I’ve been to sales training classes and it’s zombies teaching BS saying it’s your job as a salesman to take as much money as possible from a customers wallet. They’re literally drunk with greed
They are that much ? Don’t do dodge/ram products… screw that, you can get the newly redesigned 24’ Acadia Denali for like 60k and it is a beautiful suv…
@@cocochanel6495not totally true. There were a lot of things going on before Stellantis was established the general public doesn't know about, and workers refuse to talk about. Spent 5 years as an electrician for them at JNAP. The company was already dropping the ball at the tail end of FCA.
Started at my CDJR dealership back in May, we have had the same 2 Hornets since I started 😂 I’ve been making good money… but also I’m the only one in the store making decent money. Selling at a big disadvantage with Stellantis products sadly
The CEO getting a 50% raise means that he's doing what Stellantis wants him to do. They might have different goals than you think regarding these American vehicle makes.
Stellantis made grave mistakes, Killing SRT, No V8 Option on Ram Trucks, Price Hiking, Dial Shifter on Ram Trucks! Weak old V6 Engine on Jeeps, Slow refresh cycles! Pushing EV garbage!
That's because it's loaded with crappy parts and the chassis from an Alfa Romeo. Don't touch it. Italian cars are never known for their quality or reliability...
@@BlakWiseCracker I'm voting Democrat so my whole family can come here, we finding super cheap property in American inner cities, just have to push the current slaves off the property but that's not hard because they aren't hard like where we come from. 🙂
@@louiscongionti2394brother THANK YOU!!!!! I swear every year when I hear about the latest "oooohhhhh shiny" gadget on these things all I think is just more crap that can fail.
@@ah-yp6vp Uh no. I've had a Lexus IS 250 for 17 years which I bought brand new. These cars are bullet proof. I can drive my IS 250 for another 17 years without a problem too.
Pickup trucks used to be utility work vehicles and were affordable, now they cost as much as a house used to. How the f did we get to this point, insane!!
They should go out of business. Their problem if they make vehicles that are so unreliable and low-quality. And Stellantis talks to the retaliating dealers like Stellantis is not the problem. What a bunch of greed. They give me K-Mart/Sears vibes.
Yes Corporations can afford to let these cars sit on the lot. They would rather crush unsold cars and write them off than sell to the public at a discount.
@@WheelsandWallets not one person was around. Sales guy came out and we were laughing. He wanted to know why, I said all the markups are insane. He said we could talk to the manager; lol. Even the 2023 leftovers had a 10k markup. They were trying to charge up two wagoneers, batteries dead from sitting so long. Not much luck on starting them.
UAW greed is to blame for some of it . All the big 3 has more people collecting a pension than they have people working on the floor . They make all their money off service and the substandard parts supplied by CHINA !
I’ve been watching these vehicle manufacturers get bailouts and rip customers off for years and it’s time for them to experience the true cause and effect of poor management; let them fail and disappear to make room for a new competitor that can offer something people actually want.
The Stellantis CEO clearly forgot the type of men in particular, who buy these RAM Trucks and if it doesn't have the Hemi underneath, you're getting their attention. A Turbocharged V6 does not spark a charge towards a man's Testosterone levels while being expected to pay $70k or more a High Trim level pickup with no V8, some people may buy if the price were to dramatically drop, but for those who want that true raw power, they won't waste a dime.
Raymond your absolute correct, the new trucks are beautiful but I will not get rid of my 4th gen 5.7 hemi for the new 6 cylinder truck, they would have to give me one for free because I wouldn’t spend a dime of my hard working money paying for one.
It's not a V6, it's an inline 6. There's a difference,. BMW uses an inline 6 turbo for almost every vehicle in their lineup, from the compact 2series and sporty m3/m4 to the massive X7/XM it's a great scalable engine if it's done right
My local dealer put me in a new 2025 Ram loaner while my 2020 Ram was in the shop, after driving the 2025 for 2 days I bought a 2025 with the new engine. The 3.0 blows away my Hemi Ram so far, now I need to sell my 2020 👍
They need to bring back the Dodge avengers and Chrysler 200s. Those are affordable cars the market is screaming for! If I'm paying $50 k for a car (which I never will) it's gonna be a super luxurious BMW or Mercedes not a CDJR product 😂
Including myself, we have zero clue what it's like to manufacture and sell vehicles. I wouldn't even know where to begin. What I can tell you is if I was responsible for it, I wouldn't allow 1 of these Dodge, Ram, Jeep Chrysler vehicles to be sold to anyone. I'd be tortured with the fact I've allowed overpriced garbage to be sold to people.
