Make this easy Router Hinge Jig in Minutes that Works with ANY Frame!
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
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mate this is brilliant as someone who doesn't do a lot of hinges and didn't want to buy a expensive jig this has come in really handy
I watch your videos religiously and not once have I not been blown away with a simple but highly effective method to do anything
Cheers Frankie! :)
Made your previous hinge jig and used it to fit 11 new doors in old linings. Worked a treat. Thanks for all your information. Making things easier for me. Cheers Jim
Nice one Jim, So the comments telling me it would never work in real life, despite doing so myself all the time, are wrong!? haha Thanks for the feedback! :)
@@BradshawJoinery You showed just one hinge installed. I say that your method is inadequate to get 3 (or even2) hinges installed on a door and jamb because you will not get the spacing of the mortises close enough. You need a jig that does all three mortises without repositioning and then use the same jig on the door slab and on the jamb. Also, it is not unusual for the hinges themselves to be not identical.
@@pauleohl i use thes jigs literally daily on 3 sometimes 4 hinge doors and never have a problem. Since it cuts exactly to the edge of the jig you just clamp the jig to your marks and it's perfect.
Always make the jig .5mm bigger. Aslong as the housing is neat a slight oversize isn't noticeable... And yeah check more than one hinge if not all for size..
Hi from the USA. Love your video. This is simplest & easiest to make DIY hinge jig I've seen on UA-cam. No fancy, and for me, unnecessary extras to add. All my doors are the same. I left one end long enough to measure down from the top of the jamb and other end long to measure from the bottom. Just added tabs to both ends to account for top & bottom clearances on the door itself. Works a treat. I didn't get the idea though until I watched the way you made your jig. I might make a video and place it on UA-cam to show how I did with full credit to you for giving me the idea. You have a new subscriber. Thanks!
Thankyou very much! I genuinely dont think it can be bettered. mmaybe tweaks to add funtionality, but if you needed a quick jig to chop a plate or hinge in, its just so darn easy... Thanks for the sub
I don’t do much with wood doors. I’m actually a Glazier for 30 years. We do as much with aluminum frames and doors as glass. I’m 30 minutes away from NYC. I landed a side job installing wood door slabs in old openings and your videos helped big. Although I used the ryobi door kit. Which worked ok, but was a bit too small for the hinges I was using. I got paid, so I must have done a good job. Thanks again.
Thankyou Edward! Interesting to hear feedback from around the world. I want to travel NYC in next few years.
By far the best homemade jig video, thank you sir!
Thanks, I must hang 20 reproduction shutters on ten windows on a house built in the mid 1800's. This will definitely save me time! I saw some other instructional videos but loved the simplicity of this one. 👍 Built the jig tonight, will start using it tomorrow!
Nice one Ollie ! router jig every time I’ve got router jigs going back decades cant bear to get rid of them, I’ve got a couple for a helical staircase i made 25 years ago, I’ll never use them again but i think they are a thing of beauty 🥴🤭
Nice one Jim, Its definitley quicker and more repeatable accuracy IMO. I bet the staircase looked lovely if the jigs are beautiful!
Jim, its not a jig anymore... its a memento.. 😉
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Thank you for this video, I just completed making my jig and cutting the Mortise for my hinges. I was very apprehensive about this job, but you made it easy for me. Thank you.
Nice work! Glad it helped! 👌
Very good video. You certainly knows what you are doing and have done it several times. Totally agree about your last statement that if you are doing more than 1-2 hinges it is faster and more accurate with a router, but sometimes it "feels" like it takes too long to set up the router so then I chop with a chisel 😅 I'm planning on buying a few cheap router that are set up and ready to go for only one operation each.
You are a very clever man. My tutor told me that, in order to be a good teacher, you need two things: a thorough knowledge of the subject and the ability to impart that knowledge. I have added: the willingness to impart that knowledge. You have it all in spades and, to reuse what may become an overused phrase: yet another day when I go to bed less stupid 🌞
Not stupid, ignorant. Stupid = can’t learn. Ignorant = hasn’t learned, yet. The simple fact that you’re here, with all of us, is proof you’re far from stupid. 😎
Cheers Ray! Hope your well and sleeping less stupidly! :)
My thoughts entirely.
Bearing jigs can be very accurate and can take advantage of smaller diameter bits which can perfectly match smaller curves in hinges or can lead to less chiseling; the biggest issue is ensuring the base plate and bearing are centered with the collet otherwise they can be very inaccurate. I use both depending on the need but like anything else you’ll get out what you put in.
