From as long as I can remember, South Africans tend to use cake flour for fish. The fine meal is used for both pap and porridge. The coarse meal is mostly used as pap as well.
@@OurJourney2SouthAfrica you can also try to use Maizena ( a certain fine corn flour). We never use it for pap or porridge, only for frying or baking.
Your pronunciation for Iwisa was spot on. We use A for pap, porridge, (AmaRhewu/Magau, it taste like drinking yoghurt made from mealies) and many others like uPhuthu. For fried fish it's always cake flour.
Hey Guys...Iwisa you pronounced it very well....Yes you can differentiate very well. Yes we normally use A to make Pap. We also use B seldomly it makes a person full for a very long time. White South Africans like the B one when making Pap for a braai. We use wheat Flour to fry fish not maize.🥰
You can use janpap or braaipap for grits but we use cake flour for fish. You can even buy already spiced/flavoured flour for fried fish and chicken, it comes in small packs.
I'm just finding out that flour is used to fry fish here. That's so interesting! The States have something similar to the pre-seasoned packs, except it's pre-seasoned cornmeal for fish or seafood. We will have to give the flour a try. Thank you! 👍🏿
There is a lot of different brands of maize meal. We can also make pap from braai pap. We also make our own grits which is called "soft porridge". We make it from the finer mealie meal It's very similar to grits. Where I'm from we call braai pap the whites man porridge because it's easier to make pap with and it's mostly loved by the boere "Deutsch". So yes all braai pap are courser granules which you can make grits with.
Would love to live in a secured area that has everything you need. I would probably never go anywhere 🤣 Great content as always, SO proud of all of you!
Hi there, first time to comment😊. We use A for everyday pap and B is the same as A just coarse texture and cooks faster. There's also ACE my favourite maize meal for pap like IWISA. For your GRITS I think what's similar to that here would be MAIZE RICE(ACE brand) found in the same aisle you cook that low and slow stirring constantly and it has your GRITS consistency from what I've seen. Try it let me know if it is similar.
the grainy one we do have, it is called mielie rice (B), this would be the equivalent of what you call grits. To cook pap or porridge, we use A. The fried fish you fried can be eaten with anything really, it would be a personal choice and it is very rare to eat pap or mielie with fried fish.
I hope I cleared your mind . all the meals are from corn or what we call maize or mealies . What you call grit is corn rice or here called maize rice or mealie rice thus coarser .cake flours different brands snowflake. golden cloud etc are flours from wheat written on packaging . our local African population buy maize meal for pap and porridge . these made from what u call corn for us mealie or maize. there's a story when cast of lion king went to America they missed the pap .
First time i see maize flour used to fry fish, in SA we use cake flour for that. Both varients of that maize flour are used for pap just depends on preference.
A = Maize is for Pap only not frying anything (seasoned flour mixture is for frying) B = is also for pap but braai pap which gives it a much coarser texture A = can be either be cooked as breakfast AKA soft porridge, which we add sugar, some love it with butter & then milk-fresh or powder depending on the person A = also makes Pap, which is stiffer & the degree of stiffness depends on the person/province & even tribe. Because people from Limpopo province eat different Pap from those in KZN province and people in Limpopo also eat different kind of pap from each other. But the obvious distinction being that KZN people put salt in their pap & those in Limpopo do not. Limpopo province is also the one province where you find a lot of people loving pap and some even eat it in the morning, day & afternoon. E.g. Pap with eggs, pap with chicken/beef stew, pap with cabbage, pap with veggies, pap with whatever basically. This is mostly because they harvest their own corn & mill it to maize, so they rarely buy maize like Iwisa from the store because they make it themselves. Ohh and the texture of the end result and method of cooking the pap is also different among the people in those 2 provinces
Whew! All this talk about pap makes me want some pap! 😋 I tell ya, when we had our first taste with the meat sauce, we were HOOKED. I was on it for a WEEK straight. I MUST learn how to make it! There are a few dishes I'd like to try it with. 😋
A is pap and porridge B is what once called mealie rice. I am a s frican Indian orginally from kzn . Most s Africans useA for pap and porridge. A few decades ago Indians that could not afford rice for supper used. B. These days Indians as a treat will have B instead of rice. In Gauteng pap n vleis is sold as a takeaway like fish n chips. vleis is meatiness afrikaans n pronounced as starting with f sound . We don't have pap at home. In kzn the takeaway is bunny chow . Some brands used for pap r Ace n Nyala . most names in African languages . Difference between pap n porridge is porridge has a v softer consistency than pap. Porridge is eaten for breakfast mostly with yoghurt called Maas . To fry fish we use wheat flour n u can add brand name Maizena a corn flour which is finer than the corn meal A
I've heard of bunny chow. 🤔 I'm hearing that meal is not used to fry fish. That's interesting! We use flour to fry chicken l. I must try using flour for fish to see if the kids will enjoy it.
