I did Said before But According to◊ Word of God, the original All-Stars line-up included Owen, Cody, and Brick, but last minute decisions had them replaced with Gwen and Sam, and the cast cut down to 14. However Owen still managed to get a cameo in the finale, while Cody was frequently mentioned by Sierra with his face appearing in her hallucinations. The same line-up also revealed plots that didn't make it into the season such as Courtney getting revenge on Heather, Duncan getting revenge on Courtney, the continuation of Zoey's commando persona, and Scott creating a new and improved strategy after analyzing past Total Drama episodes. Owen was dropped because according to rumors, Scott McCord declined to voice him for a whole season. Cody was dropped because they thought his relationship with Sierra had been fully played out in World Tour. Brick was replaced by Sam because the latter had "more drama potential". Anne Maria was also a part of the original cast before being replaced by an Island competitor (allegedly Gwen). And then there's a trailer from late 2011 (two months before Revenge of the Island aired and almost two years before All-Stars actually aired). Lightning was originally meant to have brown hair again, but the writers left it white. A scrapped storyline would have been about Lindsay and Tyler going under a break up. It was scrapped, however, and the two of them are canonically still together.
@@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110 Here's How I Rewrite All Stars: It Takes Place AFTER Pahkitew Island (Another Controversial Season) Which Means That We Could Have Got Characters From All 3 Generations Of Total Drama in All Stars! 1st Generation: Gwen Duncan Lindsay Courtney Heather Bridgette Geoff Owen Sierra Alejandro 2nd Generation: Mike Zoey Jo Lightning Cameron Scott Dawn 3rd Generation: Sky Shawn Jasmine Scarlett Max Sugar Amy Samey How You Like That?
I could see them keeping the heroes vs villains but they could add a 3rd team which are the neutral characters who did do evil acts and are still nice and I could see Harold being in this team for switching the votes and getting Courtney eliminated in tdi
Mal is my favourite villain The main 15 villains of the first 6 seasons ranked (the main 15 in my opinion) 15. Sugar 14. Justin 13. Lightning 12. Blainely Now it gets hard 11. Dave 10. Amy 9. Topher (bro is 100% a villain) 8. Courtney 7. Max 6. Jo 5. Scarlett 4. Alejandro 3/2. Scott/Heather 1. Mal
To be honest, I did a rewrite of Total Drama All Stars and I just rewrote Mal to be a normal personality of Mike. With Mal coming back after Mike thought he didn’t need Mal and pushed him deep down into his consciousness. When Scott hit him with the shovel, Mal, comes in and due to some closed trust issues and bullying, Mal’s goal is to win and to get out anyone that could hurt him emotionally or physically is out of the game. Mal also doesn’t want any of the other personality’s interfere with Mal keeping Mike safe, He locks them up. At the end of the series Mal loses and decides that not everyone will try to hurt Mike so he gives up trying to isolate Mike and Mal sits back as defense if things hit the fan.
Yeah, I've always thought that the first step in fixing All Stars would be to give it the full 26 episodes. There were so many potentially good storylines that only lasted one or two episodes at most because they devoted so much time to the whole Mike/Mal thing. Good ideas in theory, but very poorly executed. And the same goes for Mal's existence in itself: a good idea in theory: since all the other villains had already been exposed, it made sense for a new villain to rise up. And since they had someone with MPD already, it made sense that he would be that new villain. It was just incredibly poorly done.
The whole 13 episode thing wasn’t the animators or script creators fault The tv network that posted the show had made the intro have to be shorter and also shorten the seasons
I honestly loved this! Also when thinking of how to fix total drama allstars myself, I thought of scrapping it all together. And instead, have a Pros Vs Newbies season, with the Allstar cast against the Pathiew or however you spell it cast! And because the cast would be so big, there would be a final 3/4 as a fun twist, similar to The spin off ridonclous race
My way of fixing it starting from season 4 The cast instead of just the revenge cast I will merge them with the pahkihtio cast and to make it slightly less big the character I will keep out is Stacie The main antagonist in that season is Topher whi as I see it should have had a deal with Chris he will cause drama to boost the ratings and Chris will help him get farther in the game and will hook him up with an agency for modeling acting and hosting jobs, and also have he has a bit of a inner conflict doing these because he gains feelings to Sammy, he also the main reason why both amy and sugar are early boots and Scarlett didn't reach the merge, side plots Sammy learn to be her own person and not letting anyone hurt or abuse her anymore, mile × Zoey, brick jo and lightning rivalry, Shawn getting over his zombie phobia and learning how to socialize normally and start to have a crush on jasmine (plot for another season) with the help of dawn at the start and Dave Their 2nd season because I don't think one season is enough for them to develop Main antagonist Scarlett and Scott Main plots: Scarlett revenge, Scott and Scarlett alliance and one sided wants a romantic relationship, Skave, Sam × Dakota Side plots: sugar villainous Side, max × ella, lightning winning obsession, Cameron getting stronger 3rd season with these cast mainly to give some of them more screen time Main antagonist amy secondary antagonist lightning Main plots: amy seeks revenge and use lightning obsession to make him her lackey, dawn × b, Topher redemption, Topher × Sammy, dawn helping lightning calm down and managing his obsession Side plots: amy vs Sammy and Topher, Shawn × jasmine, b and beardo alliance, chef and brick learning a big secret, chef helping brick and jo get together as a couple Then having all stars but with the largest cast yet of 30 contestants
What if they made Mal be Mike with the evil side more control but Mal would consider Zoey and Cameron to be his friends and have a vendetta towards Scott for the blackmail last season
@@ListsofLegends also isn't it ironic despite being a focus character in both seasons we know nothing on Mike's family . One has to wonder on his parents thoughts on Mal as I doubt Mal would fall under the Even Bad men love there mama trope.
