Dual Sport vs Adventure Bike: What's the Difference Between Dual Sport and Adventure Motorcycles?
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- What's the difference between a dual sport and adventure motorcycle? These two types of off road bike have many similarities, but just as many differences. To an outsider or someone new to the world of motorcycles, it can be hard to see what makes a motorcycle a dual sport vs adventure bike.
In general, dual sports get more of their DNA from dirt bikes, including their ergonomics and overall look. Adventure bikes, however, get more of their DNA from their street bike ancestors, and are generally heavier and perform better on the road than a true dual sport. Adventure motorcycles tend to be bigger with larger engines, while dual sport bikes tend to be narrower and have smaller, single-cylinder engines.
A third question people often ask is what's the difference dual sport vs adventure vs enduro motorcycles? Enduro bikes tend to be almost pure dirt bikes, with just a few concessions/additions like turn signals and tail lights added to make them barely street legal.
Obviously there are exceptions to every rule, but this video covers the general characteristics of dual sport vs adventure bikes, and after watching you should have a far more clear idea of the differences and similarities between dual sport and adventure motorcycles.
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I'm happy to say that I found the perfect ADV for my 74 y.o. body in the Versys-X 300. It is capable of running 75 on Texas highways, but it is really happy running 55 and 60 on 2 lane country roads. I average 60 mpg and the tank holds 4.5 gal. of gas. What's not to love.
Love the last line. "I''d pick the Honda!" Yeah, me too since I now have the 250L and the 1000L.
You have great taste in bikes!
@@DorkintheRoad To be honest, I have gone through a lot of different bikes in my 60+ years from Beemers to VStroms and it's finally come down to these two. I don't think you can have much more fun than with a 250L in the woods and the AT is just a great all around exploring machine.
In m day we called them all a Enduro
lmao my dad said the same thing
I totally agree with you on "get both, if you can". I'm just buying a CRF300L next to my TDM900A (which is more like a sport-tourer than an adventure bike but I've seen some people using TDM's for heavier off-road stuff).
Don’t know how I didn’t see this one before but very good job !! I think this style is really what drew me to your channel :) Dirty and Streety I love it !
As a new rider, I originally intended to buy a dual-sport in the 250cc range and then graduate to an adventure bike. I was thinking just owning one bike at a time. After talking with several dealers they said after a few months I would want to get the adventure bike so why not get it first. At the time that seemed to make sense. After an enjoyable but exhaustive search I picked a V-Strom 1000XT. I really do like it and do not regret my choice; however, I think I missed out on the learning and enjoyment I could have got on gravel/dirt with the dual sport. I think my error was in just thinking one bike - I should have been thinking two all along. So now I’m actively looking for a smaller dual sport. I see the smaller dual sport as complimenting the adventure bike, and hope that riding the dual sport makes me a better adventure bike rider. Of all the UA-cam channels I have watched your rides on gravel/dirt and a few trails most closely matches what I want to do. No super hard stuff. I’m a heavier rider and turn 57 this year. Now that you have the AT are you going to pursue Adventure Touring or treat it as a very large dual sport?
Plan is to use it as an adventure touring/motocamping/longer out and back day trip machine. I feel like it opens up a lot of new possibilities for me.
This is a great overview. Thanks for the video.
Great informative video. Thanks
Nice overview man, thanks.
Great insight into "what it is"........... thanks dork
I'm a wife with that same question 🤔Thank you ! for the analogy (2 bikes fall in love 😃). Now I understand 👍. I'm a very green newbie , your video really helped. Love your video
Good comparison, I went middle ground with the KLR, but my two would be the DL650 and KLX250. It's pretty easy to get caught up in the marketing hype and buy expensive bikes that do much the same as the cheapies, maybe with a bit more style.
Great bikes!
