The Iron Throne was specifically designed to be uncomfortable to sit on. Aegon the Conquerer, who designed the throne specifically said "A king should never sit easy in his power"
The dragon skull at the end with Viserys talking to his daughter is Balerion. That dragon helped the Targaryens conquer Westeros. When Viserys was a young man he rode him but Balerion was very old and died shortly after. He never bonded with another dragon and is very wary of dragons.
Targaryens have had incestuous marriages for as long as Aegon I the Conqueror and his two sister wives, Visenya and Rhaenys. Since they believe in keeping the bloodline pure because they are the last valyrian family that can control and have special bonds with dragons. Queen Aemma Arynn is actually Viserys' cousin and Rhaenys and Corlys are also related since the Velaryons are close relatives of Targaryens because both houses are of Valyrian descent.
This is awesome, I love that you guys understand Daemon. I seen a lot of casual viewers thinking he's the villain when OBVIOUSLY, Otto is after the throne and doesn't want Daemon to have it because 1. Daemon can't be controlled and 2. Otto would be dismissed as Hand immediately because Daemon sees him for what he is. He's no doubt been crapping on Daemon to the king and misrepresenting things to drive a wedge between them. Yeah, it's no coincidence the queen dies, Otto sends Alicent to visit the king, and Daemon is denounced as heir. Otto is a massive Littlefinger.
Some of what you write is correct but your analysis is too one sided, just as much as those who say Daemon is Joffrey. In House of Dragon all the main characters will have good and bad traits, strengths and flaws. Nobody is inherently good or bad.
@@gaborkiss650 I know, they talked about some of that so I didn't mention it. Nobody in this show is purely good or evil. Daemon is one of the more complicated people. So what I said wasn't to make him seem purely good, it was to bring some of the more positive aspects to his character to light. I'm a big fan of Daemon and I loved him in Fire and Blood, what was written about him from the maester's POV. My only point was that he is not Joffrey.
Viserys is the first king without a dragon which adds to this air of weakness. By sending his most powerful and loyal dragonrider away he opens himself to the power hungry crows. Daemon is GRRM's favorite Targ so expect a very interesting character from him! Alicent and Rhaenyra are very very different, this includes Alicent's dislike of dragons while Rhaenyra is a true dragon lord. This relationship is a departure from the book so it will be interesting to watch!
I loved the King gripping Arya’s Cats Paw dagger as he explained the coming Dark Night. With that scene they answered questions we’ve debated for a decade.
When he was young, King Viserys claimed Balerion, who was very old at the time. He rode him once and then not long after Balerion died and Viserys never claimed another dragon.
The wife was his cousin - and the Targaryens always intermarried historically but especially after the Doom of Valyria in order to keep their dragon magick strong…
@@jessaandalexwatch Double in the family, actually, since Visery's parents were full siblings as well. So Rhaenyra has three siblings as grandparents lol
Aemma was Viserys' cousin which is why she has the Arryn name but Targaryen features. The Targaryens still usually practiced incest though. Jaehaerys (the king at the beginning before Viserys) and his wife/sister Alyssane had a bunch of children, and since they were trying to build a closer relationship with the other parts of the realm, they set up more marriages outside the family. I think the only children of theirs that married each other were Baelon and Alyssa (Viserys and Daemon's parents). I'm excited for what they plan to do with Alicent's character and her relationship with Rhaenyra as the show goes on. They're pretty much the two central characters of the Dance in the book (with Daemon coming in as the third after them). It always felt like she wasn't really given a lot of depth in the book and the first episode has me optimistic that they'll go somewhere more complex with her character. Also excited for when we finally get to see Vhagar, the oldest dragon currently alive at the time and the only dragon left from the original Targaryen conquest of westeros.
before anything keep in mind that targaryen are the most incestuous ppl in the history of GOT so you gonna see a lot of kings w sisters etc etc. The show its going to show a lot difficult pregnacies cause one of the reasons of the fall of some kings its cause they get obssesed about wives giving a heir and even after that they keep pressure for more children. Rhaenrya colar in the coronation have every house simbol on it as representantion of loyalty. The Throne is you are not worth it would hurt you, you can see the differents between Daemon and Vicerys, how daemon its practically lean on it and the king almost can move.
