2 Year Ownership Update - Honest Update of 2nd Gen Lexus NX
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- Опубліковано 1 чер 2024
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This video I provide my 2 Year honest update and review of the 2nd generation 2022 Lexus NX450h+ F-Sport 3 and also includes what I have observed during the ownership.
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:32 - Title
00:01:16 - How many KM driven
00:02:07 - EV Range
00:04:17 - Cost of ownership
00:08:55 - Comparing to other NX models
00:12:37 - Break even point
00:19:49 - Tire Treadwear
00:26:44 - Recall issues
00:29:50 - Cablegate
00:31:23 - Rustproof?
00:32:38 - Final Thoughts
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Such a lot of work went into this video. Very useful information. Thank you so much. I'm considering an Rx.
...................Yes Thank you for all your effort. As for the RX as noted by PhilT993....I do not understand as this was on the "NX"
@@donaldbanner2185 Hi Donald, let me explain. I am wanting to move out of my Tesla into possibly a PHEV or Hybrid. I wanted to go to Mercedes, BMW or Audi, but after MUCH research on their reliability problems, still ongoing, I am circling back to Lexus. So, I am starting my research here. I am not keen on the whole eCVT thing, but is early days. Just watched a 40 minute video on it's internal guts and how it works. Pretty amazing actually.
You considering the RX450h+? One reason to get the RX is for more space and a little better quality in the interior materials. I wanted the F Sport to have the adaptive variable suspension and also the F Sport looks. The RX does not offer that with the PHEV.
@@lsft Thanks. I am leaning more towards the RX 500h, but as usual, the more I research, the more I wonder 🙂
@@PhilT993 if you pick the RX hybrids the 500h is the one to get. Definitely more enjoyable to drive.
Thank you for all the calculations you provided, very interesting comparisons. I would also like to know more about 12volt battery life in NX450+ also.
I have a video ua-cam.com/video/ESNqIh-quKM/v-deo.html that talks about the 12V battery and when my 12V battery died
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I have had my 12V replaced under warranty and things seem to be ok, but I'm still looking at when the car charges the 12V during driving or idle, etc... stay tune to that video.
@@lsft Thank you for the links to 2 videos, I watched them and it helps understanding the how 12v battery issues can happen.
@@mmanek3465another video is coming in a few weeks.
Great two year review, LSFT!! With regards to tyres, have you considered going to a 245/50 R20? The stock 235/50 is an uncommon size and therefore are more expensive. I got a screw in an unrepairable part of the Alenza's and decided to replace all four with non RFT. Decided to try the Pirelli Scorpion AS plus 3 in a 245/50. They are quieter and because they're slightly wider, car seems to handle a little better. Tyre is slightly taller so there is a difference in indicated speed and mileage however I haven't been able to accurately measure what that difference is. We have lost about 3 total miles on EV guess o meter that I'm attributing to the newer tires. Love your vids, keep up the good work!
I haven't considered getting wider tires and some autoshops don't allow that to be installed.
The mileage difference is:
Reading -> Actual
20mph -> 20.2 mph
30mph -> 30.3 mph
40 mph -> 40.4 mph
50 mph -> 50.5 mph
60 mph -> 60.6 mph
70 mph -> 70.7 mph
80 mph -> 80.8 mph
90 mph -> 90.9 mph
I'm still thinking of what to get, but will consider when time gets closer.
Hmmm IMO, larger tires there-by changing gearing and speedo...usually not a good Idea....additionally, wider tires add more friction and cut Down Mileage both on Full Elec and hybred. There is a Michelin tire with the OEM specs and I use them and have already commented on the PLUSES IMO!
@@donaldbanner2185 we’re talking like 10mm of difference in overall width. It’s not that much taller or wider than OEM. Even at 100mph it’s like 1 mph off. Hardly a concern. My guess o meter loss of ev range could also be that I’ve been driving with a heavy foot this past week. Glad you like the tires you got.
@@chadcostales Interesting stuff. Can you notice how they look and any issues with clearance to guards when suspension compressed?