Love this video, man. Keep it up
Dude that's the best example, it totally makes sense You sir have gain a new follower
Just an interesting history note: Adventure bikes originated out of "street registerable" versions of factory Paris/Dakar rally bikes which are truly off-road bikes, but over the years they've gone soft and gained more street bias. Dual sports began out of scramblers which, as you mentioned last night, were, for the most part, street bikes with dirt tires and gradually became more dirt worthy. Now days, you're assessment is pretty spot on.
I appreciate the historical context!
@@DorkintheRoad I'd say that the first dual sport was the yamaha xt500. It's the great grandfather of the Ténéré.
Excellent video! I was wondering if you would do a comparison video between a dirt bike and a supermoto? My understanding is a supermoto allows longer street mileage and provides full off road capability. I could use some of your expertise to help me make the right decision. Thanks!
I love your explanation, awesome video. So !! If a dual sport and an adventure bike mated ..... they would have a ducati scrambler desert sled !! Yes ???
I enjoyed the Dr. DITR course. Keep it up!
LOL I love it. Thanks for watching!
Love the explanation and analogies
I've just been brushing up on my motorcycle knowledge after being out of the game for 30 years. I've convinced myself that I want to put together the "Dream" adventure dual sport bike. So I've viewed hundreds of videos and came to almost the same conclusion this guy has. I would split the line on the Suzuki DR650S just over the dual sport line and the KLR650 just over the adventure line. Coming from mainly a dirt bike background I've chosen the Honda XR650L to build off of. Strangely the first bike I ever had was a 1974 XR75 when I was 11, straight of the showroom floor, and was mostly self taught. I'm sure I had more hours if not miles riding the crap out of that bike than any other bike I owned. It cost me 3 levers and gas and the occasional oil top off a chain and tire. My dad finally sold it with just a tune up and new muffler in the late 80's. By then I had a 85 CR250 and a mid 70's Kawasaki 750 twin sport bike. I ended on those notes. Now it's a Jeep and convertible Mustang in the Garage. I've got one last hurrah left in me and am going to see if I can get 5-6 year good riding before I sell the new project.
So, I had a 1973 Yamaha 250cc single cyl Enduro, that I bought almost new. Put a lot of miles on it, wish I still had it. Thought it was too top heavy for the trail, but too light for the street. Although, I rode it both places. I took off the metal front fender and added a fork brace with a plastic fender about 10” above the front wheel. I also changed the straight stock exhaust pipe for one that was more upswept to keep the creek water out of it. It had lights with turn signals to make it street legal. It was a two stroke, but had an oil tank, so you didn’t have to mix the oil and gas, the bike did it for you; just keep the oil tank above the sight-glass level, and you’re good.
Had the Yamaha 1974 DT125 Enduro bought new for around $800 IIRC. Rode it a few thousand miles stock. Polished the ports, added a Hooker header and rejetted the carb. Whole new animal after that. Wish I kept it as well.
great video.....I always thought of a dual sport as an enduro. A MX or motorcross bike with a headlight, a quieter muffler, turn signals and a horn. Perhaps even 4 stroke. Thus making it street legal. New sub here. I just got back into off road riding and will be picking up my 2023 Triumph Tiger 900 Rally Pro tomorrow...coming from Harley baggers to intergrade my camping and hiking adventures with my passion for motorcycles. As an avid outdoor guy I know how to back pack and survive in the wild now if I can just figure out how to balance my wife and camping gear on to my bike I will be very excited.
Keep em coming bro ...
Nice videos
Thanks for watching!
watching this vid and saving to my favorites so I can convince my wife as to why I need another bike... when Im ready for Adventure riding! lol. thank you Dork!
It worked for me, so it can work for you too!
I'm a wife and I now understand, you have my permission to buy one of each.
Great video! Dual Sport all the way for me. Thanks.
THANKS FOR EXPLANATION😊
Nice explanation.
Last week I rode my Honda Rally from Brunswick Ga. to Orlando fla via Ocala.. over 500 miles on 2 and 4 lane...lol. my Africa Single...
