Yah honestly AKs have lost their luster for anyone except the people bound and determined for some reason to buy/run AKs. IMO, buy a WASR, WBP, Zastava basic AK. Mount a dot, bubba a light on, run it. If you want somethin else, get something else. If you REALLT want something AK-Esque, get a Galil. It’s literally better in every way for not much more than this gun, but from a company with a better track record, after market support, more calibers, etc….
$1600 is a hefty chunk of change for a firearm with the words _Century Arms_ written on the side. For an extra couple hundred dollars you can get an Arsenal Sam Series or even the new Dissent from CMMG. Or save a couple hundred with the Mutant, or even more with a Zastava. You can find those for under a thousand smackaroos now.
@@noclass2gun342wrong again and not even a nice try. NO, I'd expect that it's you that understands little and has been sold a line. It depends upon machining and materials engineering. Just cutting notches into a poorly manufactured barrel manages to do more harm than good, unless you're so anemic that those three ounces make all the difference for you. No, improper fluting does not make a barrel more rigid, it does make the barrel slightly lighter, and it usually helps heat dissipation...but it almost always helps sells rifles to the lesser-educated.
I have it, its a great rifle, very soft shooting for an AK. Put a better brake on it and its amazing. I was timing myself on a three shot drill with this AK and and AR which is upgraded also and the times were the same. i was surprised. The recoil is like an AR. You absolutely do not feel it in the shoulder. Its like a Meridian but at half the price.
@@S1deshowRob I'm pretty certain theres aftermarket rear stock plates for various zastava receiver types as well as zastava factory options that does the same, both the ZPAP85 and ZPAP92's have variants that come with buffer tube stocks.
Yeah if you look around at Zastava's models you can get one with a dustcover that has a little pic rail I have one pf those zpaps in 5.56 and holds zero no problems due to how Zastava attaches the dust cover. Also comes with a piece of pic rail on the rear trunnion so you can attach a folding buffer tube assembly or other 1913 stocks/braces such as the Midwest Industries Zenitco style stock. Also comes with a quad rail handguard, but there are MLOK options too. They are Yugo pattern AKs so if you want to swap out the quad rail you'll need a yugo pattern. May or not need a dremel to help get it to seat because AKs are AKs.
I am no AK rifle expert but, I know a couple of three things. I was fortune enough to purchase a Vepr AK-47 after a strong recommendation from Rob Ski at AK4774 operators union. It’s unfortunate that the factory burned down. With that said the only other AK rifle I would purchase would be one that passes the AK4774 Operators Union 5,000 round test. If you want to reduce the recoil, you need to get a KNS Precision adjustable gas piston. The better 7.62x39 ammo with the least standard deviation is the 7.62x39 Federal American Eagle 124gr. FMJ Ammo but your mileage may vary depending on which rifle you have.
Lil known fact when sharps bro’s developed that receiver that was supposed to be a exclusive receiver to rifle dynamics, and I have no problem withsharp’s bro’s, I do have a problem with Century arms though
Century Arms has a very sketchy reputation as far as AK's go. I would be interested as to what kind of steel the receiver is milled from and also what the bolt is made out of. I noticed a huge amount of barrel deflection when you were shooting, more so than any pressed barrel / stamped receiver AK that i have ever witnessed. That deflection is either coming from the front of the milled receiver or it has a spaghetti noodle for a barrel. I am going out on a limb and predict that sales are going to be sparce until someone does a 5K review so everyone can look at the receiver and bolt lugs and it passes a no go gauge unlike their other AK trash.
Kinda looks like my Izhmash AKK104 with the stock/buffer tube and Mlok handguard, biggest difference is that mine has a shorter barrel. That trigger does look nice and is something i still want to change on mine, not because the trigger i have is bad but it can be improved. I do like the look of the TWS dogleg railed topcover a lot better then a sidemounted rail. Their style of charging handle is nice little detail too
Yeah, sorry, even for a non-magnified optic and even for 7.62x39, unless you're shooting offhand that's a pretty horrible group. 7.62x39 is not an inherently inaccurate cartridge at 100 yards, and I'm utterly confident that you're a more than "capable" marksman. I'm no precision shooter by any stretch, I make no Sgt. York claims, but that grouping looks like what I do offhand with a Galil after that third cup of coffee on a windy day. The Galil is about the same pricepoint as these and not only has a proven track record, it's built by a highly reputable military contractor.
