The 22LR "Hitman" Theory... Is It TRUE??? (vs Human Head)
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- The 22LR "Hitman" Theory, is it true??? Today we find out!
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I was a police detective in Louisiana. If you have the muzzle against the skull, some of the damage done inside of the skull will be from the gases entering the wound and ripping and shredding tissue. I’m a subscriber now because of this video. It’s still very interesting
Behind the ear if you want reality
There is definitely some truth to the "pinball theory" I had a buddy who shortly after high school was over tried to take his life with a .22 revolver. He shot under his chin kinda towards the back of his head, but the bullet came around and out his eye. He lives today with no vision in one eye and a little trouble speaking but otherwise totally normal.
A family friend shot himself in the arm with a .22 while squirrel hunting (dumbass) and it bounced between and up the bones in his arm before coming out the opposite side it went in.
That's just bullets in general, not exclusive to .22LR.
@@xaninuax My grandfather had something similar happen to him when his buddy at the time accidentally shot him right below the bicep and the .22 long bounced off his humerus and exited out the back of his shoulder.
Ouch, that's sad man..
There is an infamous case they show in criminal justice case of a cop shooting it out with a criminal.
Criminal was shot many times but the cop was hit with a 22 in the arm. It traveled up the arm bone and deflected under the arm pit into his heart.
The second round wasn't being shot into a "sealed vessel". The first round had no vented hole to relieve the pressure wave like the second round had. You would have to shoot two fresh targets to get apples to apples comparisons. nice work. Great video.
My first thought. although thinking the second bullet was traveling through previously damaged tissue. The only way this test has validity is to have a fresh target every time
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT! in addition I think most of the old mob hits were done with .22 shorts not LR 2 to the head just in case.
@@jamesoliva9531 I've also always heard that they would take some of the powder out to make the round less powerful.
@@fcukjones6709 Possibly, however, most of these guys were not reloading/ballistic savvy, probably would not know how much powder to take out to insure effectiveness.
I guess the "Double Tap" would be called for if you're serious . . .
As a retired x-ray tech, I can volunteer that in the few postmortem suicide x-rays I produced, pistol rounds were likely to remain in the skull.
That had to be creepy
Did it make a difference what caliber it was?
I was in EMS. In all four I personally ran on, At least one eye popped out. I'm surprised Hollywierd left out that detail.
@@philochristos They were mainly small caliber from 22 short to 38. Can't discriminate between spcl and magnum. Don't remember any 44/45 or larger.
So do they always die and how many days does that take?
You earned my sub mate.
I watched the last video and face palmed when you used a 22 rifle. But instead of ego defence, you sucked it up, listened to the critics and tried again in a more accurate test. Good for you.
The internet is full of people trying to prove that they are right, and you are trying to test a theory to see if its valid. Credit to you.
This comment made such a good point I'ma sub
@@haleyedwards4253 Even as someone who is cynical about humanity, reading your comment restores my faith. Good luck to you Haley.
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Well stated!
I worked for 30+ years in surgery: level one trauma. I have seen multiple 22 round GSW’s; the pin ball theory is absolutely true… I have even seen a 22 round rap around the skull; enter just above the orbital rim and exit just the ear.
I can also confirm. Having seen multiple CAT scans from .22 GSWs to the head, they can definitely bounce off the inside of the skull back into the brain.
Are you a doctor or a nurse it don't matter to me I could care less but the fact is your right and before you go beating your chest please at least give me a what's up.
@@williambeatty2675 : Hey genius. They were establishing their credentials to speak authoritatively on the subject, instead of some pseudo-intellect, Armchair expert. With that experience, they are confirming that the phenomenon is real.
If you don't like the way, they presented that information..... Too bad !!
Angle probable has a lot to do with it kinda like it hitting a curved spot within the skull to allow it to “bounce” around
Cool, still won't do as much damage as even a 9mm😂.
My experience with 22 "pin ball" effect was a story told to me by a Detroit Vice Cop. A hooker shot her john for non-payment using a 22 short, small pistol. The point of entry was the left ear. There was no exit wound. The coroners report indicated the bullet did ricochet inside the skull of the victim. Coroners reports are the most reliable source for this type of injury, Another Detroit Police officer was killed by a 22 pistol during a raid. That bullet went into the cuff of his P coat and followed the lining of the sleeve into his chest. Bullets can do some weird things.