I would've loved to see Leshawna be in all stars and then her friendship with Gwen could actually be in the show and then also Courtney just throwing the chart away
I’ve heard that the reason why Lindsay was the first to be eliminated was because he VA had an family emergency I wish they could’ve got a fitting VA for her instead of her being eliminated in the first episode.
And I've heard that the reason why Lindsay was eliminated in Action was because her V.A had an family emergency, so they replaced her with BETH. Lindsay was supposed to be one of the finalists in Action.
And it's kinda obvious that Lindsay was the first to be eliminated in All-Stars, because the writers are hilarious to make the worst series on the show, and including Pahkitew Island I guess.
I could look into doing that but that would take a long time to produce and edit maybe a fixing total drama all stars part 3 lol but thanks for commenting I appreciate it!
I would have 24 contestants 9 Island/ World Tour contestants, 8 ROTI contestants & 7 Pahkitew Island contestants the cast would consist (Island/World Tour cast Heather, Courtney, Owen, Gwen, Harold, LeShawna, Alejandro, Cody & Duncan) (ROTI cast Mike, Zoey, Cameron, Jo, Lightning, Brick, Scott & Anne Maria) (Pahkitew Island cast Dave, Shawn, Sky, Sugar, Max, Topher & Jasmine)
1 getting a better cast exluding gen 1 for many reasons including sierra and alejandro 2 more interesting characters and dialogue 3 no love triange put both duncan and gwen on the heroes and courtney on the villians 4 using more underated charactewrs like ezekiel becoming normal,trent,tyler,bridgette,noah,cody,dj,harold,brick,dawn,eva.sadie and katie on diffrent teams etc 5 brick and jo would have a love hate relationship which i would love 6 better challenges 7 heather should of stayed longer 8 no feral zeke 9 chris being less sadistic and more caring and 10 more episodes and and a much larger cast giving the characters more of a time to shine its what made me hate on revenge of the island changing the formula on a smaller cast.
Cast: We have the same people just removing Sam and Sierra cuz yea while Sierra can be called an all star her plot point is basically done, she and Cody managed to be on good terms Cody accepting her etc. and Sam no goodbye we won't speak also Alejandro will have his original voice actor also there will be no villian in this season but unlike pakitew island it wont be as disappointing Pakitew island casts is also here 24 characters 30 episodes (no special just an aftermath) Gen 1: Owen: he is a must we need him here. Leshawna: she needs a redemption after season 3 and falling for Alejandro. Harold/Cody: same as Leshawna and Leshawna's character isn't really complete without Harold. Idk about Cody but he got 3rd place so cool Justin: he got 6th/7th place is action and he would have a grand rivalry or maybe an alliance with Alejandro. Gen 2: Anne Maria: She was eliminated right before the merge, and she could even be able to open up Vito like how Zoey brings out mike. Brick: Rivalry with Jo extremely heroic etc. Gen 3: Shawn And Sky: they were both in the finale. they will be here. Sugar: She was like the only true villain in this season as she caused 2 eliminations Ella and jasmine so she should be here Jasmine: Being in the final four she can make good friendships especially with Leshawna Scarlett: in My total drama universe Scarlett would never be fever Scarlett and she would use her brains to be the main villain with sugar taking her place after her elimination Dave/Topher: hear me out everyone hates him he would be a surprising villain enemy with sky and basically a punching bag in the villain's team, For Topher's case he was interesting I have no idea what his plot would be I feel like it would mainly be trying to win chris's trust this time to gain an advantage why max did get farther then both Dave and Topher be honest max is just going to be a first boot unless he gets carried by some other villain
