Microsoft’s MacBook Killer?

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  • @just_mdd4
    @just_mdd4 4 місяці тому +1583

    MKPHD in the booth 🗣🔥🔥🔥

    • @TheGreatestJuJu
      @TheGreatestJuJu 4 місяці тому +35

      Yup, I’m 20min in and he’s barely spoke 5 words. Lol

    • @just_mdd4
      @just_mdd4 4 місяці тому +47

      @@TheGreatestJuJu It is said that when facts speak, a wise man listens 🧐

    • @mrchuckles1022
      @mrchuckles1022 4 місяці тому +35

      That’s Doctor MKPHD.

    • @LazyEngineerYT
      @LazyEngineerYT 4 місяці тому +4

      Happy for MK, but he did Phd in exactly what ? Can someone please point out, I am not active on other social media.

    • @brachiator1
      @brachiator1 4 місяці тому +21

      ​@LazyEngineerYT In May 2024, Brownlee gave a commencement speech at his alma mater, Stevens Institute of Technology. He also received an honorary Doctorate. The speech is around 7 minutes and can be found on UA-cam and elsewhere. It is pretty good, and was his first commencement address.

  • @adunaio
    @adunaio 4 місяці тому +593

    If my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike is a peak reference 😭

    • @saskatiZ
      @saskatiZ 4 місяці тому +15

      When I heard it I had to immediately go to the comments hahaha so funny

    • @S3verance
      @S3verance 4 місяці тому +3

      This is amazing 😭😭😭😭

    • @sumitsaee
      @sumitsaee 4 місяці тому

      can you give me a timestamp for it?

    • @coryc4176
      @coryc4176 4 місяці тому +4

      @@sumitsaee32:31

    • @adrianramos4721
      @adrianramos4721 4 місяці тому +17

      It’s an ancient saying in spanish and other roman languages, like italian, and you actually hear it ALL the time in the spanish speaking world, it sounds so weird in English

  • @Zack-dw5op
    @Zack-dw5op 4 місяці тому +365

    "misinformation king here" needs to go on the soundboard

    • @rockberrychick
      @rockberrychick 4 місяці тому +2

      Yes!!!!

    • @Ashutosh-ahhkgdo
      @Ashutosh-ahhkgdo 4 місяці тому +2

      Well he was just hallucinating like an AI

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 3 місяці тому

      Repeating the Surface Laptop actively cooled benchmarks against the passively cooled base M3 Air with fewer cores and efficiency cores...
      ... it's not better. It's just in the same ballpark now (because they used insider knowledge from ex-Apple employees to release an ARM SoC). Where they "win" is on price.

    • @PacKstronaut
      @PacKstronaut 3 місяці тому

      Wait can I get a time stamp?

    • @Zack-dw5op
      @Zack-dw5op 3 місяці тому

      @@PacKstronaut sorry man I'm not rewatching an entire hour video from 2 weeks ago just so you don't have to. Iirc it was when Ellis was talking about some specs and kept misreading or something, but I could be misremembering

  • @djknight00
    @djknight00 4 місяці тому +580

    Can't wait till my boss can ask my laptop how productive i was.

    • @divieee
      @divieee 4 місяці тому +42

      We'd probably have lost our jobs already at that point...

    • @juanfelipeamayaramirez3455
      @juanfelipeamayaramirez3455 4 місяці тому +4

      ​@@divieee facts

    • @TamasKiss-yk4st
      @TamasKiss-yk4st 4 місяці тому +4

      The lot of screenshot will kill the SSD fast, and destroy the evidence.

    • @brachiator1
      @brachiator1 4 місяці тому +30

      If my boss asked my laptop about my productivity, I would hope that the AI would hallucinate in my favor.

    • @secretvoiceunlocked
      @secretvoiceunlocked 4 місяці тому +1

      I usually come in by the side door that way Lundberg can't see me then I just zone out but it looks like I'm working ""

  • @mattgois
    @mattgois 4 місяці тому +98

    56:03 Them realizing the MacBook square corners on the bottom is such a “now you’re breathing manually” moment. 🤣

  • @mommyofceos
    @mommyofceos 4 місяці тому +251

    At this point, we're going to need a special Wednesday episode of Marques and Andrew reacting to HER lol please and thank you ❤

  • @stackcycler
    @stackcycler 4 місяці тому +46

    Every major LLM has already been trained on Reddit posts. It was the primary reason Reddit closed their API, they wanted to prevent the AI companies from scraping their data. The difference is now they have an official agreement with OpenAI.

    • @MrVoonix
      @MrVoonix 4 місяці тому +2

      yeah :D same with stackoverflow and many news paper sites

    • @thanesonb
      @thanesonb 4 місяці тому

      Makes sense. Seen Google search referencing a troll post from Reddit using its AI overview feature recently.

  • @larryjoe2112
    @larryjoe2112 4 місяці тому +89

    "fucksmith pizza glue" just missed the window for the episode...

    • @SomeMadAussie
      @SomeMadAussie 4 місяці тому +10

      as soon as they started talking about GPTs training on Reddit, I thought of that Verge article.