I've never seen the Course Maize Meal before, We use IWISA(you correctly pronounced) for both Porridge and Pap. We use Flour with spices to coat Fish for frying but the best option is to use Coating Products specifically for making KFC(Fried Chicken) or Fried Fish. I've never heard of anyone using Maize Meal/Corn Meal to Fry something
I usually don't like commenting on YT but I'll jump on, but part of the problem is that African languages don't translate well to English so there's a lot lost in translation. The word pap is used to mean a lot of variation that we have deferent words for or the the difference or type can be inferred from situational context. What you had/tried with the Stew that Chase said you must eat with your hand was made with (A) and is what people mean when they say pap. (B) makes another kind of pap that my mom refered to as mealie-rice, it's kinda like pap made with rice. The word Porridge we use to refer to another kind of pap that is smooth thick and liquidy sometimes it comes in flavors it's essentially a cereal.
Yeah it's also a little sensitive to the cook ie who's making it, because unlike rice or mealie-rice/grits that you just essentially boil to a certain point and it'll come out the same in the end, pap is very process dependent. The water maize meal ratio and especially the utensil and "stirring style" all yield slitly different tastes and textures, this is why we don't usually buy it, I'm a grown @$$ man and I never had store bought pap in my life, we all eat home made. (A) however is "impuphu" maize meal that the pap you had with the Stew was made with, it comes in many brands but 'THEY ARE ALL THE SAME' don't believe the Megacorps they are all liers 😔😂🤫🤭, @ ours we only use Spar branded maize meal it strikes a nice balance between price and quality and tastes great. There is no right or wrong pap, just your pap, that your kids will grow up eating and that will inform what pap, is the Price family's, so all this to say don't stress don't get caught up in the terminologies and the too many brands, (A) is what pap is made with, and you are gonna have to experiment to figure out 'youre pap' that you like.
South african cooking 101 1. We use Maize meal (A) to cook both Pap and Porridge (never for Fish) i.e *use less Maize meal and more water for porridge *Use more Maize meal for Pap (cook till you get thick rubbery consistancy) 2. We use Flour to fry Fish
Hi! I work at the migrant detention center here in SA! You should bring the kids over so they see more Africans. We have all kinds, from basically the whole continent, plus it'd be a holistic learning experience! Look forward to having you guys over
@@biggeststeppa1 do you even know the definition of detention centre? Definition A detention centre is a sort of prison, for example a place where people who have entered a country illegally are kept while a decision is made about what to do with them. detention centre noun an institution for the short-term detention of unauthorized immigrants, refugees, people awaiting trial or sentence
You can Eat Pap with Braai stake🥩 "Braai Vors or Chicken is delicious🥘🍗 any kind of meat you can enjoy with Pap it's last longer in stomach🍚🥘🥩🍚 Mr Chase will gain more weight Eating Papa🍗🍚🍗
From as long as I can remember, South Africans tend to use cake flour for fish. The fine meal is used for both pap and porridge. The coarse meal is mostly used as pap as well.
I see! So both are used. 👍🏿
@@OurJourney2SouthAfrica yup both are used
@@OurJourney2SouthAfrica you can also try to use Maizena ( a certain fine corn flour). We never use it for pap or porridge, only for frying or baking.
Got it! 👍🏿
Heartwarming to see people believing in our country.
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Just FYi SASOL is South African very own petroleum brand.
It stands for SouthAfricanSyntheticOilLimited.
Oh wow, we had NO idea! Thank you for that information.
SASOL is renowned for making petrol from coal . SAs own Petro chemical giant , stands shoulder to shoulder with the world's best.
Let's get it SA!! 👊🏿
@@durbansfinestbiker0312 I'm sure she knows.
Read her first comment. You're late for the early show.
Your pronunciation for Iwisa was spot on. We use A for pap, porridge, (AmaRhewu/Magau, it taste like drinking yoghurt made from mealies) and many others like uPhuthu. For fried fish it's always cake flour.
Thank you. Got it. 👍🏿
Thank you so much I highly appreciate it ❤❤.
