How to Vortec Swap a 88-95 Chevy TBI Truck part 2

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  • @davidcollis4758
    @davidcollis4758 Рік тому +1

    I agree with you on the GM TBI Performance Intake. WAY too expensive for too little performance gain. Thanks for the video.

  • @davea5113
    @davea5113 25 днів тому

    Great job, don't listen to all the a-holes on the internet!

  • @iDrive4fun93
    @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому +1

    I finally got my vortec swapped in, all the same except I got a slightly more aggressive cam (204/214 at 050 with 450/450 lift) and Flowtech headers. I was able to reuse my distributor, it had a melanized cam gear on it from the factory which was awesome, same as the distributor that came stock in the vortec. Still got a bunch of piddly stuff to do, I was able to find a water pump for a TBI truck that had the extra hole on the left side, so I didn’t have to plug that hole up and I don’t need a bypass because of it. I am able to run my heater core hose straight to the water pump because of that. Although I may have 3/4 NPT fittings on my water pump, I will find out when I go buy some to complete that. Just need to get the starter motor back in, finish up the cooling system, get it timed, and get my tune from Harris Tuning, and still waiting on my custom TBI from SPR Performance.

    • @19jody72
      @19jody72 Рік тому

      Any updates?

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому +2

      @@19jody72 got it all back together. I forgot that my l31 block had holes tapped for an oil cooler, so I had to put that on a loop. Lost 4 quarts of oil when I started it the first time lol. Truck is running though, but the stock tune does not like that engine at all. Waiting on my tune from Harris Tuning, and I have to put in my new TBI from SPR Performance and my high pressure fuel pump. Got it running last week, but got the timing dialed today. It idles really nice.

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому

      @@19jody72 just posted a short to my channel as well

    • @19jody72
      @19jody72 Рік тому

      @@iDrive4fun93 Thanks man for the update.. "thinking" on going this route.. just a daily driver.. I'm done with drag racing and wasting money on broken parts.. just want a nice daily now

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому +1

      @@19jody72 I will update once I get my tune, and my new tbi and fuel pump on. Right now it idles really nice, and slow acceleration is fine, but give it a little gas and it bogs down and wants to stall out. It feels like a fueling issue, so hopefully the newer tbi with bigger injectors, higher fuel pressure, and the high pressure fuel pump will do the trick.

  • @jimmyrobertson3793
    @jimmyrobertson3793 2 роки тому +2

    I did a vortec engine swap on my 95 obs, and I can definitely tell an improvement in torque. It runs decent, but the idle fluctuates, and has a hesitation and bogs on acceleration once it's warmed up. I know it's not a timing issue. I believe I may need to get a chip.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      Yeah, tbi needs to give it more fuel. Get a jet chip or a custom one and it’ll help a ton

    • @jimmyrobertson3793
      @jimmyrobertson3793 2 роки тому

      @@_chevy_stepside Thanks. I was looking up Jet chips. What stage chip did you use. I have an all stock vortec 350 out of a 97 Tahoe, my truck is a 95.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +1

      I think it’s a stage 2 chip if I remember right, the truck has a “bigger” than stock tbi cam. (Stock Vortec cam which is .414/.428 lift compared to the tbi’s .395/.408) it also has a carb intake so you could probably push for a stage 3

  • @charlescutler3982
    @charlescutler3982 2 роки тому +3

    Excellent video

  • @harleysgarage327
    @harleysgarage327 Рік тому +1

    Years ago I did the same swap on my '93 with a mild Comp hydraulic roller. Mine ran okay but never quite right, I could not figure out if it was the cam(which was supposedly TBI compatible) or the fact that I live in a cold climate above 7000 ft. elevation. Does yours run as smooth as stock? Thanks!

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому +1

      Hi, it kind of does. The issue is when I put this truck together it was hurriedly and I had to use what I had around me. I used a tbi unit from an 87 c10 truck and without the chip the idle was kinda funky, and it would pop and backfire under heavy throttle. I used the jet performance stage 2 chip and it helped significantly. I want to do this swap again on another truck but do it in a better way.