I'm pretty sure the "Queen that never was" was meant to imply she should have been queen instead of her brother. She had the strongest legal claim until they decided a junior male heir would always take precedence over a female senior heir.
I feel Daemon say what he say because he already saw how the others wasnt going to make him King and knew his brother would keep fighting for him to become his heir for the throne no matter what. You can tell he cares for his necie...(in anyway anyone want to take the way he cares) If his brother kept fighting for him to become King it would cause them to even have more of a distance relationship and he didn't want that. So at the brothel he say what he say knowing it would get right back to the King so he would instead be push to choose his daughter to become heir then him. The funeral scene makes me think this because he told her "your father need you" and she say "i am not his son. The one who bring him real happiness is gone." . He knew during this moment they need each other. Well i hope this is why lol because after watch the first look of them explain what type of person is Daemon. He will do whatever to keep the family on top. 🤷♀️
I like how you evaluated the characters not at face value and dug deeper into the their expressions, dialogues and symbolisms in the show. Love this reaction.
Damien is a very complex character. Yes he is violent, yes he wants power and he doesn’t think things through completely l, but he also loves his family and he IS loyal to his brother and he does see through the bull crap that has infected the kings court. He will probably be the most interesting character in the show There is a reason why he is the author’s favorite Targaryen.
The targaryens started with incest and plural marriage. Part of Maegor's reign was a revolt against that and the Old King, when he took the throne, abolished plural marriage but got the faith to accept incest. Viserys' wife Aemma is his cousin. She is the daughter of one of the old King's daughters. She was married into the Lord Arryn. So its still keeping it pretty close, lol.
On the throne being uncomfortable: yup! "Aegon I intended for it to be uncomfortable, believing that "a king should never sit easy". Really enjoyed your reaction & discussion, looking forward to the rest of the season! I think you're the first reactors I've seen that pointed out the pep talk scene and Daemon's insecurities. For the incest/plural marriage thing it's actually pretty recent! Aegon I had his two wives and no one really complained, but one of his sons (Maegor the Cruel, he got mentioned at the tourney) went a bit wild and ended up with six wives, the Black Brides. One of them was his nieces Rhaena (who is actually believed to be a lesbian and has a nice little romance with a cool sea farer lady later). The Faith of the Seven didn't like that and rebelled violently (that's where the Faith Militant got their origin). Maegor eventually died on the Iron Throne (either poisoned, killed by one of his wives or by the throne itself) and his nephew Jaehaerys took over. He's the old King at the start of this episode. He married his sister Alysanne (who is probably one of the best characters in extended ASOIAF canon) in secret in defiance of his own mother and the Faith, but ended up spreading the "Doctrine of Exceptionalism" that essentially allowed Targaryens to wed siblings due to being ~special. So, the Targs can 100% do some incest by the time this show rolls around. Plural marriages however are a no-go afaik.
It looks like you folks appreciated the GOT nod with the Aegon dream/prophecy about the Long Night.. and the king holding the "cats-paw" Valerian steel dagger that Arya used to kill the night King with. Interestingly, that "dream" of Aegon's is not written specifically in any of the book(s), but its reported that George RR Martin told this dream story of Aegon's to the show's creators.. and had strong input into the King's dialogue with his daughter over this foreshadowing. So.. its now official "unofficial" canon.
The incest thing has been going on for generations even @ the time of House of the Dragon. Even though they have different last names, doesn't mean they aren't a relation. The men do have a tendency to get around. The husband of Rhaenys is "rumored" to be a cousin or possibly half brother to King Viserys, hence the white hair. That is also why their children have the whitish blonde hair. The Targaryens r very much the Hapsburgs of Game of Thrones. Good reaction ladies.😊
He is not rumored to be anything. The Velaryon family is extremely closely related to the Targaryen family. Aegon I's mother was Valaena Velaryon, Viserys' great-grandmother through Jaehaerys, his grandfather, was Alyssa Velaryon. When there wasn't a Targaryen female for them to marry they married into the Velaryon Family, if they had a female close in age to the Targaryen male they wanted to marry off. And the white hair comes from the fact that the Velaryons, like the Targaryens and Celtigars came from Valyria before the Doom, they just weren't Dragon Lords.
