2023 Best Trail Dirt Bike for Beginners (Plus bonus bike)
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In this video, I talk about which dirt bikes are the VERY best for beginners that are wanting to start trail riding.
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What bike did I miss and what bike did you start out on? Comment below.
The Honda CRF110, 125, 125 Big Wheel, and 250F are all air cooled EFI... For pure family trail riding these bikes are pretty much unmatched for beginners and pure recreation. But no jumping or high speed hits since that trail suspension is to soft... Honda does have a hole in their family friendly line up which the Kawasaki 140R F has a 33.9" Seat Height which is perfect for my 5.7" Wife. Unfortunately Honda has raised the bar with their air cooled 4 strokes being that they are all EFI now except for the little 50cc bike. But the Kawasaki should be perfect aside from potential carburetor issues with extreme elevation changes and if the gas goes bad from sitting to long without riding it... All of these bike will climb like Billy goats, have virtually no maintenance other than change the oil and put clean ethanol free gas in them. All of them have electric start, and have aftermarket head lights available. They are all on the heavy side when compared to moto cross bikes but don't fear that. The mild predictable and dependable power is what beginners and families ultimately are thankful for. I'm speaking from experience. I'm 41, married, and have 6 kids. All of which have the fore mentioned bikes.
I actually started on a Kawasaki 140 and am watching this for advice and I’m leaning toward the ktm 150
I’ve rode bikes before but my first is a Klx 300r. Love that bike besides it’s heavy lol
@@chrismillard3370 Yeah I hear good things about the KLX300R.
It's sad there's not a better choice bike tbh. The wr or rx chassis with an engine like the klr traits but 400ish cc would be the ultimate trail bike. Basically a modern xr400.
I'm 52 years old, 6' tall and I started on an 08 CRF 250X and like a dummy I sold it and bought an 06 CRF 250R. BIG MISTAKE. I then sold that and I now have an 06 yz250f and I really like this bike, but to answer the question, I wish I still had my 250x. This bike was an absolute amazing bike to learn on. The electric start is a game changer. My buddy also has a yx 230 f, and also a great bike to learn on. Good luck and ride safe.
Thanks for the comment Dave. E start really is so nice.
I loved my 250 x bought it after I sold my 450 but had to sell it too
Started riding again at 64 and bought my beloved ‘06 250x,,,, but I love my KTM XCW 300 even more. Designed for enduro it does everything perfectly and it pulls like a tractor at low rpms.
@@wiilp4621 no good.
@@carlfogle6517 yeah its tough to be the tractor pull of a 300XCW for sure
Totally agree on ktm 300 xc-w….also has softer suspension…which is easy on the body
First bike 2001 cr 125 .... love it and after 17 of not riding looking for a 125 or 250 2stroke yz or cr
Im 66 back into dirt and chose a yz250x added heavy fly wheel. I love it
What fly wheel did you get?
I started on a Yamaha 50cc, then moved up to an 80cc, then a 150, all "play bikes"... so long ago I can't remember the models. I finally landed on a Yamaha IT 465 which I sold a few years ago, that thing was an absolute beast... My dad had an IT490, we both road endless hours in Rampart Range in Colorado. Fun memories.
Thanks for sharing
Great video Sam, you got me thinking about my history on bikes. I'll start with my recent return to riding after many years away. I just bought a KLX 300 duel sport. After decades away from off road and now being 51, I still have the instinct and ability, but maybe not the reflex and durability I once had. Day 2 and for those who know the Fraser Valley area in British Columbia, I've been up the West side of Stave lake and to Weaver lake up the West side of Harrison. This bike was an awesome choice for me. This bike is like baby bear, not to hard, not to soft, it's just right. Here's my ride history. 1979 Honda Z50, 1983 Honda XR80, my favourite dirt bike a 1985 Kawasaki KDX200, 1990 KX250. Then onto the street, 1985 Honda VF500. My favourite street bike 1988 Honda 650 hawk. And finally my last full street bike, a 1996 VFR750.
Thanks for sharing. It’s fun to hear what other people’s bike history looks like. I would like to try out the KLX300 one day just to see what it’s like. I love British Columbia be am normally up there in the winter. I need to make a trip up there in the summer with my bike!
This is excellent advice. All the best pure trail bikes have been covered for beginner riders. I would also include some of the dual sport bikes. They are good if you need to connect with trails using public roads. The plate is nice if you live in places with strictly enforced laws. They will not perform as well as these dedicated trail bikes in stock form, but will be quite adequate for most riders. With suspension upgrades you can turn them into very competent trail bikes.
Thanks for your input. There are some good dual sports out there for sure
Started on an 04 rmz 290 night bore trail riding. Now I'm on a 2019 wr450f and absolutely love it
I hear the WR 450 F is a great bike
Love pretty much any of the newer bikes engine-wise...keep in mind the same sadist designs all the seats for ktm, beta, gasgas, etc...pretty much a concrete mold with vinyl stretched over it.