Damn. Impressive.
Nice!
A guy on Facebook posted that he rode 1200 miles on his Rally in one weekend and was complaining that his butt was sore. 200 miles is enough for me. More than that and the bike goes on the truck.
@@screddot7074 I have the Seat Concepts seat on my bike.. and a Sheepskin pad I got from Everide....
Excellent comparison video. I'm still saving my lunch for an Africa Twin.
You won't regret it!
Great vid! My wife just doesn’t get it. She thinks I already have one too many bikes. I say I have one too few 😜👍🏻
Blooper reel 🤣🤣🤣
Always one too few...
What is this "too many bikes" thing she talks about? Is that a new fish?
Great video. Had to share this with an idiot who says this: "Adventure bikes are just long distance dualsport bikes…how well they do dirt vs. road is immaterial to the definition."
Good video, thanks for doing this. I have to say, I first bought a road bike (Victory Cross Country Tour) because I like taking 5 - 7 day trips, but I missed trail riding like I did in my youth. Still, I didn't want to give up my Victory. So I bought a DR 650 to sit next to my Victory. That DR 650 is great for my kind of trail riding (slow exploring with lots of rubber necking), but at the same time it'll do 65 - 70 mph all day on the highway. So this year I put a windscreen and better seat on it. Now I'm putting luggage on it, and I'm planning to ride it from Northern Michigan (my home) to Moab Utah for a week of off-roading. I think this is might be a middle weight ADV bike, the way I have it set up. It's done great packing a tent and camping gear all around my state, but this will be the big test. If it works out, I think I'll have the perfect ADV/Dual Sport bike. I'll know for sure when this silly quarantine ends, and I can take off on the big trip. Looking forward to your next video!
I've heard great things about the DR650 as an all arounder. Sounds like you have a great trip planned. Hopefully you still get to take it.
I hope you had a great trip to Moab. My 2013 Husqvarna TR650 Terra is more of a middle of the road bike like yours. It's called a dual sport, but it has an adjustable windscreen, hand warmers, abs braking etc... It weighs 405 lbs and the major difference I see from the dual sports to the adv bikes is the front fender on the dual sports is higher up like dirt bikes where the front fender on adv bikes is closer to the front tire. You can add panniers and a top box to these bikes which makes them look like adventure bikes, but with more off road capabilities. But like your bike, I can ride at 70mph all day long on the freeway with a liquid cooled engine. Maybe we figured out how to have the perfect adventure bikes with superior off road capabilities at fraction of the cost!!!
The exception to the rule is Chris Birch. Practically doing trials stuff on an 1190
great video but there are bikes like the DR 650 witch you can add a 20 liter gas tank to and put on very good 50/50 tires I us the Dunlop TrailMaz Mission and they are very good off road been through a lot with them and the DR 650 is great on the highway with these tires love hitting the windy roads, on it and some of the roads I do are more like trails with grass growing up the center, and mud with deep ruts and deep sand. To me this a true Duel Sport. for those who can only afford one bike. Also if you want one that has all the bells and whistles there is the KTM 390 Adventure I put 33/46 liter GIVI Trekker hard bags on mine as well as upgrading the skid plate and hand guards form KTM I do have heated grips on bough you can put heated grips on a duel sport. I for one need them. I have also taken the KTM on some very rough dirt and gravel roads and some trails but it is lacking ground clearance so have to take it slower. which I tend to do any way. Again another great bike for some on who can only have one bike. Me I am like you I want more than one bike and am still waiting for my CRF 300 L witch I will be doing mostly gnarly off road on so going with Dunlop D606 tire rear and Pirelli MT.21 front. Also the KTM 390 Adventure is a very good price and 7500 maintenance intervals it has traction control you can turn off ABS off road and on road settings adjustable suspension front and rear and more bells and whistles than most will ever use. Also the KTM 390 Adventure is 348 lb. ( 158 Kg ) So quite light for a ADV bike. Just though I would let people know about these for those who only want one bike and want something more road capable than the CRF 300 L or Rally, and still do great off road. The KTM gas tank is only 14.5 liters but I still can get over 400 Km per tank ( 250 Miles )
Great video!!!!, finally someone could explain and clear my confusion. I couldn't figure out the difference for a long time and nice explanation though. P.S nice reference to biology 😂
Glad it helped!