Cheers, ive used bearings alot in joinery manufacture and never used a ring fence until i made one. I like the adjustability! but its easy to get flat spots!
I swear by using hinges jigs now, I’ve even used my cnc to make up some “posh” ones, I’d been keen to do you challenge of chopping by hand verses using the router.
Nice one, They are the way to almost guarantee sucess!
Saved me buying a trend hinge jig .. legend!
Thanks Westley. Although Trend won't be happy they support the channel 🤣🤣👍
Simple idea but outside of your workshop most door frames have architraves are fitted so wouldn't work without making a different jig for every job. I do like it though great for the doors
It works with architrave, asking as there is a few mm of lining/frame showing just cut the jig down to register on that lip. I use it all the time👍
Use a Vix bit to center the screws. Plus it works on lots of other things too.
Good job on the jig, they work very well for interior and exterior jambs
Yes, Great little things!
Great little jig and outcome is awesome.
I had a thought of making the length of it for the correct hinge space on the frame. Top and bottom. Boom.
I would leave the jig long enough ( I’ve standardised my butts at 150mm down, 225mm up) to set the top hinge from the head of the lining using a 3mm packer. Then the jig would be set flush with the top of the door.
Yeah, the joy of them is they are adaptable and easy to work with! Thanks
In my experience the jig is far more accurate than chopping in by hand but in certain situations it is not possible to use the jig so going back to the chisel is needed, by using both you retain the skills.
I always wonder if all went to the wall and we had no electricity would the modern day carpenter be able to cope 🤔.
Retaining hand tool skills has to be paramount in my honest opinion, even if modern machines can do the job quicker in some case.
Great video on how to male a jig your way, and may I say a lot simpler than I make mine however I still have mine so thx for the wisdom it is much appreciated 👍
I reckon i could get by, but id need to buy alot more hand tools. Things like plough planes and rip saws for dimensioning timber i just dont own as they wouldnt get used and i dont have the space.
Thanks for this very timely demo as I'm about to hang my first door; it's an internal security type hardwood door. Having watched many YT vids on this I think yours is the best for my needs and I feel confident it's within my capabilities. However..........
I could do with a few pointers from yourself or your viewers;
1. To give a little wiggle room for the hinge at both edges would the thickness of a playing card or 2 either side work - I regularly use cheap playing cards as spacers and they work well!?
2. Should I use the original frame notches to hang the door?
3. If I use the original notches should I pack the screw holes - I normally use a couple of wooden toothpicks to fill holes to allow the screws to bite?
4. If I use the the original notches what is the best way to get an accurate alignment with the door - I have a couple of air bags that will lift the heavy door?
Many thanks, Bill _ Hap hazard DIYer!!!
Hi Bill, yes use the existing hinge location, if your hinge is the same size as the existing housing, just make the jig to that size(the width you rip the timber down to) yeah anything to give a little bit of wiggle room. Be careful if routering without clamping the jig, you may be best screeing it to the frame and then filling the screw hole carefully.
Aligning the door, I tend to plane the door to fit, then put in the opening and either wedge up to a packer at the top or just mark the hinge points the appropriate offers for the amount the door needs to lift 👍
Awesome vid. Just getting into routering so this will come in very handy 👍👍
Thanks Chris. Its a great technique for making any router jig with them cutters.
Chris, if you feel a bit nervous getting yer digits too close to the cutter whilst holding the jig, fire an 18g finish nail into each end of the jig and then trim them back to a millimetre or so exposed... then you can just push the jig against the frame and the nail tips will grab and hold the jig , you will probably not even need to put yer hand on the jig whilst routing and when the jig is not in use the tiny exposed brad ends wont be a hazard either...
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Like it! Gone cordless (dewalt palm) because I simply refuse to pull the corded 1/4" out of the van because Meh! Will use this method although I can chisel locks and hinges rapidly, but if I've got say more than 3 doors = route.
Nice work thank you
Great jig for square hinges, however, what if you have a 5/8" radius hinge?
Try to find a top bearing cutter with same radius
Nice, i see your frame sits on a table. How do i do that? Also what's the point of the second piece of wood on that wooden jig? Do you not have a guide spacer that comes with the router? There's router bits with a bearing on top to stop you going koo koo and invent a snail trail hinge
Love the simplicity of it. CA glue doesn't work well for me, though. I get to use it once and throw the rest away. Guess I just don't use it often enough.