Started on a mini bike. ha. 73 Yamaha ct 3 175 enduro that grew my love for riding off road. Looong stretch of not riding because of health issues. At 68 riding again on a 2013 Ktm 200 xc-w & loving it. Your buddy Kyle ( with some of your input) help narrow it down to that bike. So I do appreciate all of the advice.
Good to hear your back riding again! Yeah I’m a big fan of 200 2-strokes and wish KTM still made one. We have a Beta 200RR that’s awesome
Started out on a 2018 KTM 300 XCW; it is an awesome bike for new people!
Yeah surprisingly good for sure!!
I am still a beginner and bought my first dirt bike at age 54 to ride with my 13year old son. I bought an XR250 for my first bike and then got a great deal on on XR 400. It’s challenging but fun as well. I would really like fuel injection and electric start though.
The XR400 is a super super reliable bike! E-start is really nice as well. What bike would you get next after your XR?
All I do is trail riding and I just bought a 2017 yz450f all stock and I am constantly shooting off into the bush holding on for dear life… I bought it because it was a great deal. I learnt on a kx100
Yeah the 450F bikes are a beast to hold onto.
🤣🤣 lol I bought a kx450f to trail ride and it has not been a relaxing experience. It just wants to go fast fast. Afraid to put much more money into it to make it woods friendly bc then will never recoup from it.
@@keithphillips1234 haha yeah it am sure its a fun bike to ride.
Great advice right here.
Thank you!!
I’m 35 and I am just starting out with the ktm 300 xcw. 2017. Easy handling and all the power of need be
Good choice and congrats. What type of riding are you planning on doing?
Great information.
Thanks
Started on CRF-150 F -170cc bore done by BBR perfect bike
Sounds like a sweet bike!
I started on an '84 Suzuki PE175. Great bike to start out on. It had a mellow and linear power curve. It could also boogie when you were hard on the clutch and throttle. I do wish the Big 4 would put out a simple 2 stroke. I would recommend a 2 stroke to someone starting out for the simplicity of the engine. They tend to be lighter and are very easy to work on.
84 Suzuki PE175 sounds like an awesome bike! Yeah I wish the big 4 would as well and it probably save them haha
yamaha still makes the yz250, and an x version thats better for single track suspension wise.
Guys from yesteryears rode around on little 175 4 strokes and were fine the klx300/crf250f is really all you need anything above that is just luxury.
For sure ride what you got!
Rode from 7-18 yrs old. Again in early to mid 30s. Back at it at 52. Woods and trail riding a 22 ktm 300 xcw tpi. Love it. Ditched stock silencer for a pro circuit spark arrestor can and it runs far better. It’s a tractor just like ya said.
Awesome! I have a FMF can on ours and I can’t tell the difference 😂 maybe should have got the pro circuit. Yeah the 300 XCW can lug!
Sounds like me, except I haven't ridden since my late 20's and I'm 51 now. Watching Videos on UA-cam makes me miss it bad. Last bike I had was a Honda CR 450 dirt bike. I want a bike so bad but can't convince my wife...She thinks it's a midlife crisis...LOL! I'd take that KTM 300 enduro bike he mentioned at the end of the video all day every day, and ride it like a teenager with my hair on fire. I had dirtbikes from the time I was 8 years old up to my late 20's. Several Honda CRs and Yamaha YZs from the 80's and 90's...Thousands of hours on them...
Im in the process of buying a Kawasaki 230. My friend was showing me how to ride Saturday and 125 was just way too small but his YZ250F with the power difference was not just there it presented itself. Accidentally popped the front wheel up so once on the ground I stalled it and fell but eventually got riding and it was exhilarating. He recommended the 230 as a first bike. My goal is to work my way from dirt bike to adventure bike.
Awesome, we all have to start somewhere way to stick at it! Yeah a Kawasaki 230 is a great beginner bike.
Started on a Chinese 70cc then went to a TTR 90, rode friends XR100s and KLX125s then to a TTR225 (before they made the 230) and I’m glad I did. Learned all the fundamentals really well on it and then got a YZ125 which I still have. I had a chance to ride a friends CRF250X and was impressed but I love my 2stroke YZ, The trail bikes are slower and have limited suspension but are excellent for learning.
Thanks for the comment!
I just bought a 2002 ttr225! Still has the original set of pirelli tires, so the bike has been used very little since being built. Pretty excited to learn on it.
I bought a kxf 450 as a first bike for trail riding and enduro.. i must say i was dissapointed in power, i hoped it had more on it as everybody makes it seem super powerful.... had no issue riding it for 2 weeks and i will admit its a handful probably not everybody can ride it but me personally i wish it had at least twice the power🤣 if not three times so now looking at the 700cc enduro bikes... bad bits about the 450 damn hard to start once it overheats and and not ideal to learn tricks as it feels heavy... rode the 300 250 and 125 two stroke and they defenetly felt underpowered compared to my 450 and that made me feel abit better ( made me think my 450 motor was healthy) and made me feel abit sad as i hoped my 450 engine needs a rebuild and thats why is so slow🤣. Good bits i could ride the 450 monster torque up any slopes on trails and that feelt great
I’m 52 and haven’t been on a bike since my KX80 back in 83’. Bought a used 07 KX250 and love it, but over the kickstart. Looking at a 2022 KX250X. I think this bike is great for both trail and track.