The first shot you put in was right through the cerebellum -- in that location, it doesn't matter if there's pinballing or not, that person is dead, dead, dead. You simply cannot survive a busted cerebellum.
what if i use pen gun?
When I was a crew chief on an ambulance we got dispatched to a suicide attempt by gun. When we pulled up I was shocked to see the patient standing, giving his report to the police. When I examined him I could feel the bullet caught between the scalp and skull!
The attempt was made with a .22 Derringer, firing shorts. The problem was holding the gun at too steep an angle, rather than perpendicular to the skull.
Man brotha, I really appreciate your videos. I love the fact that they are not 2 hours long with a bunch of nonscence and ridiculous music. All your content is straight to the point and entertaining. Thank you again for sharing your videos with us. Can't wait for the next one
Great video, as I stated on the earlier video, the shot is supposed to be under the ear on the soft tissue angled toward the frontal lobe. The smaller bone structure should redirect the .22 and possibly break it up causing the "pinball" effect. The back of the skull is dense and reduces the potential of a :bounce" internally. Thanks again!
Or the bottom of the skull in the back of the head. Angled up so that the bullet has room to bounce around. Slighy easier to access by just walking up behind the person on the street or in a club. Why a revolver is preferred in case you have a contact shot. That and .22s are notorious jammers in semi autos. More deer and elk are killed with .22 lr and .22 mag every year than all other cartridges combined. It's the poachers choice. Aim for the spine or right below the ear. If you hit the sweet spot they drop like a bag of shit. If you miss, then the animal suffers very little and 99% they live with no ill effects. BTW I do not condone poaching or assassination especially poaching. My first dog I raised from a puppy was shot by a poacher, Had I known she had escaped the truck and was shot by that piece of shit, I would have assassinated him. POS didn't even have the balls to admit what he had done. Dragged her thru the woods and right off the trail. Like I couldn't follow a blood trail... He was probably worried for his life. A Rhodesian Ridgeback can bounce like a deer thru the woods. Only they have hound ears not deer ears. Dude was right to be afraid. If I had come on him while he was dragging y dead dog, I don't know what I would have done. We were shooting tech 9 and other pistols so...
Boolot 1 scrambled the brains creating a more open cavity thus less resistance to boolot 2 allowing it to pass straight through.
I've been told the reason a .22 was usedwas,you could buy a Saturday nite special for 25 dollars or less,in early days no tracing ,plus at 2 inches it doesn't have to be accurate and when deed was done the firearm was disposed of at the scene or elsewhere with no trace back .clean,cheap and disposable.
..and it was much more quiet than a .38 etc.
I’ve got an old .22 still in the box from the 70’s. The price sticker says $19.95.
In high school a kid was messing around with a single action .22 at a party and accidentally hit himself under the chin and it went up into the front of his brain cavity and lobotomized him, he still lived but was just super spacey and never the same
Did he black out when he got shot?
Did he died
@@fukusamon4277he just said he lived
Damn that would suck..
Bullet tumbles
I've seen hog's shot with a 22 short before slaughter.
.22 short at contact to close range best not be underestimated.
Very true. FYI a lot of bolt guns used for animal slaughter used to be powered by 22 blanks. So a 22 round at least has the "potential" energy to penetrate a skull.
I would think a bigger animal like a hog or a deer would run away after being shot by a 22 since it's not big enough to take it down bit I'm sure it would still hurt. A shot to the neck might take them down.
@@KentPetersonmoney
The shot placement is key. Function, accuracy and penetration are king in choosing a cartridge. The shot happens at close range behind the ear or between the eyes. Behind the ear was my father's choice. So I've actually witnessed this on more than one occasion.
Less mess and damage. Some of the older folks kept the head and brain. My grandmother liked this and squirrel brains. The lesson here was waste not want not. Taking into consideration the era and difference in living. Country folks or rednecks, whatever you wanna call us, learned to be as self reliant as possible. Walmart and Lowes wasn't around at that time. A small mom and pops store, if you were lucky within 10 or 20 miles was a blessing. Things have come a long way even since the 70's and early 80's. Some of my family drive 30 miles just to get interstate and small town access. Then another 20 to 100 + miles to a place larger. I was raised in this type of area, cliffs and hills. Hunting, tapping, fishing and ginseng hunting were part of my life. Trapping fur and ginseng root sold for money. Especially before Christmas. Along with cutting, housing, stripping and pressing tobacco for extra money.