    • @harleysgarage327
      @harleysgarage327 Рік тому

      @@_chevy_stepside Thank you, unfortunately Jet doesn't make a chip for the tbi with the 4L60e. I sold my truck and replaced it with a '93 Yukon, leaving the engine stock after the headaches I had with the last truck.

  • @Babyonboardtravelingford
    @Babyonboardtravelingford 2 роки тому +1

    bro nice job
    do you used the same pushrods and rocker arms tbi or vorctec engine

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +2

      It’s a complete 97 Vortec 350 long block, never did anything internal to the motor at all. I did was swap the intake and the front accessories to the tbi front accessories and a carb intake. It’s stock Vortec stuff

  • @LostShopGarage
    @LostShopGarage 2 роки тому

    Great work! Had a question about the heater hoses. I want to use my heater - how would I route my heater hoses?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      Run one line to the radiator, other one to a port on the intake manifold. I believe the larger one is the one to run to the radiator if I remember right

  • @fixarsteffe
    @fixarsteffe 4 місяці тому

    Hello there,
    i have an exact same pickup that you imported from califonia 3 years ago. it has been running like clockwork but now started to have problems. it stops all of a sudden and it can be started right after, but now I don't dare to drive any longer. I have changed the ignition module, spark plug, distributor cap, rotor, and fuel filter.
    can you help me! What is wrong?

  • @brentpew4853
    @brentpew4853 6 місяців тому

    Why couldn’t you use a vortec water pump instead of trying to block off the port?

  • @joshbyers9763
    @joshbyers9763 2 роки тому +1

    I’m doing this right now. Just installed Edelbrock 2716 intake and adapter. Found this video looking for more info on the throttle bracket, glad to see it works. My question is when you removed the EGR from the system does it throw a code? I was going to get a new chip to have it “deleted” from the system so it didn’t but was curious if yours did once it was removed physically from the system.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +1

      It probably does but it doesn’t affect runability or anything like that. Only does it if you drive it longer than about 25 miles

    • @XJon2011
      @XJon2011 Рік тому

      From what I know if it's ODB1 then there should be zero code or performance change, ODB2 should throw a code but I'm not sure about performance. Someone out there can tune it out if so.

  • @Drayelam21
    @Drayelam21 Рік тому

    I have a 95 Chevrolet c1500 4.3L vortex. I believe it's already a tbi and gonna swap for a 350 tbi. Shouldn't be to hard. Should bolt right up besides the mounts

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому

      That sounds about right, only other thing you’ll have to change is the computer to a 350 tbi computer but other than that it should be plug n play

  • @iDrive4fun93
    @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому

    I do have a question about the bypass. How would I do the bypass and still use the heater core? Would I need a 96-98 water pump?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому

      So I’m actually going to answer some questions on this truck when I go back to Texas this summer. For a more accurate idea of how to run the heater lines, check out my video “How to Carb Swap an 88-94 Chevy Silverado” and you’ll be able to see the heater lines in the background and how I ran them with the bypass. It’s virtually the same way

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому

      @@_chevy_stepside good deal. I’ve watched all these videos a few times over but I will watch it again and pay attention to that. Plus I am subscribed and have notifications on. You got the best videos for this kind of stuff and for vortec swaps.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому +1

      I appreciate the kind words, I’ll explain it on here, basically I ran my heater lines kinda like this (I’ll do my best to explain this through text) I ran the one on the left side (looking straight at the heater fittings) straight to the radiator like factory, the right side goes up to the front of the engine, into the intake on the passenger side on the front (with a Barb fitting and hose clamp), then the bypass is ran just like in the video. Hope this helps

  • @jackperry9369
    @jackperry9369 2 роки тому +5

    Thanks sir good clean info without acting stupid like a lot of you tubers

  • @jamesllovelacelovelace5855
    @jamesllovelacelovelace5855 9 місяців тому

    What Wires did you need from the wiring harness

  • @k3cars
    @k3cars 7 місяців тому

    you need 454 tbi to run stronger motor............good job man

  • @cowboyjunky90
    @cowboyjunky90 Рік тому

    In the previous video you said you had a Corvette l98 distributor. Did you change it? Because in your description here it says TBI distributor with hardened gear