I live in Tulsa, OK, and bought a new 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT, 4.7L engine. Still driving it after 22 years. It gets regular service, and I repair anything that needs it. Just at 160,000 miles and it will outlast me. I’ve got a great mechanic shop that keeps it in top running shape. The owner of the shop,told,me do not buy a new Dodge pickup. Just keep mine going and that’s what I plan on doing. When I’m no longer able to drive, I’ll pass it down to a family member and they’ll drive it until it falls apart.
Keep putting out this information. Vehicles are highly overpriced and unreliable. Hopefully if enough of us keep complaining they will eventually listen, but it seems like a pipe dream.
How is the i6 “known to be unreliable” if they’ve only just come out in the Rams? They’ve been doing just fine in the Wagoneers for the last couple years.
I'd hate to see Chrysler, Dodge and/or Ram die off but they seem to working hard at it. Chrysler saddens me the most; the company most famous for its luxury sedans now has one vehicle in its line up...a minivan. Sigh.
I obtained a 2021 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi eTorque. It has become one of my favorite drivelines of the many vehicles I have owned over the years. Very responsive, very smooth, and plenty of power. It was shocking to hear they were dropping the V-8, and now even more shocking to hear that they may completely drop the RAM line.
A buddy bought a Wagoner in canada last winter 100000 dollar vehicle, drove 6weeks and the turbo grenaded took out the whole engine. Waited 7 mths and got a 5 seater basement ram the whole time while paying 1300 per month, hes gonna try and unload it but its deprecated so much already!
I have a 2017 ram big horn I bought new. I actually have annual chassis undercoat inspections on my UA-cam channel. I have had zero problems with my ram. It has the big motor crew cab 4 x 4… in 2017, the list price on my truck was $49,400 before tax. I bounced from dealer to dealer Getting them to compete for my business. I ended up getting my truck for $39,800 out the door including sales tax. I take care of my vehicles. The first new truck/van I bought, I drove it for 31 years, the remarkable point of that is, I live in Western Pennsylvania, where they throw salt on the roads for months of the year. So you must take care of your corrosion protection here.. cars, trucks, houses, people, bridges, they don’t wear around as much as they are neglected to death.. maintenance is expensive . but that which ought to be done and isn’t,-- is more expensive..
Yes, it will because here in all of Europe, we need cars that do not consume much gas. You all do not understand that those V8s just do not fit our needs.
@Dotir congrats to you, but as gas prices are so high and most people dont wanna afford that because it it just hillarious expensive it will never be for the majority of people
@dariojob100 that's these people fault. They vote for people like Macron or Ursula Von Den Layer, so they need to starve paying ton of money for fuel. My 5.7 HEMI in Durango is running LPG, so I spend similar money for fuel like my friend in Merc E class 3.0 diesel.
It’s all by design. Stellantis will whine and complain it’s a UAW and us manufacturing here in the u.s. big plan here is to move all production out of the u.s.
It’s the government push against the internal combustion engine, they keep raising the mileage standards and forcing manufacturers to cram smaller engines in their vehicles.
It's more about Stellantis and it's leadership. The Hemi was old and underpowered, and inefficient compared Ford and GM's V8 offerings. They desperately needed a whole new V8 architecture but Stellantis wasn't interested in spending the Billions of dollars nessesary for a motor that would only be relevant in the US market. Certainly efficiency standards are a factor, but it's also cost cutting mixed with European executives ignorance of the US market.
@@dcl97 The questionable reliability aside on the new I6, it's performance numbers bury the Hemi on all fronts. 540 horsepower and 521 lb.-ft. of torque
I went to a Phoenix ram jeep Mopar dealer to look at a used Toyota van. They were drowning in inventory. Lots of everything they make. The older salesman was totally defeated.