  • @TorinW
    @TorinW 4 місяці тому +83

    Hanlon's razor:
    "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
    Also I'm glad all y'all are fans of Her, it's also one of my favorite movies

    • @alan_7390
      @alan_7390 4 місяці тому

      Yeah i'm also a fan of Scarlett Johansson

    • @raphaelboll6096
      @raphaelboll6096 4 місяці тому

      I was thinking the same thing, they really butchered the quote haha

    • @darknewt9959
      @darknewt9959 3 місяці тому +1

      Hanlon got it ass backward.

    • @soberanisfam1323
      @soberanisfam1323 16 днів тому

      That excuses ppl who do things with malicious intent. Hanlon has been exposed

  • @snibbubzik3566
    @snibbubzik3566 4 місяці тому +38

    Dude, I thought the AI dating Smosh skit was made up. I didn't realize bumble was actually doing it 💀

    • @The92Waffles
      @The92Waffles 3 місяці тому +1

      I've vaguely heard about it. As if online dating wasn't soulless enough they go and add AI filtering or whatever? Humanity needs a reboot

  • @Zack-dw5op
    @Zack-dw5op 4 місяці тому +109

    How do boats work

  • @artt-
    @artt- 4 місяці тому +35

    55:34 : Such an unexpected comment/analogy from Marques on that 150gb storage. Absolutely hilarious! 😂😂😂

  • @henkrpe3249
    @henkrpe3249 4 місяці тому +44

    "big tech for some reason has an obsession with recreating things in movies that are extremely dystopian"
    Oh David, honey, you were thiiiiiis close to getting it...

  • @Sant1ag0.
    @Sant1ag0. 4 місяці тому +72

    Fun fact about New Jersey: There are a large number of inventions originating from New Jersey. Such as the light bulb, the FM radio, and the motion picture camera

  • @shalomzharnest2205
    @shalomzharnest2205 4 місяці тому +26

    David is mistaken, before the Surface Pro X there were 3 Windows on Arm PCs that ran on a Snapdragon 835. There was the Asus NovaGo, Hp Envy 2x, and the Lenovo Miix 630. Aside from Surface RT dreams... the Pro X was not the first time they tried and OEMs tried also (Nokia made an RT tablet) it always just sucked.

    • @egyptrocks265
      @egyptrocks265 4 місяці тому +2

      Was looking for this comment, I personally had a lumia 2520 thay I used for uni with word and a webbroswer and there was some community made methods of emulating x86 apps but it was only for light weight apps and it worked quiet well for that bit that was it

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 4 місяці тому

      I'm gonna avid arm on windows until I can't anymore...

    • @MrDtoU1
      @MrDtoU1 3 місяці тому +1

      Like I said these uninformed jocks are trying to inform their audience. Hilarius. They should use copilot to be informed first.

  • @snibbubzik3566
    @snibbubzik3566 4 місяці тому +71

    My Wawa order: tropical fruit smoothie, egg white omelet hoagie, paper towel roll

  • @mukesh4169
    @mukesh4169 4 місяці тому +29

    It’s not that just the voice sounds like Scarlet, it’s the personality. It behaves just like Samantha from the movie. The laughs, sarcasm, and voice inflections are just like the movie.

    • @carlkligerman1981
      @carlkligerman1981 4 місяці тому +5

      Agree. I actually think the voice actor did a great job, it’s a shame Sam didn’t think this through properly, it was by far the most appealing voice for the product.

  • @hippocheese14
    @hippocheese14 4 місяці тому +6

    1:10:58 I work as a test technician for CT scanners. We use an RTX 2080 Ti for reconstructing x-ray slices (between 36 and 1000) into a 3D model. There is a massive processing time difference between a 2080 Ti and a 1080 Ti
    it’s possible that Teslas might be using a baller GPU in tandem with their reliance on solely cameras.

  • @zunairyusuf4062
    @zunairyusuf4062 3 місяці тому +3

    Fun fact about New Jersey: missing exit on the NJ turnpike adds 25 minutes to your ETA.

  • @jangamnaveen154
    @jangamnaveen154 4 місяці тому +73

    Ellis's laugh iis the most accurate representation of J Jhonna Jameson's laugh
    IYKYK😂

  • @onlysublime
    @onlysublime 4 місяці тому +10

    That's because with earlier attempts at ARM PCs there were no options. Everything was phone processors. In fact the surface pro x had a modified Qualcomm 855 processor with added PC necessities like extra PCIe lanes. It wasn't until Qualcomm acquired Nuvia and the key leaders and chip designers behind the M processors that they had a serious chip for PCs.

  • @PythonPlusPlus
    @PythonPlusPlus 4 місяці тому +12

    I wouldn’t have a problem with recall if it were opt-in. Having it be opt-out is a massive security risk.
    Imagine forgetting to opt-out of a certain website or app with sensitive data, and now you have loads of images of that data stored on your computer. Even if it is encrypted the private key will still have to be kept locally, which means malware will be able to access it. It’s just another attack vector for hackers.
    Also public computers will likely have this enabled by default, which means that everything you do will be recorded, and anyone that knows about the feature can access a log of everything you did.