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Hey Guys...Iwisa you pronounced it very well....Yes you can differentiate very well. Yes we normally use A to make Pap. We also use B seldomly it makes a person full for a very long time. White South Africans like the B one when making Pap for a braai. We use wheat Flour to fry fish not maize.🥰
That is soooo interesting! We must try making pap. Thank you. ☺️
For texture i use both fine and coarse meal for pap/phuthu, for porridge we use fine one and for fish we use flour.
Ahhh, I see! We use meal for frying fish and flour for frying chicken.
If I may please ask what is the difference between pap and porridge?
Pap is hard, and porridge is soft
Char: It has an aftertaste
Chelci: It has a BEFORE and MIDDLE!
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Love this family very down to earth love maize meal but only made it in winter.
It is a good winter meal. 😋 We love you back! 🥰 🥰🥰
You can use janpap or braaipap for grits but we use cake flour for fish. You can even buy already spiced/flavoured flour for fried fish and chicken, it comes in small packs.
I'm just finding out that flour is used to fry fish here. That's so interesting! The States have something similar to the pre-seasoned packs, except it's pre-seasoned cornmeal for fish or seafood. We will have to give the flour a try. Thank you! 👍🏿
We use A for breakfast porridge and pap. We use flower to fry fish and to bake cake or dumplings.
There is a lot of different brands of maize meal. We can also make pap from braai pap. We also make our own grits which is called "soft porridge". We make it from the finer mealie meal
It's very similar to grits. Where I'm from we call braai pap the whites man porridge because it's easier to make pap with and it's mostly loved by the boere "Deutsch". So yes all braai pap are courser granules which you can make grits with.
That's SO interesting! I must try grits/porridge with the finer meal. Thank you for that info! 👍🏿
We coat our fish with eggs and then use cake flour to fry it.
I will try it. Thank you for that tip. 👍🏿
I should try fish with maize meal
Let us know how you like it. 👍🏿
It would be interesting if mom also makes a friend to ask all this questions since the kids have also moved on and made friends 😂
My friends have been a big help as well as the family in the comments. 😉
I cant help much with the cooking part. I am the household taste expert, my taste buds are exceptional and do well with being exploited...😂
'household taste expert' 😆🤣😂
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@@somaphungarsa We love you back! 🥰🥰🥰
Would love to live in a secured area that has everything you need. I would probably never go anywhere 🤣 Great content as always, SO proud of all of you!
Thank you. They have a lot of them to choose from. 😉
I use both A & B for pap and porridge. Flour is used when frying fish or meat
Got it! 👍🏿
Hi there, first time to comment😊. We use A for everyday pap and B is the same as A just coarse texture and cooks faster.
There's also ACE my favourite maize meal for pap like IWISA. For your GRITS I think what's similar to that here would be MAIZE RICE(ACE brand) found in the same aisle you cook that low and slow stirring constantly and it has your GRITS consistency from what I've seen. Try it let me know if it is similar.
I sure will give it a try! Thank you for commenting! ☺️
A is used for pap and soft porridge. It's my first time seeing B. I think B is used to feed the chicks ( baby chickens) in Eastern Cape
@@sofiyabammukardam4119 B is used to feed the chickens??🐔 😳 😂
I'm curious about A. We will definitely give it a try. 👍🏿
U guys should visit pebble rock golf estate and Zambezi manor lifestyle estate in Pretoria north
Frozen yoghurt yum.
the grainy one we do have, it is called mielie rice (B), this would be the equivalent of what you call grits. To cook pap or porridge, we use A. The fried fish you fried can be eaten with anything really, it would be a personal choice and it is very rare to eat pap or mielie with fried fish.
Now, I get it! Thank you! 👍🏿
B is called braaipap, mealie rice has much bigger granules than that.
We use A for pap. Brands mostly used for pap are White Star and Iwisa
I will give it a try. 👍🏿
@@OurJourney2SouthAfricawhite star is our family fave . Iwisa is hard.
Ohhh Midstream 😊 I got a friend who stays there
Niiiice! ❤️
I hope I cleared your mind . all the meals are from corn or what we call maize or mealies . What you call grit is corn rice or here called maize rice or mealie rice thus coarser .cake flours different brands snowflake. golden cloud etc are flours from wheat written on packaging . our local African population buy maize meal for pap and porridge . these made from what u call corn for us mealie or maize. there's a story when cast of lion king went to America they missed the pap .
Yes, it's clear. There are quite a few different names. Thank you for the information. 😘
Most South Africans use A to make pap. We can add a lot of water to A to make porridge.
I will have to try A to make the grits/porridge. Thank you! 👍🏿
A is the 1 we make Poridge that you can call Pap jeah
I will eventually try to make it myself.