Make sure you blow air through the nozzle (empty it ) then clean before putting lid back on. Seems to last then,
can we see both manual and router jig methods please ollie will be interesting to see time diff.when your on the job time is money .cheers bud looking forward to the next one
If you’re doing one door then it’ll be quicker by hand, two doors then it’s a debate but more than two doors then build a jig. As for money, always quote for the time it would take you doing the job by hand. (Trad method). 59 year old carpenter
Cheers matey, i will do the comparison video soon! Im intrigued by it too.
What a brilliant informative video, thanks
Cheers Mark. Glad its helped you out
Good job man👏
Thankyou!
Thank you very much for your great work and very well explained, the only suggestion if you have a bad throat and need to drink water because your mouth dries out a lot, I recommend that you drink water before Explain each process, swallowing saliva because you don't drink water is not cool, always take your bottle of water by your side and drink, then continue explaining, ,great job
Cheers Mike, Too much talking and a lack of drinking, Duly noted, i try to keep some water with me now, thanks for the help! :)
How do you make the jig work with doors with the architrave in place around the frame.
Cheers
Trim the front lip down so it's only a few mm and then it won't hit the architrave
Fantastic video thank you
Cheers Anthony :)
Great video. Have you done video for door handle with catch and a handle with mortice lock. Cheers Doug.
I havent, I made a video on the mortice plate jig somewhere
Man - you're good
just subscribed to your channel , its fab
just starting making the hinge jigs
regards
Gareth
hrh joinery
Thanks👍
The thickness needs to be 21mm?
No, with them profile cutters, the jig can be 15mm- id say max 25. 15mm is best as your router is closer to the workpiece (less cumbersome)
How would you cut the rebate without table saw ?
there is no rebate, just straight cuts. Plane or hand saw timber down?? any way really.
Looks like my design I've been using for 6 years
Nice one Billy
Where's your video?
clever!
Thanks!
The jig itself is good but holding it in place is what I found quite difficult.
And clamping may not be as easy as it seems, especially if you have the stopper only 5 mm to allow use of it on a door frame with architrave. Couple screws can be a solution if two little holes isn't an issue. Has anyone better idea?
if you want to screw without holes you can add a nib on the front section within the hinge housing, screw through that, and rout around it. then chisel tat small piece level with the housing afterwards
@@BradshawJoinery Ok, I got the idea. Thanks! 👍
I realized that I am not the MAC daddy, must get corner jig
Nice job. Those Trend Corner Chisels are crap though. I've two with lumps broken out of them and they didn't even do much work.
Oh, ive got on well with it tbf, its tricky to line up sometimes, but no issues yet. They would replace it im sure!
@@BradshawJoinery they don't sell just the cutter part. You have to buy a whole new one
I mean, email them and ask for a replacement if it's failed
Definitely would have been quicker to chop in with a chisel. Could have had it all done before you'd made the jig, probably before you'd got the saws out of the van. It's a neat finish mind and if you had a load of doors to do then the router would catch up quite quickly after the first couple.
Hi Woody, have a look for chisel vs router video. :)
What about 25mm MDF is that over kill?
Its a bit clumsy. It want to be a compact as poss to keep and risk of errors from wobbling the router to a minimum.
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It takes too long to do hinges cut this way and you show us when you doing on the work table you should try this on fitted frame it’s not easy to do
Hi, i did a comparison video for this vs hand, and this is by far the best method.... check it out on the channel
Waffle on and on
cheers, Tiktok is the place for entertaining videos that teach you very little
I haven’t seen robin clevitt make half the stuff Bradshaw joinery makes and ur ripping him for a jig. Sort urself out guys ffs.
2 is the traditional way and should be good enough for an acclimated door that 35mm thick. Would need more for thicker heavier doors!
question. what was the spray he used just before applying the glue?
oh yes sooner the better before Mr clevett makes more money from those suckers out there great stuff as usual
Of course 👍
So true, i can’t believe that so many people are paying ridiculous money for a piece of mdf when they can simply make their own
Love this, really useful. I’ve never thought about using a flush trim bit. You could make things even quicker by using radius hinges. Also, double-sided tape is your friend, use it to hold the jig in place on the doorframe.
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Excellently done! That jig is more precise than any I have seen.
