2012 Volkswagen Passat TDI Drive and Review
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- ( www.TFLcar.com ) The 2012 Volkswagen Passat Turbo Diesel TDI is the only front wheel drive mid-sized sedan with a diesel engine and a dual clutch gearbox that you can buy in America.
the background music makes me think I am watching a Harry Potter movie.
@brihamlin1 Thanks for the kind words about the review. It's an iPhone app called G-tac
We believe that manufactures and car magazines publish 0-60 MPH times that are completely unrealistic for owners to achieve. Sure if you test a car at a drag strip with tons of traction, one gallon of gasoline and a driver that weights 120 pounds at or below sea level, with multiple launches for the perfect result...you might be able to replicate the published 0-60 MPH time. But in the real world, in general, times are at least 2 seconds slower.
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I once owned a 1979 Trans Am automatic with the 403 Oldsmobile engine WS6. They listed it in the 1/4 mile at 15.9 seconds. I took it to the New England Dragway and registered 15.9 in the quarter mile.
I have owned my Passat TDI for 6 months. At first the 0-60 was slow but after a lot of aggressive driving it is a lot faster, I raced my friend who just bought his and I smoked him. So the acceleration gets a lot better
Thanks for the heads up, I'm considering getting a this model in a wagon model.
Do you regret getting it? If so why, if not, why?
@pbrinzei "Old Technology" refers to the fact that the diesel engine was invented in 1892 by Rudolf Diesel
I got a 2013 TDI and put 2500 miles on it and find it to be a great car, fun to drive and I'm getting 45mpg+ , 50mpg freeway if I baby it. This is a great commuter car, my daily drive120 miles in S.Ca. Also the cost of deisel is often less than gas and with over 700 miles on a tankfull, I don't need to fill up often. BTW I looked at the hyrids, electric and econo-box and found the Passat TDI is the best commuter car if you value comfort economy, styling, effciency and fun!
Do you still feel this way about your Passat? I'm considering getting a 2012 model with a full service history, 130k odd kilometres on the clock. I've never owned a vw but I went in a bettle once with a loud exhaust and it went hard (not the same, but enjoyed it all the same, it handled well).
I've been reading up about them, the 2.0tdi's, as long as maintenance is carried out on time, they're not much more expensive than most average cars to run, especially in a Mediterranean style climate (Southern coast of Australia).
You guys have been making some entertaining car reviews for some time now... keep it up!!
It did very well. Keep in mind, the Passat was wearing mud and snow tires, but overall it was very stable and predictable. No traction issues and a smooth Camry-like ride on and off the snow. Thanks for watching!
America is ready for a car that burns diesel. I've had a Passat TDI for 6 months now and its terrific. It's amazing that a car that big can get north of 40+MPG. On a 100 mile drive in SoCal I got 59.8MPG with two passengers, AC on, and a truckload of stuff.
Roman's "real world" 0-60 for almost any other car he tested is almost always slower (usually much slower) than what the car get at the track. The Passat TDI is actually right around where it should be, thats impressive :P
And while 0-60 in 9 seconds might not very quick, the car does 0-40 much faster than a 9 second 0-60 car has the right to, so it feels quick in normal city driving :)
Yeah I find the Passat 0-40 is deadass like 4 seconds and then that left over 20 is where I am feeling the torque fall off
Thanks for quirky reply. Did it let you feel that you needed all wheel drive at any point?
excellent review as always! This is my #1 source for car info!
I always like Nathan's wardrobe consisting of defunct car brands :)
I have had my 2013 TDI 6 speed manual since Oct 2012 with 20,000KM as I am always commuting between Toronto, Kingston and Ottawa on weekends!
Get 1300KM hwy, city 700-800KM and 850-1000KM combined!
i loved the soundtrack this time. you guys are great!
You get the like alone for the Yugo-Shirt! Keep up the good work :)
one of your better reviews
I have an 82 Mercedes 300D. Some things are falling apart but the diesel will not stop running. There is not much maintenance needed and the engine lasts forever. But it is slow at cold start.
How was the overall snowy weather driving? I'm used to AWD cars
Nope, not for 90% of the time. It is a fairly heavy front-drive vehicle so there were a few moments of wheel-spin from a standstill. Overall control is soft and easygoing. As long as there are good mud & snow tires on, the grip is impressive. I only lost traction in a driveway covered in ice - that was the only time I wanted all-wheel drive. Thanks for watching!