First time i see maize flour used to fry fish, in SA we use cake flour for that. Both varients of that maize flour are used for pap just depends on preference.
I'm just finding out that flour is used to fry fish. I'm curious to try it out. 🤔
A = Maize is for Pap only not frying anything (seasoned flour mixture is for frying)
B = is also for pap but braai pap which gives it a much coarser texture
A = can be either be cooked as breakfast AKA soft porridge, which we add sugar, some love it with butter & then milk-fresh or powder depending on the person
A = also makes Pap, which is stiffer & the degree of stiffness depends on the person/province & even tribe. Because people from Limpopo province eat different Pap from those in KZN province and people in Limpopo also eat different kind of pap from each other.
But the obvious distinction being that KZN people put salt in their pap & those in Limpopo do not. Limpopo province is also the one province where you find a lot of people loving pap and some even eat it in the morning, day & afternoon. E.g. Pap with eggs, pap with chicken/beef stew, pap with cabbage, pap with veggies, pap with whatever basically. This is mostly because they harvest their own corn & mill it to maize, so they rarely buy maize like Iwisa from the store because they make it themselves.
Ohh and the texture of the end result and method of cooking the pap is also different among the people in those 2 provinces
@@OurJourney2SouthAfrica you can find flour that is already seasoned for fish or chicken frying in the supermarkets.
Whew! All this talk about pap makes me want some pap! 😋 I tell ya, when we had our first taste with the meat sauce, we were HOOKED. I was on it for a WEEK straight. I MUST learn how to make it! There are a few dishes I'd like to try it with. 😋
We use Bread flour to bake our fish 🐟
I've heard. Now, I have two different ways to try it. 😉
A is pap and porridge B is what once called mealie rice. I am a s frican Indian orginally from kzn . Most s Africans useA for pap and porridge. A few decades ago Indians that could not afford rice for supper used. B. These days Indians as a treat will have B instead of rice. In Gauteng pap n vleis is sold as a takeaway like fish n chips. vleis is meatiness afrikaans n pronounced as starting with f sound . We don't have pap at home. In kzn the takeaway is bunny chow . Some brands used for pap r Ace n Nyala . most names in African languages . Difference between pap n porridge is porridge has a v softer consistency than pap. Porridge is eaten for breakfast mostly with yoghurt called Maas . To fry fish we use wheat flour n u can add brand name Maizena a corn flour which is finer than the corn meal A
I've heard of bunny chow. 🤔 I'm hearing that meal is not used to fry fish. That's interesting! We use flour to fry chicken l. I must try using flour for fish to see if the kids will enjoy it.
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Hello there! 👋🏿
I've never seen the Course Maize Meal before, We use IWISA(you correctly pronounced) for both Porridge and Pap. We use Flour with spices to coat Fish for frying but the best option is to use Coating Products specifically for making KFC(Fried Chicken) or Fried Fish. I've never heard of anyone using Maize Meal/Corn Meal to Fry something
That's so interesting. We use cornmeal to fry fish/seafood.
@@OurJourney2SouthAfricaIt would be interesting for me as a S/african to try fry fish with cornmeal, I must say I was shocked when I saw you do it😅
Try the cornmeal, and we will try the flour. 😉
Yep we use A to make pap...Family pls try Castle Gate shopping center its quiet cool not too far from you guys cheers..
Thank you! We will check them out. 👍🏿
I love butter pecan too
It's absolutely delicious! 😋
There are deference of making maize meal, you can make it for porridge and meals
The best Maze Meal to cook and enjoy Pap is (A) ✅️
Also try to get White Star Super Maze Meal better than iwisa
We will look for that brand. Others are also recommending that one. 👍🏿
@OurJourney2SouthAfrica "Yes White Star Super Maize Meal is whiter than any other MaizeMeal, it's taste too'very good👍
We'll give it a try.
Why not explore others near Midstream, like Menlyn in Pretoria.
I was actually at Menlyn a few days ago drooling 🤤 😍 . I didn't record, but there will be more coming.
Braipap is very course and considered a healthier option for making pap,but expensive for an average citizen!
We will have to compare them. Thank you for that information. 😉
Option A is the one
Got it! 👍🏿
Hey fam, we use A to make pap.
Got it 👍🏿
You use maize meal to fry fish? We use flour lol
Yes, meal for fish and flour to fry chicken. That's interesting! I will give the flour a try on fish.
i have never used the maize meal labeled B😭
That's exactly what we use in the States for grits. I'll have to give 'A' a try, though.
Please just visit Basonia...
