The 9 Best Beginner Adventure Motorcycles: Best Entry-Level ADV Bikes for New Riders (2023 Edition)
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- Опубліковано 8 чер 2024
- Finding the best beginner adventure motorcycle for you can be a difficult task. There are a ton of entry-level ADV bikes to choose from and they have widely varying engine sizes, capabilities, and features. In my opinion, the most important factor when choosing the best beginner ADV bike is confidence. A new ADV rider needs to feel like they are going to be able to handle both the bike and the terrain, and that's why I recommend starting with a small or medium sized adventure motorcycle or even an adventure-style dual sport motorcycle.
I've compiled a list of my 9 favorite entry-level ADV bikes for beginners. Now, entry-level ADV bike doesn't mean crappy or not fun to ride. Skilled riders can still enjoy all of the awesome adventure motorcycles on this list, but these 9 best beginner adventure bikes are the most confidence-inspiring and easy to find choices out there, so these are the beginner ADV bikes I recommend.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro to Best Beginner ADV Bikes
01:08 Consider a Dual Sport Instead
01:20 Why These Are Good Beginner Adventure Bikes
02:32 Suzuki V-Strom 650
03:47 Kawasaki Versys-X 300
05:43 Honda CB500X
08:01 Dual Sport Bikes That Are Also Adventure Bikes
08:26 Kawasaki KLR 650
10:44 Suzuki DR650
12:53 Honda CRF250L Rally/Honda CRF300L Rally
15:00 Royal Enfield Himalayan
16:40 Honorable Mention: KTM 390 Adventure
17:15 Honda Africa Twin
Beginner ADV Bike videos mentioned in this video:
V-Strom 650 Test Ride: • V-Strom 650 Review: Te...
Versys-X 300 Test Ride: • Kawasaki Versys-X 300 ...
Honda CB500X Off Road Test Ride: • Rain and Snow, Gravel ...
Kawasaki KLR 650 Playlist: • 2022 Kawasaki KLR 650 ...
Honda CRF250L Playlist: • 5 Things To Know Befor...
Royal Enfield Himalayan Test Ride: • Royal Enfield Himalaya...
KTM 390 Adventure Test Ride: • Is This The Best Begin...
Honda Africa Twin Playlist: • Honda Africa Twin Free...
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You do great camping reviews of things you have used, but evaluating/recommending Adventure Motorcycles (In My Humble Opinion) requires a LOT more experience and off road skill than you have.
What about the Suzuki V-Strom 250?
ALL new riders should do the X300 for introduction to the off road portion of ADV riding. Its heavy enough to let you know where your headed with bigger bikes but light enough to have fun and not worry about being able to get it up after dropping it. Its price means you can easily sell it when ready to move up.
@@clemoniii For experts, sure. For new/intermediate riders, I'd argue I have exactly the right amount of experience. Experts, particularly those who have been riding since they were kids, have no memory of what it's like to be new at it.
Off course you do. My apologies for putting my initial comment on public forum. That was in poor form.
I think the "reliability concerns" for Royal Enfield are only historical. FortNine did a study of oil at break-in change a year or two ago and found that the engines were cleaner out of the factory than ANY other maker including BMW and Japanese bikes. I have not heard of actual reliability issues from their modern bikes. I actually hear more people having trouble with KTM than RE.
There are some issues but they are mostly easy to fix. Bad relays for example - just swap them out with a good brand if they cause you a problem. The biggest issue I had with mine is the stock tyres that dont do well off road (and the slightly odd rear tyre size that limits available options).
I was just researching them pre purchase and it's a long list of things that people report going wrong with them. Seems like the bikes built on a Monday have completely different issues than the bikes built on a Friday.
@@domenik8339 Consider the fact that Royal Enfield manufacture a staggering quantity of bikes. The number of faults percentage wise and general reliability is probably no different to many far more expensive brands. Fixing them is definitely cheaper too.
If any brand will be unreliable in India.. they'll be broke within 6 months but as you know RE is serving more than 30 years it means that they're reliable..
But there engine is not as refined as Japanese one
I think the infamous reputation of the Hymalyan came from the foot peg falling off in the Advert and the front end cracking and falling apart. From what I can gather, those happened before it came to the European market and owners seem to love the bike.
I ride a Himalayan, some off roading, camping, and BDR, but I also daily it for my work commute. I can say it's just as reliable, and easy to work on, as the KLR. Only changes I have made and recommend are: new mirrors, bar guards (Bark busters), soft bags, and a lower pipe (to keep the pipe off the bags, not necessary otherwise). It is an absolute tractor, and can be had new for $5-6.5k.
I can't find a himalayan near me 😔 I've wanted to get for my first bike but no luck so far
@@MugiwaraLionGrand Rapids, Michigan has a nice Enfield Dealership at the BMW Dealership. Good selection of inventory and service.
Do not waste your money with Royal Enfield, unless you are living in India
@@estebanperez1971Agreed, Any 5K low mileage used XR650L or Suzuki DR650 is going to cost its owner much less over time than any brand new Enfield will. Headaches included .