Nice!! I would love to get my hands on a 22 KX250X I hear they are sweet bikes, Yeah at some point I get sick of trying to kick my bike. Definitely like the cheater E-start.
Iv gotta say the KLX300R is an outstanding trail bike for everything outside of enduro single track. Everywhere else the power, clutch, efi mapping, suspension is just smooth and it needs nothing but gas to ride. Responds well to aftermarket power upgrades too. Xtrainer is my favorite single track bike, its like cheating and it somehow got a rap of "beginner" bike cuz of price but finally getting some love for normal trail riders and Vet guys who just want to enjoy riding instead of racing.
Thanks for your insight! Yeah I have seen the Beta xtrainer do some pretty gnarly terrain like our 200RR it should be called a cheater bike in gnarly terrain
I started out on a Honda Xr200 when I was 12 then when I was 16 movers to a Honda CRF230 both were great trail bikes and that’s mainly what I do is mountains. Now that being said I haven’t road in over ten years and looking to get back into trail riding and leaning towards the KLX300R as I am a bigger guy have experience but I think a 450 is overkill for trail use.
Yeah the KLX300 has larger suspension and is liquid cooled. I think the only downside is they are heavy but I think is a solid choice.
Can’t agree enough on the “don’t get a 450”. My friend has one and it legitimately scares me. You can crack the throttle on the street in 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th and your front wheel WILL come up. They’re amazing machines.
But the most fun I’ve ever had on a trail, to be completely honest, was an electric dirt bike. Struggle free riding. Zero maintenance or carb issues. No noise. No oil. No gas. Ridiculously light. Easy to bail. To find a gas bike that does that, idk. Doesn’t really exist.
But I’d probably go with a YZ250FX or a KTM XC 250 or 300.
Yeah 450's are a beast to handle. Electric bikes are sooo fun and we loved our Freeride EXC the battery life just wasn't enough for our rides. My favorite bike of all time is the 250XC....its the best do it all bike in my opinion. If I could only choose 1 4 stroke bike to ride it would be the 2021 YZ250FX
I now have a '21 Xtrainer. This was an upgrade from a KX 100. The xtrainer is a GREAT bike! It is just so easy to ride, lightweight, nimble, handles great. Thanks for showing it in your lineup. Great video.
Yeah the XTRAINER is a sleeper bike and probably the best beginner - to intermediate dirt bike for single track.
This was compared in power to a 450 F , is it that powerful? I’m trying to find a less snappy and lighter bike than a FE350
@@davidb9323 i don't think it would be anywhere near as powerful as a 450 and because it has been detuned, its very manageable, linear and torquey. No powerband hit. Easy to ride.
@@OGMmoto what about skid plates, do they make them for 2T ? The pipe seems easy to hit off logs
@@davidb9323 it comes with a plastic skid plate that works pretty well. The pipe does tend to get a bit bashed up. I think Radiator guards are a good idea.
Im still a beginner i currently ride a yz125x but have been lucky enough to try a lot of different bikes i would say thay were all rideable except for the rmz450 it was way to much and i stalled it a lot definitely for me the yz125x is the best all round bike for me but i enjoyed every from a xr100 to yz250
Yeah a 450 is not a great bike for beginners. Good choice with the YZ125X its a great bike!
I have a 98 cr500 and others but the sr250s 2022 SSR has outdone themselves in my opinion especially if you're looking for just a nice trail bike it has six speeds can crawl it at 5 miles an hour has the NC 250 motor goes up to 80 mph does amazing on Trails does really well on the roads it's a pretty impressive bike and it has a 21 inch front tire 18-in back tire electric and kickstart 38in seat height has plenty of power to get up any hill climbs and does great on Long rides would be a good beginners bike
I haven't spent any time with the SSR bikes.
I agree 100%, I would go as far as no beginner should get a 450 period. Regardless if its trail, dunes or track. If you want to moto then 250 is forgiving, but can still scoot if you want it to.
Amen.
I started on a old 83' KDX 400 smoker.
I rode the 2022 Beta 300 RR yesterday. First thing is the seat will eat you up, second was the how mild and even the power band was compared to my 250XC. My 250XC is pretty strong all the way through, it's pretty eager to get on it. It felt so tame, almost too tame coming from my KTM. It's quieter and just a tame feeling bike. I liked it, but I felt older on it....haha.
Needless to say, I'm shopping for a newer KTM 250XC or a 300 if I can find a decent deal. I'm ready to move to electric start, tired kicking my bike a ledge or climb, especially with a long and stiff kick stroke like my bike.
Anyhow subbed, not sure if you're in NM or CO; just got back Wolf Creek snowboarding a few weeks back. Good trip, needed it to last longer.