Princess' Rhaenys' husband is Lord Corlys "Sea Snake" Velaryon, probably the most wealthy man in Westeros and one of the most powerful. He is definitely not Viserys' half-brother, but he is a distant relative and they are both of Valyrian ancestry (having silver-white hair). Princess Rhaenys decided she would marry Corlys when she was 16 (and he was quite a bit older, at least in the book) and asked her grandfather, King Jaehaerys, for permission, which he gave. Rhaenys, already a dragon rider, arrived at their wedding on the back of her dragon, Meleys, called "the Red Queen".
Great reaction. I haven’t read Fire & Blood, but remember names from the original series when they spoke of this time period, so that and the trailer gave me a pretty good idea of where this is heading early on. So I’m more curious about who will side with who in that fight. I’m wondering if Otto’s wife had a link to the king with the wear her dress comment, or if it was just a nod to wear something more adult. Either way Otto certainly seems like the Little Finger of the show to me so far. I also really hated the king didn’t even bother to explain to his wife what they had to do to her. I know medieval times, women basically has no voice, but letting her die terrified was awful. It’s tainted him for me. I think I’m going to like Daemon. He seems to be the complicated, misunderstood one and seeing as my fav character in GoT is Jaime Lannister I can see myself rooting for him the same way.
We know that GRRM based this series on 'English History' so I think the scene with the King's 'back problem' is HEARKENING back to the sores Henry the 8th suffered as a result of a 'Tourney' he participated in earlier in his life that never healed.
Oh another thing, this isn't a spoiler since the show cut it, but at the great Council of 101, when Viserys is elected king over Rhaenys, the reason why Daemon isn't there is because he was off rallying troops for in case something were to happen with the succession in case Viserys lost or Rhaenys started some beef. Like he loves his brother and respects him so much, he was willing to go to war at that point to ensure he got the throne. So yeah, there's no doubt Daemon loves him. But I think the show cut that part so that when you're first introduced to Daemon, you're not sure who's side he's on. But of course by the end, you know he's looking out for his brother. Still, seeing Daemon rallying troops to support his brother's claim would've been a cool way to introduce him. Oh well 😅
I absolutely love how violently they portray childbirth because that’s real. Too many shows pretty it up for the big screen. It’s legit like going to battle it seems. I’ve never given birth or witnessed it but I can only imagine.
By this part of the timeline incest in the Targaryen line is definately a thing, Aegon who conquored Westeros did so with his 2 sisters/wives. I think in this show the king and Daemon's parents we siblings if i remeber the book right (but it was a long time ago reading it and forgotten most of it now)
King Viserys and Daemon are brothers, full siblings, the children of Prince Baelon "the Brave", rider of Vhagar, and his sister-wife, Princess Alyssa (rider of Meleys, who is now ridden by Princess Rhaenys). Baelon and Alyssa predeceased their grandparents, King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne, full siblings who had many children.
@@SirGeeSantos Did you not read the books? The house of Velaryon was a valiryan pureblood one, and that means a poc has no place in there. HBO has taken the Netflix/Disney road, checking all those boxes just to please everyone. I feel offended that they had to rape George Martin's original vision that way, because they were too weak to stand by his side and his vision. There, I said my piece, now you can play the race card, I don't give a fuck about a snowflakes' opinion.
The Queen is a Granddaughter of the old king and her husbands cousin. So like a normal amount of incest for royalty, but not like full Targ brother/sister marriage stuff here.
Incest and plural marriage was a custom from Old Valyria. The Targs brought it over but it faded over the centuries due to the Westerosi not liking it.
Love daemon and rhenerya By the way rahnerya isn't gay 😅 she and Alicant are like childhood besties/ had a sister like bonding... (Partners in crime) that's all😂 Otto isn't taywin...he isn't that strong.. he's more like little finger... Shows to have a strong personality like taiwyn Lannister but in reality is like little finger totally
I loved this first episode and it definitly made up for the crap they did in season 8 which to me doesn't exsist. Any way with that being said sadly the way I see things going is that the two friends Alicent and Rhaenyra will eventually go from friends to enemies and thus maybe even try to kill each other at one point or another. I can't wait to see where this is all going and how they will show everything that we know of the family history as well plus I am really looking forward to seeing more dragons I smile everytime they are on screen.