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 4 місяці тому +1

      this havr to be a rim by law at some point! like come on.... public computers like that it's death sent

  • @robbiekaminski5215
    @robbiekaminski5215 4 місяці тому +18

    Marques: "What's Twitter?" 🤣

  • @strawhatsmanager
    @strawhatsmanager 4 місяці тому +11

    the segways are amazing don’t stop !!!

    • @cmmartti
      @cmmartti 4 місяці тому +3

      segue. A Segway is a personal mobility scooter.

    • @veryboringname.
      @veryboringname. 4 місяці тому

      @@cmmartti well to be fair, Segways were amazing too. At least technology-wise.

  • @MichaelLaFrance1
    @MichaelLaFrance1 4 місяці тому +22

    Regarding browsers - I use Firefox on my Mac and iPhone for a multitude of reasons. It's just better and offers more privacy. There are better browsers for more privacy, but I think Firefox best balances a solid feature set with privacy.

    • @Arch-Propagandist-Sage
      @Arch-Propagandist-Sage 4 місяці тому +3

      I use it solely for extensions

    • @Goose____
      @Goose____ 4 місяці тому +11

      "I use firefox because the i like the fox in the icon"

    • @BBTechBreakdown
      @BBTechBreakdown 4 місяці тому +2

      yea it'd be nice if all the "alternate" browsers weren't restricted to Webkit, otherwise there'd be even more incentive to use them

    • @ChipsCST
      @ChipsCST 4 місяці тому

      Still waiting for a couple of more features to hit Firefox before I main it. Told myself Years ago that I wanted FF to be my default everywhere.
      But then I was forced to use Edge for a couple of years and now I cannot NOT have some features that it has on FF.

  • @Alex-md5zd
    @Alex-md5zd 4 місяці тому +13

    For context, all 7 harry potter books make up 1.6 million tokens ~1 million words.

  • @nexusyang4832
    @nexusyang4832 4 місяці тому +6

    15:08 brings to mind MKBHD’s old video when they uploaded a video to UA-cam and redownload that video and reupload again 200 times to see the compression artifact go crazy bad… 😅

  • @Jus.freekhz
    @Jus.freekhz 4 місяці тому +9

    There are actually multiple mountains and ranges in Hawaii FYI. Not to say that Ellis was right, but we got cool hikes and mountain ranges out here dudes!

  • @quantumforce4791
    @quantumforce4791 4 місяці тому +12

    the whole point of circle to search is that its device wide and you can do it in any app, so this is just a new version of lens that uses ai

    • @fantasytky28
      @fantasytky28 4 місяці тому +4

      “the whole point of circle to search is that its device wide and you can do it in any app” google assistant have been able to do so before circle to search

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 4 місяці тому +1

      @@fantasytky28when could I circle exactly what I was talking about with google assistant?

    • @fantasytky28
      @fantasytky28 4 місяці тому

      @@toptiertech7291 I was talking about "device wide"

  • @YousefAlNafjan
    @YousefAlNafjan 3 місяці тому +2

    My only fun fact about New Jersey is that I went there during my honeymoon for an NYC helicopter tour and I met Dr. Marques Brownlee himself at the parking lot. He was very nice.

  • @leakyabstraction
    @leakyabstraction 4 місяці тому +4

    49:20 Funny thing is that Robo & Kala's Windows tablet had the Bluetooth keyboard feature already. Btw, another great use of BT keyboard is to put the tablet on a stand (there are plenty of high quality portable stands), closer to eye level, and use it with the wireless keyboard. It's much more ergonomic that way, in fact more ergonomic than a laptop.

    • @godboat.
      @godboat. 4 місяці тому +1

      yes that's how i use my sp8 w a mag safe ring on it and a small tripod w a magsafe adapter

  • @SuprBestFriends
    @SuprBestFriends 4 місяці тому +10

    Recall feature will be a security vector I bet.

    • @TamasKiss-yk4st
      @TamasKiss-yk4st 4 місяці тому

      The dead SSD will not reveal too much data, you don't need to be nervous.. it will kill your SSD faster..

    • @stayfrost04
      @stayfrost04 4 місяці тому +1

      Guaranteed! Microsoft knows it too so they would've paid extra attention to it, but again, doesn't mean no will ever find a vulnerability in there even if its going to be more difficult due to extra attention on it.

  • @DorinB26
    @DorinB26 4 місяці тому +7

    The Surface Laptops do NOT have an OLED screen, it's just the Surface Pro. Seems like we have 2 "misinformation kings here" :D

  • @ixelism
    @ixelism 4 місяці тому +5

    About that recall thing. If I'm doing research, or studying. I think it would be a cool thing to have as a "recall session" rather than something that's defaulted in the system...