Thanks for the comment and sub really appreciate it.. Yeah the Beta 300 are a different beast with the power band and lower seat height. I really like the beta 200RR but if I could only have one bike it would be a 250XC to me it’s the best so it all bike and with the newer ones with fuel injection makes them even better in my opinion. Hope you find a great deal on a 250 or 300xc. I liked my 300xc bikes but I just like the 250 motor more. I’m in Utah and actually responding to you up at our cabin where we do lots of backcountry snowboarding. I also run another YT channel called backcountry life that has a bit of everything but right now it’s snowboarding
Looking to get into dirt bikes. Coming from a Harley Dyna. Mostly be doing trail riding. Some on/off road riding getting to some trails. I really like the yz250f but not sure if that’s the best choice for a trail bike do to overheating issues I’ve been told? a lot of my friends suggest the KTM 300 exc. what would you suggest.
Welcome to the dirt side! So the KTM 300 is a way better trail bike then the YZ250F. Is your trails fast or slow?
I live in the mountains which can really be challenging, I had everything from a beginner bike like you suggested in the beginning and you are spot on with your take on em'! I started out on a TTR230, it was a great beginner bike, moved up too fast to a Kawasaki KX250 2 stroke which earned me my nickname, too much whisky throttle by water holes made for a dripping wet day lol, my all time favorite bike I ever owned was a 2003 RM125, just felt like the bike and I were one with each other!
Yeah mountains can be humbling for the single track riders and not having a hard enduro specific bike makes it tricky to ride. Man sounds like that RM was a gem of a bike. It’s fun to find a bike that makes you feel like there is no difference between you and the bike!
The first bike I ever rode was an 89 KX 80, big wheel at 8 yro at a road-side track in Singapore, with my dad and his biker buddies. My day had to put me on it and hold it up right, so I could take off. He gave me a crash course in shifting and set me lose. I even took a small embankment that was pretty steep and maybe 15' high. A few weeks later he put me on a full-on road bike for adults (cant recal the make or cc), with his friend Steven sitting back seat to take control, should anything go wrong.🤣🤘 I have pictures. I am not afraid of a large bike. 🤣 Thanks dad!
Awesome story! Thanks for sharing
@4:30 2t vs 4t on the trail. I went from a 22tpi te150i to a 22 yz250fx. The fx needed a few things, flywheel, throttle cam, hymec clutch and suspension revalve front + back. I doubt I will consider owning 2T again after this. The YZFX was less expensive even after the tuning for rough single track style riding. 4t is the new 2t, simple, affordable, low maintenance long lifespan, high mpg to boot over tpi/2t bikes. Wish I could have them all though.
Yeah I wish I could have them all as well. I’m a big fan of the YZ250FX! Still a 2 stroke guy when it comes to gnarly single track
Did mostly the same on my 2020 yz250fx. Haven't done the flywheel yet... gotten pretty good with controlling clutch slipping and modulation for the gnar. A set of gummy's does wonders on the climbs. Finally, helped to detune the engine a lot.
@@MkruzerNice, the heavy flywheel makes All the difference, and hymec clutch makes clutch work effortless.
😅started on a old Klx650 then got a yz450 and a few months ago I started getting into 2strokes for trail riding 🤦♂️🤦♂️ I was missing out on so much.
Wow yeah must of been like riding a Harley on the trails then switching to a mountain bike haha
I own a 2009 ktm 250 Excf. The bike is very reliable and isn’t too tall. Super good low end torque, very decent top end power. Trust the older ktm 250 Excfs are the way to go if ur learning. I did more or less start on a crf 230 and if ur a kid that’s a good option, but if ur over 170lbs definitely get a 250
Thanks for your insight.
Thanks for the input… looking at a ktm 250… what’s the difference between a 2017 SX-F or a XCFw. Just want to putt around trails, no racing.
First dirt bike, but tracked street bikes. 6’2, 210.
SXF as motocross bikes XCFW are off-road single track bikes. The XCFW is a better choice for putting around on trails
I started out on a brand new 2004 xr70, then upgraded to a brand new 2007 cr85, raced for a while. Haven’t really rode much since besides atvs for years but thinking about getting a crf250rx. Any other suggestions? Ktms seem too pricy lol
I personally like the YZ250fx vs the CRF250RX however both are solid bikes and if you find a good deal on either I would buy the one that’s the best deal
I started on a yz80 in the 80's. Moved up to a yz125 and then yz250. There were no trail bikes other than dual sport type motorcycles back then. I have currently moved back to a 125 after 40 years of riding. It suits my style better and I figure there is a slight chance I could ride it at 100% of its potential something that is impossible on any big bore bike for us mere mortals.
Yeah the ole YZ80 every kids dream bike haha!! Yeah I think we are going to get us a 125XC for our do it all bike. Every time I ride a 450F it reminds me how terrible I am at dirtbikes 😂
Awesome 80's bikes. Started off on a YZ80 also...Had a YZ 125 and CR 250 also...My much older and bigger cousin got a CR 450 in the 90s, and after I rode it some and got used to it, I went and got one. Never had as much fun on the 450 as the smaller bikes though. It was kind of scary to ride on more difficult rocky or loose gravel, and steep trails...