Unfortunately this issue exists right now with the majority of brands. Everything is double the price of what it should be… our wages did not double. Home prices, groceries, and vehicles did…
True story. In 2019 I bought a RAM 2500 Laramie limited with the Cummins for $63k out the door. Loaded and capable. What’s happened to truck prices is crazy.
Anyone talking about Ram/Jeep/Chrysler and talking about "reliability" is ridiculous. The Hemi wasn't reliable the moment they did the MDS system. Turbo 6 cylinders dependability 100% depends on service. Don't follow "recommended" service intervals, follow "Severe" service intervals and it'll last for a long ass time.
I have 217k on my 2010 Ram 1500 crew cab 4x4 with the 5.7 hemi and it’s been pretty reliable besides changing the alternator and stater once, and one fuel pump. I had to change the exhaust manifold bolts once, but besides that it has been a good truck, simple grip shifter in the center console and not that electric knob on the newer ones.
In 03 l walked into a Chevy dealer, they had 0% interest, l drove out in a brand new basic trim Suburban ,60 payments of 700.00 no down payment, went back a couple of years later and bought a new Chevy Cobalt for my daughter in the low 20’s, those were the happy days of car shopping.
It’ll be sad if they do go under but this should send a message to Wall Street that if you know nothing about your products you have no business being in charge. Making products that people want and can afford is more important than bigger profits.
It's not inflation, it's greedflation. I have never seen a car with 300 days to sell, turned from a new car to a used car while sitting and deteriorating on the lot.
Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Worked for GM in 2009. Shareholders are wiped out, Creditors are scalped. A year later the company comes out of chapter 11 and issues new shares for new money. GM is still around.
It pretty much is a built turbo but inline six, which is superior to a V. People bashing it don't even understand the output numbers on those things, it crushes the Hemi. And this is coming from a Hemi owner. The output on the new I6 is beyond what anyone would need, it's a baby cummins on gas. 540 horsepower and 521 lb.-ft. of torque
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 it has forged internals and it's assembled by robots at the factory ready for mods, there are already several with well over 1,000hp. No monkey at home is going to build it better
Just tried to buy a gladiator, they had 68 at a local dealer. The sales manager was a total donut and didn't even try to make a sale. Good I hope they go under
kkkkkkkkk here in brazil an ram 2500 costs more than half million reais (brazilian currency) and people are paying (an f-150 costs almost the same amount here)... you guys at north america are in heaven!
I work for stellantis customer care and I can say that these people know there are issues with 2024 and 2025 vehicles aswell, there are cost cutting at the engineering level which is effecting on how they design or upgrade the parts. Man these people literally putting a part which know has issues, they know it goes bad withing 3 months yet they put it in there 2025 vehicles and selling to consumers. No fix for these ABS modules, catalytic converters, Radios etc it's trash. Now they even tell us to not give any cost assistance or buybacks for even newer vehicles. I have customer waiting for a damn abs module update since a year and we have to deal with there ordeal as middle man and we do not get any answers on what to respond to these people.
These dealerships go into bankruptcy one after another, the piled up vehicles will go into auction, or firesale at 35 - 40% discount, or more. Nobody should buy these vehicles at these inflated prices at all. Half price when one can consider them, but even then the reputation, the build quality, the quality of the materials used etc. are all in question. A lot of them will be crashed brand new. Mark my word.
Dealerships: "Customers love the Hemi V8 in the trucks and cars". Stellantis CEO: "Okay great, let's discontinue the motor and sell a V6 nobody wants". 🤢
I'm just glad that I was never a car person nor did I was into cars nor did I owned a car so having a car note doesn't exist in my world. I already knew since I was a kid that owning & maintaining one of these vehicles will really cost you a small fortune on top of owning a house and no wondering that the Majority of Americans are Dead Broke and have absolutely no emergency fund money of @ least $1K in cases of accidental something...
Since most phones can do half of the things that a car has built in, that's one of many things that could be cut back on. And not everyone needs a cab. More bed would be better use of space.
$53,000 for a 1.3L Hornet is absolutely insane. They really think highly of their vehicles.