It’s milled but from what? A casting? Of what grade of steel? Will it last over 100,000 rounds like the Bulgarian/Chinese AKs? Cuz those receivers are milled from forgings, not milled from castings like this gun
So its Ar in AK furniture? I like the Zastava M70ZPAP with AR furniture. Still full AK stamped but Serbian made. Looks decent would have to take a close look in person.
Look at this guy! Get some hair growing in new places? Just kidding, when I hear Century, I think back to the C39V2 and boy did those come as a mixed bag! Hopeful for another option however still salty from the last one.
Milled AKs do not have barrel trunnions- but I would suspect that they have poor metallurgy on either the bolt or receiver or poor headspace or something- remember the c39v2 was milled as well and they were really bad. The best thing that century does in regards to AKs is they import the stamped WASR Romanian AKs- though they usually put balsa stocks on them that everyone has to change out but at least the WASR are built like tanks and will last even if they are kinda crude and usually have canted sights out of the box.
No big fan of Century, but the one Century Arms product I have is an AK garbage rod going on past 20k rounds. The only two guns I've had detonate in any way was a Springfield Armory M1A and a Fusion 1911.
Yeah, thing is, at their price point I can spend a tiny bit more and get a firearm that's both far superior and with an incredible track record...GALIL.
Want good groups with 7.62x39. Need a deliberate plan and time, like with any platform/caliber. I handload for my SAR-1; cast my own 155 Lee lead bullets and powder coat them--they make a good hoser round for close up practice at an incredibly cheap cost. Also run Berrys plated 123 gr for moderate distance and load Hornady 123 SST for precision. Not precision like a bolt gun or qood quality AR but I can reliably print 2 MOA groups at 100 (5 shot groups) with it with an SD of about 18. Any platform can be tuned ... just need to take it step by step.
Thing is, at least Century Arms is honest about who and what they are, unlike PSA or Springfield Armory. I'd suggest that you do a little more research about Century, I'm not a big fan of them, but if you actually do some real homework (not YT) you'll discover that they do contract with some reputable folks to manufacture products, they are no longer just an assembler or importer.
@@M1911jlnyep, best knowledge is from personal experience. Except a sample subject of one doesn't mean jack, however it behaves, good or bad, it always "validates" whatever stories you hear. Sort of...I've owned Kimbers before and I had to replace so many broken parts on them I've decided ALL 1911s are obsolete garbage. That was a sample size of two, just as an example.
@@JD-tn5lz I know others who have had Century Arms guns. They were all crap. So, I'm sorry, but based on my experience and experience of other people who I know and trust (not just stories heard on the internet), Century Arms is crap.
Yeah, nice that you have plenty of free time to watch YT. Go do some reading. Century has actually partnered up with a few manufacturers in the past to make some very good products. Take the C308 for example, most of their receivers were actually PTR, just as an example. Short of a G3 built by HK, that's as good as you can get. Go learn something. Then comment. Otherwise, just be a bother to your neighbors in the trailer park.
@Barbaroossa hell yeah peasant you tuber who believes everything, go buy ammo and train in real classes, instead of you tube making you think u can shoot, your St8t GAE 💯
Let's see. The AK came out in 1947 or so. The AR was developed in the 1950s and entered service in the 1960s. The FAL was developed in the 1940s and entered service in the 1950s, the G3 almost immediately thereafter. The AR180 system was first developed in the 1960's and eventually fathered the SCAR, the L85, the CZ Bren-series, the Tavor is essentially AK platform in it's guts, etc. What's your point? I'm no AK guy, but what they do at the rudimentary level is Exactly the very same thing that an AR does and the developments that followed it mirror the developments that followed AR.
@@JD-tn5lz the AK handles like a piece of farm equipment. I don't care when it was developed. Stoner obviously knew what ERGONOMICS mean to people and how they interact with objects. It's like trying to play call of duty with a NES controller vs mouse and keyboard.
@@DevonReclaimedoh, really? Have you handled or toted around a basic M16A1 manufactured in the 1970's or a Galil manufactured in the 2020's? It's really more using what you're used to and have trained with. Just like the person who claims that an HK-style pistol paddle mag release is more efficient (they'd be correct) than a push button, you'll find that folks push back on that idea and deny reality simply because that is what they are used to. The issue is more that many AK builders don't move on beyond older ways. For example,, if you build a rifle to proper tolerances there is no reason to use a side mount for optics. Gunmakers respond to the market, as well they should. If customers want old-school features, that's what they're gonna git.