You dear sweet summer children. Remember this innocent video around Season 3. There's a reason I think Jaime and Cersei are secret Targaryens and that's all I'm going to say about that. 😏 PS: subscribed.
Good reaction ladies. In defense of GOT, although I agree that the last 2 seasons of the show were poorly executed/ rushed, I think the reveal of Danny being the true villian of the series was actually a good thing for society. GRRM has stated that GOT is an examination of what it is to truly "rule wisely." In the show there were numerous examples of both good, and terrible leadership styles. By far, the most dangerous type of leader is one that is charismatic, mentally unbalanced, morally compromised, and self entitled (with a seemingly populist ideology). (Sound like someone we all unfortunately know in the real world?) If you re-watch the the first series from the start, you will notice these characteristics in Danny from the start. Danny is the perfect mirror by which to view the more diehard followers of ole' 45. Emotional investment and identification in a bad leader is a hard spell to break.
why does every reactor does not understand the scene with the Baratheon knight and Rhaenys? I get it' s kinda confusing but the dialogue between the Hand and the King after it makes it clear that the disrespect was meant for King Viserys and not Rhaenys
Anyone else getting Vampire Diaries/Salvatore Bros vibes? I think Rhaenys is the Tyrion of this show. It probably won't be completely exact parallel but she's the one overlooked, the strategic one who sees the big picture, the person who drinks and knows things.
Here's my outside the box theory for the rest of the show, having absolutely 0 knowledge of the lore or anything. Matt Smith is the most famous actor on the show, so could that mean that he gets an unceremonious premature death in typical Game of Thrones fashion?
The Iron Throne was specifically designed to be uncomfortable to sit on. Aegon the Conquerer, who designed the throne specifically said "A king should never sit easy in his power"
To be fair, that sounds like the end goal of any chair without cushion. 😆
The dragon skull at the end with Viserys talking to his daughter is Balerion. That dragon helped the Targaryens conquer Westeros. When Viserys was a young man he rode him but Balerion was very old and died shortly after. He never bonded with another dragon and is very wary of dragons.
Mm, interesting. Probably not great to be a dragon king without a dragon!
Balerion was supposed to be the biggest dragon too, so this is like peak dragon time. They eventially got smaller due to being raised in captivity.
In GoT we have a scheming Little Finger. And here we have Otto the middle finger.
I love your comment!
Lol 😂😂
Targaryens have had incestuous marriages for as long as Aegon I the Conqueror and his two sister wives, Visenya and Rhaenys. Since they believe in keeping the bloodline pure because they are the last valyrian family that can control and have special bonds with dragons. Queen Aemma Arynn is actually Viserys' cousin and Rhaenys and Corlys are also related since the Velaryons are close relatives of Targaryens because both houses are of Valyrian descent.
This is awesome, I love that you guys understand Daemon. I seen a lot of casual viewers thinking he's the villain when OBVIOUSLY, Otto is after the throne and doesn't want Daemon to have it because 1. Daemon can't be controlled and 2. Otto would be dismissed as Hand immediately because Daemon sees him for what he is. He's no doubt been crapping on Daemon to the king and misrepresenting things to drive a wedge between them. Yeah, it's no coincidence the queen dies, Otto sends Alicent to visit the king, and Daemon is denounced as heir. Otto is a massive Littlefinger.
I think the best writing is done with shades of grey.
Some of what you write is correct but your analysis is too one sided, just as much as those who say Daemon is Joffrey.
In House of Dragon all the main characters will have good and bad traits, strengths and flaws. Nobody is inherently good or bad.
@@gaborkiss650 I know, they talked about some of that so I didn't mention it. Nobody in this show is purely good or evil. Daemon is one of the more complicated people. So what I said wasn't to make him seem purely good, it was to bring some of the more positive aspects to his character to light. I'm a big fan of Daemon and I loved him in Fire and Blood, what was written about him from the maester's POV. My only point was that he is not Joffrey.