We'll look into it. Thank you! ☺️
Both
Got it! 👍🏿
Those proces are high 19 rand???
R19 is not high
That would be about $1 is it high?
Are you saying they go cheaper?
Yes, it's roughly $1. We would not find them that low in the States.
A for pap
We will give it a try. 👍🏿
A we ate
I usually don't like commenting on YT but I'll jump on, but part of the problem is that African languages don't translate well to English so there's a lot lost in translation.
The word pap is used to mean a lot of variation that we have deferent words for or the the difference or type can be inferred from situational context.
What you had/tried with the Stew that Chase said you must eat with your hand was made with (A) and is what people mean when they say pap. (B) makes another kind of pap that my mom refered to as mealie-rice, it's kinda like pap made with rice.
The word Porridge we use to refer to another kind of pap that is smooth thick and liquidy sometimes it comes in flavors it's essentially a cereal.
This is VERY clear. Thank you! I enjoyed the pap we had with the stew. When I tried it somewhere else, the texture seemed different.
Yeah it's also a little sensitive to the cook ie who's making it, because unlike rice or mealie-rice/grits that you just essentially boil to a certain point and it'll come out the same in the end, pap is very process dependent. The water maize meal ratio and especially the utensil and "stirring style" all yield slitly different tastes and textures, this is why we don't usually buy it, I'm a grown @$$ man and I never had store bought pap in my life, we all eat home made.
(A) however is "impuphu" maize meal that the pap you had with the Stew was made with, it comes in many brands but 'THEY ARE ALL THE SAME' don't believe the Megacorps they are all liers 😔😂🤫🤭, @ ours we only use Spar branded maize meal it strikes a nice balance between price and quality and tastes great.
There is no right or wrong pap, just your pap, that your kids will grow up eating and that will inform what pap, is the Price family's, so all this to say don't stress don't get caught up in the terminologies and the too many brands, (A) is what pap is made with, and you are gonna have to experiment to figure out 'youre pap' that you like.
Sounds like a lot of trial-and-error ahead for finding the right mix/texture, but we're willing to give it a try! 😁
White star maize meal is no1 for making pap
We will try it.
South african cooking 101
1. We use Maize meal (A) to cook both Pap and Porridge (never for Fish)
i.e
*use less Maize meal and more water for porridge
*Use more Maize meal for Pap (cook till you get thick rubbery consistancy)
2. We use Flour to fry Fish
Thank you for the detailed breakdown. How interesting, we will have to try floured fish. We use flour to fry chicken.
Did he just say vamos gents? 😂😂
He did! 😆 🤣 😂
We flour to fry fish
We will give that a try! That will be another SA first experience. 😉
Im just as confused as you about maize meal. 😂😂😂
It seems it's used for so many different foods.
Where do you actually live in South Africa
We are in Gauteng.
Thank you, appreciate you responding. ❤I can’t wait to visit
It is LOVELY!
Hi! I work at the migrant detention center here in SA! You should bring the kids over so they see more Africans. We have all kinds, from basically the whole continent, plus it'd be a holistic learning experience! Look forward to having you guys over
No . Not the detention centre. How odd , cold and sombre ?
What a strange comment. Is everything ok at home brother?
Why would kids be where criminals are , breakers of law? Are you ok upstairs?
@@Afrosoil11 criminals go to prison, not detention centers.
@@biggeststeppa1 do you even know the definition of detention centre?
Definition
A detention centre is a sort of prison, for example a place where people who have entered a country illegally are kept while a decision is made about what to do with them.
detention centre
noun
an institution for the short-term detention of unauthorized immigrants, refugees, people awaiting trial or sentence
It's sad😢
We use A for both pap and porridge, we use flour to bake/ fry fish, I’ve never heard of Braai pap
I will have to try out A.
I would advise you to buy White Star not Iwisa Kaizer chiefs football club
We will check it out. Thank you! 👍🏿
@@berengsello5645 My guy"they don't know straggling Kaizer chiefs 🤦♂️.
The third child, who she is ?
She's a friend and schoolmate of Chelci's.
You can Eat Pap with Braai stake🥩 "Braai Vors or Chicken is delicious🥘🍗
any kind of meat you can enjoy with Pap it's last longer in stomach🍚🥘🥩🍚
Mr Chase will gain more weight Eating Papa🍗🍚🍗
That sounds DELICIOUS! 😋
A is for Pap/soft porridge
We use flour for fish
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We will give it a try. 👍🏿
@@OurJourney2SouthAfrica ❤
A for pap and porridge, b is not popular dont worry about it , just a varient.
Got it! 👍🏿