The weight of a Yamaha T7 with 1/3 of the power...In Europe and South America a Voge 300 Rally will do a better job for 900 € (1000 bucks) less. 40 kg less, 4.5 HP more, 6 speeds, better suspensions, better brakes. Same top speed as the Himalayan, but accelerates faster, with capabilities off road. The Voge has the engine of Kawasaki 300 KLX.
Had the 500X & the DR650. Either one could run forever. The Honda is a no-drama machine
The 500x engine is probably the best built engine on the market today when it comes to maintenance (it needs none aside from the standard stuff) and reliability.
62 years and 41 motorcycles later I have to say the BMW G310GS is a pretty excellent all ‘rounder. Spoon on some Bridgestone AX 41’s and stiffen up the suspension a bit and it is a highly capable ADV bike. I’ve got over 10K miles on my 2021 and so far I’m a pretty happy camper 😊
I haven't ridden one yet but I am curious why you would pick this over basically any other small dual sport? It does not seem to be any faster than most 250-400cc Bikes, is definitely a lot less offroad capable than for example a DRZ or CRF and it's quite pricy. It's not even built in Germany but in India.
I don't want to hate on your bike but I'd be curious on where you see the strong points of this machine?
@@riksavering7049 Thank you for the answer! I was just curious because a friend of mine is considering one for his first ever. These are very valid points, some of them I never considered. Partly because they don’t apply to me. Seat high is no issue being almost 6,4 and ergos might not be too great for me on this bike either - but for a smaller person that’s a big deal. I‘ll check your buddies channel out, thanks a lot! :)
One more question, would you say it’s faster than a DRZ or similar on the street? Not referring to cornering or breaking (I‘m sure the BMW will win that easily) but just in terms of acceleration and top speed? After all the DRZ is much lighter and has some more cc‘s and hp but is a way older design
@@michaelnutzel2226 The G310GS won’t win any races but possesses very tractable power and really comes alive around 5000 to 5500 RPM. It’s surprisingly devoid of vibration for a 34 horsepower single. 65 mph all day long at between 6000 and 6500 RPM at around 70 MPG. I’ve never ridden a DR so I can’t give you any opinion on that. To me it’s a great bike for my love of motorcycling at 62 years of age. I don’t ride as fast as I used to and that’s probably a good idea 😂
TOTALLY agree. Better warranty, gas mileage and highway comfort than the Versys. I have had them both. I love my '21!!!!
How’s the service costs compare to other bikes you’ve owned?
I bought a 2017 Versys 300X 2 years ago for $4K. I'm 76, so it's my size. Grew up in the 70s on dirt bikes.
IMO, the beauty of the DR650 is it's simplicity and super easy maintenance. No coolant, screw adjust valves clearance, etc.
Also, being unchanged since 1996 makes for a huge aftermarket and a well documented list of it's known problems.
Having owned 17-18 bikes ive never owned one but allways thought it was the way to go. Never had one pop up for sale at a decent price where i live though. That said my little versys has some nice features i might miss.
KTM 390 is a great choice and should have been near the top. Offers a great size and weight for a new rider or someone that wants a lighter ADV. Look how much punishment and miles ADV MATT has put on his and not major issues. Mine, with cast wheels has seen some pretty rough roads and single track without issue, and now they have the Spoked wheels model from the factory this year. That alone should silence most of its critics. Thanks for the video, but just because it’s a Japanese brand doesn’t make or break reliability. Everyone makes winners and losers.
The KTM 390 price in France is 7700 euros. That's far too expensive you can get better for this money. The alloy wheels are a NO-NO offroad.
The most important part of the KLR 650 is the community around that bike.
... And the lack of community. The KLR650 is not sold in Europe, due to emissions regulations.
The same goes for the Suzuki DR650; popular in Australia, Canada, South Africa and the USA, but not available in Europe.
Yeah, misery loves company.
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I absolutely love my 2nd gen KLR!
Everytime I start looking at replacing my '08 KLR, I go for a ride and remember why I bought this bike and all of the smiles it brings me. Of course, I've added a lowered custom (Mr. Ed's Moto) saddle, and tons of other farkles, but I paid cash and it just keeps going. Would love a 6th gear, fuel injection, and a twin cylinder, but maybe down the road.
Hey Dork! Love your videos. Just bought a Himalayan and received a sizeable year-end discount. Always good discounts at year's end. Loving the bike so far! Easy to work on and huge variety of aftermarket parts, many direct from India and at very fair prices. I'd love to own every bike on your list! Much respect from me to you for jumping into motorcycling in such a passionate and informative way! I have a little carbureted 2023 Honda XR150l on order for my daughter. I will lower it for her, and it will be her first bike. Hoping she gets the cycling bug as bad as I have it! It's my "therapy," and your advice and shared experiences have helped my adventures in many wonderful ways! God bless and thank you!
I love my KLR. It’s my first motorcycle. It’s a great choice for a bigger guy like me learning to ride
I’ve owned my 14 VStrom 650 for 6 years and have put nearly 70,000 miles on it. I have the options of numerous other bikes ranging from tourers, sport tourers, cruisers and modern classics. The VStrom is my go to, favorite of everything in the garage. Absolutely love it. Dead reliable.