Viserys is the first king without a dragon which adds to this air of weakness. By sending his most powerful and loyal dragonrider away he opens himself to the power hungry crows. Daemon is GRRM's favorite Targ so expect a very interesting character from him! Alicent and Rhaenyra are very very different, this includes Alicent's dislike of dragons while Rhaenyra is a true dragon lord. This relationship is a departure from the book so it will be interesting to watch!
Oh interesting!
@@jessaandalexwatch Did you notice how they used the theme Breaker of Chains when Viserys tells Rhaenyra about Aegon's prophecy
Incest was always there. Aegon the conqueror married both his sisters.
Oh ok, so not a new concept to them then.
I loved the King gripping Arya’s Cats Paw dagger as he explained the coming Dark Night. With that scene they answered questions we’ve debated for a decade.
Matt Smith looks like he's having a blast with this role
When he was young, King Viserys claimed Balerion, who was very old at the time. He rode him once and then not long after Balerion died and Viserys never claimed another dragon.
The wife was his cousin - and the Targaryens always intermarried historically but especially after the Doom of Valyria in order to keep their dragon magick strong…
The birthing scene the Maester mentions they gave her all the milk of the poppy that they could without risking the child. Heartbreaking scene.
Aemma Arryn, the mother, is half Arryn Half Targaryen. Her father was an Arryn and her mother was Rhaelle Targaryen. SO her and Viserys are cousins.
Ah ok, so they are still keeping it in the family. Thus the white-blonde hair!
@@jessaandalexwatch yup 😂.
@@jessaandalexwatch Double in the family, actually, since Visery's parents were full siblings as well. So Rhaenyra has three siblings as grandparents lol
@@saturnine1987 oh yeah you’re right! Rhaelle was Roberts grandmother
Ah Targaryens, Seven bless!
Aemma was Viserys' cousin which is why she has the Arryn name but Targaryen features. The Targaryens still usually practiced incest though. Jaehaerys (the king at the beginning before Viserys) and his wife/sister Alyssane had a bunch of children, and since they were trying to build a closer relationship with the other parts of the realm, they set up more marriages outside the family. I think the only children of theirs that married each other were Baelon and Alyssa (Viserys and Daemon's parents).
I'm excited for what they plan to do with Alicent's character and her relationship with Rhaenyra as the show goes on. They're pretty much the two central characters of the Dance in the book (with Daemon coming in as the third after them). It always felt like she wasn't really given a lot of depth in the book and the first episode has me optimistic that they'll go somewhere more complex with her character.
Also excited for when we finally get to see Vhagar, the oldest dragon currently alive at the time and the only dragon left from the original Targaryen conquest of westeros.
Queen Aemma Arryn's mother was a Targaryen. She and Viserys are cousins who married.
Also Oberyn Martell is a descendant of Daemon Targaryen, so it's cool you noticed some of the parallels lol
before anything keep in mind that targaryen are the most incestuous ppl in the history of GOT so you gonna see a lot of kings w sisters etc etc.
The show its going to show a lot difficult pregnacies cause one of the reasons of the fall of some kings its cause they get obssesed about wives giving a heir and even after that they keep pressure for more children.
Rhaenrya colar in the coronation have every house simbol on it as representantion of loyalty.
The Throne is you are not worth it would hurt you, you can see the differents between Daemon and Vicerys, how daemon its practically lean on it and the king almost can move.
Ooh, good point with Daemon being at ease on the throne.
They said in the books that When the Thorne cuts you it means it's rejecting you.
I'm pretty sure the "Queen that never was" was meant to imply she should have been queen instead of her brother. She had the strongest legal claim until they decided a junior male heir would always take precedence over a female senior heir.
*cousin.
I feel Daemon say what he say because he already saw how the others wasnt going to make him King and knew his brother would keep fighting for him to become his heir for the throne no matter what. You can tell he cares for his necie...(in anyway anyone want to take the way he cares) If his brother kept fighting for him to become King it would cause them to even have more of a distance relationship and he didn't want that. So at the brothel he say what he say knowing it would get right back to the King so he would instead be push to choose his daughter to become heir then him. The funeral scene makes me think this because he told her "your father need you" and she say "i am not his son. The one who bring him real happiness is gone." . He knew during this moment they need each other. Well i hope this is why lol because after watch the first look of them explain what type of person is Daemon. He will do whatever to keep the family on top. 🤷♀️
I like how you evaluated the characters not at face value and dug deeper into the their expressions, dialogues and symbolisms in the show. Love this reaction.