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 4 місяці тому

      lol I don't think Microsoft cares... I don't wanna be rude but they only care of they are getting away with your data. it's sad, I still need windows. we gotta fight back, by saying no, and make them lose a lot of money

  • @triyansh
    @triyansh 4 місяці тому +21

    Been refreshing my feed for this! 🙌🏻

  • @AryarajSingh-yo1hx
    @AryarajSingh-yo1hx 4 місяці тому +1

    Not a very well informed podcast. First, the surface pro and laptop both have options for 32 gb of ram. Black Laptop has the higher ram config available. Second, unified memory is also a feature of X Elite.

  • @barry99705
    @barry99705 4 місяці тому +5

    As someone who grew up in Alaska, I've heard the map thing all too many times. Also, "what currency do you use there", and "what language do people speak there".

    • @svenr101
      @svenr101 4 місяці тому

      Same, I live in southeast with all the cruise ships, and some people ask what elevation they’re at as soon as they step off a boat 🤦‍♂️

    • @crazyleo-ca
      @crazyleo-ca 3 місяці тому

      😂😂😂 I find it fascinating how Americans in general know nothing about geography, even about their own country

  • @harbirsingh7266
    @harbirsingh7266 3 місяці тому +2

    Here's some more context on the things David mentioned about LLMs:
    2 million tokens is not a small novel. You can feed the entire Harry Potter series with room to spare.
    Researchers are working on using synthetic data to train LLMs, but that synthetic data is not just another LLM's output. There are tons of incredibly smart ways researchers have come up with that is not simple enough to be discussed on a tech podcast lol. Those guys are smarter than all of us to know better. Don't underestimate them.

  • @heyfrancis3332
    @heyfrancis3332 4 місяці тому +6

    Congrats Marques!!!!🎉🎉🎉 Interesting week!...... been awaiting the pod👊🏽

  • @nhafenbrack
    @nhafenbrack 4 місяці тому +1

    The rounded corners are great but not a new feature to the Surface laptop lineup. The surface Laptop Studio screen has always had the rounded corners top and bottom.

  • @pherreyra
    @pherreyra 4 місяці тому +14

    Hoping you'll talk about Coffeezilla's videos on R1 next week!

    • @officialwestcoastsingh
      @officialwestcoastsingh 4 місяці тому

      Have they ever talked about Coffeezilla in a previous podcast?

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 4 місяці тому

      let me guess lol R1 it's a scam. I hope he puts that jess behind bars

  • @justoncheney7172
    @justoncheney7172 4 місяці тому +2

    Windows 8 RT was on ARM right? So even older.

  • @thelegend-e7919
    @thelegend-e7919 4 місяці тому +4

    39:54 The surface pro X was not the first attempt by Microsoft to run Windows on arm, it's not even the first surface to do it. They actually tried it in 2012 (!) with Windows RT (a version of Windows 8.1).
    I know this because my brother and father each bought one not knowing how limited the OS was and absolutely hated it.
    My brother now has a Intel surface pro and absolutely loves it. I'm not touching this attempt at Arm until maybe a year or so down the line when others have really tested it.

    • @cyjanek7818
      @cyjanek7818 4 місяці тому +1

      Also there was sq2 but I don't even know if there were significant changes or just clock speed so it's less important

  • @scottnash70
    @scottnash70 4 місяці тому +2

    The new ARM laptops are likely to create a split between laptops, which need power efficiency, and x86 gaming PCs, which need power. It's going to be interesting to see how that plays out.

  • @senna476
    @senna476 4 місяці тому +3

    Now the question is, which one: Surface Laptop 6, Galaxy Book 4 Edge, or Dell XPS 13?

    • @antiquehealbot6543
      @antiquehealbot6543 4 місяці тому

      Galaxy Edge gives you a free TV for pre-order so maybe a Galaxy? I wanted to buy a Surface tablet but soon found out that the keyboard was 349...

    • @joshking4679
      @joshking4679 4 місяці тому

      I just saw a news article about the Dell XPS 13 using tandem OLED which got me really interested.

    • @senna476
      @senna476 4 місяці тому

      @@joshking4679 Yeah but that wil take a hit on the battery life.

  • @AmanMittal
    @AmanMittal 4 місяці тому +1

    Many of your reasons seem hollow, team.
    1) Apple put out M4, not because they wanted to put it out before the release of Snapdragon X Elite PCs, but rather because it needed to run the tandem OLED displays and so many other tech improvements, one of them moving to ARMv9 architecture which gives better efficiency for the same clock speed.
    2) Qualcomm couldn't ship these chips, as they themselves got this tech after acquiring NUVIA, which was founded by 3 Apple Ex-employees. This is the main reason why they got all this confidence to compete against Apple...
    Awaiting your comments.
    Thanks.