I'm 74 been riding all kinds for 55 years. I have noticed time and again especially in Adv riding that many folks are not slipping there clutch and increasing their rpms when picking their way throuhh..up an obstacle strew trail. Saw a close up of itchy boots hands during her crash. This is a technic I had to teach my family extended of 12 people and friends. Thx
Just bought my vstrom 650 2010 as a second bike at the end of last summer ! Cannot wait to go camping, gravel roads and go on longer rides than on my naked !
Thanks for the videos man, love em
Hey Dork, Love your videos and also your dedication to your channel. All the best to you in the New Year !
Thanks Ben for a great rundown! I happen to own the KLR650 Gen 3 Adventure and you actually helped me make up my mind on getting it. I have had it for a full year now and love it. I live in South Florida so finding trails is tough but I do get to ride on dome dirt/sandy roads. The OEM tires wore out on me at around 2800 miles which was disappointing. I now have the Motoz Tractionator GPS and love how the feel on road and dirt roads. I pick these up from 3D Cycle Parts and had great customer service. Now my wife wants a motorcycle LOL Thanks again for your great content!
Excellent recommendations. I have a DR650 languishing in my shed. It needs a new wiring harness and I keep finding reasons not to make and fit one. I think my New Year's resolution is going to have to be to get the bike running and hit the green lanes. (English equivalent of trails.)
I belong to the DR650 cult. It is a great choice. I am an old school guy. Thanks for this video.
I like the broader view you have about what an "adventure bike" is. I think that the offroad capabilities of most bikes that people exclusively consider adventure bikes are beyond the capabilities of most riders. Seems like a solid list.
Now this is the kind of video that grabs me. Straight forward and broad spectrum.
Your opinion matters Man.
Thank you
Amazing straight to the point no bs, you're an awesome dude and you got yourself a new sub. thanks a lot!
Great great GREAT video, man. Congratulations and thank you for this content! Greetings from Venezuela!
Thanks, Ben! I love this channel.
much appreciated!
nice videooo... always good to see a yearly refresher !
Stromin on the old trumbone! Excellent bike the 650. It is fun for all levels.
I was curious if the Himalayan would make it on your list. I love mine so far and am new to the adventure riding lifestyle. I don’t ever see me doing much difficult riding. Farm roads, fire roads, etc., but it’s been a blast for me so far. Hoping it proves to be reliable. I did get it new so I’m good for at least the next 3 years lol. Thanks for the great content! 😎
Great choice. I bought mine by accident when I couldnt get a Honda 300. Im glad I did. The community is great, the bike will do far more than you think and it is cheap enough to not worry about dropping it.
The Royal Enfield has been in continuous production since dinosaurs walked the earth and there are Bullets around from 50 years ago that have run all the way round their odometer clocks so reliability really isn't an issue.
Great video Ben! I very much agree with you about the V-strom. I had a 2003 DL1000 for about 150,000 miles. While it was dead reliable I would hesitate to throw it under a beginner... That and it's off-road ability was more that of a long-legged tourer than a true dual-purpose motorcycle.
Agree
My buddy has the v strom, took it offroad once and hasn't since. Way too heavy the v strom is an ADV bike in style only.
@@domenik8339 naah, its an adventure bike allright. Just not the most off-road capable one.
I bought the klr in May 22 and have no regrets! It’s been a great first bike and have many years of exploring on it to look forward to.
Great video as usual. Love off road and adventure bikes. Had a bmw 650, klr 650 several older Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha dual sports including the xt500. Right now I’m riding a Versys x300 and loving it. Don’t be fooled by the small motor, it just needs to rev. I went one tooth up in the front and it’s perfect. Has all the add on accessories but still on the factory seat. I will say it’s hard as a brick so I’ll be looking for options. Other than that it’s great bike to consider unless your really tall. Overall it’s a bike that is close to the size and weight of a 250 but way more road capable.
Love your posts. Thanks
Another great video Dork. I love that you started with the 650 Vstrom. My favorite of all bikes I've owned.
Thanks for another very informative video!
Great choices! I’ve ridden most and owned two. Started on a KLR, recently switched to the Wee-Strom because I’ve always been more of a road rider, but I still want to ride easy to moderate dirt. You can’t go wrong with any of these choices, though.
I think you’re in the right place. I started on a KLR, sold it for a DL, sold that for a house, now I’m back on my KLR missing the smoothness and performance of my DL. I love KLR’s for the value, but the Suzuki is much more refined on road. Ride safe friend.
Thanks for the friendly & informative vids
Great video, Thanks.
Awesome review of bikes dude. Solid assessment 🤘🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
I enjoy my XT250, it’s a down size for me after decades of riding it suits all my needs. I was looking forward to watching videos of the one you bought did it turnout to be to much of a loss to fix up?