Damien is a very complex character. Yes he is violent, yes he wants power and he doesn’t think things through completely l, but he also loves his family and he IS loyal to his brother and he does see through the bull crap that has infected the kings court. He will probably be the most interesting character in the show
There is a reason why he is the author’s favorite Targaryen.
“What’s the tea between Alicent and her mom?” I think that’s the most important question of this story
The targaryens started with incest and plural marriage. Part of Maegor's reign was a revolt against that and the Old King, when he took the throne, abolished plural marriage but got the faith to accept incest.
Viserys' wife Aemma is his cousin. She is the daughter of one of the old King's daughters. She was married into the Lord Arryn. So its still keeping it pretty close, lol.
"the prince of the city without shoes" is probably how I will always hear that line now. Ha
They should release a House of Targaryen Dragon Scent - Smoke, Ash, Campfire, Ozone (burnt metal), Leather saddle.
On the throne being uncomfortable: yup! "Aegon I intended for it to be uncomfortable, believing that "a king should never sit easy".
Really enjoyed your reaction & discussion, looking forward to the rest of the season! I think you're the first reactors I've seen that pointed out the pep talk scene and Daemon's insecurities.
For the incest/plural marriage thing it's actually pretty recent! Aegon I had his two wives and no one really complained, but one of his sons (Maegor the Cruel, he got mentioned at the tourney) went a bit wild and ended up with six wives, the Black Brides. One of them was his nieces Rhaena (who is actually believed to be a lesbian and has a nice little romance with a cool sea farer lady later). The Faith of the Seven didn't like that and rebelled violently (that's where the Faith Militant got their origin).
Maegor eventually died on the Iron Throne (either poisoned, killed by one of his wives or by the throne itself) and his nephew Jaehaerys took over. He's the old King at the start of this episode. He married his sister Alysanne (who is probably one of the best characters in extended ASOIAF canon) in secret in defiance of his own mother and the Faith, but ended up spreading the "Doctrine of Exceptionalism" that essentially allowed Targaryens to wed siblings due to being ~special.
So, the Targs can 100% do some incest by the time this show rolls around. Plural marriages however are a no-go afaik.
Thank you!!
It looks like you folks appreciated the GOT nod with the Aegon dream/prophecy about the Long Night.. and the king holding the "cats-paw" Valerian steel dagger that Arya used to kill the night King with.
Interestingly, that "dream" of Aegon's is not written specifically in any of the book(s), but its reported that George RR Martin told this dream story of Aegon's to the show's creators.. and had strong input into the King's dialogue with his daughter over this foreshadowing. So.. its now official "unofficial" canon.
Really interesting to see how that affects Winds of Winter (if… you know…)
Lovely reaction! Thanks ladies! ❤
The incest thing has been going on for generations even @ the time of House of the Dragon. Even though they have different last names, doesn't mean they aren't a relation. The men do have a tendency to get around. The husband of Rhaenys is "rumored" to be a cousin or possibly half brother to King Viserys, hence the white hair. That is also why their children have the whitish blonde hair. The Targaryens r very much the Hapsburgs of Game of Thrones. Good reaction ladies.😊
He is not rumored to be anything. The Velaryon family is extremely closely related to the Targaryen family. Aegon I's mother was Valaena Velaryon, Viserys' great-grandmother through Jaehaerys, his grandfather, was Alyssa Velaryon. When there wasn't a Targaryen female for them to marry they married into the Velaryon Family, if they had a female close in age to the Targaryen male they wanted to marry off. And the white hair comes from the fact that the Velaryons, like the Targaryens and Celtigars came from Valyria before the Doom, they just weren't Dragon Lords.
Princess' Rhaenys' husband is Lord Corlys "Sea Snake" Velaryon, probably the most wealthy man in Westeros and one of the most powerful. He is definitely not Viserys' half-brother, but he is a distant relative and they are both of Valyrian ancestry (having silver-white hair). Princess Rhaenys decided she would marry Corlys when she was 16 (and he was quite a bit older, at least in the book) and asked her grandfather, King Jaehaerys, for permission, which he gave. Rhaenys, already a dragon rider, arrived at their wedding on the back of her dragon, Meleys, called "the Red Queen".