elimination order 24th Lindsay: same as original (let's say Gwen makes her do it) 23rd Lighting: also same as original 22nd Jo: also same as original cause by brick too 21st: Sugar: in the pancake eating challenge Owen vs sugar to beat the pancake and Owen barley beat her costing them the win. 20th Justin: after a decent rivalry with Alejandro, it ends up being a tie and in the tie breaker Alejandro dominates. 19th Sky: Scott sabotaged her. 18th Scarlett: she was disqualified as she used a device in the challenge 17th: Gwen: Heather caused her elimination 16th Dave: everyone of the villians found him the weakest and since there was no one better to throw out they chose him 15th Jasmine: Scott Sabotaged the hero's team making them lose. and jasmine got blamed 14th Cameron: it was a purge and Cameron was last to finish 13th Heather: alejandro got revegene on her expect alejandro found the idol not heather 12th Mike: he was eliminated by for becoming vito due to anne maria costing the team the challgene *MERGE* 11th Anne Maria: she was an outcast without many allies so she was voted off 10th Owen: he thought scott was nice and on his side but scott along with duncan and alejandro voted him off
9th: Duncan: he was last in the boat challenge 8th: Shawn: Scott Alejandro and Courtney wanted to vote him out for being a challenge threat and they convinced Harold too brick and Shawn voted Scott while Zoey and Leshawna voted Alejandro so Shawn lost. 7th Scott: The remaining hamster decided to vote out some of the villians so they decided on scott 6th: Harold: while the villains were outnumbered alejandro used his charms and manged to convice zoey to vote harold and with it being a tie between harold and alejandro and we all now who wins that 5th alejando: while courtney agreed to bring alejandro with her to the finales she started doubting as alejandri would be a much harder oppennt then everyone else and by the end she switched sides and voted alejandro off *THE FINALE PART 1* Leshawna: she played a well game this season yet with the finale being a race across the island and action set the other 3 were much more faster and she ended up losing *THE FINALE PART 2* Brick: for the part 2 of the race they had to run through the mutant zone with brick being last in the race he loses *THE FINAL 2 COURTNEY VS ZOEY* Courtney's side: Scott Duncan Alejandro Heather Gwen Anne Maria sugar Scarlett Dave Lighting Zoey's side: Mike Brick Leshawna Harold Shawn Jasmine Owen Sky Jasmine Lindsay Jo Cameron Canon winner: courtney alternate winner: Zoey (but you could change these up if you like)
@@bentleywoods3034 if they replaced Sam with brick, Lindsay with Owen and sierra with Cody that would have been awesome, and I would add dawn,Justin,Anne Maria and Leshawna to name a few
When I knew b would be in here I was interested my finally would be b and dawn cause I always wanted to see them be a final 2 and I would want b to win and dawn as an alternite winner
Heroes vs Villains was stupid If you have all the lying schemers on one side and all the kind hearted people on the other, one team will have nothing going on and the other will have everything going on and it will feel choking
I can see that yes but that doesn’t mean they won’t have strategy or have counter attacks that would be interesting but thanks for commenting I appreciate it!
Courtney and Lindsay is my finale all the way. To me it makes the most sense. Both are characters very deserving of a win and it isn’t a friendship finale. It could be Courtney vs Zoey if you wanted it to be Island vs Revenge. Or perhaps Jo in the final. But it would definitely be two girl finalists to even out the gender number of the finalists because roti was two boys
I think Jo winning would be cool but I'm not sad that you chose Lindsay. She definetly deserved a W. At least they both win because of the winner changing in Canada.
@@ListsofLegends Yeah I know she was in the aftermath show and she was great in it, but I wish she was at least in the top 5 in one of her seasons. Do you disagree with that part (you don't have to agree btw)?
@@ListsofLegends Yeah that'd be great. If she had been in All-Stars and got revenge on Alejandro for what he did to her in World Tour, that would have been nice. And it would have been great to have Geoff back too.
Honestly, for the characters side of things? I disagree. If anything, if the characters that were there were of any indication, I think the characters that didn't make the cut (eg owen, harold, brick, dawn, etc) were spared from what I like to call character torture. If anything, I'd say Total Drama All Stars deserved FEWER episodes. Why? Because the longer it lasted, the more it spat in fans' faces.
@@ListsofLegends also, a year later, but like, especially in action's case, remove the reward episodes and the aftermaths, and you got a show that is almost as long as the later seasons.
