal??
@@jackyboygee777 Make a video showing how you do it.
@@alliedfroth ..I'm 78 yrs old and i don't have a clue how to make a video, but i served my time in a joiners shop, and we often pre fitted doors to frames for quickness on site, and many had very hard and brittle wood edges, such as Walnut, Sapele and Afromosia ......From when i have my hinge side of the door fitted and the hinge marked and gauged on the door edge, i cut it out perfectly in 10 seconds......Gauge marks stop splitting, and are precise first time. Without gauge marks, you are guessing, the depth especially....The guy cutting this example is very good at it, using his method, and of course his video is explanatory, which takes time, so no offense intended, but using a gauge makes the job a lot quicker, and in my day, speed was money....I like these videos, but of course we all have different methods....Hinge cutouts with a knot are time taking, and it is often best to move the hinge position if it is appropriate to do so.
this is a great video. Saved me $30 on a door hinge template. Thanks you so much.
That's great!
Thank you!
This is good old " old school " method. It's going to be a lost art.
Today most kids use various machines to get the same result.
Without them they just stand there cries for MOMMY.
Thanks Ryan for those Tips . Appreciate it. .Perth Western Australia.
Your welcome Martin! Thanks for the comments 😁
Excellent! To all the folks saying use a router - no duh, but you're completely missing the point of having skills like this when a router won't work, or a customer pays big bucks because they want the mortise work done by hand. You can't beat a carpenter who has power tools + the skills to do things by hand as well.
AND sometimes you have to spend more effort on making a jig for the router to clear the stop than it would be to do it with a chisel
I was taught to use a carton knife to trace out my hinges. That cuts the fibers especially on the edge. Also Get yourself a mallet or make one. Your chisels will love you for it. All kinds of videos here to show how they are made, shapes, sizes, etc. Now follow up with hinges with the rounded corners.
I have to say, I use the utility knife as well, but when I trace out the hinge, I angle it in at about 45 degrees and make a light, not heavy scribe. Then I'll set the chisel actually inside the scribe as he does with the pencil line and let the chisel bevel push outward ALMOST to the line.
I'll use a rubber mallet sometimes to impress the hinge tightly into the cut, leaving no visible crack. FUN STUFF!
Thanks for a very informative video. It's great to watch proper old craftsmen skill too.
+ShedTV
Your welcome and thanks for the comment😀
I’m a qualified carpenter/joiner and I always use a Chisel unless I’m doing loads of doors then I get my router out,also you should use a marking gauge it gives a perfect line to work too.Thanks
+Dave Medlar
Thanks for the comments 😀
Dave Medlar I totally agree with you. Anyone that would pull out a router for one door doesn't know how to use hand tools, and in my eyes is not a true carpenter.
Great video for us old school boys that have the versatility to use hand tools.
+Troy Williams
Thank you!
I'v done good DIY work for 40 years, of virtually all kinds, BUT--seeing the sharpness of that chisel, reminds me of the difficulty I always had, in honing mine, and, getting pro's to do it for you is almost impossible these days.
Flawless job, just need the patience to do it, it came out very clean.
Yes i agree , patience is key, and sharp chisel, thats where ive been going wrong😞
Ugh someone come do this to my door
as a carpenter for 40 years all good except you should use a gauge for depth of hinge and width
+Frank Dempsey
Cheers Frank, I edited that part out of the video but will add that into the next vid😁
shame all the kids are using routers in college now. ask them to cut something in by hand and they cant.
very true, there is a time and place for a router but not in college for these small jobs!
Great advice, great video! I massacred my first one but using this video I managed to save it and the second one was almost perfect! Nice work mate!
small tip for people who don't know, instead of drawing around your hinge with a pencil you should scribe around the hinge with a Stanley blade this gives you a more accurate line plus it gives you a small groove for your chisel to sit in. :)
And that is the proper way to do it
Thanks for showing.
Why no marking gauge?
Got 5 doors to work on later and this is exactly what I needed to see, wish me luck! Thank you!
I'm glad it's of some help, thanks for the nice comments.
You'll be fine! 👍👍
good video, I just think it's easier to mark the depth of the hinge on the chisel or door first.
This is a great video explaining how to fit hinges with tools that would be accessible to a DIYer. Yes you can do it faster with a router but time it takes to set up the jig etc is only worth it if you are fitting multiple doors.
The techniques shown here are great, the only thing that is missing really is scoring around the hinge with a Stanley knife before chiselling out. Scoring the edges gives a perfect edge up to the hinge.
Thanks a bunch. I was hoping to find a quick way to do it with chisels as opposed to going out to buy a router amd jig. I only need to do one door after all
You're welcome, and practice makes perfect 👍👌
@thelondoncraftsman2026 worked out great. Not as neat as yours but good enough. It was also a little tricky because my hinges had rounded corners. By the time I did the 3rd one though I pretty well had it figured out.
Router is also messy and noisy if you are doing it in a customers home.
The key is the sharp chisel
Thanks so much! Exactly what I needed. I'm installing a large doorbell housing and needed to recess the trim around the door. You saved me from having to hire someone! :)
the two hits by hammer is key
I wish i watched this video before i started my project of replacing an interior door, the old timers that did this 100 years ago didnt need a router. Perfect hinge in minutes.
+Greg Stubiak
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It's a nice simple technique that gives great results.
Agree and this is how I was taught at trade school but a router ensures 100% depth accuracy every time and fast if doing a house lot.
I'm always arguing with my boss about where to line up hindges! As you got it is the best way but my boss shoves the hindge against the door and cuts them in. This will sometimes couse rubbing which we don't want! Im gonna show him your vid ;)
Thanks!
Excellent job thanks👍
+الياباني الياباني
Thanks!
Pre-fab 😎
First time ever with a chisel and cutting my own hinges. Followed you video and I made a great job if I say so myself! Thank you.
+1ducyboy
Amazing thank you for the great feedback!
Use a marking gauge to determine the depth then you will have it right first time
Exactly what I was thinking that’s how I was taught but all you get now is NVQ 2 joiners on site who don’t do a proper apprenticeship and can’t cut a mitre by hand or even chop a hinge and lock out they expect everything to be done in a factory
Great video! Thanks for sharing your skills with us
+Gee * Man Tubo
Thanks for the great comments they are really appreciated!
Thanks Ryan