@@mikebedford4362 so far no interference noticed at full steering lock or at full compression. The overall tire diameter is .3” (8 mm) more than OEM
Thanks LSFT, fascinating video. I've now done about 14,000km and a lot of it has been country driving. I've had no issues and charging at home has been free as we have solar on the roof of our house.(Australia has lots of sunlight) A few thoughts from me;
1. I can't understand why anyone would want to change from the 'run flat' tires? The suspension is calibrated to them and besides, there's no room for a spare? - LSFT do you rotate yr wheels regularly?
2. EV range for me fluctuates between 65km and 71 km, depending on whether I'm driving on freeways.
3. I have a couple of minor rattles behind the drivers side air vent that only shows up when on a corrugated road so will be interesting if they test it at the first service?
Haven't had any recalls or issues and the phone charges (iPhone 13Pro) trouble free BUT it gets very hot if I'm using CarPlay and Apple Music at the same time.
LSFT - In my opinion 'High Beam' is set too low - How do you find it?
Thanks again for a great channel.
Thanks for the feedback.
To respond to your questions: #1 - the run flats are more expensive and the life of them don't last as long as normal low resistance tires. Depending on your needs, some people would just get non-run flat tires as they are a bit quieter and last longer. Some people aren't lucky and gets a nail in their tire 2-3 weeks after delivery and some would never see a puncture. So people would take the chance.
#2 - It fluctuates because EV range drops when you drive fast. Anything about like 80km/hr would cos the battery usage higher. If you drive on local roads, the range would be much better.
#3 - My iPhone 14 Pro seems to do well with the replacement charger. It doesn't over heat at all for me. Wonder if it's Apple Music as I use Spotify.
#4 - I find the high beams sufficient for me. If not, cars on the opposite end would flash at me more frequently.
Thank you for your continued support!!!
LSFT, BTW does the 450h+ also charge the battery as you drive in EV mode?
It will regen the battery when you step on the brakes or slow down. You mostly lose EV range when you drive in EV than gain back.
@@lsft Ok, thanks thats interesting. I live a few hours away from a capital city and so most driving is freeway and country roads so I've never noticed.
Curious.... Do you like the New " COPPER CREST color better than the CADMIUM ORANGE...Thanks
Cadmium Orange is still my preference.
Thank you! It's a great video. I heard that RX's break is overly sensitive, it will jerk at stop if not slowly reduce the speed. Is it true and how is it in NX model? Can it stop smoothly? Do you think RX worth the extra dollars? I feel like NX has more bang for the buck
Never experienced jerkiness in my 23 RX350h. I’d say it’s worth the extra cost as it’s more quiet and comfortable. The suspension is much softer so you don’t feel the road imperfections as much.
@@albertn.1742 Thank you
@beefbeefbeef4, when I got my NX, I was not use to the the brakes as well. Took a while to master it so that there is no jerking when stopping. The RX has more insulation and it really depends what model you get the RX350 vs NX350, or the RX450h+ or the NX450h+. If you want a larger vehicle or not. I have the AVS FSport NX - so I do have the ability to change the suspension and it could be soft or a bit more firm.
@@lsft Thank you
@@albertn.1742 Hmmmmm? my wife has the 2023 RX 350...did you compare w " the 450h+ "F" Sport because they are hard to find and if you did you might have like me found, My LEXUS NX 450h+ "F" Sport rides considerably softer... in town and freeway....IMO 2 reasons, #1 is the Adaptive Suspension she does not have. #2 the OEM stock Run Flat tires as they clearly ride HARSH as they are a tire within a tire and replaced w/ Michelin's rides softer on freeway and stiffer on corners because ofd the Adaptive Suspension she does not have & as to quiet the softer Michilin's with more Air space (no inner tire are even quieter and if you really wish Quiet USE only electric and no motor... WIN / WIN!.
Does the gas engine kick in automatically when it is cold? If yes, what temperature does the gas engine kick in? Thank you.
The gas engine kicks in about -12°C or 10°F. Or if you need the front defogger when it's cold. I don't have the exact temperature for the defogger.