I’ve been to sales training classes and it’s zombies teaching BS saying it’s your job as a salesman to take as much money as possible from a customers wallet. They’re literally drunk with greed
They are that much ? Don’t do dodge/ram products… screw that, you can get the newly redesigned 24’ Acadia Denali for like 60k and it is a beautiful suv…
I paid 55k for my genesis gv70 with a 3.5 tt v6 it does 0to60 in 4.6 seconds
Should be 30k wtf
30k yeah right maybe now,, i bought it in 2021
How Stellantis responded to dealers recently is giving me K-Mart/Sears vibes. A bunch of greed and ignorance before the big collapse.
Yep: I bought my Jeep Patriot in 2016 for 21K. Will never pay more, ever.
Very good analogy. Everything was fine until it wasn't.
@@cocochanel6495not totally true. There were a lot of things going on before Stellantis was established the general public doesn't know about, and workers refuse to talk about. Spent 5 years as an electrician for them at JNAP. The company was already dropping the ball at the tail end of FCA.
I wouldn’t pay 21,000 for a vehicle 😂😂😂
Blue light specials coming at the end of the year
They are over priced, unreliable and they are going to go out of business if they keep this model up
They wonr, government will bail them out and give politicians some cash under the table kickbacks. Money laundering 101
I am a witness.
@@rodseller9936 And I am your witness 👊🏾
A 1.3L for 50 large!?! Someone at dodge smoking crack
You mean they’re smoking Meth” those types are Pickett fence people. Therefore Methhead” are more appropriate..”
BMW 2024 some models are the same price!
Crack with PCP mixed in!
They have been since the 1990s
Year supply on the hornet and they still want $50k LOL they deserve what they get.
👍
Started at my CDJR dealership back in May, we have had the same 2 Hornets since I started 😂 I’ve been making good money… but also I’m the only one in the store making decent money. Selling at a big disadvantage with Stellantis products sadly
The CEO getting a 50% raise means that he's doing what Stellantis wants him to do. They might have different goals than you think regarding these American vehicle makes.
This has to be planned. I don’t believe this is simply poor management.
Stellantis made grave mistakes, Killing SRT, No V8 Option on Ram Trucks, Price Hiking, Dial Shifter on Ram Trucks! Weak old V6 Engine on Jeeps, Slow refresh cycles! Pushing EV garbage!
Got rid of trackhawk
Got rid of 1500 ram first level trim
The new Toyotas and Tacomas are having problems they never had before.
Insane.
I don’t think most truck buyers care about having the latest and greatest, the 4th Gen ram sold its best in its final years
$52k for a crappy little Hornet?! 😱
Crazy
That's because it's loaded with crappy parts and the chassis from an Alfa Romeo. Don't touch it. Italian cars are never known for their quality or reliability...
@@largol33t1 Years ago, I owned a Fiat. I was on a first-name basis with the repair shop.
They ran out of fools to buy their overpriced cars/trucks
Exactly just like Trump is running out of fools to vote for him. 🙇♂️
Your ignorance is astounding
@@BlakWiseCracker I'm voting Democrat so my whole family can come here, we finding super cheap property in American inner cities, just have to push the current slaves off the property but that's not hard because they aren't hard like where we come from. 🙂
Our tax dollars better not save them.
I don’t know if they will because it’s a European company
$50K for that Hornet is absolutely laughable
with 1,3L ....
Should Be Upper 20s MAX!!!!😎😎😎😎😎
Who wants to pay top dollar for garbage quality?
people like there Ram trucks . problem is to much technology and options . vehicles think for us now
@@louiscongionti2394brother THANK YOU!!!!! I swear every year when I hear about the latest "oooohhhhh shiny" gadget on these things all I think is just more crap that can fail.
Stellantis could lower their prices 90% and I still wouldn’t touch their cars with a 10 foot pole
Just buy a 90-07 Chevrolet truck.
Will run 3-400k 👍
My 2008 had an sts turbo and still perfect compression after 50k miles. 5.3 liter
LIKE A ROCK
@@ThisisForTheTV not all of us are ghetto and want to drive a 30 year old truck
87-96 fords much better
Damn I purchased my 2024 Lexus IS350 for $54000! Crazy that a Dodge is the same price.
That lexus gonna be a money pit!!
@@ah-yp6vp why? It’s the most reliable brand.
