Both of my 2015 Gibson Les Pauls came with the Gibson titanium saddles. The locking aspect of this is great & it looks like high quality. I may try it. 👍🏻😊
When two different metals are in contact in a corrosive environment, one of the metals experiences accelerated galvanic corrosion while the other metal remains galvanically protected. Time to replace those strings again. ....
If your guitar is constantly in a corrosive environment, you'll have bigger problems. If you're sweating acids then it's time to change your diet before your liver fails. Just saying.
This video needs a little clarification... Durability doesn't depend on strength - it's the hardness rating that counts. For example, the hardness rating for titanium grade 2 is about the same as 2024-T4 aluminum. This means they will scratch and wear about the same. 7075-T6 aluminum is even harder/more wear resistant than lower-grade titanium. In fact... I would argue 7075-T6 aluminum is superior for all the points in the video, and at 5 times less the cost. Strength on a bridge doesn't matter at all... the wood on the guitar would cave in before any common aluminum/steel alloy would fail. The guitar strings aren't capable of producing that kind of compressive force. If you're paying for titanium anything on a guitar, it should be for tonal qualities rather than structural (or resonance if it's grade 2 titanium, since resonance often depends on hardness. I doubt Ti-Sonix is using the very high, expensive grades of titanium since they don't list the grade on their website.)
The Floyd Rose Ti parts I have gotten are very durable. Locking trem bridges have to endure more abuse than any other bridge type. I'm not sure what alloy or grade they are using, but it's very durable, even the screws. The resonance is amazing.
Love the videos. TK I've been around for awhile and have been through many rounds of tone hunts and magic pill purchases. I have tried many upgrades to my amps, pedal boards and guitars. If I played well enough and long enough to ware out the metal parts I might consider replacing it with TI. At the rate I'm going, never, seems about right.
I feel you ... I personally have never wore out any parts (I think), but for a pro musician that plays night after night ... I see how this can help them. It's a high performance part.
That would eat your strings in no time at all, I have to assume. A number of people don't even like stainless steel frets because of how fast they go through strings. Now, if we start using a more durable string than nickel wound, that may be more viable, but the problem is all we've done is just recreated the situation before, just with harder metals (Harder fret material than string material). However, I'm all about new tech, so someone try it!
@@Aaron-zh4kj If my string vs my fret is going to wear, I’ll wear my strings any way. This is like saying you don’t want strong break discs because you will change he the pads to often.
TTK is there a webcam and little holder stand you'd recommend for home use? Something HD picture, decent sound from mic. This way I can interact better with you and the rest of the crew on live streams. I've looked online but I trust your advice and opinions. :)
Hey bud, I use a Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920 - they sell on amazon for about 60 bucks, and it works perfectly. Decent audio, good video, etc. Hope that helps!
Great vid TTK.....the SR71 blackbird was made from titanium, however the metal was bought from the USSR at the time under dummy companies. Then we spied on them with it, lol.
Hey Tk great vid as always 👍I live in Australia, recently wanted to up grade my standard Floyd Rose to a titanium piece which includes , titanium base plate, saddles, block , bar and locking nut. In Australia your looking at $980 just for the parts 😫
Maybe leave the Ti saddle on the low E, and A, and use brass for the rest. I think a bright guitar makes the tone control more usable. I haven't found TI parts to be too bright, but they seem to bring out resonances that are already there. I found steel to be ice picky, and brass to be dark sounding.
Titanium is built up to be this bombproof super metal and it seems that it's a buzz word to sell what would ultimately be a marginal tone change considering the prohibitive cost. The reality is that steel is stronger than titanium, but its corrosion resistance and strength to weigh ratio is the reason it's used is aerospace applications. From the various videos I've seen, titanium seems to bring out the high's and make the guitar a bit lighter and not much else really. Personally I would just change the pickup to accentuate the highs. And Floyd Rose tremolos tend to trim off a lot of low end, so considering that, even if I had the money, i would stay away from titanium Floyd. There might be benefits to Titanium, but I don't personally think they're worth paying triple that of a regular German made Floyd, even if I was swimming in cash.
My stratocaster Fender saddles keeps notching and always end up sounding like a sitar thing. Will titanium saddles resist the notching factor under stratocaster floating bridge abuse?
Stainless is much harder than titanium, but titanium is stronger. Hardness describes which material will scratch another (scratch = cut = abrade). Toughness/strength (stress & strain/ tensile strength) describes how much stress a material can take without a lasting effect or damage. Or how far can it be bent/stretched until critical failure (plastic deformation/breakage). So you can cut titanium with steel but bending titanium is much more difficult than bending steels.