Excellent video Ben! I would totally agree with you about all of these bikes any one of them will get you there and do it in style. As for reliability the Japanese bikes are top of the heap but Royal Enfield and KTM are not that far behind in that department and both have lots of people in their community's to help a beginner to solve or avoid any problems that might arise and I am saying this as a died in wool Honda guy.
First time here. The Excitebike intro got me! 😂 Great video, and thanks!
Just brought my KTM 390 home. Looking forward to getting out once the ground thaws and temps go up here in Cetnral Oregon.
Congrats….. new owner (400 miles). Super fun/capable bike…….ready for spring
I can't believe that you haven't gotten more hits on this video and more likes very well prepared and a lot of meaningful content, Thank you.
I have a 2022 CB500X and its fantastic bike. This is my 3rd year riding and I have made mistakes on the 500X that may have been much more impactful on a bike with more power. Its not a highway star by any means but Its really fun for me right now. I do plan on getting more power next year for extended journeys but I have gained so much skill and confidence on the 500X.
Your intro and outro still cracks me up.
Wow!! Some great info!👍
My last bike was a street bike in the 1990's , I wanted to get back on two wheels before I got too old, but didn't want to be focused on payment, so I started looking for a dual sport. I came across a deal on a 2021 crf300 Rally that was used buy a lady for only 376 kilometers and didn't like it (too tall for her) and bought it. I love it , put 4000 more kilometers on it this past season. I love traveling back roads , some easy trails ,and just enough pavement to get to the next dirt road. I really appreciate the ABS brakes since I put more aggressive knobbies on it, and that makes it less payment friendly. I have no plans to upgrade to a different bike , because I don't want a heavier bike .I love the bike, it's my perfect bike.
Love your channel, fun, funny and informative , thanks.
Put thousands and thousands of miles on my KTM 390 adv. Never had a single issue. It has more features than just about any bike on your list and cost less lol.
Whats the price u paid brand new? And do u think that bike could be shipped to the Caribbean?
Great list dork! I’ve owned several of these bikes. If I were riding around the world I would buy a DR650, they are the cockroach of the motorcycle world - you can’t kill them!
I agree! I bought a dr650 this February and love it. I'm settling it up to ride the northeast bdr In September.
I like my DR 650 because it doesn’t have all the fancy things on it to stop working and leave you stranded! All the bikes on this list are great.
KLR 650 for me, I did many km's on it and loved it. I like the vstrom as well but my baby will always be my Yamaha TDR 250, good at everything that you do with it.
I bought a 2022 Versys X-300 about a month or so ago and I love it. Once you get used to how to manage the engine and shifting, it’s hard to find many flaws for a starter bike. I am 5’6” though so it fits my body perfectly. There are also lots of aftermarket items out there too if you want to spruce it up for more technical terrain. ADV Pulse did a build in 2019 you can find online and use as a blueprint. Great bike so far.
I got a cb 500 x, but I would have gone for the versys if it was available. I was not willing to wait 6-10 months, at best. Talking with the main importer in Greece, he said that the versys was the most ordered bike he imported, but sadly the supply is not there. 6-10 months if I was lucky enough IF he was to get enough bikes to give to all the people on the waiting list.
I'm glad I went for the CB though, got a used one with 4k km and I take it EVERYWHERE.
We have a constant disagreement with a friend that got a Versys ( 1 +1/2 years in the waiting list ), been on a couple of bug trips in the Balkans and currently planning a whole Balkan tour ( great views and amazing food in small village taverns 🤣).
Great choice on the versys, have fun and stay safe!
@@kiritsakis1 thanks. You got a great bike as well and it sounds you are enjoying it. Ride safe and have fun!
@@urbanadventurer5 really really am, cheers
How fast is that bike? Can you do freeway speed without feeling like you are pushing the engine? I got a cb500x and that’s my only complaint is that it’s not quite as good on the highway as I hoped,
@@notanymore9471 it definitely does 75-80 fairly easily. I am still in the break in period, so I haven’t pushed it too hard though. That being said, this bike is built around the old Ninja 300 Engine, so it loves to revved. You kind of have to embrace that as part of how this bike needs to be ridden, it can rev to the moon and doesn’t care. Once you embrace that you need to ride it like a sport bike, it’s a lot of fun though. I think it has about 40hp. My guess is it could get exhausting after hours on the freeway without a break. For day in and day out an hour or so of riding, I really like it and I live at altitude in Colorado.
Great Vid!
great vid, thanks
I did really enjoy all the KLR footage in this video, but I might be biased... That's a good lookin' machine!
Ben, really enjoy your channel. Probably one of the best "reality-oriented" ADV channels. I bought a 2013 BMW G650GS new. 10 riding seasons later, after all kinds of trips from a 6 mile work commute to a 3000 mile trip to Hyder, AK (Stewart, BC), I highly recommend this bike for new riders. Low seat height, 65mpg, tons of accessories available from Touratech & Altrider and many others. Good on the road, good on PNW dirt roads, not really a BDR bike. I ride with all the camping gear loaded in 35L panniers and a dry bag and feel like I'm riding in style. Have watched the market come back towards mid-sized bikes. They just make sense.