I would have done it after TDPI and made it a 18-22 person cast From TDI Owen Gwen Heather Duncan Leshawna/Lindsay (I truly can't decide) Harold Courtney From TDWT Alejandro From TDRI Cameron Lightning Zoey Scott Jo Mike Brick From TDPI Shawn Sky Sugar Jasmine Max/Dave/Topher (cause tbh either could work) Amy Samey This would have been PERFECT Heroes Owen Leshawna/Lindsay Harold Cameron Zoey Mike Brick Shawn Sky Jasmine Samey Villains Gwen Heather Duncan Courtney Alejandro Lightning Scott Jo Sugar Max/Dave/Topher Amy ALTERNATIVELY I think we could keep the plot line of Gwen being on the villains team but instead swap her out for Samey and have Samey be on the villains team for cheating. She would be all upset at being a villain similar to Gwen. This would put Gwen on the Heroes team. But tbh Idc And no I didn't consider Dawn or Anne Maria or Sierra because I knew TDRI had mostly focused on its male contestants while TDPI mostly focused on its female contestants. They would need to mirror each other with a 5:2 gender ratio. Jo and Zoey, Shawn and Dave/Max/Topher. All three of those could play a role on the villains team with Dave and Max being early outs while Topher could potentially grow as a villain, going past the need to host the show and instead switch his focus to just making Good TV. For me, Scarlett is NEVER considered to return again after holding the show hostage, threatening to kill the cast and crew, and attempting to kill Chris personally. I am also a firm believer that Leshawna was robbed of an All Stars appearance. Lindsay is an excellent choice as well but I feel like Leshawna could have offered more story wise. Lindsay is at her best when she has an enemy to stand up to and I just don't see her getting involved in any new dramas whereas Leshawna would definitely get drama going. Plus with Harold present, I think Leshawna is the better choice over Lindsay but I'd let yall decide that instead.
I could see it like that, Leshawna was teased for all stars during the promos before the season came out I think having her over serria would definitely be a lot better
A little idea for fanfiction writers: Any character can be the villain if they have a motive!
Trueeee
I did Said before But According to◊ Word of God, the original All-Stars line-up included Owen, Cody, and Brick, but last minute decisions had them replaced with Gwen and Sam, and the cast cut down to 14. However Owen still managed to get a cameo in the finale, while Cody was frequently mentioned by Sierra with his face appearing in her hallucinations. The same line-up also revealed plots that didn't make it into the season such as Courtney getting revenge on Heather, Duncan getting revenge on Courtney, the continuation of Zoey's commando persona, and Scott creating a new and improved strategy after analyzing past Total Drama episodes.
Owen was dropped because according to rumors, Scott McCord declined to voice him for a whole season.
Cody was dropped because they thought his relationship with Sierra had been fully played out in World Tour.
Brick was replaced by Sam because the latter had "more drama potential".
Anne Maria was also a part of the original cast before being replaced by an Island competitor (allegedly Gwen).
And then there's a trailer from late 2011 (two months before Revenge of the Island aired and almost two years before All-Stars actually aired).
Lightning was originally meant to have brown hair again, but the writers left it white.
A scrapped storyline would have been about Lindsay and Tyler going under a break up. It was scrapped, however, and the two of them are canonically still together.
I would've love to see Lindsay won in All Stars but I guess the writters just miss her change in Action
Exactly would have been a nice change and thanks for commenting I appreciate it!
@@ListsofLegends ur welcome
It almost feels like the writers of All-Stars didn't even watch Action
@@art_fright228 she should’ve won action imo
@@ethanalgicosathlonchannel1110 Here's How I Rewrite All Stars: It Takes Place AFTER Pahkitew Island (Another Controversial Season) Which Means That We Could Have Got Characters From All 3 Generations Of Total Drama in All Stars!
1st Generation:
Gwen
Duncan
Lindsay
Courtney
Heather
Bridgette
Geoff
Owen
Sierra
Alejandro
2nd Generation:
Mike
Zoey
Jo
Lightning
Cameron
Scott
Dawn
3rd Generation:
Sky
Shawn
Jasmine
Scarlett
Max
Sugar
Amy
Samey
How You Like That?