Awesome, completely understand now.👍
How bold, you created a video to justify buying new motorcycle, i need to do this and show my wife
Totally agree with what you said mate 😁👌still use the DR for longer big trips and the TTR250 for when i know the trail could be a challenge🤣🤣👍
keep well mate and keep safe😁😁🍺
That's the best way to use them both that I've found so far. Thanks for watching!
I also like your Bourbon collection👍🏻
Thanks. Clear and clear. Thanks.
Thanks for watching!
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I think my Royal Enfield himalayan is right smack-dab in the middle of both adventure and duel sport maybe call it an adventure sport 🤔 great video!
Justin Goin I’ve been giving some thought to a Himalayan instead of a 250cc dual sport. The price is actually similar or less. Do you ride yours in areas similar to a DITR? Also I’m a big guy (6’2” 265+ with gear). Would the Himalayan work for someone like me?
Great video.
Does the KLR. With the adjustable center stand have lower links. I dropped mine a couple inches and thought about getting a centerstand
My dual sport, sold here in Indonesia as a VIAR CrossX 150, is my daily commuter. The roads are so bad here, especially in the rainy season that it has become my vehicle of choice. It is another "Chinese" bike assembled here, very similar to your Bross....
That's the beauty of a dual sport. It'll do it all!
Well done !
Enjoyed every minute of your great video but you left me with one important question - WHY didn´t you mention the 2 Kawa Versys versions in your ADV-Listing? W H Y ? It´s SUCH an awesome adv bike especially the inline 4, 1000cc Versys (wich i happen to ride - as you know) :o)
Basically because I see it as more of a touring bike than a true adventure bike and didn't want to confuse the basic definitions with more hybrid-y examples.
Versys is an amazing bike, no doubt.
Great stuff. I jumped a screaming deal on an XR650L, which I since discovered is a pretty big bike, but with a dirt heritage. I wanted the dirt heritage, but when I see so many of the smaller dual sports, I think I may have been better off shopping for a shorter and lighter bike. I'd love to see you do a piece on the trade-offs on size. Why would anyone want a 650, when smaller bikes are plenty to get from trail head to trail head on the highway?
People like to carry more gear when they go camping and extra CCs help with that. Some people with only one bike like to take their dual sports on longer highway rides.
Total y agree. I have a GS1250 and a CRF250L. As you say both are complementary. Let me add that with adventure bikes you could make trips with a second person. One common characteristic that both have in comparison with pure road bikes is that you move your body and you move the bike in a tottaly different way.
Good point. 2up on a dual sport is less than comfortable. Way better on an ADV bike.
Thanks Ben.
I've had a KLR, XR650L, WR450, Tiger 800 and 1200 and a Himalayan. I finally found a 2017 KTM 690 Enduro R with only 1000 miles last November. It's the closest thing to a unicorn with a set of TKC's on it. It goes down the freeway easily and can run single track and everything in between. It's not a long distance tourer but I've done plenty of that and am over it. T120 Bonnie is the other bike in my stable.
Sounds like quite a bike. I'd really like to ride one someday.
Got both: BMW R1150SG ADV & Yamaha TW-200.
is it possible change 70/30 tires in dual spots for on road comfort ?
When I was young we called dual purpose motorcycles, ( Trailsters , Or Street Scramblers ) ......!