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому

      I did, that distributor went bad like 3 days after filming the first video, so I took the gear off that corvette distributor and transferred it to the tbi distributor. Been running fine since

  • @iDrive4fun93
    @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому

    So I bought a vortec engine pulled from a 1 ton recently, getting it ready to swap into my truck. I am keeping the tbi system, and getting a bored tbi made for me with the cop car injectors. Do you have a part number for the melonized cam gear so I can re-use the distributor?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому

      I don’t have a part number unfortunately. I used one from a tpi corvette and it worked perfectly fine.

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 Рік тому

      @@_chevy_stepside ok, I will check those out.

  • @santanaastorga6036
    @santanaastorga6036 6 місяців тому

    Did you need to swap chip or will it work with stock chip ?

  • @1_obs_1992
    @1_obs_1992 11 місяців тому

    Can you swap the vortec distributor cam gear on to the tbi distributor to withstand the hardened steel?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  11 місяців тому

      You could probably get away with it, the donor motor I got didn’t come with a distributor so I used an old L98 TPI corvette one that I had laying around. But it would probably work, I’ve just never used one personally.

  • @malekdarshin
    @malekdarshin 6 місяців тому

    I just a '97 vortec into an '89 K1500. It's running rich and sputters a lot. I've chased every vaccume leak, and changed most sensors. Any ideas for me? Also did you have to get the Jet chip programmed? Do you have a link? I'm so frusterated I'm about to slap a carb on it!

    • @ruizz7166
      @ruizz7166 4 місяці тому

      I also had the same issue when I did a vortec swap on my 93 obs and the issue was that I had a v6 4.3 before the swap so I put in a 350 ecu computer and it fixed the rich fuel issue

    • @ruizz7166
      @ruizz7166 4 місяці тому

      Also make sure you are using vortec head spark plugs

  • @zachster6086
    @zachster6086 2 роки тому +1

    Do you have to change the spark gap? The vortex use like .65 gap but the tbi 350s ignition system used .35 so do you change the gap for the tbi ignition system or leave the plugs gapped at what the engines usually use?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +1

      I left it alone. The thing is, the Vortec trucks use a different style ignition system than the tbi (don’t quote me on this but I believe it’s a similar style to the optispark system in the LT1’s). When you swap the tbi back on, you’re basically putting tbi parts on a Vortec engine, I left the plug gap at whatever the Vortec plugs came with and had no issues whatsoever

  • @darkg3085
    @darkg3085 8 місяців тому

    what will i need to put a 99 vortec on my 92 v6

  • @jorgeaguilar6464
    @jorgeaguilar6464 9 місяців тому

    Could the same be done to six-cylinder 4.3 Chevy TBI

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  9 місяців тому

      It could but it wouldn’t make any power, plus the 4.3 parts are much more expensive than the 5.7 parts.

  • @parrishbrainerd8238
    @parrishbrainerd8238 Рік тому

    I put a 5.7 vortec crate motor in my 95 z71 4x4 and went with the original tbi set up and distributor est. Set base timing at 0. Truck starts great but under a load cuts out and pops thru throttle body sometimes dies out. What chip did you install to stop this problem?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому +1

      It’s been awhile since I put this truck together, I think it was a jet stage 1 chip or something along those lines

  • @andreww.6283
    @andreww.6283 Рік тому

    Hey bud, looking to swap a vortec long block into my 87 square body R10 (first year of TBI). Did you have any problems with not having the EGR? I was curious if your ECM would be throwing codes for the EGR unless you found some workaround. Thanks

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому

      The ecm does occasionally does throw a service engine soon light as you’re driving along but then it goes away as soon as you shut the truck off. Only happens if you drive it like 50 miles or more sometimes.