I could see them keeping the heroes vs villains but they could add a 3rd team which are the neutral characters who did do evil acts and are still nice and I could see Harold being in this team for switching the votes and getting Courtney eliminated in tdi
Possibilities are endless tbh lol
@@ListsofLegends true but ng lie though I would kinda Wanna see a brick and jo finale
@@nuggetyoshi5119 I was considering that too as well as maybe leshawna vs Scott lot of final twos I could see on the horizon
@@ListsofLegends you've got a point there but I can see why you got rid of sierra and Sam
@@nuggetyoshi5119 yeah they just didn’t fit in with the whole “all stars” theme to me
Mal is my favourite villain
The main 15 villains of the first 6 seasons ranked (the main 15 in my opinion)
15. Sugar
14. Justin
13. Lightning
12. Blainely
Now it gets hard
11. Dave
10. Amy
9. Topher (bro is 100% a villain)
8. Courtney
7. Max
6. Jo
5. Scarlett
4. Alejandro
3/2. Scott/Heather
1. Mal
To be honest, I did a rewrite of Total Drama All Stars and I just rewrote Mal to be a normal personality of Mike. With Mal coming back after Mike thought he didn’t need Mal and pushed him deep down into his consciousness. When Scott hit him with the shovel, Mal, comes in and due to some closed trust issues and bullying, Mal’s goal is to win and to get out anyone that could hurt him emotionally or physically is out of the game. Mal also doesn’t want any of the other personality’s interfere with Mal keeping Mike safe, He locks them up. At the end of the series Mal loses and decides that not everyone will try to hurt Mike so he gives up trying to isolate Mike and Mal sits back as defense if things hit the fan.
Good job! Your editing is very clean :)
Thank you so much!
Heyo mystic! And agreed!
Hi Mystic Dream Catcher. Big fan.
Hi Mystic
Yooo hi mysthic
Yeah, I've always thought that the first step in fixing All Stars would be to give it the full 26 episodes. There were so many potentially good storylines that only lasted one or two episodes at most because they devoted so much time to the whole Mike/Mal thing. Good ideas in theory, but very poorly executed.
And the same goes for Mal's existence in itself: a good idea in theory: since all the other villains had already been exposed, it made sense for a new villain to rise up. And since they had someone with MPD already, it made sense that he would be that new villain. It was just incredibly poorly done.
Well said
The whole 13 episode thing wasn’t the animators or script creators fault
The tv network that posted the show had made the intro have to be shorter and also shorten the seasons
lindsay got voted out first because she wanted to be voted out, she opted out of staying in the challange because it was so difficult.
They just made her too dumb
@@ListsofLegends true
@@ListsofLegends she was basically just cannon fodder
@@ListsofLegends atleast she didn't accidently vote herself this time, it was on purpose.
I honestly loved this!
Also when thinking of how to fix total drama allstars myself, I thought of scrapping it all together. And instead, have a Pros Vs Newbies season, with the Allstar cast against the Pathiew or however you spell it cast! And because the cast would be so big, there would be a final 3/4 as a fun twist, similar to The spin off ridonclous race
That’s honestly brilliant I would love to see gen 1 vs 2 vs 3 3 teams just like world tour
Chris: kicks Sierra out of the game for blowing up his plane.
Also Chris: invites her back for all stars.
I wondered about that too another Derailment lol haa
My way of fixing it starting from season 4
The cast instead of just the revenge cast I will merge them with the pahkihtio cast and to make it slightly less big the character I will keep out is Stacie
The main antagonist in that season is Topher whi as I see it should have had a deal with Chris he will cause drama to boost the ratings and Chris will help him get farther in the game and will hook him up with an agency for modeling acting and hosting jobs, and also have he has a bit of a inner conflict doing these because he gains feelings to Sammy, he also the main reason why both amy and sugar are early boots and Scarlett didn't reach the merge, side plots Sammy learn to be her own person and not letting anyone hurt or abuse her anymore, mile × Zoey, brick jo and lightning rivalry, Shawn getting over his zombie phobia and learning how to socialize normally and start to have a crush on jasmine (plot for another season) with the help of dawn at the start and Dave
Their 2nd season because I don't think one season is enough for them to develop
Main antagonist Scarlett and Scott
Main plots: Scarlett revenge, Scott and Scarlett alliance and one sided wants a romantic relationship, Skave, Sam × Dakota
Side plots: sugar villainous Side, max × ella, lightning winning obsession, Cameron getting stronger
3rd season with these cast mainly to give some of them more screen time
Main antagonist amy secondary antagonist lightning
Main plots: amy seeks revenge and use lightning obsession to make him her lackey, dawn × b, Topher redemption, Topher × Sammy, dawn helping lightning calm down and managing his obsession
Side plots: amy vs Sammy and Topher, Shawn × jasmine, b and beardo alliance, chef and brick learning a big secret, chef helping brick and jo get together as a couple
Then having all stars but with the largest cast yet of 30 contestants
Wow very well thought out, that’s a fix in my book!
What if they made Mal be Mike with the evil side more control but Mal would consider Zoey and Cameron to be his friends and have a vendetta towards Scott for the blackmail last season
That would be something, have layers to Mal’s character would make him better rather than him just being made up of evil
@@ListsofLegends also isn't it ironic despite being a focus character in both seasons we know nothing on Mike's family . One has to wonder on his parents thoughts on Mal as I doubt Mal would fall under the Even Bad men love there mama trope.