@@lsft Thank you.
My 350h is just a few months younger and it’s hit 24,000kms. Great video. I really enjoyed seeing all the comparisons cost wise. I think like you said it’s also about the experience. The hybrid and plug in hybrid are just so much smoother. I also think resale value will be higher now that everyone wants a hybrid.
Good point!
i'd be curious to see how the Bridgestone turanza EL450 rides just because of its "450" model number lol (and it's cheaper too). The ride quality of the OEM run flat tires on the NX are unfortunately not that great
haha... it's an expensive experiment.
Honestly, I am having deep concern about HV battery fail because there are couple cases happening in Canada from Hyundai. It’s so expensive for replacement.
well - Toyota has been using HV for many many years. I personally in the family have owned an 2010 RX hybrid and was doing well until we sold it in 2023. I have a 2015 CT and have no issues. I am not that concern with Toyota/Lexus HV batteries. Plus - there is a 10 year warranty on the battery.
@@lsft well. I am wondering to know how to fix the issue with this wireless charging. It's also happening in my NX450H too. Sometimes it will be disconnected
@@jasontam2102 did you get the charger replaced?
@@lsft not yet. What are the instructions for that?
@@jasontam2102
I told them that I tried my phone on a 2024 charger and it was working perfectly.
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We'll likely be trading in our 450h for another one in a year or two. Great vehicle.
Ouch! sounds as if you are Leasing????? clearly a rip off! If not, yes a GREAT choice!
You leasing or is a trade in. If you change cars every few years than lease would make more sense?
Nope we purchase our vehicles. I’ve already been floated a trade in price.
@@jagaro Maybe next time consider the better model 450H+ "F" Sport Adaptive Suspension alone is worth it you will appreciate the Softer ride and stiff cornering upgrade.....Change out the DOG Run Flats....and get a MUCH smoother ride and w/ Michelin's Less rolling resistance get better mileage elec and hybred. I cashed out / Paid off my car No interest / Loan.....If like me you wish to Own....get the 450h+ "F" Sport....as it more rare....will hold demand better / Re-Sale better and for reliability, there is no better.
What is the resale value?
I have a 2022 Lexus NX350 and just wondering if you or anyone has experience with Brake Dust on the car? After you washed the car ,you noticed tiny rust spots on the car. All they are is this little flakes of metal that gets stuck on the outside of your paint, especially on the sides of the car. They're rust orange and they're very noticeable on a white car. It occurs from brake pads, when you break a little metal particles land on the car or a snow prowlers drive-by and scrape their metal ploughs along the floor. Little metal flexes fly off and land on the paint. you have to use Iron X or Iron remover to get it off. The best way is to get Brake Pads that create the least dust. I know the car still new but if anyone used different brake pads, Not OEM brake pads. Please let me know the name of the brake pads. Thank you.
This is common even with the first gen NX or even Lexus vehicles. For my Cadmium Orange NX, it shouldn't show up that easily. You could use a clay bar to remove the orange spots as well. But white is a common Lexus color and yes they show much easily on the paint. I'm still far from needing to replace my pads. The service advisor says that I don't brake enough and it's causing rust.
@@lsft On the 450h+ "F" Sport with hybred the vehicle is lighter than the 350 (less Mass to slow down & regenerative braking...(Auto slow down to help recharge battery.)..so very very little BRAKE dust on my car & I would see it as I have RED Calipers..
The nx 250 is the best model. Most reliable model. I can see it getting 400k moles no issues. Do you think the 450 will get you to 400k miles ?
I've never driven a car to 400k miles and it doesn't need to. That's 640k km. Based on my needs that's 56 years. I'm not sure if I will be driving by then. So at that point does it matter? I'd rather have a car I enjoy. Plus, the savings of gas I'll be able to get another vehicle by then.
I ran the numbers for myself and bought the 250. It would take 9 years to break even with the 350h.
@PabloTheThinker Yup. It depends on your driving needs and what makes sense. But you need to keep in mind that the driving experience is also different for the different models. As long as it works for you, it's the right NX.