  • @garrettord
    @garrettord 4 місяці тому +7

    Rainy day, at my internship, working on engineering, listening to the pod, amazing combination 🔥

    • @musicjewell9329
      @musicjewell9329 4 місяці тому

      Loving the dream! Have a great weekend

  • @Greg-TC
    @Greg-TC 4 місяці тому +1

    Maybe I just missed it, but an explanation of the whole "windows on arm" thing would've been useful. I had to google it and I'm still not sure why this is different from their other stuff

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 3 місяці тому

      ARM and X86 devices have fundamentally different chips, they are physically different. In order to run MS Windows on ARM, it basically had to be re-written to work, and every program you run on Windows ARM will have to either be modified or go through a "conversion" of types to run.
      Think of it like diesel vs gas/petrol cars. From the outside they're both internal combustion engines, but they're fundamentally different in how they work.
      While Apple has already moved their range of macbooks etc over to ARM with the M series SoC's, and has conversion at a hardware level, MS Windows has less control over the hardware it is installed onto. MS Windows must also support X86 Intel products etc. It's another huge layer of complexity and goes against the KISS principle in engineering design.

  • @ThelordOmega-kw6mg
    @ThelordOmega-kw6mg 4 місяці тому +30

    Yup its officially a Friday

  • @MarcoBayod_MB
    @MarcoBayod_MB 3 місяці тому +1

    People keep missing the point with HER, the movie is about a guy that wrote special letters for people to express love for someone else, but he never wrote his own letter when his marriage fall apart, is not about human connection, is about closure during the SINGULARITY, IA instead of wanting to rule over humans, they decide is better to just leave

  • @smotch7533
    @smotch7533 4 місяці тому +11

    So you guys are not going to tell marques he has something on his face the whole time?
    Great friends lol

    • @Jigg479
      @Jigg479 3 місяці тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing.

  • @earldegrey
    @earldegrey 4 місяці тому +2

    I swear “I don’t use an iPhone” is now part of Andréw’s personality. ‘cause he says it every single episode. 🙄🙄🙄

  • @vinny1-08
    @vinny1-08 4 місяці тому +4

    am i the only one still crazy about those hp envy laptops

  • @shalomzharnest2205
    @shalomzharnest2205 4 місяці тому +2

    Recall just seems like a boosted version of the Timeline feature which I'm shocked no one has mentioned

  • @robertsheltonjr
    @robertsheltonjr 4 місяці тому +10

    OMG! You guys have access to the whole internet and got SO MUCH wrong about the Surface devices. I mean, WTH! This is supposed to be a tech channel!

  • @chargedelementscr
    @chargedelementscr 2 місяці тому

    where did all the cuts come from all of the sudden? 👀

  • @tomk8711
    @tomk8711 4 місяці тому +4

    ALSO that dude was babbling garbage, MS Surface PC is able to run 32 GBs , since I already ordered mine as MS affiliate... what an L

  • @AmonMshindi
    @AmonMshindi 4 місяці тому +1

    9:32 You meant Hanlon's Razor, "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity".

  • @IanZainea1990
    @IanZainea1990 4 місяці тому +4

    19:28 id rather just no segue. Just tap your papers on the desk. Turn to another camera. Take a drink of whiskey. Change facial expression dramatically. And start with "And now in other news..."

  • @BreakawayB
    @BreakawayB 4 місяці тому +2

    I’ll take a spicy chicken sandwich from Wawa thank youuu

  • @Mobik_
    @Mobik_ 4 місяці тому +31

    I REALLY want devices without AI... I REALLY HATE AI.

    • @seantnichols
      @seantnichols 4 місяці тому +7

      I’m with you. If people don’t use it then companies will stop investing. I’m also really tired of ML being called AI.

    • @musicjewell9329
      @musicjewell9329 4 місяці тому +2

      Ya i been avoiding yt videos with thumbnails of Ai..

    • @Necessarius
      @Necessarius 4 місяці тому +4

      Your sentiment is acknowledged. While not everyone may embrace AI, its capabilities continue to evolve, offering solutions to various challenges and enriching human experiences through innovation and collaboration.

    • @toptiertech7291
      @toptiertech7291 4 місяці тому +1

      What do you hate about AI? I’d love to know. Because “AI” is just machine learning. The same thing that has been in devices for over a decade now

    • @carlkligerman1981
      @carlkligerman1981 4 місяці тому +1

      I’m proud to call myself a neo-Luddite. That being said I don’t think these agents are intelligent, at all. I’m okay with chat bot/assistants for productivity applications, but think generative “AI” needs to be outlawed, full stop. Human creativity is vital for us culturally, socially, spiritually and, well, existentially. Technology is supposed to be used to reduce drudgery in our lives, or AUGMENT our creativity, not become these leviathan plagiarists with the implicit goal of putting creative professionals (of all sorts, I put even, say, taxation accountants and actuaries beneath this rubric) out of work.

  • @kaitiracedric2381
    @kaitiracedric2381 4 місяці тому +2

    Yo waveform. Just wondering why this comes out way later on youtube than it does on spotify

  • @thesaralkumar
    @thesaralkumar 4 місяці тому +3

    29:51 arc search babyyy

  • @Lucssants
    @Lucssants 4 місяці тому +1

    The component between the ink suplly pump and the ceramic crystal is called new jersey

  • @SoCalGuitarist
    @SoCalGuitarist 4 місяці тому +4

    OpenAI provided all the voice training info on Sky to WaPo - it's not ScarJo's voice FYI - OpenAI has flubbed the optics on this whole thing like crazy, but end of day, they're safe, legally (a 1 word tweet is not enough evidence for anything concrete beyond referencing a movie which also has a talking assistant). Also, the Sky voice was released last year, prior to Sam reaching out to scarjo. Horribly dumb optics (did they not pay attention to the hollywood strike last year?) but I really don't see how OpenAI ends up getting in legal trouble here. that said, its been absolute 🍿 watching how far people have twisted this story on social media.