@@ah-yp6vp Uh no. I've had a Lexus IS 250 for 17 years which I bought brand new. These cars are bullet proof. I can drive my IS 250 for another 17 years without a problem too.
Lexus is such trash and outdated cars
@@tobindrake2767yeah that is 17 years old. Why do people think that new cars are the same?
Pickup trucks used to be utility work vehicles and were affordable, now they cost as much as a house used to. How the f did we get to this point, insane!!
They should go out of business.
Their problem if they make vehicles that are so unreliable and low-quality.
And Stellantis talks to the retaliating dealers like Stellantis is not the problem. What a bunch of greed. They give me K-Mart/Sears vibes.
Yes Corporations can afford to let these cars sit on the lot. They would rather crush unsold cars and write them off than sell to the public at a discount.
I work at a CDJR dealership. We have 3 Hornets in stock, and since August of 23, we have only sold one.
Who bought that one car?
$71,000 for 3.0L 6 cyl twin turbo; $52,000 for 1.3L 4 cyl turbo ~~ fuhgeddaboudit 👎
Had a 25. Nothing but issues.
NJ we saw on vacation, every Jeep, Dodge Ram had a 10k extra added. How is this possible?
That’s crazy I don’t know how they’re selling
GREEN tax global warming taxes
@@WheelsandWallets not one person was around. Sales guy came out and we were laughing. He wanted to know why, I said all the markups are insane. He said we could talk to the manager; lol. Even the 2023 leftovers had a 10k markup. They were trying to charge up two wagoneers, batteries dead from sitting so long. Not much luck on starting them.
UAW greed is to blame for some of it . All the big 3 has more people collecting a pension than they have people working on the floor . They make all their money off service and the substandard parts supplied by CHINA !
@@bobwreck3775False. It’s price gouging.
I’ve been watching these vehicle manufacturers get bailouts and rip customers off for years and it’s time for them to experience the true cause and effect of poor management; let them fail and disappear to make room for a new competitor that can offer something people actually want.
The Stellantis CEO clearly forgot the type of men in particular, who buy these RAM Trucks and if it doesn't have the Hemi underneath, you're getting their attention. A Turbocharged V6 does not spark a charge towards a man's Testosterone levels while being expected to pay $70k or more a High Trim level pickup with no V8, some people may buy if the price were to dramatically drop, but for those who want that true raw power, they won't waste a dime.
Raymond your absolute correct, the new trucks are beautiful but I will not get rid of my 4th gen 5.7 hemi for the new 6 cylinder truck, they would have to give me one for free because I wouldn’t spend a dime of my hard working money paying for one.
I dunno, my BMW does pretty well with a turbo 6 😂
It's not a V6, it's an inline 6. There's a difference,. BMW uses an inline 6 turbo for almost every vehicle in their lineup, from the compact 2series and sporty m3/m4 to the massive X7/XM it's a great scalable engine if it's done right
Ford has 6 cylinder pickups, and most people are okay with that
I hope they don’t get bailed out like before. If the ceo gets a pay raise for running the company into the ground that’s where it should stay.
We never bailed out European car companies.
My local dealer put me in a new 2025 Ram loaner while my 2020 Ram was in the shop, after driving the 2025 for 2 days I bought a 2025 with the new engine. The 3.0 blows away my Hemi Ram so far, now I need to sell my 2020 👍
Bought a new one and didn't trade in so now you need to sell, yep sounds believable
@@shaneking7419 I have a 21 Rebel I'm taking in for service, I'll see if I can get a new loaner. I want to drive the 6 cylinder. Looks solid on paper
That 50k Hornet isn't worth more than 30k but of course, Stellantis doing Stellantis things.
The Hornet is a vehicle not worth $22,000 and it having a 1.3 liter. What is a 1.3 liter a lawn mower zero turn engine.
@@James-dc7ur More like 18,250
It's not just Chrysler. The whole American auto industry is going down the shute. The commercial trucking industry will be next.
Stellantis isn’t American.
I think with their quality nobody will miss them. Btw nothing will get cheaper, the system isn't designed that way.
When’s the fire sale
Never going to happen. I gave up shopping for a new car over a YEAR ago.