For the price of a high end AR, you too can get an AK with the century arms track record 😂
Yah honestly AKs have lost their luster for anyone except the people bound and determined for some reason to buy/run AKs. IMO, buy a WASR, WBP, Zastava basic AK. Mount a dot, bubba a light on, run it. If you want somethin else, get something else. If you REALLT want something AK-Esque, get a Galil. It’s literally better in every way for not much more than this gun, but from a company with a better track record, after market support, more calibers, etc….
$1600 is a hefty chunk of change for a firearm with the words _Century Arms_ written on the side. For an extra couple hundred dollars you can get an Arsenal Sam Series or even the new Dissent from CMMG. Or save a couple hundred with the Mutant, or even more with a Zastava. You can find those for under a thousand smackaroos now.
What the hell? The Humble Marksman has a rifle?!?!? What's next? Dogs and cats living together?😂
My Dog and Cat live together….not well.
I literally thought it was the wrong channel at first.
wow @ the amount of barrel whip you can see in the slow-motion shots
Barrel whip happens, to some degree, with every rifle.
HOWEVER, this one is horrible. Bad even for AK
changing the muzzle device to a flash hider would lessen the barrel whip
@@seanparker96yep, that fluted barrel isn't helping any either
@JD-tn5lz well now we know you don't know anything about barrels... fluting can actually increase barrel rigidity while reducing weight
@@noclass2gun342wrong again and not even a nice try.
NO, I'd expect that it's you that understands little and has been sold a line. It depends upon machining and materials engineering. Just cutting notches into a poorly manufactured barrel manages to do more harm than good, unless you're so anemic that those three ounces make all the difference for you. No, improper fluting does not make a barrel more rigid, it does make the barrel slightly lighter, and it usually helps heat dissipation...but it almost always helps sells rifles to the lesser-educated.
Damn the fluted barrel with that muzzle device is WHIPPING!
Holy smokes!! The humble marksman actually knows how to shoot rifles!! 🙌👌
I have it, its a great rifle, very soft shooting for an AK. Put a better brake on it and its amazing. I was timing myself on a three shot drill with this AK and and AR which is upgraded also and the times were the same. i was surprised. The recoil is like an AR. You absolutely do not feel it in the shoulder. Its like a Meridian but at half the price.
Century arms gives me pause but I really like their stock solution, one of the main ergonomic issues with the AK is having the stock below the bore
That's because Century had nothing to do with that part of the gun.
@ makes sense. If there’s a way I can modify a zastava or arsenal to be like that I’m definitely not touching this thing
@@S1deshowRob I'm pretty certain theres aftermarket rear stock plates for various zastava receiver types as well as zastava factory options that does the same, both the ZPAP85 and ZPAP92's have variants that come with buffer tube stocks.
Yeah if you look around at Zastava's models you can get one with a dustcover that has a little pic rail I have one pf those zpaps in 5.56 and holds zero no problems due to how Zastava attaches the dust cover. Also comes with a piece of pic rail on the rear trunnion so you can attach a folding buffer tube assembly or other 1913 stocks/braces such as the Midwest Industries Zenitco style stock. Also comes with a quad rail handguard, but there are MLOK options too. They are Yugo pattern AKs so if you want to swap out the quad rail you'll need a yugo pattern. May or not need a dremel to help get it to seat because AKs are AKs.
Dude AK content? Where’s your Adidas track suit??
I am no AK rifle expert but, I know a couple of three things. I was fortune enough to purchase a Vepr AK-47 after a strong recommendation from Rob Ski at AK4774 operators union. It’s unfortunate that the factory burned down. With that said the only other AK rifle I would purchase would be one that passes the AK4774 Operators Union 5,000 round test. If you want to reduce the recoil, you need to get a KNS Precision adjustable gas piston. The better 7.62x39 ammo with the least standard deviation is the 7.62x39 Federal American Eagle 124gr. FMJ Ammo but your mileage may vary depending on which rifle you have.
it's essentially a menagerie of aftermarket parts put together with the price jacked up...guess if you wanted to buy something and be done it's fine
It’s interesting to see the recoil impulse go through the rifle in your slowmo footage
That is a massive amount of barrel whip on that critter. That's not just the slow-mo, that's AK.
Lil known fact when sharps bro’s developed that receiver that was supposed to be a exclusive receiver to rifle dynamics, and I have no problem withsharp’s bro’s, I do have a problem with Century arms though
Wait so the handguard is not stable? It’s shifts? Nice gun but I don’t really like that idea 🥴
Pretty cool. Definitely not going to replace my Galil though.
Not a big AK guy, but if I were to pick one up this would be in the running.