I personally like the crf 250f it’s a 23 but it’s green sticker and very easy to learn on just like the ktm I can ride it on a higher gear and won’t kill the bike but that’s my personal opinion
Awesome thanks for your input, I personally haven’t spent any time on the 23’ CRF250F. We have a 2021 CRF125F and it’s a great bike
I have a husqvarna fc 350 its used for track racing but would it be to much for trail ridding
Yeah the gearing and suspension makes a track mx bike a handful on trail riding but it can work just plan on using lots of clutch
I LAUGHED OUT LOUD when you said Don't Buy A 450 for you first dirt bike. 🤣 Dude I wish I watched your video sooner. Honda sold me a 450X for my first dirt bike and it's gonna kill me. Been on pavement for 30 years. Sport to baggers. But this dirt is a different world. 🤦♂️
Haha yeah 450’s are beasts. I feel like every time I ride one I’m just holding on.
Been on the fence of a KTM 150XCW or a 250XC. Any suggestions between the two? Havent rode in 5 years mainly single track/woods riding. And just around my property. Been back and forth for weeks
So if I could only have one bike a 250XC is the best do it all hike in my opinion. If you just ride single track then the 150 XCW is great! And I like the how nimble the 150XCW is in the woods. Also the 150 allows you to learn better techniques and doesn’t rip your arms off. Both are great bikes but if you don’t really ride moto or desert stuff the 150XCW is what I would choose.
I started on a CRF450R as my first bike, trail bike everything dirtbike and I lived to tell the tale...
haha glad you lived to tell the tale!!! You must have Popeyes' arms.
@@dirtbikesam haha. I grew up riding bmx and playing drums in death metal bands. Wouldn’t say I had popeye arms, but I did have some good grip strength I suppose.
@@x_Heffe_X Nice!
Hey Sam.... how do you feel about the 250xcw? Instead of the 300?
I personally like the 250 motor better as it is more of a free revving motor however I typically get a 250xc for most of my riding but if all I did was ride gnarly single track I would stick with the 300XCW. But…typically you can find better deals on the 250’s and the gap between the 2 isn’t all that big on the XCW. The resell value is better on a 300 but you pay more so it’s a wash. It you can want a tractor then go to 300 but if you want a 4x4 truck that as a bit more options go 250
Started on a klx230r. Didn't understand how good of a bike it was to start on until I upgraded. Engine is really down tuned to keep it running cool and control the power. Suspension is softer but not like a dual sport. This bike started first turn over every single time. Rpm's are programmed high and on flats you can pop the clutch (no throttle) and it will not stall.
Moved up to a yz250fx and detuned the engine with extra fuel and delayed timing to get it back to the performance of the klx so I could start from where I left off.
Thanks for the input! They are such solid and reliable bikes! What year is your YZ250FX?
@@dirtbikesam 2020.
@@Mkruzer Oh nice. So far the YZ250FX is my favorite 4 stroke, we will see if the CRF250RX can do better or not
@@dirtbikesam totally interested in that. I'm hear in utah if you need help testing.
@@Mkruzer Yeah, that would be cool to get other people's opinions. As long as you are ok being in front of a camera.
Would you recommend a wr250 for trail and sand pit riding?
Yeah the WR is awesome for trail riding but sanding riding mean you have to ride more wide open with a 250F
Has anyone tried the klx150bf? I have heard it's a good full size beginner bike.
I haven’t
My very first dirt bike is my 2017 KTM 350 SX-F. Not really the right bike to start on, but it makes you learn quick! I love riding it, but it's just not really a good tight/technical trail bike, at least not for me. My son has a DRZ250, and that thing just lugs right along. I think I might sell mine and look at getting a 2 stroke.
Yeah for sure, any SXF KTM is not good for single track. What bike you thinking about getting.
@@dirtbikesam I’m thinking either a Honda CR250, or a Yamaha YZ250x. Or if I stick to a 4 stroke, maybe a CRF250L so I can drive to the trails, or CRF250F, or a 250 from another manufacturer. I’m new to all of this, so just starting to do research on what might suits me best. All I know is I’ll be sticking to something used to keep the cost down (hoping to sell my KTM and have a bit of pocket change left), but good used bikes seem difficult to find here.
Hey mate what 2 stroke bike would you recommend for a first bike for being able to do anything *mostly trail/enduro riding occasional mx* for a beginner in the 200-300cc range
Feel free to just link a video if you have one on it I have been watching all the crf250rx vs yz250fx but they’re both 4 stoke
Beta 200rr, ktm150xcw. We own a 200rr and love it, we want to get a 2024 ktm150xcw and a 2024 beta 200rr and do a shoutout but we just need to earn more money
@@dirtbikesam yeah sweet! I just found the beta videos lastnight after posting that comment and went hang on a minute I think this might be the one! Especially being a kindve shorter rider myself around 5’7 I think the lower stand over and lighter bike might be the ticket!