As far as how they (MSF) classify the 3 basic type's of bikes, you have: off-highway(dirt), dual-sport and street. Within those 3 types are different styles: enduro, trail, super motoX, trial, adventure, cruiser, standard, touring, sport. Then you have hybrids and variations within those styles: chopper, power cruiser, etc.
Would you consider the 250L rally to lean more toward DS or ADV?
Thank you sir
Wow that 10th grade Biology analogy was really helpful!
What is your choice of motorcycle for adventure in the 250 cc class?
Could the new CB 500x with some 50/50 tyres, barkbusters and a skid plate do pretty much what either of these bikes can do?
Do you find it hard switching from one to another? ie muscle memory, jack of both master of neither type of effect?
My riding mix is more like 50/50 or 20/80 dirt. I would like to have better dirt riding performance relative to street performance, so I would like to get a higher dirt rating at the expense of street. What tiers do you recommend for street longevity and strong dirt performance?
I don't have a ton of experience with tires yet but I'm impressed with my D606 and MT21 so far.
Nice !
i see that bashan brozz hiding back there, talk about a budget beast!!
Nailed it!!
Im torn, some two lane, seeking backroads to explore
65 years old beginner, retiring. Want to ride some easy trails, dirt roads o see nature, and lots backroads. No commute, little freeway as possible. Any thoughts for a starter adventure bike? ( had a bike in my 20s)
Hello, hope you found a bike but if not you will love the crf250f as a beginner ds make sure you can make it legal where you live, all you need is blinkers and a horn. Best and cheapest way to go to start out.
following your analogy, i rather think the heavy adventures bikes came from a cruiser father rather than a street bike xD
Nah, that's a Himalayan
Are those Machine Art Moto handguards on your Africa Twin?
You have a good eye. They are. It's a pretty awesome design.
Full AT mods video should be out this week.
@@DorkintheRoad I have wanted to get a set for the 1250 but they have been out of stock. Their site says they are coming out with version 2, so I will need to wait on mine.
Hi dude....for a middle aged guy who has not riden a bike before is it better to start with a small bike ..200cc or would a bigger one be ok?...thinking about getting a honda nc 750
Depends on what you want to do. If you are going to ride primarily street and highway, you can probably start on a bigger bike so long as you're comfortable on it. The NC750X is probably beginner-friendly enough. If you're wanting to get off road, though, I think starting on a smaller dual sport is the way to go.
The CB500X is a great option, too. My brother has one and it's a really great bike.
So is their and “in-between” of these bikes that require minimal mods to operated?? Suggestions?
X300 Kawasaki- lighter, can do 80 all day. Be careful when passing after 60 as you may find yourself praying for more power! Been there, done that !
The best of both worlds. I ride a CB500X but I'm going to get both an ADV and DS.
CRF1100 Africa Twin AS/Husqvarna 501
If I had to have one, I'd have to go ADV because we don't have much dirt here on the east coast especially in the urban areas.
Sounds like a great bike combo!
Lol. As a Harley owner, a 500lbs motorcycle is super light. All perspective. Why I’m getting the 790 R
I’ve never met a motorcycle I didn’t like. At 53 years old, I’m still a newbie, as my first motorbike was when I was 13 years old, and only 3 more in the next 40 years.
I am impressed with your liquor stores.
hahaha great outtakes! :D
Thank you! You keep enjoying 'em, and I'll keep including 'em ;)
The question that needs to be addressed is which bike will be easier for a noob to get started on managing riding on dirt. In my view that would be a lighter weight, low seat height to allow for flat footing ability when things get rough and not enough power to let the bike take over in the rough. The answer is not always a dual sport, mainly due to seat height ( KLR 650 and DRZ400 are lofty ) , but their general milder power and sturdiness is more forgiving. We have all seen videos of dirt virgins on their GS1200s crashing their brains out on GS Rally events. Perhaps it is better to buy a cheaper, underpowered, low seat height bike to learn on ( e.g. RE Himalayan, DR650), sell it off , then buy the ADV bike you lust after.