Love my 13 G650GS! Solid bike. Pretty lightweight and has the gas tank under the seat, so it handles amazingly. I picked mine over a KLR and I have no regrets
What about cost of maintenance and parts? They say bmw parts is expensive etc
@@basedpatriotLT @user-ni6jc4xf2u honestly, the parts aren't quite as cheap as bikes like the KLR that they've made millions of. That being said, they really aren't all that expensive. Obviously much cheaper if you source them yourself too and not go to the dealer too. All in all, I'd say it's worth the extra cost of what you get vs a KLR. It's a lighter bike (423lb wet), has a low center of gravity (fuel tank under seat), has fuel injection, has ABS, has more power than a KLR, has heated grips stock and has been proven to be very reliable. It's got a lot going for it. I'm by no means a beginner, but I do love this bike. I think the only downside for me is that the valves have a somewhat short adjustment interval.
I have just recently bought a 2015 G650GS with only 4000km on the clock as my first ever bike (Im a 50 mumble year old lady). Im so pleased to see comments like yours...it gives me confidence to know I havent made a giant mistake!
@@wendywhittaker193 4000km is nothing. I just hit 20,000 miles on mine and it still runs great. Just keep up with valve checks and it should last a long time. The valve check interval is somewhat short on this bike at 6,000 miles or 10,000km
Hi Think you have the right perspectives on Adv.biking - enjoy nature while praticing MC interest and building friendship.. 👍👍
Just bought a 2023 versus 300. Love it so far. I’m 59 and just wanted something light.
Great content. I have subscribed to your channel.
Good stuff Dork. For me though, I vote for KTM's :) I have a 250xc dirt and 390 Adventure and both have been reliable as a rock. I also had an AT but being a 5'6" female, it wasn't much fun off road but awesome on road! Keep up the great content man!
Having done a test ride on a cb 500x, and a Versys 300x, as well as owned a 2022KLR, and now a Himalayan, I think the cb 500x takes it for all around best. The 300x is nice and was fun to ride but it was weird to rev it out so much. I personally didn't like the KLR, for me it was a bad fit with the suspension. Though I have a short inseam and I am pretty light. I would recommend it if you are taller or heavier. I have really enjoyed my Himalayan but it definitely has some quirks. If you want to get involved with bike service it's awesome because it's easy to work on. The Himalayan sounds great too if you like a vintage single cylinder sound. To be honest though I also regret not getting a cb500x as my first motorcycle.
It's hard to beat the 500x. Every time I ride my brother's I like it even more.
@@DorkintheRoad the 500x was on my list, but i needed something in the 400lbs or less range so I can carry it with me RV camping. (I pull a 5th wheel, and the bike goes on FRONT of my truck on a hitch carrier). I get a lot of looks pulling in ... but have no trouble with the Versys-x 300 on the front. (It's very close to 400# with all the extras and a full tank).
@@DorkintheRoad have you seen the new CL500? It has a lower seat height and better ground clearance as well as a few lbs lighter than the CB. Gotta wait a while for a decent priced used one tho 😅 supposed to be out soon in US
@@DorkintheRoad I currently have a 2021 Africa Twin. It is just too heavy and really hard to move around and to turn around if I come to a dead end logging road. AND the seat is not very comfortable. I am probably going to trade it for a CB500x. How comfortable is the seat on the 500x ? I had a Vstrom 650 back in 2008 and still think it was the most comfortable seat of any bike I have owned. In your experience, is the CB500x as comfortable as the Vstrom? Thanks!
With all my research over the last two years, I have come to the same conclusion. I'm so glad there are folks like you who have posted how they wish they had picked up the CB500X as their first, because you are saving me from the same journey! I'll be getting one in the next month or two if I can swing it, and I have to thank you for sharing your experience!
I've got 30k miles on my 2020 650 "Wee-Strom" - great multi purpose bike and stupid easy to maintain. Awesome & fun on paved twisties. Comfortable to ride all day. Ok off road. Low ground clearance & still over 500lbs to pick up if you drop it. Looking at getting a 2nd smaller bike for off road.
Just picked up a v-strom DL-1000 haha, first bike ive owned and i love it! But something smaller might have been a smarter choice but it really is fun
I started on a KTM 1190, and I've still got it. Spends almost all of its life on dirt. I love it. It's given me no bother. If I want to go from A to B across the Nordic region in an almost straight line with a comfy arse, I use the 1190. If I want to go in a dead straight line, I use my 500exc. I pack about the same on both.
3:27 I ride a 2012 VStrom 650, absolutely love this bike!!!!
Agree with most of this list minus V-strom, Africa Twin.. both heavy for new riders especially offroad. Dual sports are the ticket here, I'd consider adding the 690/701 platform to list.. weight more forgiving offroad than even 390/Versys 300x while having plenty of power.
I agree and I have a vstrom 650. I use mine for touring. It can get dirty but not gracefully.
Good list. I would agree that while they’re good for beginners more seasoned riders can enjoy them as well. I’m currently thinking about a v-strom for the highway capabilities at a decent price.
Get the 650. You will not regret it. The only regret Vstrom owners have is if they get rid of it.