I don't disagree, but it seems inhumane, and risky, no room for error. The 22 short lacks the lb ft of energy even at the muzzle. If you've ever come across a trapped mad hog you would see why to use a 9, or at least a .22 mag minimum at muzzle distance.
@@coupe50h Yeah true. I think the takeaway here is that a .22round is perfectly lethal under "ideal" conditions, but not reliably lethal under "real world" conditions. I guess that is why assassins would use a 22 revolver at point blank range at the base of the skull. I mean 22 airguns have killed people but in practise you certainly wouldnt want to rely on it in home defence lol
A friend of mine from high school got shot in the face with a 22 handgun. It went in under his cheek and exited his chest. It would've had to have ricocheted at least twice in his body for that to have occurred.
He made a full recovery, thankfully.
The temporal area of the skull, where bullet #2 exited, is the thinnest part of the skull and easily defeated. The occipital bone at the back of the skull is the thickest part, followed closely by the frontal bone. There are cases of much more powerful rounds skipping around the skull after striking either of these, especially if the hit isn't straight on.
Back in my LEO days I worked and saw several cases where folks were shot in the head with .22s and .25s (pretty much the same ballistically -- SLIGHT edge maybe to the .22 from a long barreled handgun). Anyway, I don't remember any exit wounds. Most of these were sadly suicides, at least a couple were murders, but the results were the same. M.E. told me he's seen .22s and the like bounce around a bit (I doubt they "pinball" with any predictable regularity but even just one extra wound track in the brain is substantial). I can tell of one case wherein a .22 from a pistol initially missed everything important (torso hit) after entering the chest through the sternum at a strong upward angle. A more powerful round would have exited the upper chest. Unfortunately for the deceased, the .22 hit a rib, diverted from its path, perforated the aorta, diverted off another rib, went BACK through the aorta (and lung) before stopping. Four holes in the aorta almost instantly meant immediate lights out (helped by an astronomical blood alcohol level).
So, real world, they can bounce about a bit (FWIW, I know of one police officer one county over who was shot in the thigh with a .357 and the round hit his femur and ran up the bone into his pelvic girdle, miraculously not breaking his bone or rupturing an artery -- so other rounds do it, too).
In any event, getting shot, even by a .22 pistol SUCKS! And a .22 can certainly be used to good effect.
I've heard a very similar story but I was always told gangsters used 22 short cartridges in a pistol and you had to shoot just behind the ear or in the ear. But who knows I'm convinced it could work I think the response time and of course medical care from then to now, in the unlikely chance you were found immediately after had a lot to do with the chance of surviving but I would think if it happened you would be in a place you wouldn't be found right away.
That could absolutely work. If it hits the medula oblongata, that's lights-out
@@anonymouslee2083 Exactly! Same structure that is targeted with the shot to the nape of the neck execution as it was popular in the Soviet Union or by (law enforcement or Military) snipers when shooting at the area between the eyes/ bridge of the nose when stopping hostage situations. Same target structure, just different angles. And depending on the angle there ist more or less bone in the way so 22 might not work for that depending on from where they shot comes, distance, load, weight and material of the bullet. Ballistics are complicated and have a lot of variables... So blanket statements arent always a good representation
Awesome video! I hate to waste another head but I would love to see the results of a 22 short cartridge.
Me too
I was thinking the same thing.
I agree. However we also need chronograph data as well. For both the 22short and 22lr. The box is almost always wrong or they use a longer 24" barrel for getting those numbers. It will tell so much more of the story if we could get the chrony data for both calibers out of the particular gun / barrel he is going to use.
Those heads are like 400 bucks apiece. UA-cam better be paying out yall
22 Magnum 32 acp maybe 🤔 😏 😅 😳 👀 😬
I may have a bit more experience with this. I was a paramedic for many years and sadly I have seen more than one gunshot. The damage inside the skull is mostly caused by hydrostatic pressure so your second shot just passed through already destroyed mush.
As for the pinball theory, I have actually seen that effect with. 22 shots to the chest.
So would you say .22LR is a good defensive round?