  • @DG850post
    @DG850post 9 місяців тому

    Is that transdapt spacer the 969-2206?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  9 місяців тому

      No sir that’s for a quadrajet intake. The only adapter I could find that looked remotely close was Holley 17-45 which is for a square bore intake flange (which is what I used).

  • @Ruben-w2i
    @Ruben-w2i 11 місяців тому

    Good job

  • @mattkurtz8549
    @mattkurtz8549 Рік тому

    Good video , so you didnt have to do anything to the computer? Thats good news im thinking of doing a similar swap.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому +1

      Nope didn’t do anything to the computer other than a JET Performance stage 1 chip for a little more fuel. Other than that I left it alone.

    • @mattkurtz8549
      @mattkurtz8549 Рік тому

      @@_chevy_stepside awesome thanks enjoy the truck!

  • @mechanicman8687
    @mechanicman8687 2 роки тому

    I put a vortec 350 in a 68 el Camino. Wondering if it has a 4 bolt main?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +1

      Most of the Vortec motors came with 4 bolt mains. To be honest unless you’re pushing for like 450+ hp it doesn’t matter if it’s a 4 bolt main or not. Some do and some don’t.

    • @mechanicman8687
      @mechanicman8687 2 роки тому

      @@_chevy_stepside
      They told me my vortec 350 came out of a ‘96 3/4ton HD.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      @@mechanicman8687 It could be a 4 bolt main. Only way to tell would be to pull the oil pan off and look

  • @jameschambers8263
    @jameschambers8263 Рік тому

    do you happen to know what part number is on the tbi adapter?

  • @chadjennings3907
    @chadjennings3907 2 роки тому

    I'm from Tennessee and not only do we sound alike.... we also think alike .... lol

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      Haha thanks

    • @chrisb8127
      @chrisb8127 2 роки тому

      What part? I'm in Wilson County Tn. I agree with your comment!

  • @jesusvargas7281
    @jesusvargas7281 2 роки тому

    Nice!! I did the exact same swap in a 94 k1500. What did you set your base timing at??

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +2

      Set the base timing at 0 degrees. Computer automatically advances or retards it at idle and as you rev

  • @jamesllovelacelovelace5855
    @jamesllovelacelovelace5855 9 місяців тому

    I'm doing the same thing and the Wiring harness is what's stoping me

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  9 місяців тому +1

      I didn’t make any sort of alteration to the wiring harness on this truck. Just reused the stock harness and ran that

  • @montezdavis86
    @montezdavis86 Рік тому

    Do you have to change the transmission

  • @truebadoormandaleallen6220
    @truebadoormandaleallen6220 Рік тому

    Do you have to flash the computer

  • @mattkurtz8549
    @mattkurtz8549 2 роки тому

    Looking to do an identical swap how much better does it run with tbi

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      It runs good, much faster than before, really needs a hotter chip thrown in it to utilize the full power of the motor but it runs really good.

  • @chrisb8127
    @chrisb8127 2 роки тому

    Sounded get! Just left another video of yours asking about making a video on the truck running to hear exhaust on it. I think I read it had flow master on it but I didn't recognize the series. Would the 40 or 44 make the sound quite a bit different? I've always liked that lower tone sound that the 40 or 44 type has. I hate how people get in the comments of UA-camrs videos and try to tell them how they did something wrong and how they would of done it. Some things and prices are different sometimes and there is other ways to do stuff but no need to be rude about it. Keep making the great videos and don't let them get to under your skin. I know I would be mad and wouldn't stop thinking and over thinking about it! That's why I wouldn't do good at making videos!

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      So on the red truck it has true dual Flowmaster FlowFX which are knock off magnaflow mufflers with stock manifolds. My black truck has the Flowmaster 40’s on it. The 40’s are more raspier and make more noise than a 44. I appreciate that man! I try my best and build what I like, not what someone else does.