I would've loved to see Leshawna be in all stars and then her friendship with Gwen could actually be in the show and then also Courtney just throwing the chart away
My Opinions-
(Brick replaces Sam. He's friendly with the trio, but will play a semi important foil to them)
(Ep. 1) Sierra (6: Sierra, 1: Courtney)
(Ep. 2) Mike (3: Mike, 3: Lindsay)
(Ep. 3) Duncan (5: Duncan, 2: Gwen)
(Ep. 4) Lightning (4: Lightning, 2: Jo)
(Ep. 5) N/A (Reward)
(Ep. 6) Zoey (3: Zoey, 2: Brick)
(Ep. 7) Alejandro (1: Alejandro)
(Heather uses an idol on herself)
*MERGE*
(Ep. 8) Gwen (Heather's sole vote)
(Ep. 9) Jo (3: Jo, 2: Heather, 1: Cameron, 1: Scott)
(Heather was immune)
(Ep. 10) Heather (5: Heather, 1:Lindsay)
(Courtney was immune)
(Ep. 11) Brick (3: Brick, 2: Scott)
(Lindsay was immune)
(Ep. 12) Cameron (Auto-Elim)
Scott (Lindsay's sole vote)
(Ep. 13) Courtney VS Lindsay
Lindsay wins!
Cant argue with that 👍🏽
I swear, every one of these All Stars remake videos is sleeping on the potential of Justin vs Alejandro
Might be coming in my Final Fixing of Total Drama All Stars 👀
I’ve heard that the reason why Lindsay was the first to be eliminated was because he VA had an family emergency I wish they could’ve got a fitting VA for her instead of her being eliminated in the first episode.
I’ll look into that if that is the case it’s understandable of course but sad yeah her character ended so soon
And I've heard that the reason why Lindsay was eliminated in Action was because her V.A had an family emergency, so they replaced her with BETH. Lindsay was supposed to be one of the finalists in Action.
And it's kinda obvious that Lindsay was the first to be eliminated in All-Stars, because the writers are hilarious to make the worst series on the show, and including Pahkitew Island I guess.
@@juanraphaelcoronado101 haha tru tru
@@juanraphaelcoronado101 I’ve kept hearing it was all stars than action but from I’m seeing so online it seems that’s the case
I like Mike winning just make map a way better smarter villain so the other characters don’t act stupid in order to make him win
I think this is the season where you might as well have made it yourself tbh with your own casts and challenges, would make more sense really
I could look into doing that but that would take a long time to produce and edit maybe a fixing total drama all stars part 3 lol but thanks for commenting I appreciate it!
@@ListsofLegends i know, it puts me off as well, but i know for certain what cast i would use
YESSS IM SO HAPPY THAT LINDSAY WOULD BE THE WINNER!
Shes my favorite and deserved the win
Glad to hear! She can buy all the lip gloss she wants
@@ListsofLegends Definitely, she deserves it all! :)
I would have 24 contestants 9 Island/ World Tour contestants, 8 ROTI contestants & 7 Pahkitew Island contestants the cast would consist (Island/World Tour cast Heather, Courtney, Owen, Gwen, Harold, LeShawna, Alejandro, Cody & Duncan)
(ROTI cast Mike, Zoey, Cameron, Jo, Lightning, Brick, Scott & Anne Maria)
(Pahkitew Island cast Dave, Shawn, Sky, Sugar, Max, Topher & Jasmine)
Pretty nice, Cast looks good!
1 getting a better cast exluding gen 1 for many reasons including sierra and alejandro
2 more interesting characters and dialogue
3 no love triange put both duncan and gwen on the heroes and courtney on the villians
4 using more underated charactewrs like ezekiel becoming normal,trent,tyler,bridgette,noah,cody,dj,harold,brick,dawn,eva.sadie and katie on diffrent teams etc
5 brick and jo would have a love hate relationship which i would love
6 better challenges
7 heather should of stayed longer
8 no feral zeke
9 chris being less sadistic and more caring
and 10
more episodes and and a much larger cast giving the characters more of a time to shine
its what made me hate on revenge of the island changing the formula on a smaller cast.
Pretty good
Cast: We have the same people just removing Sam and Sierra cuz yea while Sierra can be called an all star her plot point is basically done, she and Cody managed to be on good terms Cody accepting her etc. and Sam no goodbye we won't speak also Alejandro will have his original voice actor also there will be no villian in this season but unlike pakitew island it wont be as disappointing
Pakitew island casts is also here 24 characters 30 episodes (no special just an aftermath)
Gen 1:
Owen: he is a must we need him here.
Leshawna: she needs a redemption after season 3 and falling for Alejandro.