Nice t-shirt,greetings from serbia.
@1rustyb I suggest the ISF, you won't be disappointed as the S350 is a 3.5 v6 0-60 about 7.6 while the lexus is a lot more cheaper and you get 5.0 V8 RWD 0-60 4.8 fully optioned. and if you wait for the 2013 you get extra for same price, but if you're looking for class check out the 2013 LS600HL. hope that helps mate
I know right, I went by an Exxon here in Houston and gas was $3.49 while diesel was only 10cents more at $3.59.
i thumbed up this video for the hard work of the effects
Dipends where you live in souther europe diesel is 3/4 price of gasolene. They forgot to say it has 140HP but with that much torque out of a 4 cylynder diesel is impressive
Umm...how can they put TDI on their gasoline engine? Do you even know what TDI is? Its a diesel engine. ANY diesel engine you find in any VW or Audi is a TDI engine. They have TSI and TFSI turbocharged petrol engines with direct injection. You cant even buy a new VW or Audi that doesn't have a turbocharged direct injection engine, unless you live in america and you still get those prehistoric engines than VW ditched in europe like 10 years ago.
Love the introduction!!!!!!!!
Great review...I think we're ready for a diesel like that here in the States. Hey were can I get on of those "accelerometers"?
great review. i think diesel's are great, they last longer and have better fuel economy, i want to see more diesels here
Because it's TDI (turbo) as opposed to SDI (non-turbo), which are both Volkswagen direct injected diesel engines. They needed a way to differentiate the two. It has nothing to do with gassers one way or the other.
I was just remarking the Passat TDI's "real world" acceleration is right around its "advertised" acceleration. I account this to the diesel's robust nature at shrugging off additional stresses with little negative results (its very consistent).
Diesel is not 80 cents more these days, it's more like 15 cents more. Lets hope it stays that way.
That's a question best answered by the engineers at VW. I would suggest asking them.
Not intended to be snarky.
Hey Nathan, how was your experience of driving this car in snow? I see there is small amount of snow there, how does this Passat TDI behave in good amount of snow on the tarmac?
Thanks
Any awnsers
I wanted to get a VW TDI, but the only diesels my dealers have are like the high end ones that cost 32k :(
0-60 in 9 sec is exactly what VW promises. But given the fact that ihigh altitude had no effect on its performance and it gets 30mpg in city 40 mpg highway with real seating for 5 man size adults (1200lb payload) and 15.9 cu ft of trunk space, it is even more incredible.The Chrysler 300 with 3.6L V6 and 300 hp did 0-60 in 9.01 sec at that altitude.
I see VW's TDi models with the Jetta and Passat as alternatives to Hybrids. Only drawback with Diesel costing more than premium fuel, a lot of people would be dismissive to that, but shouldn't be. 30 city/ 42 highway should awaken some. It's also VW's clean diesel. Can you use any type of diesel (especially biodiesel) in the Jetta and Passat?
what state are you in that you have such cheap gasoline? Here in California diesel is about the same price as 91 gas, around $4.25
Diesels pollute less than standard gasoline, they emit soot but its not harmful.
The only thing that would have made this review better is if at 4:33 they chucked something at Captain Spandex there!
@gab13005 No it stands for Turbocharged Direct Injection. Google TDI
The whole greener aspect of it... is the mileage better enuf to justify spending more at the pump? I hated putting premium in my 96 Bonneville SSEi, even if it got 80mpg. Its like sticker shock. I just got can't fathom the extra cost for being green. I like my green to stay in my pocket. :)
I bet you regret putting your face that near after diesel gate :). Way more common in UK. At one point 54% of new cars sold were diesels.
I live in India where Diesel makes more sense. Petrol costs Rs.75 a liter and Diesel is Rs.43 a liter.That is 57% more!! But in America petrol(gas) is cheaper , so you can stick with Petrol.And we get diesel in subsidized rates.
It is a real pity you did not talk about MPG. Not so much the factory numbers, but what you attained while driving it. Other than that, great review.
And to think, anything I ever experienced the manufacturers numbers are generally rather conservative. I will agree with the magazines though, especially Car and Driver, they're usually quicker. But I've yet to at least personally find a manufacturer that (if they even publish times) show faster numbers.