@@gailf1617 I am going by the lore I've seen. I know who Rhaenys' husband is. Although I have the book, I have not read it yet.
This is the first thing I’ve ever seen with Matt Smith. He’s a good actor.
Great reaction. I haven’t read Fire & Blood, but remember names from the original series when they spoke of this time period, so that and the trailer gave me a pretty good idea of where this is heading early on. So I’m more curious about who will side with who in that fight. I’m wondering if Otto’s wife had a link to the king with the wear her dress comment, or if it was just a nod to wear something more adult. Either way Otto certainly seems like the Little Finger of the show to me so far. I also really hated the king didn’t even bother to explain to his wife what they had to do to her. I know medieval times, women basically has no voice, but letting her die terrified was awful. It’s tainted him for me. I think I’m going to like Daemon. He seems to be the complicated, misunderstood one and seeing as my fav character in GoT is Jaime Lannister I can see myself rooting for him the same way.
Oh yeah, I can definitely see the Jaime parallels. Him sitting on the throne when Rhaenyra walked in, just like Jaime and Ned!
I hated him until I started watching reaction videos. That’s why I love this genre of entertainment ❤
We know that GRRM based this series on 'English History' so I think the scene with the King's 'back problem' is HEARKENING back to the sores Henry the 8th suffered as a result of a 'Tourney' he participated in earlier in his life that never healed.
It’s an omen if the throne cuts you your no longer fit to be king. One Targaryen dies on the throne slices an artery or some shit
Oh another thing, this isn't a spoiler since the show cut it, but at the great Council of 101, when Viserys is elected king over Rhaenys, the reason why Daemon isn't there is because he was off rallying troops for in case something were to happen with the succession in case Viserys lost or Rhaenys started some beef. Like he loves his brother and respects him so much, he was willing to go to war at that point to ensure he got the throne. So yeah, there's no doubt Daemon loves him. But I think the show cut that part so that when you're first introduced to Daemon, you're not sure who's side he's on. But of course by the end, you know he's looking out for his brother. Still, seeing Daemon rallying troops to support his brother's claim would've been a cool way to introduce him. Oh well 😅
I absolutely love how violently they portray childbirth because that’s real. Too many shows pretty it up for the big screen. It’s legit like going to battle it seems. I’ve never given birth or witnessed it but I can only imagine.
Aemma’s mother was a Targ, so still incesty. That was defo around, Aegon conquered Westeros with his two sister wives.
I love the faces you make when someone does something suspicious or incest-y
Wow, seeing through Otto's plot in ep1! Only in ep did I realize that nominating Rhaenyra was also part of his plan!
By this part of the timeline incest in the Targaryen line is definately a thing, Aegon who conquored Westeros did so with his 2 sisters/wives. I think in this show the king and Daemon's parents we siblings if i remeber the book right (but it was a long time ago reading it and forgotten most of it now)
King Viserys and Daemon are brothers, full siblings, the children of Prince Baelon "the Brave", rider of Vhagar, and his sister-wife, Princess Alyssa (rider of Meleys, who is now ridden by Princess Rhaenys). Baelon and Alyssa predeceased their grandparents, King Jaehaerys and Queen Alysanne, full siblings who had many children.
This is inspired by The Anarchy between Empress Matilda and Stephen... 😊😊🙏🙏
i can sense we're all gonna love rhaenys and corlys relationship over here
wat
@@Cavpal wat wat
@@SirGeeSantos Did you not read the books? The house of Velaryon was a valiryan pureblood one, and that means a poc has no place in there. HBO has taken the Netflix/Disney road, checking all those boxes just to please everyone. I feel offended that they had to rape George Martin's original vision that way, because they were too weak to stand by his side and his vision.
There, I said my piece, now you can play the race card, I don't give a fuck about a snowflakes' opinion.
Great reaction ❤️
The Queen is a Granddaughter of the old king and her husbands cousin.
So like a normal amount of incest for royalty, but not like full Targ brother/sister marriage stuff here.