@@ubcroel4022 Better than nothing but not as good as a common 9mm, etc. The real problem with .22 lr is not that it is too small (which is an issue to an extent) but that rimfires (and .22 lr in particular) are inherently failure-prone. They simply don't fire as reliably as a center fire. IN a semi-auto that could cost you. In a double action revolver, probably not a huge issue.
Precisely. Pinball or not, that is a lot of pressure in an enclosed case.
@@ubcroel4022 Defensive, no. Hit man round, absolutely.
It was always my understanding that rather than a full power round a subsonic was the favourite choice 😁
Well being an old cuss, the myth that I heard about the .22 was a short behind the ear. The thickest part of the skull is the front and back. The bone behind the ear is very thin. If you have another skull laying around you might want to try the experiment again.
"On this episode of myth busters" good video.
Revolver leaves no shell casings
Hogs leave no DNA
Avoiding any unnecessary evidence 👍😁
@@MikeEwalt👍😁
@@MikeEwaltnot true at all, will be in their poo
Why don’t Italians like Jehovah Witnesses?
Italians don’t like any witnesses.
I was raised on a farm we used a 22LR Colt Woodsman to butcher both cattle and hogs and it did a fine job. I don't recall ever having to fire a second round as long as you know where to place the shot. Israel used the Berreta series 70 22LR for close up assisnations also.
also CIA using a High Standard 22 auto with silencer.....
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Loving your videos, hello from Australia
The Israeli Mossad used the .22-caliber Beretta 70 for "special" operations.
.22 short bullets were also commonly used due to their being very quiet (even unsuppressed).
I was thumbs up/like number 51..👍❤️👍
Sadly I have to go out so I'll have to watch when I get back in..
Aww man I missed out on the sopranos references 3 days ago.. I am so happy I came back to watch.. Lmao
I’d love to see the same test with a suppressed semi-auto pistol. Great video! Thanks!
The supressor would make no difference in bullet velocity nor would it being an automatic. (the bullet is out the barrel before the bolt/slide opens) The revolver probably looses more velocity from the cylinder/barrel gap. A single shot, bolt or lever actions are quieter.
@@frosty3693 it would increase BV by about 10 fps. Not much, not substantial at point blank at all. Not substantial beyond 300 yards either.
Biggest single reason they used .22s was they a non jacketed soft lead, passing throught the skull damages the soft lead bullet enough to prevent ballistics match.
Wouldn't a smoothbore barrel archive the same effect, they wouldn't figure out in a million years that a smoothbore was used especially if bullet deformation is likely.
@@1810jeff It would, but it would be much less accurate..
If you are wondering why Glock now has a "marksman" barrel, it's because the original rifling didn't leave enough ballistic evidence for weapon identification...so under duress Glock went to standard rifiling marketing it as "marksman" barrels
@@Kmurray9244 I'm aware of the accuracy downside but remember most crimes of that nature are done at like 15 yards max and a smoothbore is still accurate enough at those ranges to do a crime.
@@Kmurray9244 That was the story from NYC, probably when they were going to buy Glocks. But it is untrue the polygonal barrels still leave distinctive marks on the bullet. But the polygonal rifled barrels are not recomended for lead (not copper jacketed) bullets that are often used for target shooting, hence the name "marksman". But NYCPD got standard rifleled barrels on their guns anyway.
NYC is a cesspool of dumb gun ideas. When the city bought Glocks they also required a different trigger module that increased the trigger pull to ten or more pounds on the theory that police were used to double action revolvers could not transition to a lighter trigger pull. The part is called a New York trigger module.
Another NYC,, Chicago or LAPD, story back in the day, (1960s and earlier, maybe later too) was when there were riots the police would have odd ball pistols (25, 32, 380s) in their pockets. So if the riotors became a problem they would just pull out their pocket rockets and shoot the person they wanted to shoot and when the gun was empty they would throw it into the crowd knowing it would never be seen again and not be traced back to them and they never fired their service pistol.
@@frosty3693 The "story" came from a forensics firearms expert that works exclusively with forensics...yes they can/may be identifying marks on the projectile, but not nearly as definitive as standard rifiling. From a forensics/court perspective.
Part Two video is ALSO an excellent video; well made & the question was, in my view, answered as objectively as possible. Thanks again!