  • @deviantrebel6326
    @deviantrebel6326 2 роки тому

    How’s the power and mpg? Compared to factory?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      Sorry for the late reply, been tremendously busy with school. To be honest, I never kept track of fuel economy, on the factory tbi motor this thing struggled to get 10 mpg and the other thing is this is a 33 year old 4x4 truck with heavy all terrain tires, it’s not going to get good fuel economy. I returned it to the customer not long after I finished it so I never had a chance to track fuel economy after the swap. The power is definitely up, by how much I have no idea. But you can definitely feel it. Definitely runs cleaner and smoother than with the wore out tbi engine.

  • @bobbyhackney988
    @bobbyhackney988 2 роки тому +1

    Great video with to the point information. I daily a 94 step side 2wd and love my truck. I’m thinking about doing the swap as well and I’m curious about the gas mileage. Did the vortec swap help? Btw I agree with your stance on the epa and emissions. Fuck em

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +1

      To be honest with you man, I quit caring about fuel economy. These trucks are 25-30 years old now and you can’t expect great gas mileage from them. My guess is with the exhaust and all being a 4wd it’s probably getting around 12-15 mpg if I had to guess

  • @jrgomez9484
    @jrgomez9484 2 роки тому

    any prefromance gains ?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +2

      Definitely. Haven’t dyno’d it yet to prove anything but it used to be this truck couldn’t get out of its own way, now it’ll roast the tires going into 2nd gear. The Vortec motors with the stock fuel injection make 255 hp compared to the tbi engine’s 210. The truck probably makes around 230-240 hp if I had to guess and a hell of a lot of torque. If you upgraded the tbi and threw a bigger chip at it, it would probably make more than that

    • @iDrive4fun93
      @iDrive4fun93 2 роки тому

      @@_chevy_stepside using those slightly bigger injectors in a 46mm ported assembly would probably net some gains. Technically the stock TBI unit flows enough to support a little over 300hp, using the cfm calculator. The TBI definitely isnt the weakest part of the engine on the stock swirl port 350s. With the EBL from dynamic efi and a WB02 you could probably tune this around 275hp, a bigger cam and 1.6 rockers could easily put it over/around 300 with the stock tbi.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому

      @@iDrive4fun93 This a customer’s truck who is over 65 years old. She’s not concerned in power so much as she is driveability. We’re probably gonna sell it later on maybe. Don’t know yet

  • @alfredovelez8867
    @alfredovelez8867 2 роки тому +1

    Did you have to change the engine harness ?

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  2 роки тому +1

      No I didn’t. Stock tbi harness worked just fine. Still used stock tbi, just changed out the motor underneath

  • @dillonpilkington5358
    @dillonpilkington5358 Рік тому

    I did the same swap with a carb intake and adapter plate. My truck bogs down and even cuts off some of you get on it from a dead stop. Did you install the jet chip after completing the assembly or before? Just wondering if the chip is the only thing I need. As bad as it runs sometimes I wonder if that will be all it takes to fix it.

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  Рік тому

      I did it after, mine did the same thing but after I put that chip in if you lean into the throttle it goes like hell, if you stomp on it it coughs but then goes, tune could use a little bit or ironing out to be perfect.

    • @dillonpilkington5358
      @dillonpilkington5358 Рік тому

      @@_chevy_stepside thanks for the info!

  • @johnnymack8442
    @johnnymack8442 2 роки тому

    If you need EGR I am sorry but not sorry lol

  • @adriancoss8916
    @adriancoss8916 4 дні тому

    Did you use newer harness

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  4 дні тому

      I did not, used the same 1989 TBI harness

    • @adriancoss8916
      @adriancoss8916 4 дні тому

      @_chevy_stepside which intake I need the 1 off 98 or the one off 1992 intake tbi

    • @adriancoss8916
      @adriancoss8916 4 дні тому

      Trying to buy newer engine off 98 5.7 to fix truck

    • @_chevy_stepside
      @_chevy_stepside  4 дні тому

      Did you watch the video? In there I explain which one you need to

    • @adriancoss8916
      @adriancoss8916 4 дні тому

      @@_chevy_stepside yea but not sure .. so you half to buy carburetor intake that fit a 96-2002? And also adapter plater or not? Cause on the setup I see on amazon there is no need for the adapter plate