They need to bring back the Dodge avengers and Chrysler 200s. Those are affordable cars the market is screaming for! If I'm paying $50 k for a car (which I never will) it's gonna be a super luxurious BMW or Mercedes not a CDJR product 😂
Um, you know they're going still make the Avenger cost $55k if they bring it back...
Including myself, we have zero clue what it's like to manufacture and sell vehicles. I wouldn't even know where to begin. What I can tell you is if I was responsible for it, I wouldn't allow 1 of these Dodge, Ram, Jeep Chrysler vehicles to be sold to anyone. I'd be tortured with the fact I've allowed overpriced garbage to be sold to people.
I live in Tulsa, OK, and bought a new 2002 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT, 4.7L engine. Still driving it after 22 years. It gets regular service, and I repair anything that needs it. Just at 160,000 miles and it will outlast me. I’ve got a great mechanic shop that keeps it in top running shape. The owner of the shop,told,me do not buy a new Dodge pickup. Just keep mine going and that’s what I plan on doing.
When I’m no longer able to drive, I’ll pass it down to a family member and they’ll drive it until it falls apart.
Keep putting out this information. Vehicles are highly overpriced and unreliable. Hopefully if enough of us keep complaining they will eventually listen, but it seems like a pipe dream.
How is the i6 “known to be unreliable” if they’ve only just come out in the Rams? They’ve been doing just fine in the Wagoneers for the last couple years.
Because it’s made by Dodge!!! That’s how we know it’s unreliable
Yeah way better then the V8s
The EPA has fined Ram hundreds of millions of dollars because of V-8's. Lets be mad at the EPA instead.
I traded in my 2023 highlander with the 4cly turbo nothing but junk was in and out of shop.
23 XSE here and no issues with 21k miles already .
Yota fanboys think very highly of their vehicles and of themselves!
I'd hate to see Chrysler, Dodge and/or Ram die off but they seem to working hard at it.
Chrysler saddens me the most; the company most famous for its luxury sedans now has one vehicle in its line up...a minivan. Sigh.
Angering me😤😡😡😡😡
I obtained a 2021 Ram 1500 5.7L Hemi eTorque. It has become one of my favorite drivelines of the many vehicles I have owned over the years. Very responsive, very smooth, and plenty of power. It was shocking to hear they were dropping the V-8, and now even more shocking to hear that they may completely drop the RAM line.
A buddy bought a Wagoner in canada last winter 100000 dollar vehicle, drove 6weeks and the turbo grenaded took out the whole engine. Waited 7 mths and got a 5 seater basement ram the whole time while paying 1300 per month, hes gonna try and unload it but its deprecated so much already!
I have a 2017 ram big horn I bought new. I actually have annual chassis undercoat inspections on my UA-cam channel. I have had zero problems with my ram. It has the big motor crew cab 4 x 4…
in 2017, the list price on my truck was $49,400 before tax.
I bounced from dealer to dealer Getting them to compete for my business. I ended up getting my truck for $39,800 out the door including sales tax.
I take care of my vehicles. The first new truck/van I bought, I drove it for 31 years, the remarkable point of that is, I live in Western Pennsylvania, where they throw salt on the roads for months of the year. So you must take care of your corrosion protection here..
cars, trucks, houses, people, bridges, they don’t wear around as much as they are neglected to death..
maintenance is expensive .
but that which ought to be done and isn’t,-- is more expensive..
Yes, it will because here in all of Europe, we need cars that do not consume much gas. You all do not understand that those V8s just do not fit our needs.
I live in Europe and love my Hemi 5.7. I will not replace it for shitty EV or diesel.
@Dotir congrats to you, but as gas prices are so high and most people dont wanna afford that because it it just hillarious expensive it will never be for the majority of people
@dariojob100 that's these people fault. They vote for people like Macron or Ursula Von Den Layer, so they need to starve paying ton of money for fuel. My 5.7 HEMI in Durango is running LPG, so I spend similar money for fuel like my friend in Merc E class 3.0 diesel.
It’s all by design. Stellantis will whine and complain it’s a UAW and us manufacturing here in the u.s. big plan here is to move all production out of the u.s.
It’s the government push against the internal combustion engine, they keep raising the mileage standards and forcing manufacturers to cram smaller engines in their vehicles.