Harold/Cody: same as Leshawna and Leshawna's character isn't really complete without Harold. Idk about Cody but he got 3rd place so cool
Justin: he got 6th/7th place is action and he would have a grand rivalry or maybe an alliance with Alejandro.
Gen 2:
Anne Maria: She was eliminated right before the merge, and she could even be able to open up Vito like how Zoey brings out mike.
Brick: Rivalry with Jo extremely heroic etc.
Gen 3:
Shawn And Sky: they were both in the finale. they will be here.
Sugar: She was like the only true villain in this season as she caused 2 eliminations Ella and jasmine so she should be here
Jasmine: Being in the final four she can make good friendships especially with Leshawna
Scarlett: in My total drama universe Scarlett would never be fever Scarlett and she would use her brains to be the main villain with sugar taking her place after her elimination
Dave/Topher: hear me out everyone hates him he would be a surprising villain enemy with sky and basically a punching bag in the villain's team, For Topher's case he was interesting I have no idea what his plot would be I feel like it would mainly be trying to win chris's trust this time to gain an advantage why max did get farther then both Dave and Topher be honest max is just going to be a first boot unless he gets carried by some other villain
elimination order
24th Lindsay: same as original (let's say Gwen makes her do it)
23rd Lighting: also same as original
22nd Jo: also same as original cause by brick too
21st: Sugar: in the pancake eating challenge Owen vs sugar to beat the pancake and Owen barley beat her costing them the win.
20th Justin: after a decent rivalry with Alejandro, it ends up being a tie and in the tie breaker Alejandro dominates.
19th Sky: Scott sabotaged her.
18th Scarlett: she was disqualified as she used a device in the challenge
17th: Gwen: Heather caused her elimination
16th Dave: everyone of the villians found him the weakest and since there was no one better to throw out they chose him
15th Jasmine: Scott Sabotaged the hero's team making them lose. and jasmine got blamed
14th Cameron: it was a purge and Cameron was last to finish
13th Heather: alejandro got revegene on her expect alejandro found the idol not heather
12th Mike: he was eliminated by for becoming vito due to anne maria costing the team the challgene
*MERGE*
11th Anne Maria: she was an outcast without many allies so she was voted off
10th Owen: he thought scott was nice and on his side but scott along with duncan and alejandro voted him off
9th: Duncan: he was last in the boat challenge
8th: Shawn: Scott Alejandro and Courtney wanted to vote him out for being a challenge threat and they convinced Harold too brick and Shawn voted Scott while Zoey and Leshawna voted Alejandro so Shawn lost.
7th Scott: The remaining hamster decided to vote out some of the villians so they decided on scott
6th: Harold: while the villains were outnumbered alejandro used his charms and manged to convice zoey to vote harold and with it being a tie between harold and alejandro and we all now who wins that
5th alejando: while courtney agreed to bring alejandro with her to the finales she started doubting as alejandri would be a much harder oppennt then everyone else and by the end she switched sides and voted alejandro off
*THE FINALE PART 1*
Leshawna: she played a well game this season yet with the finale being a race across the island and action set the other 3 were much more faster and she ended up losing
*THE FINALE PART 2*
Brick: for the part 2 of the race they had to run through the mutant zone with brick being last in the race he loses
*THE FINAL 2 COURTNEY VS ZOEY*
Courtney's side: Scott Duncan Alejandro Heather Gwen Anne Maria sugar Scarlett Dave Lighting
Zoey's side: Mike Brick Leshawna Harold Shawn Jasmine Owen Sky Jasmine Lindsay Jo Cameron
Canon winner: courtney
alternate winner: Zoey (but you could change these up if you like)
If they added dawn we would see a rivalry between dawn and Scott
I agree jacob hall
@@bentleywoods3034 plus like what Scott did she would get revenge
@@jacobhall7376 yeah that's to
@@bentleywoods3034 if they replaced Sam with brick, Lindsay with Owen and sierra with Cody that would have been awesome, and I would add dawn,Justin,Anne Maria and Leshawna to name a few
@@jacobhall7376 l would add owen brick Harald drawn annie.maria
Editing clean thooooo
When I knew b would be in here I was interested my finally would be b and dawn cause I always wanted to see them be a final 2 and I would want b to win and dawn as an alternite winner
i think izzy should be in sierra's place in all stars
Yeah I don’t hear much about Izzy I definitely would choose her over sierria any day
And I think Brick should be in Sam's place in this series.
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Heroes vs Villains was stupid
If you have all the lying schemers on one side and all the kind hearted people on the other, one team will have nothing going on and the other will have everything going on and it will feel choking
I can see that yes but that doesn’t mean they won’t have strategy or have counter attacks that would be interesting but thanks for commenting I appreciate it!