Hi - interesting video, and I use a small jig for hinging single doors - however a chippy I had on my first build ( 10 doors - all the same size and height ) brought in a nice straight piece of carcasing timber made a jig with 2x hinge positions, chopped it to the exact length of the door and put a screw in the top of the jig set 4mm up. Here is the key. The same jig is used on the frame and the door. You level the top of the jig with the top of the door, and on the frame the screw datums with the underside of the head ( top of the frame ) - hence both routed hinge pockets align exactly. He did 8x doors in a day ( plus chopping out for the locks/latches. Gives you CNC accuracy since the Centre to Centre measurement uses the same jib - Boom. Massive time saver.
Thats super clever. Removes any potential issues from "offering up the door" and marking..
I always use a piece of 4" x 1" wood, cut out all THREE hinge shapes carefully with a jig saw, i use that for the door and frame, use small screws to hold it in place and router all 3 hinges - perfect every time and really quick ( keep the jig flush with the top of the door but then use a 2mm shim in the top of the door frame/lining)
YOu could do a similar method with your 4x1 but just glue the parts to it around the hinges.... much quicker and perfect cutouts.
As a joiner myself I love jigs and made a few jigs myself but I do like your idea so I will be making your jig we use those Trend router bits if it’s a one off job we just use green router bit you can have them sharpened once but the piece of these bits l just put a new one in
Brilliant little jig. Much better than the one I've been using. I particularly like the rebate for fitting on a frame with the check already fitted. Thanks for sharing.
Oliver, this is the second video in a row that I watched where the young guys taught this old guy a new trick. Thank you from Maine USA
Thankyou Roy, Pleased to hear the old grey matter is improving :D haha
That's genuinely brilliant! And yes, it would certainly be interesting to see the comparison with a hand-chopped version. If you have the time to spare, that is :-).
HI, i did this video, its on my channel
Absolutely love this idea and will be putting it into practice this coming weekend. Great video.
Thankyou! Its brilliant and so adaptable for any jig ! Enjoy
Done and dusted, made the fitting of 4inch butts so much easier on 12 internal spey ply fire check doors. Thank you.
Can you make me one it would be easier for me lol ❤
Can I use this on an existing door frame (which is fixed in the wall)
yes absolutley, you may have to screw fix it and cut it to clear architrave and door stops but it works great
Very clever, made this jig and it works perfectly. Much neater than chiselling out. Now not so daunted to do thew 7 doors O have planned as a DIYer. THANK YOU, sooo helpful.
Brilliant news Ross, how did they go?
Hi Ollie
When we spoke last the other week
you was telling me about this one mate
Iv made A few of them now all different sizes.
all this week I’ve been fitting fire doors with 4” hinge ,three on each door
I can’t tell you just how much time this jig has saved me
Thanks mate 🪚👍
Brilliant matey, that's what I like to hear 🙏 😍
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Thank you for the brilliant video. Will be doing some door work soon and this will make the job much easier.
Cute that you said “easy”.
i have seen lots of these type of hinge jigs over the years, and they work very well, but can be time consuming as you still have to mark and space out your hinge positions. I worked as a 2nd fix carpenter for many years before i retired, and have hung 1000's of doors and nothing beats the trend one piece hinge jig, they only take i few minutes to set and once set can do many doors without re-setting, theres no measuring or marking involved and the jig works on rebated frames or if stops are fixed. the only time i would use your type of jig is if i'm fitting a door into an old frame that and want to match existing cutouts
Excellent video. Well explained. I would personally leave the jig long to be able to clamp it, but I accept you are comfortable without clamps. Thanks!
if you look at the last hing jig video, i did a bit more detail on clamping the jig and the relief cut that helps with that
Gorilla black tape is your friend for holding the jig to anything, saves loads of time.
Will have a look thankyou
Great idea fir a jig and simple to boot. I'd definitely give that a go if I have to hang a door in future. I'd be up for watching a shoot out between manual and router cutting. Cheers.
Cheers mate, Yes thats the key isnt it, easy to make then its worthwhile. Im not one for spending days making an elaborate jig to do a 2 minute job! lol Ill film the shootout
Absolutely loved this, to a point that i made a full version to do three hinges at a time following your method..cheers 😊
I made one a while back to do the 3 hinges really quick
You could make that jig in 5 minutes I think I would struggle to make it in 55 minutes. Very good video.
Cheers John, Yeah i made one today and timed it, it is possible!