Century Arms has a very sketchy reputation as far as AK's go. I would be interested as to what kind of steel the receiver is milled from and also what the bolt is made out of. I noticed a huge amount of barrel deflection when you were shooting, more so than any pressed barrel / stamped receiver AK that i have ever witnessed. That deflection is either coming from the front of the milled receiver or it has a spaghetti noodle for a barrel. I am going out on a limb and predict that sales are going to be sparce until someone does a 5K review so everyone can look at the receiver and bolt lugs and it passes a no go gauge unlike their other AK trash.
you lost me at century arms...............
Why? Give them a break man, lol.
They’ve been killing it lately 😂😂
@@ghostsofwargow2511 30+yrs of garbage.
@@Oneproblemme101 Killing what? Their customers with their potmetal barrel trunnions in their AKs?
@ you nailed it! In the face 🤣
Kinda looks like my Izhmash AKK104 with the stock/buffer tube and Mlok handguard, biggest difference is that mine has a shorter barrel.
That trigger does look nice and is something i still want to change on mine, not because the trigger i have is bad but it can be improved.
I do like the look of the TWS dogleg railed topcover a lot better then a sidemounted rail.
Their style of charging handle is nice little detail too
If it had a pic rail instead of a buffer tube I would consider.
I feel like this is your calling.
Should go for the Texas Weapon Systems IK instead, same receiver with their stuff
I’d rather get a galil
TheCommunistMarksman 😂
Communist stole the German design!
Sturmgeveren.
Yeah, sorry, even for a non-magnified optic and even for 7.62x39, unless you're shooting offhand that's a pretty horrible group.
7.62x39 is not an inherently inaccurate cartridge at 100 yards, and I'm utterly confident that you're a more than "capable" marksman.
I'm no precision shooter by any stretch, I make no Sgt. York claims, but that grouping looks like what I do offhand with a Galil after that third cup of coffee on a windy day.
The Galil is about the same pricepoint as these and not only has a proven track record, it's built by a highly reputable military contractor.
AR > AK
Yes, AR a little better in controlled conditions. AK for war.
AKs are fun but if I gotta fight in ww3 I'm taking my geissele lol. I've seen WAY too many videos of AKs having issues in Ukraine
It’s milled but from what? A casting? Of what grade of steel? Will it last over 100,000 rounds like the Bulgarian/Chinese AKs? Cuz those receivers are milled from forgings, not milled from castings like this gun
Gettin rifle curious eh? Welcome to the long side.
"well made". didn't show the receiver locking lugs, didn't show where the carrier impacts the receiver, didn't show bolt. just stick to ARs man
So its Ar in AK furniture?
I like the Zastava M70ZPAP with AR furniture.
Still full AK stamped but Serbian made.
Looks decent would have to take a close look in person.
The only name in “American AK47s” that deserves an ounce of interest is PSAs. And that’s only when their QC is on point that particular week.
If they will drop this in 556 I'll be All over it ! I want a milled receiver 556 AK
Zastava
That is definitely the wrong muzzle device for this rifle. If you want a brake, might want one with horizontal ports
Look at this guy! Get some hair growing in new places? Just kidding, when I hear Century, I think back to the C39V2 and boy did those come as a mixed bag! Hopeful for another option however still salty from the last one.
Nice but these days the problem with AK's is politicians and the poor ammo availability they're responsible for.
Who makes the barrel trunnion? Is it Century? Cause if it is, you better skip that one.
Milled AKs do not have barrel trunnions- but I would suspect that they have poor metallurgy on either the bolt or receiver or poor headspace or something- remember the c39v2 was milled as well and they were really bad.
The best thing that century does in regards to AKs is they import the stamped WASR Romanian AKs- though they usually put balsa stocks on them that everyone has to change out but at least the WASR are built like tanks and will last even if they are kinda crude and usually have canted sights out of the box.
Bout time!
I own a couple AKs and would never buy a Century or any poorly built US AK when there are a lot of good imported options.
What did the century ak say to your face? "Kaboom"
No big fan of Century, but the one Century Arms product I have is an AK garbage rod going on past 20k rounds.
The only two guns I've had detonate in any way was a Springfield Armory M1A and a Fusion 1911.
@JD-tn5lz which century ak is it?
Wolverines!
Moving handguard at this price... well.....
Damn this gun looks pretty good
Just get an Arsenal
JUNK
Is Century Arms customer support still shit?
You lost me at Century Arms.
Yeah, thing is, at their price point I can spend a tiny bit more and get a firearm that's both far superior and with an incredible track record...GALIL.
What?? Not a pistol video??
Ak pattern rifle not platform.