I have a string thu body.. I just need the saddle.. $200 bucks. I wonder how much a knee is? "You want this professionally installed or do you got this"?
I came across some titanium nuts called Guynker or some weird name like that for $14 i believe they were cheap but are legit on Amazon. I put one on my Michael Kelly Patriot and it definitely has more sustain.
I always pay attention to details. At first your playing less vibrato and with titanium alot more. Hope you didn't turn your tone knob down. I do think there is a difference but not day and night.
I'll pass. I'll take the $20 Stew Mac nash bridge with an aluminum stop tail. If you're one of those sweaty acidic oil handed players, just wash your hands before playing and wipe your guitar down after playing... and change your strings often. If titanium made that much of a difference in tone, Gibson would have been using it. Titanium saddles maybe, buuuut the tonal difference is so minimal it doesn't justify the cost. If it did, all the top dogs would be using it.
They already exist but the manufacturer (Sintoms) doesn't recomend using them on metal string instruments Since you guys are curious about frets, check out JJL guitars and their Tungsten Carbide frets
Interesting but had to check if this was a paid advertisement for the bridge manufacturer…..also no before and after comparison? No clean sound, just distortion? Sorry “Tone King”not your best work
I went to the company's web page and the pictures of the bridge looks like it doesn't have the string grooves filed in. Perhaps I'm missing something? Do they do the filing per string size request? Thanks.
What a bargain at just $425 + Shipping! No way it impacts tone to any real degree. So if you are planning to keep your guitar for a 100 years.. oh wait... #thumbsdown
I love how you guys figure it all out. It's comical. For those that care - the company told me to say nothing at all. Every bit of research I did on titanium and the product information was all written by me. Of course that contains information as found on the internet, their website and information I specifically asked them about via email ... but to be clear - absolutely nothing was asked or demanded of me. Have any other conclusions you've figured me out on? I'd love to hear ...
If you like this video, perhaps you'd like : The 1 thing every manufacturer fails to mention ... : ua-cam.com/video/a4D2cjJALK4/v-deo.html
Loved it how you got lost into the music and were so darn happy. Music is therapy!
@@MckinleyDjents haha, thank you Mckinley!
What about adamantium/vibranium bridge assemblies?
Reserved for Phil X - a product of Weapon-X.
Both of my 2015 Gibson Les Pauls came with the Gibson titanium saddles. The locking aspect of this is great & it looks like high quality. I may try it. 👍🏻😊
Great job buddy! Greetings from Barcelona
When two different metals are in contact in a corrosive environment, one of the metals experiences accelerated galvanic corrosion while the other metal remains galvanically protected.
Time to replace those strings again. ....
But the strings will never touch titanium. They'll be touching titanium oxide
If your guitar is constantly in a corrosive environment, you'll have bigger problems.
If you're sweating acids then it's time to change your diet before your liver fails. Just saying.
Right you are, Tone King! I have a titanium nut on my Les Paul and I love it. Much better than bone or brass, in my opinion.
Hey, good to see you at 100k subs! One of the OGs of guitar channels. Keep up the good work man!
This video needs a little clarification... Durability doesn't depend on strength - it's the hardness rating that counts. For example, the hardness rating for titanium grade 2 is about the same as 2024-T4 aluminum. This means they will scratch and wear about the same. 7075-T6 aluminum is even harder/more wear resistant than lower-grade titanium.
In fact... I would argue 7075-T6 aluminum is superior for all the points in the video, and at 5 times less the cost. Strength on a bridge doesn't matter at all... the wood on the guitar would cave in before any common aluminum/steel alloy would fail. The guitar strings aren't capable of producing that kind of compressive force. If you're paying for titanium anything on a guitar, it should be for tonal qualities rather than structural (or resonance if it's grade 2 titanium, since resonance often depends on hardness. I doubt Ti-Sonix is using the very high, expensive grades of titanium since they don't list the grade on their website.)
Good comment.
The Floyd Rose Ti parts I have gotten are very durable. Locking trem bridges have to endure more abuse than any other bridge type. I'm not sure what alloy or grade they are using, but it's very durable, even the screws. The resonance is amazing.
That little sweep. I saw that! Pretty cool.
haha, thank you. It was a little rough, but I always try to go out of my comfort zone w something new.