It's more about Stellantis and it's leadership. The Hemi was old and underpowered, and inefficient compared Ford and GM's V8 offerings. They desperately needed a whole new V8 architecture but Stellantis wasn't interested in spending the Billions of dollars nessesary for a motor that would only be relevant in the US market. Certainly efficiency standards are a factor, but it's also cost cutting mixed with European executives ignorance of the US market.
@@dcl97 The questionable reliability aside on the new I6, it's performance numbers bury the Hemi on all fronts. 540 horsepower and 521 lb.-ft. of torque
True
I went to a Phoenix ram jeep Mopar dealer to look at a used Toyota van. They were drowning in inventory. Lots of everything they make. The older salesman was totally defeated.
Unfortunately this issue exists right now with the majority of brands. Everything is double the price of what it should be… our wages did not double. Home prices, groceries, and vehicles did…
True story. In 2019 I bought a RAM 2500 Laramie limited with the Cummins for $63k out the door. Loaded and capable. What’s happened to truck prices is crazy.
Yep. Now you can't even get a 6cyl gas for that
Sounds about right. My old coworker got his Ram Rebel before covid I think for 45k. Now it's 65 or something. Ridiculous
I had 3 rams just went to a GMC Sierra. The new 2500 Laramie package didn’t even come with running boards. $70k + truck.
Great video. Thank you. Please keep it up
Anyone talking about Ram/Jeep/Chrysler and talking about "reliability" is ridiculous. The Hemi wasn't reliable the moment they did the MDS system. Turbo 6 cylinders dependability 100% depends on service. Don't follow "recommended" service intervals, follow "Severe" service intervals and it'll last for a long ass time.
I have 217k on my 2010 Ram 1500 crew cab 4x4 with the 5.7 hemi and it’s been pretty reliable besides changing the alternator and stater once, and one fuel pump. I had to change the exhaust manifold bolts once, but besides that it has been a good truck, simple grip shifter in the center console and not that electric knob on the newer ones.
I disagree I had 2016 sold it to my dad he has 120,000 miles on it now still running strong.
Stelantis is killing the Chrysler dodge jeep and ram + raising the price, if Chrysler owned it self it would be more reliable and cost less
I love jeep I own one, but year after year the price for a new one is higher and higher It’s insane ! And not only jeep brand, others brands too !
These straight 6 twin turbos are going to be an expensive nightmare in a couple of years.
To be fair... Hybrids are great. But hybrids with CDJR? Forget it.
You feel like they’re ruining dodge Jeep and Chrysler? LOL. They were already crap…now they are just crappier.
In 03 l walked into a Chevy dealer, they had 0% interest, l drove out in a brand new basic trim Suburban ,60 payments of 700.00 no down payment, went back a couple of years later and bought a new Chevy Cobalt for my daughter in the low 20’s, those were the happy days of car shopping.
CDJR has been in decline for decades before their current owner. Stellantis just caught the falling knife.
Not to mention the transmission is on borrowed time at 50,000 miles
Is the chair @6:40 for sale for 100,000+ too?
Great video! Well said. Reliability is terrible and very expensive to repair
You do know the us government forced these manufacturers to change engines, the hemi wasn’t compliant anymore for the epa
He doesn't, he's just a salesman
It’ll be sad if they do go under but this should send a message to Wall Street that if you know nothing about your products you have no business being in charge. Making products that people want and can afford is more important than bigger profits.
55-74k and no spray in bedliner?… this has to stop. People keep buying any brand and they keep raising the prices and given us less in most cases
It's not inflation, it's greedflation. I have never seen a car with 300 days to sell, turned from a new car to a used car while sitting and deteriorating on the lot.
Hornet base model should be well under $30K out the door.
Few were buying chrysler products before the pandemic. These prices and the oncoming recession, it's going to be a big mess.
Chapter 11 bankruptcy. Worked for GM in 2009. Shareholders are wiped out, Creditors are scalped. A year later the company comes out of chapter 11 and issues new shares for new money. GM is still around.
I’d take a regular V6 over any turbo V6 any day . Unless it was a built turbo v6 .