  • @tomi832
    @tomi832 4 місяці тому

    a little correction about the video games in Tesla - Tesla for years added different games (usually light ones like Solitaire and Soduku, but also "heavier" ones like Cup head) and then they added steam support for their high-end tiers.
    You've seen many people play specifically cup-head in their Tesla's since it's a free game that comes with all of their vehicles

  • @Morya58
    @Morya58 4 місяці тому +2

    It would be cool to hear about the iOS issue

  • @robertsheltonjr
    @robertsheltonjr 4 місяці тому +8

    Listening to them describe the Microsoft/Qualcomm tech is just painful! This is supposed to be a tech channel, but I am starting to wonder if you guys know anything beyond phones and Apple products. Like wow, it is super-obvious that you guys don't understand much beyond Apple tech. Microsoft's "Neural Engine?" Because he screwed up describing NPU's? BTW, it Trillian's of Operations (TOPs) and not "FLOPS" which is a different computer calculation. I get that you focused on consumer tech, but geesh, I would hate for consumers to hear this, because they'd be as confused as the "Experts" at MKBHD. Come on guys, be better than this!

  • @moonchief952
    @moonchief952 4 місяці тому +1

    With recall, I think storage is the concern, since it is stored locally

  • @madjohnshaft
    @madjohnshaft 4 місяці тому +9

    The sky voice has been around for a while. It's not new. I don't think it sounds anything like Scarlett Johansson at all. It does sound a little bit like the way the character in the Her movie talked, but that wasn't particularly unique to that movie.

    • @gaggix7095
      @gaggix7095 4 місяці тому

      Yeah it doesn't take much time to know that Sky voice has been available for more than 8 months now, Scarlett Johansson's open letter is purposely misleading so that her lawyers can put more pressure on OpenAI to settle it financially out of court by influencing the public opinion.

    • @sparkserian
      @sparkserian 4 місяці тому +1

      I thought I was the only one. Sky doesn't sound like scarlett to me.

    • @gaggix7095
      @gaggix7095 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah it doesn't take much time to know that Sky voice has been available for more than 8 months now, Scarlett Johansson's open letter is purposely misleading so that her lawyers can put more pressure on OpenAI to settle with her financially out of court.

    • @gaggix7095
      @gaggix7095 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah, it doesn't take much time to know that Sky voice has been available for more than 8 months now, Scarlett Johansson's open letter is deliberately misleading so that her lawyers can put more pressure on OpenAI to settle with her out of court.

    • @gaggix7095
      @gaggix7095 4 місяці тому

      Yes, it doesn't take much time to know that Sky Voice has been available for more than 8 months now. Scarlett Johansson's open letter is deliberately misleading so that her lawyers can put more pressure on OpenAI to settle with her out of court.

  • @CraigEstep
    @CraigEstep 4 місяці тому

    Thank you for introducing me to the “If my grandmother had wheels, she’d be a bicycle” video. 😂

  • @BBTechBreakdown
    @BBTechBreakdown 4 місяці тому +5

    I've seen articles revealing that the internal comms of openAI reveal the voice actress for "Sky" was hired prior to any contact with Johansson. Would this change y'alls view on the openAI / Scarlett Johansson debacle at all?

    • @corvacopia
      @corvacopia 4 місяці тому

      What? Why did they approach Johansson if they already hired someone?

    • @BBTechBreakdown
      @BBTechBreakdown 4 місяці тому

      @@corvacopia My assumption is that they wanted a well known person like Johansson to be the face of the voice to "bridge the gap between tech companies and creatives and consumers to feel comfortable with the seismic shift concerning humans and AI" (that's a quote from her response about why Sam wanted her and her background). So he liked her voice for it and her being well known to consumers seemed to be a plus (rather than an anonymous woman as it is now)

    • @Dave-cg9li
      @Dave-cg9li 4 місяці тому +1

      I said it in another comment, but the voice actor apparently spoke out to say that this is her normal voice. Sure, they may have selected her specifically on purpose, but as long as they don't imply it's Johansson, there's nothing she can do. Sounding similar to a celebrity isn't a crime. Obviously she has the right to be annoyed, but nothing more than that 😅
      Btw it would be really funny if Google hires Scarlet Johansson as a big middle finger to OpenAI 😂

    • @BBTechBreakdown
      @BBTechBreakdown 4 місяці тому

      @@Dave-cg9li yea I feel like everyone jumped on the "openAI ripped of Scarlett Johansson's voice" train too quickly
      Lol, I doubt she'd be interested, but I could see "her" being the new voice for Gemini

    • @ChristopherWentling
      @ChristopherWentling 4 місяці тому

      Doesn't matter. It is perfectly legal to imitate a person's voice and it can not be copywrited.