Love the videos. TK I've been around for awhile and have been through many rounds of tone hunts and magic pill purchases. I have tried many upgrades to my amps, pedal boards and guitars. If I played well enough and long enough to ware out the metal parts I might consider replacing it with TI. At the rate I'm going, never, seems about right.
I feel you ... I personally have never wore out any parts (I think), but for a pro musician that plays night after night ... I see how this can help them. It's a high performance part.
@@thetonekingofficial Agreed
Great topic, goodjob with the footwork.
Thank you Eric!
Another excellent & informative video...love this channel!
In fact titanium is NOT corrosion resistant. But under normal air it gets a very sturdy oxydised layer and does not corrode any further.
That’s what makes it corosion resistant…
Simply great infos! Thought some lps do have Ti bridge parts and saddles, might be wrong?
Makes me wonder if titanium frets is a viable upgrade in the future
You sir, are a Genius! Makes me want titanium frets now haha!
That would eat your strings in no time at all, I have to assume. A number of people don't even like stainless steel frets because of how fast they go through strings. Now, if we start using a more durable string than nickel wound, that may be more viable, but the problem is all we've done is just recreated the situation before, just with harder metals (Harder fret material than string material). However, I'm all about new tech, so someone try it!
They're an option. Sintoms make the wire
@@Aaron-zh4kj They do make Titanium strings also.
@@Aaron-zh4kj If my string vs my fret is going to wear, I’ll wear my strings any way. This is like saying you don’t want strong break discs because you will change he the pads to often.
TTK is there a webcam and little holder stand you'd recommend for home use? Something HD picture, decent sound from mic. This way I can interact better with you and the rest of the crew on live streams. I've looked online but I trust your advice and opinions. :)
Hey bud, I use a Logitech HD Pro Webcam C920 - they sell on amazon for about 60 bucks, and it works perfectly. Decent audio, good video, etc. Hope that helps!
@@thetonekingofficial Thanks! I'll order it tonight for the next live chat. :)
Tune-o-matic® style Titanium Bridge Kit
Regular price
$425.00 cheap?
7.4 On the Rock Faces @ The End. Peace Louis. Will these become available for other guitar brands.? Or are they already.?
The rock faces are available for all guitar brands. Oh, you mean the bridges ... lol
Titanium frets?
Most of my jawline is made up of titanium. It's good stuff!
The materials in the bridge should make a MUCH bigger to the tone than for instance the woods..
Great vid TTK.....the SR71 blackbird was made from titanium, however the metal was bought from the USSR at the time under dummy companies. Then we spied on them with it, lol.
Hey Tk great vid as always 👍I live in Australia, recently wanted to up grade my standard Floyd Rose to a titanium piece which includes , titanium base plate, saddles, block , bar and locking nut. In Australia your looking at $980 just for the parts 😫
The prices are nuts in the US too. Almost $800 just for the saddles
1 of my fav things about the HP LPs is the titanium nut & saddles. Take of the robo tuners and u have 1 of the best LPs ever.
Sounds like a great idea. Maybe someday they'll have black chrome ones too.
A maple neck, Ash body telecaster with stainless steel frets, titanium nut and saddles, ice pick high frequencies oh my?
Maybe leave the Ti saddle on the low E, and A, and use brass for the rest. I think a bright guitar makes the tone control more usable. I haven't found TI parts to be too bright, but they seem to bring out resonances that are already there. I found steel to be ice picky, and brass to be dark sounding.
Did they go out of business? the link was dead
I prefer hearing the guitar unplugged in a before and after comparison.
Titanium is built up to be this bombproof super metal and it seems that it's a buzz word to sell what would ultimately be a marginal tone change considering the prohibitive cost. The reality is that steel is stronger than titanium, but its corrosion resistance and strength to weigh ratio is the reason it's used is aerospace applications.
From the various videos I've seen, titanium seems to bring out the high's and make the guitar a bit lighter and not much else really. Personally I would just change the pickup to accentuate the highs. And Floyd Rose tremolos tend to trim off a lot of low end, so considering that, even if I had the money, i would stay away from titanium Floyd. There might be benefits to Titanium, but I don't personally think they're worth paying triple that of a regular German made Floyd, even if I was swimming in cash.
I wonder if I can put that on another brand of single cut LP style guitar, like from Dean or ESP...
My stratocaster Fender saddles keeps notching and always end up sounding like a sitar thing. Will titanium saddles resist the notching factor under stratocaster floating bridge abuse?
the technical stuff is very cool. but when it comes to tone, I am not sold on titanium until I can hear comparisons.
Does Titanium bring the TiTONEum?
that's pretty funny!