Ok, Jesse is taking it up a notch! This was a thoroughly entertaining video! It’s a great day when 1ShotTV posts a vid! Have a great week buddy!
Jesse? Well fuck. I had him pinned as a Derek for sure. I guess maybe I had it wrong.
@@joshuagibson2520 that’s the name I thought until I asked him.
Great video with surprising results. Awesome job keep them coming. Also I think that was a B25 medium bomber flying overhead.
I always heard this "theory" in reference to shots to the thoracic cavity which bounced around. I could see that being a misinterpretation of the fact that light rounds can yaw and/or change directions inside a body. For a head shot though, it doesn't need to bounce around at all lol.
I mean you're generally right, but at the same time there are tons of stories with xrays that show how a headshot isn't always a direct "off switch." People have survived shots from .22lr on up to 5.56 from varying ranges. Sometimes without even any noticeable long term effects, and even rarer still, sometimes the victim won't know they're shot for some time
@@angrydingus5256 Yeah I remember a story where a woman was shot in the head by her husband and thought it was a migrane. I've heard of small cal bullets not piercing the skull instead following its curve under the skin.
As a professional 'whacker' I have learned so much from your instructive videos !
They are a fraction quieter and a small bit weaker but at point blank contact they should achieve the desired effect. Not to mention in a Hitman scenario they are even more compact and concealable and more easily disposed of I would think
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I’d love to see one of these heads painted with spraypaint before shooting. It could be white or gray or fleshy colored, just want to see what the surface looks like before it is shot.
Plugging craniums with 22's
If you had a hitman sense you would have used a snub nose pistol. Much easier to conceal plus a bit of decrease in velocity.
Awesome video! Good job! Nice Goodfellows impression early in the video.
Would like to see this test with a ,22 Short. Being quieter than the LR it may have been a preferred hit man round.
Yeah I would think they would shot the gun centered high on the neck not really the skull. At the Medulla.
They are! 🐴
Great video very cool to do one with pistols as well as your video with rifles to see what the difference is. 22s are a great underestimated round. My kind of science experiment!
Would like to see the results from a short barrel .22 autoloader. Something along the lines of the Berretta 71 that the MOSAD used so well.
Also, All of the others that mentioned that the opening the was created by the first shot are correct about the pressure having an avenue to
escape but the "double tap" was a proven method and hollow=points would have been used to truly scramble the brain.
I can tell you why mobsters usually used .22s. I am a bit of an expert. I am writing a book on Roy DeMeo, the mafia's most egregious hitman back in the day. I also know a mobster. That's documented. Mobsters were taught to fire another head shot after the victim fell down to make sure they were dead. The reasons why they used .22s are: a .22 revolver doesn't leave casings, a revolver doesn't jam, it is the quietest among the revolvers, it is less likely to go outside the head, which also leaves less forensics (blood splatter analysis), and .22s are cheap and so ubiquitous, and hence they were easier to get off the black market (many of these guns were hijacked). The last one is also why they often used .38s. If the hit was indoors, they'd often use a .45 with a suppressor because they had time to clean up afterward.
They preferred 22 cal. Because it wouldn’t leave the body(therefore it won’t go thru walls, keeping the scene contained to as small an area as possible), and can be silenced with something as simple as a small pillow. Not because it turns your insides to mush!
Never use a folded coat
And didn't splatter blood all over the shooter.
I worked in a morgue for 5 years. Most of the time 22lr is truly a pinball in the cranium.
I had a friend who was shot behind the right ear with a .22 in an unsolved home invasion. When I saw him in the hospital, he was brain dead, but on life support so we could say goodbye... Ask me if I think the pin ball thing is true
Do you think the pin ball thing is true?
@@themoongateofficial yes
@@zenjon7892 I concur, definitely not gonna see me talking shit about .22 a bullet is a bullet
Now try a short 2-3 inch barrel automatic like jennings or a raven,
I believe bulk ammo back in the day was advertised around 1200fps.
What we call high velocity today.
Appreciate the effort that goes into making these videos .
I worked in a hospital near a park. Saw many GSW in the ER. One weird one with a 22 bullet. The guy was in much pain, the bullet had entered over his left heart, the bullet stoped under the skin as if it went straight through. What actually happened, the bullet hit a rib and tumbled around the rib, never penetrating his chest, just tumbled ripping along the rib, ouch.