And yeah fair enough mate these things ain’t cheap, thanks for the good content! And the reply’s ✌️
Let me know what bike you end up with
top quality
Thanks
We started on the TTR 230 and Honda CRF250f I would say those two bikes are great for beginners
They really are great beginner bikes. The best part of those bikes is that they are about half the price of the xtrainer. For someone just getting into it, that's a lot of money to spend.
You are exactly right! Thanks for your input.
Oh for sure the Xtrainer is spendy. the 230 and the 250F are great starter bikes and more affordable and generally pretty reliable.
Just got back into it after 30 years really enjoying my crf250f
I’m not a beginner . I started with a Crf450r and it’s kinda difficult for hard enduro that’s why I want to get a new one . Do you think I can make it with a 300 exc or with a 450 exc ?
Hard enduro I would go with the 300 exc! It’s the best there is for hard enduro
My BEST recommendation for a beginner dirt bike, is a Sur Ron. If you saw me ride one off road, you’d think I’d been around dirt bikes before. If you saw me on my WR250 off road, you’d think I was just learning to ride a motorcycle.
Yeah thats solid advice. We at one time owned a KTM Freeride E-XC and it was so easy to ride.
How long does it take to charge? You have the 72v? Does it need a 220 *outlet?
A longer pull throttle cam will help new riders modulate power.
Is that on any bike ?
I am picking up a new 23 Husqvarna TE250 2 stroke this week. I haven't ridden for about a decade, and I can build it to be a 300 for less than the price difference between the 250 and 300.
Congrats! Excited for you. Yeah I personally like the 250 2strokes motor better in the KTM/Husky bikes over the 300.
@@dirtbikesam thanks bro ❤️ 🤓
Question- Not beginner rider but I've been away for awhile...whats the best choice? Grew up on dirt bikes, sport bikes in early 20s. Then 25 years of adulting without a motorcycle at all. Now (50 years old) riding a Versys 650 (good bike to knock the rust off the skills) but upgrading this year to Ducati supersport 950 or Aprilia RS660. Getting my 16 year old son into riding. Most likely Kawasaki 140RF or Honda CRF125FBW for him. For me, I was looking at KLX 300R or Honda CRF250F but concerned I might out grow them quick...would Beta Xtrainer be better or are they similar? Not looking to race but not afraid of a challenge.
What type of riding do you plan on doing?
@@dirtbikesam Mostly trails. Nothing to extreme as my son is just learning to ride but I can foresee the level of difficulty increasing quickly. We live in northeast Tennessee so we have a lot of options.
I started out a Xpro Titan 250 but I have ridden mopeds all my life my Xpro was the first manual 5 speed I have driven on a dirt bike before just one catch to these Xpro xmotos bikes if anyone is interested when buying these I recommend changing the spark plugs when you first get them
I have to look into a Xpro titan
@@dirtbikesam yeah only problem I have seen with my Xpro Titan is on the UA-cam videos they say the brake caliper tends to break off to me that could happen with any dirt bike only real thing I have noticed is they don't tell you is the bike has a 3 choke setting it has to be all the way up to start which is full choke and then started is all the way down is no choke
Yeah the Xpro Titan ant a bad bike for the price but I will admit that it is more cold natured than the 125 Xpro my wife owns so yes I have been starting my bike out in the middle on choke setting cuz it is easy to flood out only way to fixed it once it is flooded is by removing the spark plug and spraying carburetor cleaner on it and restarting it I have even installed a two prong battery tender on mine to keep the battery charged up
I just got the xpro Templar M 250. Geared super low and have 70 miles on it so far. Feels so weird with the big 21” wheel coming from road bikes! With that centripetal force feels like it will never fall down. Waiting for the trails to dry up a bit. Got it plated and trail tags - first dirt bike.
I'm 18 and I've grown up riding quads and stuff with a clutch but I've never owned a dirt bike and I'm looking for something for the trails but also I live by silver lake sand dunes so I'd like something to ride up there. I'd ride 2 or 4 stroke. Got any recommendations?
The dunes are a whole different beast as sand really asks a lot out of a bike in the power and suspension department. Lots of guys prefer the 4 strokes in the sand as they tend to stay more planted while a 2 strokes rear tire wonders searching for traction. My favorite desert bike is the 2021 YZ250FX
@@dirtbikesam okay thanks man I'll have to check those out!
Great video overall with tons of info. One thing is that I disagree that the KTM 150XCW is a beginner bike. It requires a LOT of clutch finesse and keeping it revved up. You can't be lazy to ride that bike well. The 300XCW is actually easier to ride because it can lug. You could talk about the used market like old XRs. The XR 200-250 were indestructible goats to learn on.