Roman...smelling diesel is very dangerous...some doctors say it could be one of the symptoms of lung cancer..
We all care about you Roman! Keep up your reviews...
I truck stop near my house has diesel urethra pumped for 2.80 a gallon. You do need to fill it in a gas can then pour it into the car.
Nice Video guys! keep it up
I wish they would have discussed the diesel price with the better gas mileage factored in. Might be cheaper than petrol if you factor in how many times you have to fill it up in a year
So back in the day were there any other cars other than the Mercedes that offered a diesel?
good one guys, could you please het your hands on the mercedes s 350 bluetec diesel, and also the bmw 335d I'm really curious about those too and I'm a diesel head
I love diesel and think they are great. Infact right now I am trying to get a 2010 jetta TDI sportwagon but iver sees its called the Golf wagon. Since my current car is only getting 20 hwy A TDI will be a excellent. In America Diesel cost much more than 87octane gas about 30-50cents more per gallon. So right now our diesel market is mostly trucks. That is changing though because now GM has the cruze diesel which is a first for an american car company in almost 30 years
My dad might be getting a TDI SEl but you have to wait 120-150 days for them to order them. Any other suggestions on cars?
TDI stands for "Turbo Direct Inject" not "Turbo Diesel." Don't know why they decided on that nomenclature, but it is what it is...
Nice. Id buy a blue one with a manual transmission (if thats even available here in the states).
Tdi DOES stand for turbo diesel injection, common vernacular is just turbo diesel. Trust me trollers, I'm a VW fanatic, I've owned 3.
for the last time, TDI stands for TURBO DIRECT INJECTION. Not Diesel, although it doesn't really matter. BTW great t-shirt. Yugo forever!
@gab13005 Well, if you want to get technical, we could call it "Turbocharged Dieseleinspritzung" - but calling it a turbo-diesel is the fast, lazy way that means the exact same thing. Thanks for watching!
well it really depends on which province
Average price in Alberta on Diesel vs Gasoline are pretty close
I have seen in the past Diesel price has been cheaper then Gasoline for a while
What's a B segment diesel? Is that like the european VW Golf Bluemotion that gets 75MPG?
@BIGCHRIS7600 Oh yes, there were many in the U.S. I remember the Peugeot 504 & 505s, VW Rabbit Diesels, Oldsmobile Delta 88 diesels and Isuzu P’up among others. Thanks for watching!
The OEM rear view camera for Passat is available on Amazon
Thank you for the clarification!
yeah good review but does nathan fit ???
TDI stands for turbo direct injection.
Well, if the urea system on this VW is basically using the same stuff that is in a urinal (3:10), then, why didn't VW build a urinal in the right rear fender for passer bys to use? I mean, I'd be happy to help out a VW owner so he didn't need to buy the expensive urea (DEF) fluid every 10k miles from a parts store!
so why don't they put TDI on their direct injection turbocharged gasoline engines but only on diesels?
Cannot see the point of a diesel car in the US, here in Europe the fuel is cheaper and they get about 20% better fuel economy
But studies here show given the higher initial cost of them, incuding more expensive servicing, you would have to drive around 60000/70000 kms, to make any real savings over a petrol/gas powered car. They are also prone to injector pump failure.
The only benefit perhaps is they are easier to sell second hand.
Does this Passat do the window trick? Like all vw?
I am buying two new TDI VWs. No more gas. It's all about torque baby!
I want the VW Diesel back... next year I will replace a vehicle with a low mileage Passat TDI and I might get myself a Jetta or Beetle TDI the year after... I had a Jetta and it was wonderful... the torque and the mpg possible... driving fuel economic became a sport... now on that note... get the standard transmission if you don't mind the manual shifting... the manual just fits the motor... maybe you should make a diesel gate video... past, present, and future... name what happened to all the VW Diesels... what is VW doing with Diesels in Europe... is it coming back in the US... and how feasible is it now to purchase a low mileage VW Diesel... well maybe... with a little luck... on the Fast Lane Car...
Why didn't u guys mention what the car gas mileage was thats the reason you would get a turbo diesel car
where is the "can Nathan fit" part?