Yeah, the unpredictability is why they aren't great for self defense.
Was his right heart ok?
I left out that the bullet rested under the skin of his back, giving the impression it went straight through his heart. The chest cavity, and heart were never penetrated.
One of the factors in the mafia hitman theory, as I've heard it, was the 22 lead bullets are not traceable because the riffling grooves are deformed. Was there any deformation in the bullets which would support that?
I think the second shot made it hard to see the results as clearly. I know those heads can't be cheap but I think the second shot should've been on a separate head. Your mob goon voices are pretty authentic sounding, though. Great video!
The gun of choice was a 22 short beretta. At point plank range.
A new skull has to be used for each bullet fired to have accurate results. The first bullet has more pressure then the second and the second bull has less pressure to overcome and the fluids are already displaced. Therefore, the first bullet shot in the skull is the only accurate result. Notice the difference in the sound from each bullet. The second is not a more powerful bullet, the results were inaccurate. Nice job on the first shot and demonstration. Thanks for sharing this.
6:11 (punches the shit out of the dummy) “that feels like a real face” 😂😂😂
Good vid! Their are other reasons the .22 was/is used. Obviously you touched on most the important points, messy, bouncey, etc. however, other reasons for using the .22 was simply cost effectiveness back in the day. .22 are so plentiful and cheap. Shoot and toss, pretty much. Another point was later, as forensics improved, the .22 is much much harder to trace for obvious reasons. The .38 was also a favorite. Cheap, plentiful, and so many made. As a retired LEO of 32 years in Baltimore, the .22 is STILL a preferred weapon for suicide, simply for not leaving a mess and disfigurement, NOT for their sake but for family and whoever would find them. Sadly, People actually consider these things and other strange things before taking their lives. I always found suicide interesting in the details. Fascinating when a person’s mental faculties have diminished to the point where they choose death over life and actually think that is the correct choice. What they think about prior to killing themselves is often bizarre. In one Murder/Suicide, a father decided to kill his entire family and himself. He also killed the family cat, but left the Labrador of his twin 17 year old son and daughter (who he killed) alive! It was just a welfare check I did by myself, and the dog was the only one who answered the screen door. I just wanted to ask that dog WTF? He had blood splatter/droplets on him, so he had to have witnessed it all in close proximity on that rainy gray dreary Fall Sunday. But was very little mess. Some of these things stick in my mind so vividly.
Great video. As a side note, Richard Kuklinski (the Iceman) said his favorite spot was right behind the ear.
I don't think the pinball theory is valid, because if the bullet had bounced around the skull, so much energy would have bled off, that it would have just been loose in the "brain" tissue and probably been quite deformed. I think it just went in and curved down with enough force to embed itself low in the skull.
Pretty small sample size here to draw a conclusion huh? Check out other comments
That was a sweet video. Thank you for the content. And keep ‘em coming.
Thomas Principe, also known as the ".22 Caliber Killer" worked for the Gambinos used silencer-equipped .22 caliber pistols - hit'em any where , 1 in the open street in Greenwich Village. His team killed at least 21. Used .22 cal for low sound, recoil and aim, usually in the torso.
You couldve probably washed out the skull to possibly see marks inside from ricochets
I’ve got a good buddy of mine that was shot point blank Right below the back of his left ear with a 45 ACP hollowpoint, it came out About a quarter inch below his right eye and got stuck in the wall. He survived and is relatively normal he just lost vision in his eye. Insane!!
That’s insane. Must’ve been 230 gr jhp so very slow bullet and didn’t expand
@@MrB1GD4DDy also maybe he didn't have much of a brain to begin with 😆
In all seriousness, the brain is still not 100% understood and is a phenomenon in itself. Stories like this boggles the world. Like, some guy lost a huge chunk of brain and skull, SURVIVED, and has had a (relatively) "normal" life, but I think with some memory issues. I can't remember exactly how it happened, but it stuck with me so much I can still see it when I think about it! It looks like about 1/4 of the back of his head is just.. gone!
I knew a guy who was driving away when he got fired on, he heard glass break and didn't even realize he'd been shot behind the ear and it exited just under his eye, with a 38 special. His gf, a passenger saw the blood, and alerted him he was hit.
He fully recovered.
Be interesting to see what shorts and longs would do my 1913 22 rifle wasn't designed for 22lr.