Have owned lots of off road/adventure bikes from a KTM 350 EXC to BMW R1200GS. I've never owned one, but the DR650 seems to be the best "platform" of a bike to start with. It's a solid machine that can easily be modded to become just about any kind of bike you want. If you love to mod stuff, the DR650 has endless configurations.
Great Vid. I have always liked the KRl 650 but was worried about me pushing 300 lbs being ok to ride this. Do you think this is a good first adv bike for me?
I had this decision to make last fall and I went for a 2010 XTZ 660 Z Tenere. I think its damn good for beginning. Not even slightly scary and very capable. It is tall, but Im 6"3 so good for me.
My has all the bells abd whistles on it allready so its great. Also Akra pipes gives it some necessary pops n bangs 😃
Pretty good choices. I would say look for a CRF 250 L for one reason, that in the 300 of both bikes that you’re going to outgrow and you can just get a 250 for a whole lot cheaper and there are way more of them out there available and for a bike that you’re going to have for a year or two and then probably upgrade could save a couple thousand bucks. It’s a smaller gas tank like you mentioned but to get into it and get started and learning to ride, it might be worth saving a couple grand.
A couple other options if you don’t mind an older bike, 88 and 89 they had the Honda NX 650, it’s basically an XR 650 L but it’s got a much more straight a bowl gear range it sits lower and has more of a street oriented suspension and of course it’s that Honda motor so you can get parts anywhere and it’s very comfortable touring a type of bike that’s not too bad off-road either and then of course if you can find one the old Honda transalp. It’s a can a little more street oriented but can still do off-road, probably in the same category as the V Strom, but they had a very smooth great engine and they’re a little dated but something like that would be a great option as well. In other countries or if you can get them imported they had all kinds of sizes as well at 400s even. The v-twin engines in them was really really smooth and on the long ride that’s pretty nice compared to a lot of the singles. Now those probably aren’t as practical but they’re very cool options and that’s one of the things about the old Hondas is sometimes you can find them for a pretty good price but you can always sell them if they’re in decent shape and running and you can tell them pretty quick. If you can find a good old bike like a KLR or an old Honda XL or one of those bullet proof models you can often drive it for two or three years and sell it for about what you paid for it. If you’re mechanical you can find a cheap one that’s been a little neglected and probably make money on it with a good bit of work. That’s what was nice about carburetors so a lot of people at those bikes it for a couple years and then they don’t run well or start and they sell them cheap.
I had an Africa Twin I picked up used and I didn't care much for it. Didn't seem too heavy until you stopped and tried to move the bike around slowly. I would love to try the Versys 300. It has the hardest seat in the industry, but it also has the lightest clutch pull of any bike I've ever seen. I love this video. Love your honesty and candor. I find myself watching your videos more and more, so I'm hitting that subscribe button. Plus you have that mute button.
The seat is hard but not uncomfortable. Have a 17 model
I can believe that. I once replaced a seat on a bike that felt soft and the one I put on was really firm. I thought I messed up until I rode it and it was loads better.
I've read the new CB500X has a really light clutch pull as well. As in one finger operation. If it's in budget, definitely take a look at it.
Great information. Just found your channel. What are your thoughts on the Honda NC-750X? Mostly on- road, highway riding
Good video! Any thoughts on the BMW G310 GS?
A good set of tires and a seat concepts seat makes a huge difference on the VersysX-300.
I rocked an ‘09 Kawasaki Versys 650 that was dressed out as an adventure touring bike. Better tires, engine guards, skid plate & suspension upgrade. She was a bit heavy for single track and rough trails. But she did great on the highway and was a good gravel road rider.
I think the himalayan is also build in the USA for that market. Apart from the battery and relays it's reliable. Bosh relays and a good battery are inexpensive and so it's still a cheap bike. Well worth a look . Lots of aftermarket upgrade luggage etc available.
At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I think my V-Strom 650 is awesome! I bought it new less than 10 years ago and it now has over 100,000 miles on it. I’ve ridden it through 36 states so far and it has been fantastically reliable. I actually wouldn’t call it a beginner bike though. I think you should start with something lighter and less powerful. It would not be a good first bike.
KTM owner here. I’d say KTMs are pretty reliable. Never had any issues except for regular wear and tear, no surprises at all.
Thank you for showcasing the Kawasaki Versys X300. My channel is dedicated to the Versys X300 and provide many videos on installing upgrades and mods. I provide all the details on all the parts, sources, costs, etc. Enjoy the ride.
As a shorter and frugal street motorcyclist since 1975 the bikes I personally own for dual purpose/adventure along with price paid are: TW200 $1,600, XT225 $2,000, and DR650 $1,850. All three in excellent condition and low miles with relatively low seat heights. I did buy a project BMW f650 GS Dakar for $2,500 that has an electrical no start problem. And I wish I had not passed up on a KLR 250 for $2,000. I sold my venerable and ubiquitous KLR 650 for having two tall of a seat and being two top heavy. The next long-legged owner was stoked to find it and take it off my hands!