It pretty much is a built turbo but inline six, which is superior to a V. People bashing it don't even understand the output numbers on those things, it crushes the Hemi. And this is coming from a Hemi owner. The output on the new I6 is beyond what anyone would need, it's a baby cummins on gas. 540 horsepower and 521 lb.-ft. of torque
@@roman9762 it’s not a Built engine…
@@kharnthebetrayer1575 it has forged internals and it's assembled by robots at the factory ready for mods, there are already several with well over 1,000hp. No monkey at home is going to build it better
The worst thing other than the prices that they’ve done, is getting rid of the hemi
The biggest problem for Stellantis is their pricing.
Let the dominoes fall, hopefully no Government bailouts this time
Greedy CEOs can easily ruin a company. Just look at Boeing.
Never should of been sold to a foreign concern
Just tried to buy a gladiator, they had 68 at a local dealer. The sales manager was a total donut and didn't even try to make a sale. Good I hope they go under
kkkkkkkkk here in brazil an ram 2500 costs more than half million reais (brazilian currency) and people are paying (an f-150 costs almost the same amount here)... you guys at north america are in heaven!
No we are not 😂😂😂😂😂
I work for stellantis customer care and I can say that these people know there are issues with 2024 and 2025 vehicles aswell, there are cost cutting at the engineering level which is effecting on how they design or upgrade the parts. Man these people literally putting a part which know has issues, they know it goes bad withing 3 months yet they put it in there 2025 vehicles and selling to consumers. No fix for these ABS modules, catalytic converters, Radios etc it's trash.
Now they even tell us to not give any cost assistance or buybacks for even newer vehicles. I have customer waiting for a damn abs module update since a year and we have to deal with there ordeal as middle man and we do not get any answers on what to respond to these people.
They thought they were going to force these high prices on the American consumer, but they wound up screwing themselves instead.
Don't forget the new Hellcat EV😅😅😅 what a joke , Dodge is Done, Yet the C.E.O gets millions a year for what what a pice of 💩
V8's are dinosaurs in light duty trucks. You dont need them to haul Twinkies 😂
Ok goofy
Ok goofy
They have many lawsuits in the process as well.
TY 👍
If the van was cheaper people would buy them
Which was why they killed off the Econoline series with the V8, now they’re replaced with Transits. Same smaller engine bs
These dealerships go into bankruptcy one after another, the piled up vehicles will go into auction, or firesale at 35 - 40% discount, or more. Nobody should buy these vehicles at these inflated prices at all. Half price when one can consider them, but even then the reputation, the build quality, the quality of the materials used etc. are all in question. A lot of them will be crashed brand new. Mark my word.
Same trucks as 2019. Mild refresh. Increased prices. Not many takers. Foreign ceo. Uaw build quality equals, you ll be in shop
"Money" is the CEO's mindset. That's why he won't sell Chrysler back to the founder's grandson.
Had to look it up , you're right that's crazy.
Good job
Should be a class action lawsuit. Dodge knew the Hemi didn’t work in the Ram.
No more Hemi, no more EcoDiesel v6, I6 twin turbo, hell no. No more RAM.
Stellantis folks become too greedy. This is absolutely crazy
Free gas for 5 years and free Preparation H for life as long as you own the vehicle can boost up the sale definitely.
Stellantis is profitable worldwide,.. But it looks like they really don't care about their market share in North America
In a good, reliable engine, i don't need any turbo for pickups .But today, the American companies are doing garbage.
Today’s truck SUV prices are just insane. And they aren’t all the reliable.
Dealerships: "Customers love the Hemi V8 in the trucks and cars".
Stellantis CEO: "Okay great, let's discontinue the motor and sell a V6 nobody wants".
🤢
I'm just glad that I was never a car person nor did I was into cars nor did I owned a car so having a car note doesn't exist in my world. I already knew since I was a kid that owning & maintaining one of these vehicles will really cost you a small fortune on top of owning a house and no wondering that the Majority of Americans are Dead Broke and have absolutely no emergency fund money of @ least $1K in cases of accidental something...
Since most phones can do half of the things that a car has built in, that's one of many things that could be cut back on. And not everyone needs a cab. More bed would be better use of space.
Prices should be discounted by 50%
V8 is being discontinued on most brands the EPA is to blame
It’s time for the Hemi to go away! Now what not sure