😁 being that most people today don’t use their brains it probably makes no difference. 👍🤔
Great video ! Just something caught my eye, I think your saw blade is on backwards !?? Not 100% sure but I think it may be backwards 😅
Hey man, I just wanna take a second to thank you for these videos. You seem like a good guy and the content is very good. Don’t let the negative comments, or constructive criticism get you down! Just learn from it (if it’s worth a 💩) and do exactly what your doing. Follow up with vids that need further experimentation and science it tf up
I have worked in the medical field, one night in the E.R. a gentleman came in, he shot himself by accident, the bullet entered from the Left bottom part of his lower jaw, and bounced on the crown of his skull, and the bullet need up on the Right side of his lower jaw, x rays were taken and it showed a clear path of the bullet, some fragmentation of his skull when it hit. Sorry i cant remember what Caliber the bullet was?
lower power like .22 short is what you want to look at
That's what I thought too, that revolver with a .22SR
The title really got me for a second
Maybe the company that makes these dummies could custom make a head with a transparent skull? Not sure how possible that is, but some form of acrylic? Anyway, that would answer this question once and for all.
Maybe... I think if they just emptied the skull of its contents and replaced it with ballistics gel that would work I imagine.
@@jacksoncronin9540 oh yeah, great point - much simpler and would also answer the question!
Should be all gel filled inside so that the bullit can be tracked.
@@simonbach3618 how would you simulate bone with gel.
@@brandon.25auto50 i dident say i would, i would use the skull he uses now i would just cut it in half and mould the 2 halfs inside gel, so we could see the bullit passing thru the gel
Enjoyed your show as always would like to see the stinger 22 lr results on a fresh ballistic skull. But I think I can picture outcome thanks again always fun
The idea of a clean kill with a .22 stems from making a point of contact shot, with the muzzle placed firmly against the skull. The gas pressure is what scrambles the brain, although the bullet helps by making a clean hole for the gas to penetrate. With a point of contact shot, the bullet is actually optional! Also, a POC shot makes the skull or body a closed container for the expanding gasses, which makes the round even quieter than a conventionally suppressed shot. For putting down large animals in a city environment, a POC shot is much less likely to upset the neighbors, and they won't have to hear an animal screaming in pain from your FUBARED shot placement. Naturally this is more effective with single shot or semiauto pistols ( I won't quibble that you call revolver a "Pistol" ; that was the nomenclature in my grandfather's day) As a number of other people have mentioned, a .22 short is usually enough, but some skulls are thicker and harder than others...
I have seen .22 short reliably penetrate three layers of 3/4" plywood from 25 feet.. I agree with you. I don't know where many people get off not respecting how dangerous these things are or why they feel the need for larger calibers.
@@danerlich7393 A .22 short can kill a moose if the shot is placed correctly and fired from closely enough. It has the additional value of being very quiet when used as a point-of contact shot. Keep in mind however, that MOST people who are shot with handguns don't die ( Well, eventually they will...) And lethality and mortality increase as a function of power. This is why most people shot with rifles or shotguns do die, other animals too.
@@TheMicroTrak Yes I heard that poachers often prefer 22's as they are dramatically quieter than more powerful rounds are and they can place their shots well enough to do the job. I watched a UA-cam video of people harvesting cattle with a 22 - single shot to the head well placed, dropped to the ground. There was a time when covert teams and the Mossad preferred suppressed 22 Ruger pistols to dispatch the bad guys.. two shots to the head, job done.
@@danerlich7393 I believe the Mossad still use them, being how effective and quiet they are
Isn't this how Bruce Lee's kid died filming the crow movie?
6:16 POV: When you're about to get your appendix removed and the doctor gives you this look.
The pinball theory could be plausible, brain tissue is a bit "squishier" than ballistics gel or muscle tissue. I think there are a lot more factors that go into it than just the bullet and tissue. Someone might have a weaker spot on their skull and it doesn't slow as much going through bone, entrance angle, barrel length, there are an awful lot of variables to account for
My Walther P22 has been my "oh crap" emergency backup piece for 20 years, main is my trusty .45 XDS but having the peashooter in reserve was a comfort. .22 LR is very capable of ending a threat if used properly.
Any caliber will make someone doing something to decide to do something else.