Happy new year Louis,until they put roller saddles on,they're guitarded! Guild did it way back in the early 70's,peace mang \m/
Your leads sounds nice!
Stainless is much harder than titanium, but titanium is stronger.
Hardness describes which material will scratch another (scratch = cut = abrade).
Toughness/strength (stress & strain/ tensile strength) describes how much stress a material can take without a lasting effect or damage.
Or how far can it be bent/stretched until critical failure (plastic deformation/breakage).
So you can cut titanium with steel but bending titanium is much more difficult than bending steels.
Very kool, TK N' I need a new stoptail 4 my studio. Xheers! Likd 141
I have a string thu body.. I just need the saddle.. $200 bucks. I wonder how much a knee is?
"You want this professionally installed or do you got this"?
I came across some titanium nuts called Guynker or some weird name like that for $14 i believe they were cheap but are legit on Amazon. I put one on my Michael Kelly Patriot and it definitely has more sustain.
More metal!🎸
Titanic! \m/
Isn’t anit-seize compound a must for titanium screws and parts?
I would say for aluminum because it is corrosive from salt and moisture (sweat) from hands
Ti is non corrosive. It anodizes itself.
ive been trying to replace my floyd parts with titanium but they are impossible to find these days
Mike G fu tone.com bro
Do some searching on Amazon. I found some titanium saddles on there for i think they were $260
He’s definitely Ti curious
I could see putting these on a standard or a custom but not a studio
Why not ?
Guarantee you couldn't tell in a blindfold test..... longevity is the only thing...thank you for honesty
I upgraded my guitar to brass parts. Huge difference- clearer notes, less “muddy” and biggest giveaway is the much longer sustain.
I always pay attention to details. At first your playing less vibrato and with titanium alot more. Hope you didn't turn your tone knob down. I do think there is a difference but not day and night.
Love the opening jamming! Great information to consider for my future purchases or modifications. Great researching also.
Thank you AQ!
I'll pass.
I'll take the $20 Stew Mac nash bridge with an aluminum stop tail.
If you're one of those sweaty acidic oil handed players, just wash your hands before playing and wipe your guitar down after playing... and change your strings often. If titanium made that much of a difference in tone, Gibson would have been using it. Titanium saddles maybe, buuuut the tonal difference is so minimal it doesn't justify the cost. If it did, all the top dogs would be using it.
Titanium roller saddles
Titanium frets maybe?
I wondered that myself ... when does that happen?
@@thetonekingofficial just a speculation. I think it would be a great idea.
Problem might be either it improves and decrease sustain. Won’t know til someone does it.
They already exist but the manufacturer (Sintoms) doesn't recomend using them on metal string instruments
Since you guys are curious about frets, check out JJL guitars and their Tungsten Carbide frets
@@eloann excellent. Ty
😎
Gibson thats all you have to say.
Interesting but had to check if this was a paid advertisement for the bridge manufacturer…..also no before and after comparison? No clean sound, just distortion? Sorry “Tone King”not your best work
"Take me for a ride .... On Heavy Metal "
🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
That’s a beautiful guitar 🎸🤘
I went to the company's web page and the pictures of the bridge looks like it doesn't have the string grooves filed in. Perhaps I'm missing something? Do they do the filing per string size request? Thanks.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that they leave them blank so the person buying it can set it for their specific measurements.
Your playing skills are getting awesome my friend. But Your Facial expressions are creeping me out a little. LOL.
haha - I was just being stupid in the video. lol
It's guitar face!
They look machined
Titanium saddle blocks for floyd rose style trems are essential and not too pricey
What a bargain at just $425 + Shipping!
No way it impacts tone to any real degree.
So if you are planning to keep your guitar
for a 100 years.. oh wait... #thumbsdown
the $900 FR unit these guys make had NO difference on my $3000 Jackson. total waste.
@@grilledchickensalad7658 I want to see Darrell Braun test drive one of these. His take would be much different I think
All i did was add titanium inserts and a titanium nut. It most definitely has allot more sustain at the very least.
becaouse it sound like a woman's beasts heehe
well you read word for word everything the company told you to. thanks for wasting my time with you advertisement
I love how you guys figure it all out. It's comical. For those that care - the company told me to say nothing at all. Every bit of research I did on titanium and the product information was all written by me. Of course that contains information as found on the internet, their website and information I specifically asked them about via email ... but to be clear - absolutely nothing was asked or demanded of me. Have any other conclusions you've figured me out on? I'd love to hear ...
oh so it was just an ad....