Uh, if it is 80 cents a gallon more than regular doesn't that pretty much wipe out the stellar mileage advantage that a diesel gets?
the guy was arguing about what tdi means, i own a b6 2.0 tdi passat... i know what it is... now maybe you can't get a non turbocharged gasoline but just a few years ago there were 2.0 fsi in passat .. i think 1.6 fsi was also a thing but i guess they were replaced with 1.2 , 1.4 and 1.8 tsi's ... aw - and the vr6's are not turboc/supercharged... they still put the 3.6 in the cc altho i guess they're no longer in regular passat, also there were sdi diesels some years ago... without turbochargers
They should use the napkin test instead of the trick software.
@theGbak47 The S class and the IF are not even in the same league of cars. the IF competes with a C class.
Really? You guys do a complete 180 in time for the next model year? In a video with this car (13 model) and either the Accord or Altima (I don't remember), you switched who would buy and who would not!! What changed your minds...?
Do they come all wheel drive?
No front wheel drive only
So....the most important thing i got from this video is.... I can piss into my car in some spot and it helps it run cleaner? :P
@onoff314 i know there aren't but i said if you want performance but less luxury get an lexus ifs but i would prefer luxury over performance get the s-class. however the IF does compete with C class, but id rather get the ISF because it is cheaper, faster and the 2013 is just plain luxury
Your gas is really cheap in Colorado...it's about $3.39 for regular unleaded here in the Detroit area.
until diesel comes down in price in the US you would be better off with a gas engine soothing like the new mazda 6 with skyactive that is getting 38MPG.
i have a leak in my gas tank 2012 vw passat how do i change can anyone tell me
With those prices of diesel vs. gasoline, I can see, why european manufacturers like VW or BMW, who here in Europe sell the wast majority of their large cars almost with diesels engines, still need petrol engines for the US market. With the cost of diesel 30% above that of petro, a diesel engine doens´t pay off. Its as simple as that. Kind of a shame really, as the modern turbo-charged diesel engines would suit the relaxed US way of driving rather perfectly.
Where are you finding gas under $3?
i love to have this in MEXICO... i'll buy it right away
NinO
SF, $3.89, 91,OCT. $3.99, DIESEL. Diesel USED to be cheaper than gas, REMEMBER?!! It doesn't take as much to refine diesel. The "Clean" diesel, is made with horse P.P. WHICH YOU HAVE TO CHANGE EVERY 10K MILES. NOT THE OIL CO. You cannot find gas cars in EUROPE. THEY ALL GO TO COLLAGE AFTER HIGH SCHOOL TOO. :/. You guys should try a 2012, S350, 4MATIC. I'M ORDERING ONE.. UNLESS THE 2013 IS BETTER..
PRICE.. ':)
Hey guys u forgot to mention 40 mpg avg vs a Camry Accord Mazda of 22 avg .80 cents a gal more 4 fuel is minimal. Your review was not accurate and bias Jetta 50 mpg hwy TDI 700 + mile range on 16 gal vs the 18 gal fill up on the Japan cars. 05/06 MB E320 CDI 4k lbs 37 mpg hwy.
Also my friends 2012 ford f350 6.8 Diesel gets 20 mpg hwy that's an 11K pound truck. I had a 1998 E300 TD and I averaged 30 mpg city and 34+ hwy at 80 mpg with power to spare. It was rear ended and totaled by insurance.
could you please tell me the name of the opening song??
the 0-60 clip is from your other video :s
Must have dual rear pipes to get my attention.
not ONE word about average fuel consumption?? That's the whole point of a diesel engine!
great car
Great review, liked the Harry Potter music at the beginning-- kind of dramatic! lol
Old technology ? Direct injection at 30 000 PSI Variable Turbo, Water cooled intercooler, Erea injection, 4 valve per cylinder, drive by wire throttle, fast glow plug system etc. I would like to see new technology then.
I don't know why dude got voted down so much. TDI indeed stands for Turbocharged direct injection to delineate it from both the older indirect injection (IDI) diesels and from the modern normally aspirated direct injected diesels, or SDI motors. Whether this naming convention makes sense or not is irrelevant. Facts are facts.
On another note, I enjoy your vids for the most part guys.
Diesel in Maryland is 3.90 a gallon plus!!
In Europe diesel is cheaper than gasoline, or at least it cost the same, so if you make more than 10000 miles/year diesel is the way to go.