Good insight, yeah the 300xcw is easier to ride but the 150xcw will teach you how to ride better cause you can cheat with the magical 300 motor
Do you recommend a kawasaki kx112 ? For trail
It’s a great bike but it’s for motocross, if your just getting started I don’t recommend it for trails as it’s a full fledged race bike and the KLX140 would be much better on the trails
@@dirtbikesam thanks 🙏
I have seen good riders riding the Ttr230
and the crf250f beat riders on higher performance bikes in hare scramble races. Enjoyed your video and I agree stay away from the 450's for a beginner bike.I have seen experienced riders getting hurt on a 450 because of too much power.
I rode with Shane Watts and he was on a TTR230 and none of us on the big bikes could keep up with him!
It must have been a fun experience riding with him.
@@ironthumb3048 Yeah he is a bit of a character for sure. I run into him a bunch up on the trails as he lives here in Utah now.
What are your thoughts on a crf450rx with a rekluse clutch? For a guy who has ridden smaller bikes but not alot.
I haven’t ridden the 22’ and newer CRF450RX but you have to remember that the RX are closely related to the motocross bikes which make them a handful. A rekluse will help manage the power going in slow terrain as you don’t have to use the clutch. It’s considered a closed course race bike. Where do you plan on riding and how much time do you sped riding?
It would be used in northern Minnesota trails mostly with an occasional trip elsewhere. Usually riding for the day. Pretty casual trails but you can find some good terrain as well.
@@cstmdlx20 Nice sounds fun. Are they pretty open flowy trails? If so then the 450RX probably isn't a bad choice. The tighter and gnarly it gets the harder it is to ride the 450F's
Yes that's how I'd describe alot of the trails here, big enough for sxs's and atvs, lots of variety as far as mud, rocks, and sand/dirt. I've been on atvs and utvs the last few years and was thinking about a new experience with dirtbikes. That's what drew me to your video originally.
@@cstmdlx20 you are welcome to email me at sam @dirtbikesam.com
Are 2 strokes good for trail riding
Yes they are. I would argue they are the best for trail riding. But make sure its a a enduro or offroad 2 stroke and not a motocross dirt bike.
If you’re a bigger guy (6’3” 270 lb) should you be trying to get a larger bike? How big would you recommend?
What type of riding are you looking to do?
@@dirtbikesammore enduro style.
So the KTM 300XCW is a great bike, Beta 390RR or WR250, KTM250XCF, YZ250FX
I have been a street biker (sports bike, cruiser and naked bikes) for 13 yrs and wanted to enter the world of trail/enduro riding. What bike can you recommend for me? Not that tall. Just 167cm tall😅 thanx in advance
Beta Xtrainer or Beta 200RR both have lower seat heights but fantastic trail riding bikes with electric start and great power.
@@dirtbikesam thanx you. How about within yamaha, honda and ktm brand. What CC and stroke you highly recommend for starting trail riding
But yes very good video
Thanks
I started on a Honda crf125 and am selling it to get a crf250
Nice!
I have a DRZ 400 which aint bad to learn on if you're big. Things a damn horse though So you'd better be like 200 pounds 6' tall and pretty strong. I'm definitely saving my pennies for a KTM 300 XCW though.
Yeah the last time I rode a DRZ on the trails I thought I was going to die! I’m sure they are great on the street but I would have to be a lot tougher to trail ride a DRZ haha
@@dirtbikesam i gotta S with trail tires on it, its a bit tall but it works
What about a recommendation for someone who is 300lbs and 6’2”? I used to race XC on a TRX450R but now I’m wanting to switch over to dirt bikes.
what type of riding are you planning on doing?
@@dirtbikesam mostly XC and trail riding/racing
@@GThompson42012 what bikes do you have on your list?
@@dirtbikesam well prior to this video, a 250 2 stroke or 450 4 stroke 😂😂😂. Probably a KTM or Honda.
Hey man I'm 14 and stand a 6 foot and about 65kg what would be the best first bike for me and my dad is very no no don't get a 2 stroke because he thinks there all race bikes as he has never actually own a dirt bike but I have family that have and still do plus mates that are willing to teach me I'm going to be riding rivers and woodland trails but will learn in the home padock
TTR230 or CRF250F are solid options and great trail bikes. Yeah there are lots of misconceptions around 2 strokes. Or if you want a bigger full size bike then the WR250
But if I did want to get for a 2 stroke or something what would be best
@@LJ_Adventure79 Beta Xtrainer 300, Beta 200RR are the best trail bikes, if you want more of a cross country bike then the KTM 150XCW, KTM 125XC or the YZ125X
Ok thanks man I want a 2 stroke trail bike so I can learn better technique and clutch control
@@LJ_Adventure79 good call a 2 stroke really helps you develop those skills
i started on apn 6
I am not sure what a APN 6 is.
@@dirtbikesam best moped from yugoslavia look it up on google tomos apn 6 it has diffrent variants
(BEGINNER - HELP) I am 6 foot and close to 190 lbs but my parents say a 250 4 stroke is too powerful but any other bike that is less powerful like a trail bike (ttr230) is too small people say. Is a 34 inch seat height really that much of a difference from a full size 27 inch. Im kind of stuck because the only full size bikes that will fit me are "too powerfull" :/ what do i do?