I think the pinball theory is entirely plausible, but the bullet laying in the bottom of the gel/brain could have been the bullet stopping in one of the blood sacks and falling down as it stopped. But still plausible. One thing is for certain tho and thats .22lr is good enough to get the job done😆
Weapon of choice is short barreled pistol with .22 short round. Quiet and compact.
Yeah definitely a much better test with a pistol, better yet if you had something like the Beretta or other short barreled auto pistol. The more I think about this and taking into account stuff I've read, I don't think the main reason to use the .22 was for the pinball effect as you cannot predict that this will happen enough to rely on it but rather because you can quiet down a subsonic .22 much easier than anything else available and those pistols are small enough to hide (try hiding that Ruger SA in your overcoat pocket, lol). As depicted in the book "By Way of Deception", the Israeli hit squads that took out the guys responsible for the Munich attack with pistols had at least two gunman with .22 autos (probably suppressed) who would close in on the target so they wouldn't miss easily, one guy emptying the mag in the head and the 2nd emptying the mag in the center chest. That way, no doubts that they'd successfully kill the target. The main things with assassination operations is: don't get caught, have no witnesses and use firearms that if they have to be left behind, leave no clues as to the source of the action. All else is just whatever happens. Yes, bullets can do weird things that are unpredicted but they don't always or even most of the time yield those unpredictable results. Even one slow, small bullet going through the corpus collosum, either lateral ventricle, thalamus, or midbrain is going end a life quickly.
I don't know if this is possible, but maybe instead of a gel use something like Styrofoam.
Not super-dense though. Dense enough to hold together yet not so dense that it keeps the bullets from moving through it.
That way you have a permanent wound track that won't drain away.
Pinball or the bounce around?
I always heard it was .22 "shorts" that were used. Even less of a chance of an exit wound with those.
The most damage on the first shot is caused by the muzzle blast, not the round. You can even see the powder under the "skin" around the hole.
Italian mob skit has to return as a rollin joke, loved it man!
Absolutely very interesting and realistic and reasonable fact that they were used for execution without making without making a big mess
Love this channel. However I totally thought I clicked on a Kentucky Ballistics video with that thumb nail lol
Maybe when Scott was about 12
Aside from the ballistics involved there are other reasons for using a 22 LR. The caliber is the most common in the world which would supposedly make it more difficult to trace or track down after a shooting should the bullet and or case be recovered. 22 LR handguns are easy to obtain and conceal. The flash, recoil and report of the 22 LR is less than other calibers.
Allegedly 🤣
Would a suppressor make any difference? A hit an needs to be quiet
It is a 22 short fired out of a pistol that does the pinball effect.
I love this theory you should do it in the body hitting different bones with different weighted rounds cause everyone says they are “hit man’s weapons” love your content btw.
Why don't you reuse that skull & refill it with clear jell so we can see what's really going on with out cutting it? Awesome video btw!!!
Back in the day they liked the 32 colt special. Center fire, cheap and just loud enough. Very effective in a two inch revolver.
You should try the cci quiet ammo, it's only 760 fps. I bet that would bounce around. Great video
Isn't this similar to why the 5.56 is said to enter one place, and if it decides to exit, it will be far removed from whence it entered ?
Me again! I would expect more of a spin around the inside of the skull instead of a pinball action.
Well now we need the other test...I've heard the same thing about shooting someone in the torso...that you can get the same "pinball" effect around the inside of the rib cage. I'm guessing the rib cage is more likely to allow an exit wound, since it's not a sealed bone dome, but would be interesting to test with a ballistic dummy.👍
Barrel length of the pistol or revolver will and choice of ammo makes a difference in overall penetration. Try it with a Heritage Rancher with a 16 inch barrel. Then use 22WMR.
It was said to be with a pistol and 22 short not 22lr. So you might have to do a part 3 or even try 22 short but swap out the lead with a BB just to see if steel makes a difference
I'm 49.9 years old and I've always heard the same thing about 22's. What this test showed me was not to use a hot round if I ever had to do something like this. Good Video👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
I think you should have used a 2" or 3" snub nose revolver, which would have been more akin to a pocket carry that a "Hit-Person" would have carried...
I think it might also have to do with the length of the barrel and the distance from the target. Also, a shot in a soft area such as "behind the ear" as everyone has mentioned might also have a different effect.