Deez nuts or doez nuts
Want good groups with 7.62x39. Need a deliberate plan and time, like with any platform/caliber. I handload for my SAR-1; cast my own 155 Lee lead bullets and powder coat them--they make a good hoser round for close up practice at an incredibly cheap cost. Also run Berrys plated 123 gr for moderate distance and load Hornady 123 SST for precision. Not precision like a bolt gun or qood quality AR but I can reliably print 2 MOA groups at 100 (5 shot groups) with it with an SD of about 18. Any platform can be tuned ... just need to take it step by step.
Probably a new piece of trash from Century Arms
Century Arms? ROFL. Um, no.
yup, they have a long earned reputation.
Thing is, at least Century Arms is honest about who and what they are, unlike PSA or Springfield Armory.
I'd suggest that you do a little more research about Century, I'm not a big fan of them, but if you actually do some real homework (not YT) you'll discover that they do contract with some reputable folks to manufacture products, they are no longer just an assembler or importer.
@@JD-tn5lzI’ve owned a gun from Century Arms. That was enough research for me.
@@M1911jlnyep, best knowledge is from personal experience.
Except a sample subject of one doesn't mean jack, however it behaves, good or bad, it always "validates" whatever stories you hear.
Sort of...I've owned Kimbers before and I had to replace so many broken parts on them I've decided ALL 1911s are obsolete garbage.
That was a sample size of two, just as an example.
@@JD-tn5lz I know others who have had Century Arms guns. They were all crap. So, I'm sorry, but based on my experience and experience of other people who I know and trust (not just stories heard on the internet), Century Arms is crap.
Another gimmick rifle. Pay extra for a bunch of accessories... How about I just buy a standard milled rifle and set it up to suit my own needs?
Anything PSA IR CENTURY IS TRASH 🗑 😪 💯💯💯 GOOD LUCK IN TRUSTING THST WITH YOUR LIFE, ILL SEND YOU SOME ROTTEN ROSES 🌹
Yeah, nice that you have plenty of free time to watch YT.
Go do some reading. Century has actually partnered up with a few manufacturers in the past to make some very good products.
Take the C308 for example, most of their receivers were actually PTR, just as an example. Short of a G3 built by HK, that's as good as you can get.
Go learn something. Then comment. Otherwise, just be a bother to your neighbors in the trailer park.
YUP I DO. ITS CALLED EARLY RETIREMENT AT 55 , WHO SHOOTS ALL DAY
AND NEVER BUYS PSA OR CENTURY GARBAGE 🗑 🤣🤣🤣🤣, TRY IT
@@JD-tn5lz DONT MATTER WHI CENTURY HOOKS UP WITH THEY WILL ALWAYS FIND A WAY TO SHIT ON THEMSELVES DO U LIKE RED OR PINK ROTTEN ROSES🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🇺🇸
@@ricdaz-e3h HELL YAEH SHEEPDAWG
@Barbaroossa hell yeah peasant you tuber who believes everything, go buy ammo and train in real classes, instead of you tube making you think u can shoot, your St8t GAE 💯
Jesus AK's are just so outdated.
Still wouldn’t want to get shot by one tho
@KGBBooks That's not exactly an answer for why I would want to purchase an AK
Let's see.
The AK came out in 1947 or so. The AR was developed in the 1950s and entered service in the 1960s. The FAL was developed in the 1940s and entered service in the 1950s, the G3 almost immediately thereafter. The AR180 system was first developed in the 1960's and eventually fathered the SCAR, the L85, the CZ Bren-series, the Tavor is essentially AK platform in it's guts, etc.
What's your point?
I'm no AK guy, but what they do at the rudimentary level is Exactly the very same thing that an AR does and the developments that followed it mirror the developments that followed AR.
@@JD-tn5lz the AK handles like a piece of farm equipment. I don't care when it was developed. Stoner obviously knew what ERGONOMICS mean to people and how they interact with objects. It's like trying to play call of duty with a NES controller vs mouse and keyboard.
@@DevonReclaimedoh, really? Have you handled or toted around a basic M16A1 manufactured in the 1970's or a Galil manufactured in the 2020's?
It's really more using what you're used to and have trained with. Just like the person who claims that an HK-style pistol paddle mag release is more efficient (they'd be correct) than a push button, you'll find that folks push back on that idea and deny reality simply because that is what they are used to.
The issue is more that many AK builders don't move on beyond older ways.
For example,, if you build a rifle to proper tolerances there is no reason to use a side mount for optics.
Gunmakers respond to the market, as well they should. If customers want old-school features, that's what they're gonna git.