If you are only buying on price a Lexus probably isn't the best choice for you.
@@PabloTheThinker I agree . I also bought 250 model . In terms of reliability the 250 will last the longest . You don't have to worry about the battery in the hybrids going bad . I can see the 250 easily getting high mileage with no problems.
........ Hmmmmmm? I have had my 450h+ "F" Sport for about a month longer than you. I now have 11232 miles on it. I have changed the oil twice (I use Penzoil Platinum Plus 0-20 (recommended by the best " Project Farm" Reviewer of oils..... and OEM Oil filter, 1X 48.00 per 5 Gal Oil at amazon & 15.00 for OEM oil filter & 55.00 to have Dealership R&R...& rotate Michelin tires= $118.00 for two years......Note: I get 49miles per 120 Volt charge as I drive 57 miles per hour (the plug-in electric will significantly change as you go over this speed...believe me.......I installed Michelin tires on my car at the dealership when I got the car because....Michelin's ride considerably Softer (unlike Dog Run Flat / tire within tire) additionally the Michelin's have much less rolling resistance. I truly like the quiet in the cabin and electric ONLY is VERY quiet. I ONLY run the ICE to circulate fluids for 2 miles per month = Advantage, my ICE is Practically Brand New ( virtually no blow- by under hood / engine is spotless as I never drive in snow or rain / Garage Queen) IF? I ever need a back-up. Have kept up w/all software/dealer recalls etc. Not only is the 450h+ F Sport much much nicer than the NX 250
but at this rate I will break even in the near future and have had all the advantages of the 450h+ "F" Sport i.e. Adaptive Suspension etc. Only spent $118 on Maintenance & done this in style with the much nicer looking model 450h+ "F" Sport IMO!....................................My biggest expense has been the total make over of ALL Carbon Fiber interior and exterior anywhere there was Piano Black, Red Calipers REAR and Side Spoilers!........As one You Tuber puts it Life's to short to drive boring cars!
Thanks for the update Donald. You do have an unique NX and from your comments - I know you are proud of your customizations. I've done 2 oil changes as well, but according to a lot of people, they suggest changing it every 6 months and not 12. Consider it since you will be keeping your NX for a long time.
@@lsft Thank you for the suggestion....to be considered! Not sure about 6MO. interval as I do not use the Ice except to keep fluids fresh...So, IMO...any gas that normally slips past rings to contaminate Oil is minimal......additionally, as for excessive condensation/ hot old engine temp, that does degrade Oil,) I reside in a somewhat temperate climate....Never below freezing nor above 101 in the summer even then 99% of time in shade or garage ....so via my research changing Oil Might not be applicable every 6 months.....However, in your case I do understand & Oil is cheap....i had mentioned a Place called Project Farm...This guy is incredible in testing X of most anything....He did extensive study (you will be Highly impressed) on Motor Oil and Amsoil is best However stupidly costly....HOWEVER,...Pen-soil Platinum Plus and 50.00 for 5 qts on amazon.......... was Second!!! far and above OEM toyota etc. ......if you have a moment please google Project Farm....Automobile Oil. Thank you for your kind comments on my car Jus' like being different + or -. Your channel is Highly technical & Well detailed/ thought out on be half of me THANKS.....You too have a unique vehicle as the 450h+ F Sport is relatively rare, and covers all bases be it elec plug-in or hybred..IMO after extensive research most probably the Finest Suv ever produced, bar non..gotta luv it, indeed mine is the only one in my city & many places....sure there are a bunch of NX's however 450h+ "F" Sport kinda rare....thanks for sharing. Donald
@@donaldbanner2185 I'll google it when I have time. Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the great info - Did you paint your callipers yourself? I want a set of MDP calliper covers as I've had them before but they need someone to stop into their SanDiego facility to get measured as they can't get a car to measure at a dealer.
@@mikebedford4362 Painted & Well Worth it....gives my Atomic Silver w/ Gloss Black some " POP! " Life is too short to drive a boring car!