Very good list of beginner ADV bikes but the notable omission was the BMW G310GS. It's comfortable with a low seat height, has much better road manners than the dual sport thumpers I've owned, and it does surprisingly well in the type of mild off road that a beginner ADV rider will experience. The alloy wheels are plenty strong enough for this type of riding. It's not made to be a hard off road dual sport. Tubeless tires make for very easy flat repairs compared to the tubes on the spoked wheels on most of the recommended bikes. 34 HP is barely enough for highway use. I have cruised at 75 MPH for an hour no problem, and it'll reach 82 on flat terrain fully wound out, but I bought the bike for back roads and mild off road and it's great at that. BMW claims 71 MPG but I get 65 MPG riding it like a hoon. I do wish it had a 5 gallon tank instead of a 3 gallon tank, but that's my only real con.
The G310GS has a large rear rack that is great for carrying camping equipment. I put everything in a single roll top waterproof 66 liter duffel bag on the pilion and the large rear rack so I don't have panniers catching on trees or causing drag when riding on the road. It handles very well.
There are two factory 7 amp accessory switched ports behind the dash that made it very easy to add heated grips, dual USB charging ports, a GPS tracker hidden in the beak, etc.
The bike has ABS. It can be switched off for steep trail descents on my 2019 model but the newer models leave it on all the time but made it smart enough to allow rear wheel skid braking on steep off road descents.
An aluminum bash plate, engine protection bars, Bark Buster clones, larger pegs and a windshield were all inexpensive accessories that made the G310GS even more of an ADV bike.
BMW was clever in the G310GS design. The engine faces backwards so the exhaust is at the rear. There is no exhaust pipe in front or running along the bottom to be smashed off road or to burn the rider's leg if the bike is dropped. The exhaust exits at the rear of the engine and heads up and to the right so the exhaust weight is low and the exhaust is well protected. The engine is angled to sit lower to lower the center of gravity to improve stability while maintaining good ground clearance.
The G310GS is a fun and nimble bike. It's built in India but the components are BMW quality. I bought a 2019 model at the end of October before the new model was being released and BMW and the dealer had some nice incentives. I paid $4920 for a new baby GS out the door, with a three year factory warranty that I never needed. It's been 100% reliable and it's a relatively simple bike that's easy for me to maintain... or repair on the side of the trail if needed.
I considered all of the bikes on this list and chose the G310GS for the riding I do, and almost three years later, I'm very happy with my choice. It definitely deserves not only to be on this list, but near the top of this list of beginner ADV bikes.
Similar to the Honda 250/300, the Kawasaki KLX 250/300. It’s really a dual sport but could work for the right rider.
I went against my own advice and picked up a KTM 890 Adventure.
I know, I can’t complain if things go South.
I’m knocking on wood that it doesn’t.
Demo ride sealed the deal. The thing is outstanding to ride.
Can't give enough praise for the vstrom 650, Bought mine used with givi bags and about 8K miles for $5K, I'm getting close to 40K miles on it and besides regular maintenance parts, I have had no issues. Good on dirt roads and two tracks, wouldn't suggest it for anything more narly than that. I even did a track day on it and it was a blast. My wife has one too and last summer we took a 2K+ mile camping trip around lake superior. We have moto camped around all the great lakes except Ontario, that trip is planned for next summer.
Hello, thank you for that great video ! Are you planning on trying out the BMW GS310 by chance ? It would be great to have your feedback. Thank you very much !
that intro opening is an instant like for me, lol thanks for showing me that again
My first bike was a crf250l. With it loaded up for a five day trip it really was working hard to keep up with the others in the group. I only kept her for 5800km till I went for the Tenere 700. The Honda was perfect to learn on, but for me at 200lbs + gear she just didn’t have enough oomph.
I'm planning on going the same route (small dual sport to T7) but only with the KLX300. What are some things that have helped you transition to the T7?
I recently got my first bike, and so far it had been perfect. It is a BMW f650 gs
Me sitting in my garage looking at my brand new Tenere-700 that just came in last night trying to build my confidence to take it out on the street.
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I can take that out for you,.
@Tenny80 lol I'm sure you and many others can haha. I've taken it out a few times. Stalled at some stop signs around my street and did a few figure 8's..... So you could say I'm approaching the seasoned riders status.. 😏
@@durtyred86 we all start from the same
Spot :) I can remember thinking a huge ride was half an hour away now I go all over the place, 2-3 week trips etc it comes quick but don’t rush it! Take a rider training course!
@Tenny80 for sure!! And I'll be picking up courses once I'm confident on the road. Until then it's Moto Jitsu practice around my neighborhood.
I started my motorcycle journey on an Suzuki SV650 and I loved it but as the kids came around I decided it was a little too dangerous. So I sold it and a couple years later really wanted to get back on a bike so I decided to try some off road riding. I bought a Wr250r and have had it for about 2 years. It's been fun but I haven't enjoyed the more intense off road stuff I've tried as much as a I thought I would. Also getting to the off road stuff usually requires some highway rising and it's not fun on the WR. Looking to sell it now and getting back into more highway/ light off-road riding. Seen a couple of the V-storms for sale locally so I'm thinking that might be the bike for me. Thanks for all your videos Mr. Dork sir.