Yes definitely do a comparison of hand cutting in and making jig as a race is always great fun👍👍👍
great video and a simple great jig,in your opinion is the glue enough without any screws ?
Yeah absolutely. I'd only pus screws in if you are really heavy handed. I've not had one break up yet. Ever
Thanks Ollie - chopping out on hardwood frame in situ is never a quick thing so interesting to see a controlled experiment! How are you getting on with the sash windows video, I’m looking forward to that
Cheers Mate, it'll probably be the next video, Its a big edit, and I want it to be a good one, but also been working 10+hour days 7 days a week so there were a few videos that were easier to do first
So I need a table saw
Great vid, what about existing arcatrave ? This would need rebating also I take it
Yeah you can cut it down to sit on a 2/3mm lip if necessary
brilliant vid. I always hated fitting hinges but i think i might actually start enjoying it now 😀
Nice to hear Felix. This method for making jigs is the dream
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What happens when the architrave is round the door frame the jig will hit it
Just trim the front section down to suit the lip.... same can be done if there is a door stop, you can rebate the hinge jig over the door stopp
yep works :)
great video
I'm struggling to keep the router flat on the open edge, any pointers?
you could glue an nother flat piece on the front to help support, but mostly just a judgment thing how much pressure to put on the back of the router to stop it tilting
I just made one of these, so thanks. 👍 I have seen some with a deeper clamping plate and a platform on the other side to support a router but I have a little Bosch 12v router and it works well for stuff like this. Already have the trend template bit. And some knock off Amazon ones too.
Great video. Exactly what I was looking for 👍
I love the simplicity of this jig, it's brilliant. One variation I made for a pair of very wide gate hinges that I needed to rebate into a fence post (don't ask 😂🤣😂) was that I didn't cut a complete slot in the stop, I used a rabbeting router bit to create a recess in the stop to allow the profile router bit to reach the end of the post I was rebating whilst still retaining solid (2 sided) support for the router base across the whole width of the rebate.
For a DIYer I feel it's much, much easier to get a decent finish when fitting hinges by using a jig and router rather than a chisel, and this has to be the easiest way of making a jig there can be, so many thanks 👍.
Can u show how to do it the old fashioned way before the router
Actually here is one of my very old videos 👍😂
ua-cam.com/video/eQqkSXNcGOo/v-deo.html
Made your jig today to use on 7 hardwood doors, used to do the hybrid thing but realised you're not as quick as either chisel or router. Made the obvious mistake of glueing the final piece to the underside of the jig, just like you were about to and stopped. Made 3 in total as the second one was about 1 mil out and I could see too much leaf. However, after buggering about for about an hour, it finally clicked and I even clamp the jig to the door and leave it there while I chisel out the radius that was left.
Thanks a lot, saved me going to RC for basically the same thing
Nice video, but I would prefer clamps, so just make the jig longer so the clamps don't interfere with the router.
Aww man, this is genius. I have a practical exam in a couple of weeks & been racking my brains on how I'm going to make a home made Jig. Thanks so much
Thanks for the vid Oliver. I had 4 doors to hang and made your hinge jig from the previous video which worked fantastically with nice tight results, thank you. The superglue assembly really surprised me too. Used the latch jig also which was a bit trickier as the hole needed for the latch body was only 1mm smaller than the latch plate. I’ll look forward to the hand vs router challenge !
Brilliant, thankyou Alex! I will do the hand vs router video, Im intrigued! haha
Just in time, 16 doors in a new build next week (price work)😊
May be better with a jig that sets the height and hing spacings all in one for that one!
@@BradshawJoinery my thoughts exactly 👍
Nice
Hi this looks great and I'm going to make one this weekend. I just wondered whether there needs to be any change made to making one to accommodate a rebated door frame that already has architrave fitted? As presumably the depth won't be correct with the architrave stopping the jig from sitting flush? Thanks in advance
if you make the flat part and rebate it over the door stop before you glue the front lip/fence on itll then sit over the door stop. can also accomodate architrave if you cut the front fence down small enought to just catch the small lip of lining that is left.
@@BradshawJoinery ah that's great, thank you! I saw the rebate part for the door stop but couldn't see how you'd accommodate architrave. Thanks again - I'll send over some 🍺 money!! 👍🏽
What if you have a curved radius hinge?
Easiest would be do exactly the same but but the appropriate size radius top bearing router cutter