@@ListsofLegends yeah it couldve worked but all-stars just made the heroes extra good (besides Courtney who switched anyway)
do the same to fixing with Pahkitew Island
Probably an unpopular opinion but for the finale it should’ve been 1 from the OG series and 1 from ROTI not 2 from the same season
It’s alright I see your pov it could be either for me at the end day ngl
Courtney and Lindsay is my finale all the way. To me it makes the most sense. Both are characters very deserving of a win and it isn’t a friendship finale. It could be Courtney vs Zoey if you wanted it to be Island vs Revenge. Or perhaps Jo in the final. But it would definitely be two girl finalists to even out the gender number of the finalists because roti was two boys
Yesssss
I think Jo winning would be cool but I'm not sad that you chose Lindsay. She definetly deserved a W. At least they both win because of the winner changing in Canada.
Good point I forgot about that lol
I wish Zoey wasn't so stupid this season
Like sure almost everyone was stupid but she seemed too gullible
I'd have brought Bridgette back. Wanted her in at least the top 5 in one of her seasons and she deserved better than what she was given.
Well she did have a lot of time in the after math show but I hear ya, all stars gave us a pretty disappointing season
@@ListsofLegends Yeah I know she was in the aftermath show and she was great in it, but I wish she was at least in the top 5 in one of her seasons. Do you disagree with that part (you don't have to agree btw)?
@@bevanborges4047 I’m all her for her returning depending on her role or maybe even have Geoff tag along with her
@@ListsofLegends Yeah that'd be great. If she had been in All-Stars and got revenge on Alejandro for what he did to her in World Tour, that would have been nice. And it would have been great to have Geoff back too.
@@bevanborges4047 Agreed. I have a final part 3 to fixing total drama all stars coming soon :)
Honestly, for the characters side of things? I disagree. If anything, if the characters that were there were of any indication, I think the characters that didn't make the cut (eg owen, harold, brick, dawn, etc) were spared from what I like to call character torture. If anything, I'd say Total Drama All Stars deserved FEWER episodes. Why? Because the longer it lasted, the more it spat in fans' faces.
I respect your opinion and will definitely agree on the note that fewer episodes means less torture to watch lol
@@ListsofLegends also, a year later, but like, especially in action's case, remove the reward episodes and the aftermaths, and you got a show that is almost as long as the later seasons.
Sam should still be in total drama all stars tbh
Total Drama Ultimate All Stars?
That’s a really good title for the show if all stars was going to redone
I would have done it after TDPI and made it a 18-22 person cast
From TDI
Owen
Gwen
Heather
Duncan
Leshawna/Lindsay (I truly can't decide)
Harold
Courtney
From TDWT
Alejandro
From TDRI
Cameron
Lightning
Zoey
Scott
Jo
Mike
Brick
From TDPI
Shawn
Sky
Sugar
Jasmine
Max/Dave/Topher (cause tbh either could work)
Amy
Samey
This would have been PERFECT
Heroes
Owen
Leshawna/Lindsay
Harold
Cameron
Zoey
Mike
Brick
Shawn
Sky
Jasmine
Samey
Villains
Gwen
Heather
Duncan
Courtney
Alejandro
Lightning
Scott
Jo
Sugar
Max/Dave/Topher
Amy
ALTERNATIVELY I think we could keep the plot line of Gwen being on the villains team but instead swap her out for Samey and have Samey be on the villains team for cheating. She would be all upset at being a villain similar to Gwen. This would put Gwen on the Heroes team. But tbh Idc
And no I didn't consider Dawn or Anne Maria or Sierra because I knew TDRI had mostly focused on its male contestants while TDPI mostly focused on its female contestants. They would need to mirror each other with a 5:2 gender ratio. Jo and Zoey, Shawn and Dave/Max/Topher. All three of those could play a role on the villains team with Dave and Max being early outs while Topher could potentially grow as a villain, going past the need to host the show and instead switch his focus to just making Good TV.
For me, Scarlett is NEVER considered to return again after holding the show hostage, threatening to kill the cast and crew, and attempting to kill Chris personally.
I am also a firm believer that Leshawna was robbed of an All Stars appearance. Lindsay is an excellent choice as well but I feel like Leshawna could have offered more story wise. Lindsay is at her best when she has an enemy to stand up to and I just don't see her getting involved in any new dramas whereas Leshawna would definitely get drama going. Plus with Harold present, I think Leshawna is the better choice over Lindsay but I'd let yall decide that instead.
I could see it like that, Leshawna was teased for all stars during the promos before the season came out I think having her over serria would definitely be a lot better
How is Gwen a villain
tbh anne naria should've been added
yes
Nah Lindsay finalist is not great