Car Junkie, I started on an SV 650 and went from there to a DL1000. The V-strom is street-capable, touring comfortable and if you are determined enough it will handle off-road depending on your skill level. If I were to do it all again I would probably go with the 650 Strom unless you plan to do a whole lot of 2-up. Good luck and happy riding!
I did similar. I had a DRZ400 and a SV650. I realized the DRZ was a bit overkill for most of the off-road riding around me. I traded the SV650 for a DL1000 and it was a good compromise. I do miss the 650 occasionally but I've also been really happy with the 1000 which absolutely crushes highway miles. My DL1000 has over 100k miles. Still have the DRZ too because its way too fun to get rid of.
One thing that's good to keep in mind: the high power of the bigger bikes (Africa Twin, GS, etc) isn't really useful offroad. Offroad/poor road riding is about low speed precision. The big power is helpful on the highway but doesn't really come in when the pavement ends, and comes with the cost of weight and dollars.
From the 300 Rally cult, Lmao, I love my Rally! And you’re right, I have no plans to get rid of it.
I have traveled to the Dork side and I like it.
Well they're all good choices for the right people. My hubby had the KLR650 is a very good bike. Our oldest son still has the z400, that's awesome bike off-road no doubt about it. And I still have the CB500X, it's one of my bikes. A bike I shall never sell. The CB500x what should I tell you about it. Well I can tell you one thing you got wrong, the older models from 2014 to 2016 their rims are very strong they're not weak as the newer models are. The newer models even though they have bigger rims have weaker rims and they tend to bend very easily. My CB500X is a 2015. It has a Rally Raided suspension, and it made a big difference in the bike handling off-road. I also as you brought out the foot pegs were not ideal so I changed those out right away. I also put risers on the handlebars and fat bars on it and a lot of different things of course to make it my own. The bike does wonderfully off-road and handles everything quite well, easy to use amazing on the highway and off-road. My hubby now owns the KTM 990 Baja, because he sold the KLR650, why? because he could not keep up with the CB500X. The CB500X is a great bike on the highway loves the twisties and if you fix this suspension it handles the off-road, single track trails and dirt roads amazingly you cannot go wrong with this bike. Great review love your Channel. Ih there's one more thing the gas mileage on the CB500X is amazing and it takes regular gas.
My first bike was the brozz 250 recon, I wanted to get into riding to see if I liked it and it was very affordable, thanks to your channel is how it came to my attention why didn’t that make the list?
I used to own a 2008 DL650 (Wee-Strom), I consider myself a rather skill street rider, but not so much of a dirt rider at the time. That generation of DL650 was a little top heavy and not so generous for me, however, it did make one amazing touring bike. After a rather nasty lowside in the dirt, I decided to move on and later on I bought a DRZ400-S and 17" SM wheels. The DRZ was a much better bike for me at that level which I used to build my confidence and sharpen my skills as a dirt rider and at the time I had a friend that rode a DR650, which I would swap out with him every so often. The DR650 is a super lazy bike for dirt riding with all the bottom-end torque made it plow through the dirt like a tractor and the wide plush seat made it super comfortable for pounding the pavement.
Hello great channel very nice mounted ;)
Good list with a lot of good bikes ! I really like my 2017 Versys-x 300. It does take some getting used to the high revving nature of the bike, but it's geared so low, it does good at low speeds too. It likes the revs enough to ride comfortably in the 70mph range (or more if you're so inclined). Several folks I talk to have taken them on 1K+ mile trips. I haven't done more than a couple hundred miles in a day, but with the Corbin seat ... it's pretty comfy. I mostly do back roads and forest service roads and trails (off-road per se ... just not single track 😉) Keep up the good work !
EDIT: I ride with my wife two-up all the time too ... it won't set speed records, but it's great us, and has no trouble with two folks 👍👍👍👍
I've done 8K km in 2-3 weeks time through the whole Ukraine and onward to Balkan peninsula and Turkey on Versys x300, 2017. Had no hiccups with the bike whatsoever during the trip. Just a few basic maintenance stops during which I had lubed and tied up the chain. Was decent while speeding thought the highways. Could sustain 150 km/h literally whole day long in the heat. I do recall the unbearable heat somewhere near Tirana, close to 37 C then, without impacting the performace of the bike. Not to meantion its light weight which induced me to experience one of the segments of TET route in Albanian mountains. All in all it is a suprisingly good allrounder.
+1 for a KLR. Good all around bikes.
I'm a KTM rider, but I am so stoked to get a brand new KLR650. Not sure why, but I just love it's value
Hey I’m looking for some input on the klx vs the klr looking at getting one or the other for my first dual sport but can’t decide what one
I’m on the bigger side being 6ft 230 lbs and I’m wondering what you would recommend
Got to say, you are an excellent speaker and have a really good channel, but I would not have included the Vstrom on this list for a beginner adventure bike. It's an awesome road bike, but would never consider doing something like a BDR on one.