  • @ananthprem8804
    @ananthprem8804 4 місяці тому +2

    Frigging funny episode 😂😂. Haven’t laughed out loud these many times in a podcast episode since ages ago.

  • @artyss98gmpxcz76
    @artyss98gmpxcz76 4 місяці тому +6

    What's up, people of the internet

  • @arafatrahmanshihab5268
    @arafatrahmanshihab5268 3 місяці тому +1

    I wonder,
    What the hear from the headphones?

  • @groovejunky2549
    @groovejunky2549 4 місяці тому +5

    Hot take: the voice of Sky is based on a fictional character in the movie “Her” which happens to be played by Scarlett Johansson.
    Johansson should not be able to prevent someone else from creating a parody based off of that fictional character based on the fact that it is flirty and takes form as a similar technology to the one in the film.
    While the inflections are similar in many cases, the voice is clearly voiced by a different actor. Any expert could tell you the same.

    • @dougpression
      @dougpression 4 місяці тому +2

      its insane these guys dont mention the precedent this sets.. it barely sounds like scar jo.. half the guys havent even heard the voice? im done watching these clowns

    • @groovejunky2549
      @groovejunky2549 4 місяці тому +1

      @@dougpression They were off this episode, but they clearly haven't thought about this deeply from a legal rights issue. I tune in each week and I enjoy their personalities and insight into tech.
      I have no doubt, btw, that OpenAI would win the issue in court, but the bad press would negate any winnings. Just goes to show that our creative rights only go so far as the court of public opinion will allow.

    • @brachiator1
      @brachiator1 4 місяці тому

      Parody or satire might be fair use. But this is not parody. It is commercial use. That the AI is voiced by a different actor is not a good defense. The AI is modeled on Johansson's performance for commercial purposes. This cannot be done without her permission or without compensating her. The producers of the film might also have a case.

    • @groovejunky2549
      @groovejunky2549 4 місяці тому +2

      ​@@brachiator1Parody law extends to commercial use, at least in entertainment. Weird Al made a career of it. You may be right that it wouldn't extend outside of entertainment. That said, I don't think parody is what OpenAI is angling for anyway.
      If I were OpenAI's attorney and OpenAI were being sued by Johansen I would argue that Johansen's performance in Her doesn't really do anything unique that can be copywritten outside of the actual visual and audio recording made on set. She certainly doesn't doesn't own the rights to be flirtatious and girly. The implications of Johansen winning such a case would severely limit the capability of AI/Human interfaces to imitate personality at all.
      Even in the case where OpenAi hired a different voice actor (which they allegedly did) and asked her to reference Johansen's performance in Her I believe they should be completely within their rights to do so. I'd be surprised to learn of any US laws that would actually prevent OpenAI from acting in this way.
      I bet the writer/director of Her would have a better legal claim, although it's interesting to note that they probably ripped the concept from Siri.

    • @brachiator1
      @brachiator1 4 місяці тому

      @@groovejunky2549 A performance in a movie is pretty much by definition unique. It is a set of decisions and choices by the actor and the director. I don't know if the contracts between the actors and producers that cover a similar area are available to the public, but they might be referred to in any legal dispute based on similar claims. It will be interesting to see what might happen in the future and what the outcome might be.

  • @IamYuto
    @IamYuto 4 місяці тому

    0:19 nothing better when you make a joke and the whole crew cracks up

  • @DiamondMaster115
    @DiamondMaster115 4 місяці тому +3

    There is a surprising amount of people that actually hate Windows 11. Microsoft is inserting ads into the settings page now and have been installing bloatware for years, and the fact that you have to pay $100+ for a liscense is just feels like an insult to injury for some.

    • @smalls0501
      @smalls0501 4 місяці тому +1

      Yeah it's insulting that people actually have to pay for a product

  • @FractalPrism.
    @FractalPrism. 4 місяці тому +1

    Even if Recall is encrypted, 100% local, 'secure' etc, if someone gains access to your machine its still the same doomsday scenario for not just "they have access to all my data" but "they know EVERYTHING ive done, or considered doing, or did halfway then cancelled, or did then deleted"
    but more likely? MS is actually training "tokens" or some other "we changed it so its not 'your data' per se, so its okay"....or someone simply hacks MS or your pc directly.

  • @shubhamghevade2662
    @shubhamghevade2662 4 місяці тому +4

    5:10. I hate that Sound Effect.. it's Very Disturbing
    Please stop for the god Sake

  • @sirwlat
    @sirwlat 4 місяці тому +1

    Interesting, no talk about the new xperia release.

  • @AlexAndersAuthor
    @AlexAndersAuthor 4 місяці тому +3

    Can I make a suggestion? You all have someone on the podcast who's a specialist on sound, cameras, phones, computers and the internet. But when you all start talking about AI, you get a lot of things wrong. Since AI isn't going anywhere, can I suggest that someone do a deep dive and understanding it so you all will no longer have that deficit?
    What about doing one of those deep dive episodes on how LLMS work so that everyone on the team will understand forever?