A 250F race bike definitely has way more power than the TTR230. What type of riding do you plan on doing?
@@dirtbikesam It would be trail riding, i dont want anything too powerful anyways for now just looking for a trail bike, but all of the trail bikes are "too short" for me and it wont be comfortable but im not too sure about that because im only 6 feet tall its not like im a giant. Just wanted some help on what i should do. Thx for the reply btw.
@@fru1tyju1ce78 The TTR230 is a really easy bike to learn on but standing up on it which is important a full-size dirt bike will be easier to stand up on. Bikes like the Yamaha WR250 are a little less powerful than the motocross and cross-country versions. To me you can always sell the bike down the road as you get more experience. So either bike would work.
@@dirtbikesam I was looking at a cr250x, its a full-size trail bike with like 29 hp or 24 rwhp but im still afraid the number 250 will scare my parents away :/ Thanks for the help btw.
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@@dirtbikesam thanks Sam
This bike was really easy to assemble ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxMesz3KOGEmwmvyKQfLfrRSUXLFzfVHZA and required very few adjustments out of the box. The wheels did not require any truing/adjustments. The frame had some small scratches, but nothing major.I did replace the seat though - the seat it came with was very uncomfortable. The tires need to be re-inflated every 4-5 days, but this appears to be quite common for the narrow 700x25 tires.Overall, in my opinion, this bike looks and rides like a much more expensive bike.
Honda crf 250-f
Solid choice for a beginner bike!
Why did you not mention yz250fx ?
Because it’s not a beginners bike especially for trail riding
I had one, coming off a dual sport and it wasnt a good bike unless u rode race speed 100% of the time. Jerky throttle and harsh suspension on slow rocks/roots. Its definitely a race bike
Kdx200 all day every day 😎
I wish they still made them
If you have hills don’t get a 150xcw. If you don’t have strep hills it’s wonderful. Southern Ohio steep wet hills that bike sucks for that.
First bike= small, light, under powered and easy to get both feet on the ground. Ride it until you can push it hard, then up grade to a real bike.
Great input!
Good video but quite honestly i don't think a 300 2 stroke is beginner friendly at all. Yes it might be very luggable and easier to ride / get over obstacles at first but once a beginner gets to a bit faster paste / more open terrain it will literally rip his arms out. If we're talking about first and second gear lugging around, being lazy sure a beginner is gonna have fun with that but at 3rd gear and upwards a beginner is only going to be a passenger to the bike... Not to mention you will most likely always rely on the power to get you through technical obstacles and not actually learn proper technique / clutching... Most people i've heard from that started on a 300 2t (or god forbid 450 4t) regret it to this day and whish they started smaller. Because once you realize that you never learned the right technique, the only way to learn it is to take a step back and buy a smaller bike to learn on which can be... frustrating. So yeah in conclusion i'd say as a beginner get a ktm 150 2t / beta 200 2t / yamaha 250 4t / sherco 300 4t but not more cc than that
Thanks for your input
Husqvarna TE 150
Great bike
200 cc Husky would be a great trailbike.
I agree.
Crf250f is the ticket
Great beginner bike!
BETA 200RR 🏁
Love our 2020 Beta 200RR
A 450 is never right for trail riding whether you are beginner or expert.
I agree but some people think they need a 450
Wr is a race MX. Not a beginner bike.
While that is true and the new ones are not much different then the YZ bikes its still not as powerful as the other YZ 4T bikes and the older models are more mellow.
@@dirtbikesam I just got a new one with a GET ECU and and believe me it's as powerful as the YZ. Amazing bike but it's a bit of work on the slow, round terrain. Not what the wr used to be 😬 it's pretty much a MX bike now. They screwed all the customers in favor of stupid reviewers I'm guessing.
Oh yeah a GET ECU will wake up a WR for sure. We have a 2021 YZ250FX and its one of my favorite bikes of all time but I do wish the WR would be more of a hard enduro race bike instead of MX.
@@dirtbikesam Actually I have to take back what I said. I played around with the mapping and suspension setup and basically turned it into a trail bike. It's gentle and plush, but now I miss the sharp and precise handling of the MX setup😂😅. So I might actually go back to it. There's just no pleasing some people 😉🤣
@@dirtbikesam Oh, I forgot to mention it has a full Arrow exhaust with no restrictions on it as well as the get ECU. So working together makes a difference also.
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What dirt bike do you have now?
My first bike was a 97 XR400. Very heavy and super hard to kick at 5'8 and 150 lbs. I then went to a 2003 KLX300R. This bike was fantastic to learn on but was heavy and would tire me out really fast. Just this year I bought I Rieju 200 Ranger. It's effortless. I absolutely love it! Rieju doesn't get mentioned enough since they took over GasGas manufacturing. Check em out.
For sure, the Rieju is a solid bike, I need to get my hands on one