Thank you for very informative video, but please SLOW DOWN!! I have hardly seen a video with SO FAST talking author.
Doctor of Motorcycling 😄 Dork M.D. (Motorcycling Doctor)
Not sure you'll get notified of the comment but I have a question. In this video you assert the KLR is a big dual sport but not truly an ADV bike. Others say it is the literal 50/50 in other comments. My question is how do you feel about the KLR placement in this video? Do you still feel it's just a big dual sport? Thanks for making great content. =]
It's a big dual sport that shares a lot of traits with adventure bikes, in my opinion. I think you could safely call it either and not be wrong, but as a big thumper it'll always be a dual sport to me.
So will the bike have blue eyes or brown eyes?
I have and love the CRF250L, but want to add a NC750X to the fleet. Hope wifey approves....ha
Dr. DITR, if I get my 96 vulcan a brozz girlfriend, will they make me a klr?
Well, the Brozz is only 50% dirtbike, so you'd end up with something like 75% street bike, 25% dirt bike....so you'd probably end up with like a baby V-Strom.
@@DorkintheRoad That would work for me.
Hi buddy I want to buy my first adventure bike,
I looking to be good for commuting us well
With good fuel and not very heavy
And also reliable
Când you advise me with one please
Many thanks
Versus X300
@@jimpiquette1375 thank you mate
so what is a suzuki van van 200?
Looks like a scrambler to me
Yeah I would also pick the Honda............👍
Seems the logical choice ;)
You missed the 300cc adventure bikes like versys 300, bmw 310 gs, ktm duke adventure and so on. They are not as heavy, not as expensive and so on, completely changes the narrative of the video
Your Africa Twin and CRF250L got together one night and before you know you had a Brozz . Are you sure who father is ?
Yeah it definitely looks more Chinese than Japanese to me...
@@DorkintheRoad
Haha .
Great video! The out takes made me laugh
Thanks for watching. Happy to hear you enjoyed.
Can you get dual sport bikes that are automatic? (And yes im new here)
I don't know of any automatic dual sports but there are some automatic adventure bikes like the Africa Twin DCT.
@@DorkintheRoad Yeah i did see that one to. Thanks!
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I would love a real enduro with all accessories to be street legal, like a KTM 250 2 stroke.
Ah crap, came here hoping you'd help me decide... now I just want two bikes 😆
Honestly one of each is the best move in my opinion.
@@DorkintheRoad yes I'm thinking I'm going to start on the adventure side and if I crave better offroad I'll get a small displacement simple dual sport.
I think the main difference is the purpose of those bikes. Dual sport is for local light enduro trips while adventure bike is for long distance travelling. All other differences (gas tank, weight, ground clearance, comfort ability, tyres, presence or absence of additional features, etc.) are coming from this main difference.
I think the KLR is the middle child
It's definitely right in the middle.
KTM 640 is same. With more braap and damn capable offroad.
The long range, larger enduros evolved into dualsport genre. This is where the sweet spot is. Unfortunately they were ahead of their time.
Yep!
Pore klr ... Great at nothing but yet good at everything ish lol
It's a fantastic all around machine, for sure.
Your not wrong in your definition. However most riders are off by one class of definition. In other words most that consider them selves a adventure rider are really street riders , than most DS riders are really mostly riders adventure type ridding . To me a 300 pound bike is just a mini slow adv bike a 220 pound trail bike with a license plate is a True ds.
klr 650
After riding street bikes and cruisers, the CRF250L is a total enlightenment for me. Ability to go any lane you like is game changer.
But there is one thing on road that made me quickly understand why are adv bikes and suv/,4x4 cars popular - they are a lot better on most roads than low suspension cars/bikes. The comfort of softer tires and offroad suspension is mindblowing.
Sorry I have to rewatch... I had the mute button on...lol
I get that a lot. ;)