Something you should know the book says about the iron throne is this: if you get cut by the throne you and your line is cursed. Welp…
Rhaenyra's clothes at the end seem kind of byzantine inspired to me
Incest and plural marriage was a custom from Old Valyria. The Targs brought it over but it faded over the centuries due to the Westerosi not liking it.
Grogu is too young to watch any GoT content.
I used to joust but I don't like having a horse if I can't live at the same property with it.
The queen is Rhaenyra's mother/cousin
Love daemon and rhenerya
By the way rahnerya isn't gay 😅 she and Alicant are like childhood besties/ had a sister like bonding... (Partners in crime) that's all😂
Otto isn't taywin...he isn't that strong.. he's more like little finger...
Shows to have a strong personality like taiwyn Lannister but in reality is like little finger totally
I loved this first episode and it definitly made up for the crap they did in season 8 which to me doesn't exsist. Any way with that being said sadly the way I see things going is that the two friends Alicent and Rhaenyra will eventually go from friends to enemies and thus maybe even try to kill each other at one point or another. I can't wait to see where this is all going and how they will show everything that we know of the family history as well plus I am really looking forward to seeing more dragons I smile everytime they are on screen.
You dear sweet summer children. Remember this innocent video around Season 3. There's a reason I think Jaime and Cersei are secret Targaryens and that's all I'm going to say about that. 😏
PS: subscribed.
Game of Thrones really desensitized ALL of us to incest, huh?
Lmaoo
Good reaction ladies. In defense of GOT, although I agree that the last 2 seasons of the show were poorly executed/ rushed, I think the reveal of Danny being the true villian of the series was actually a good thing for society. GRRM has stated that GOT is an examination of what it is to truly "rule wisely." In the show there were numerous examples of both good, and terrible leadership styles. By far, the most dangerous type of leader is one that is charismatic, mentally unbalanced, morally compromised, and self entitled (with a seemingly populist ideology). (Sound like someone we all unfortunately know in the real world?) If you re-watch the the first series from the start, you will notice these characteristics in Danny from the start. Danny is the perfect mirror by which to view the more diehard followers of ole' 45. Emotional investment and identification in a bad leader is a hard spell to break.
why does every reactor does not understand the scene with the Baratheon knight and Rhaenys? I get it' s kinda confusing but the dialogue between the Hand and the King after it makes it clear that the disrespect was meant for King Viserys and not Rhaenys
They're standing in front of the skull of his dragon
Shit, am I going to have to watch this now? If this and the Rings show are actually good this is going to be a lot of swords in my weekly diet.
There is no "IF"
Ah yes, the new HBO series where the family tree is a circle.
You guys should watch "Dickinson" you'll love it❤️
Ooh we LOVE that show!! So good.
@@jessaandalexwatch i would love to see your reactions to that😭
I wish we had more time, cause there are so many amazing shows we’d love to react to!! (Hiiiighly recommend AMC’s Interview With the Vampire.)
the king doesnt have a dragon he only had belerion for a short time until he died of old age that was his skull
Daemon is awesome, he's the only one looking out for House Targaryen. Otto gives me Littlefinger vibes, certainly not Tywin.
It's Byzantine inspired actually
I wonder if Melisandre will turn up!
Anyone else getting Vampire Diaries/Salvatore Bros vibes? I think Rhaenys is the Tyrion of this show. It probably won't be completely exact parallel but she's the one overlooked, the strategic one who sees the big picture, the person who drinks and knows things.
I’ve been saying, it’s upsetting rooting for another bad Da(e)mon!
@@jessaandalexwatch We can only take so much!
Yes! Matt Smith was the best Doctor.
Daemon reminds me of Ramsey Bolton😅🔥
daemon is a complicated character. But he is definitely not like Ramsey. He is more of a Jamie Lannister.
For sure! But I do see the similarities in acting choices.
I disagree. Damien has a loyalty to his family that Ramsey would never have.
Jamie Lannister / Oberyn Martell
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Here's my outside the box theory for the rest of the show, having absolutely 0 knowledge of the lore or anything. Matt Smith is the most famous actor on the show, so could that mean that he gets an unceremonious premature death in typical Game of Thrones fashion?
Dragons smell like peanut butter.
Symbolism.