  • @edgvincent
    @edgvincent 4 місяці тому +2

    The Surface Laptop goes as high as 64 GB RAM, btw.

  • @imjustabilly6660
    @imjustabilly6660 4 місяці тому +7

    Wild how unenthusiastic Marques seems in this podcast lol. First time watching, is this vibe normal?

    • @gagnarork
      @gagnarork 3 місяці тому +1

      It's cause he knew you were here.

  • @farhan-momin
    @farhan-momin 4 місяці тому +1

    Recall can also be a problem for employees as companies will check on their every activity

  • @iMoha46
    @iMoha46 4 місяці тому +10

    The only thing Microsoft is killing is themselves

    • @TheTytan007
      @TheTytan007 4 місяці тому +6

      Their capitalisation value speaks a different story

    • @iMoha46
      @iMoha46 4 місяці тому

      @@TheTytan007 no way really? oh my god who knew

    • @christianr.5868
      @christianr.5868 4 місяці тому +3

      They’re also killing my interest in the iPad

  • @ShonSayfuddinov
    @ShonSayfuddinov 4 місяці тому +1

    I've noticed MArquess not speaking that much in the last 2 episodes. Anyone else notice the same thing?

  • @B-RaDD
    @B-RaDD 4 місяці тому +3

    Algo

  • @aledwilliams1234
    @aledwilliams1234 4 місяці тому

    The issue with the chatGPT vs Scarlett situation is that the sky voice is not “new” as is suggested by Andrew. The voice has been available to plus users for some time (I for one have been using it daily for some time) but suddenly everyone has jumped on the bandwagon due to this new timeline (which doesn’t make sense to me given how long the voice has been available)…

  • @SergioAbarca9
    @SergioAbarca9 4 місяці тому +8

    Is this podcast falling into the inevitable mediocrity and conformism? What is going on? 😅

    • @Tectonicia
      @Tectonicia 4 місяці тому +3

      You don't have to watch bro.

    • @philguy5221
      @philguy5221 4 місяці тому

      It’s the same as always lol, why even say this

  • @YolkaholicProductions
    @YolkaholicProductions 4 місяці тому +1

    I'd add two other reasons people might go for Windows over MacOS:
    1) Window snapping; it's always been better on Windows than MacOS (short of installing 3rd party software), and Windows 11 improved this even further.
    2) The ability to build/update your own machine (desktop). You can assemble a desktop with a plethora of components-perhaps ones never even officially tested together-and still get Windows to boot up successfully.
    MacOS runs incredibly well, but it's also only tested against 6 different types of hardware (and their various configurations), so the experience can be more easily tailored to take advantage of those specific hardware options.

    • @unkown34x33
      @unkown34x33 4 місяці тому

      correct. that's why I switched to Windows

    • @scod3908
      @scod3908 3 місяці тому

      Your 3rd point is the most important. I've had OEM released products with Windows compatibility issues. It's ridiculous, spec's don't matter when things just don't work as they should. Not all customers want bells and whistles; eg look at Toyota customers who pay a considerable premium for less features because they want reliability.
      Streamlined hardware just makes sense, and IMHO the Apple OS is just far more reliable than the MS products have been. There's nothing more upsetting than unboxing a brand new $3k laptop, DOA from poor QC, then have it repaired to find it overheats and crashes, trust me. MS Windows has no control over the quality of hardware it is used on, and the disconnect between hardware OEM's means that issues don't always get resolved promptly.

  • @Notdeepakchopra
    @Notdeepakchopra 4 місяці тому +1

    This is an exceptionally engaging and funny episode! Love this one guys

  • @aalex7gp
    @aalex7gp 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m all here for the Ellis’ Dune obsession. It’s so funny 🤣

  • @moustiboy
    @moustiboy 4 місяці тому +2

    Is the intro music a different moment from the track ? I feel like it's different in some small ways haha I like it

  • @hi55us2
    @hi55us2 4 місяці тому +1

    Fun fact about New Jersey. It has hosted more episodes of the Wayform podcast than any other state!

  • @jjbeats1398
    @jjbeats1398 3 місяці тому

    Can we get a pronunciation check on the artist who produces your intro and outro music? Wikipedia says something completely different than what Andrew says. And he’s French so I’m just curious

  • @Moose004
    @Moose004 4 місяці тому

    I love the soundboard the producers have, but it's hard to tell what's a sound bite and what's actually being said in the moment by the hosts. This can be really confusing when I'm listening and not watching too. Can you do something to make it more distinguishable as a sound bite with only audio? Maybe some sort of effect that makes it sound older or from the past

  • @NOTASCOOLASME
    @NOTASCOOLASME Місяць тому

    8:47 Marques is just being an agent of chaos really quick!! 😂

  • @andressilva5693
    @andressilva5693 3 місяці тому

    We need full (independent) reviews for the Surface tablet and laptop!!

  • @Shirley36
    @Shirley36 4 місяці тому +2

    omg the Gino reference 😂😂😂 "if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a bike"