LARGE (DIY) HANGAR / SHOP DOOR DESIGN! FOR $1500.00!
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Hey guys, I thought it would be beneficial for some to show the hangar doors I built on the 100X60 Airplane Hangar shop building I built.
The one door was my own design and the other is a common hangar door design in my area that I think is an affordable easy door to build. I built the one hangar door for around $1500.00 dollars.
Both doors are 50X11ft built from 2x2 square thin wall steel tubing.
The Hangar shop is a Steel building kit that I put on columns and footers.
This was primarily built by myself with some help.
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Door #1, #2, or #3 . You are right #3 is the best design. You are a very creative practical engineer.
The best engineers come off the farm. 🤠👍 Vaughn
Hi Jonas&Silvia, WOW you make me want to be 50 years younger. A really great job. I hope Trent Palmer sees it, just what he needs at his home.
yeah, well just about everything I see these days makes me want to be 40 years younger. Wouldn't that be nice!
Interesting video. My father and I built a nice 50 ft. wide hangar door that was a “5” fold (5 ft. panels, 5 on each side of center). We fabricated the panels with a torsion box structure out of plywood with interior foam insulation. It folded to the inside of the hangar. Easily opened by a single person, no cables, no motors, no electricity, excellent sealing against the weather. Worked great and was copied by several people on a residential airpark. btw I grew up on a farm in Bliss Idaho.
Tell us more I’m having hard time visualizing it
I love the pencil limiting switch on the winch :D
Jonas, you are quite an engineer. You attack every project with enthusiasm. Always fun to watch, no matter what you are building.
Nice useful video. There are lots of ways to build hangars and their doors all depending on how deep your pockets are. I built a 30' x 30' shed/hangar with sliding doors for less than £1,000. ($1,500). Not as pretty an Jonas's buy hey I am a mean old bugger. Regards, Jim in NI UK
Video that sucker and show us!! I’m trying to do the same. Got 3 grain bins for $100. Have 700 into some 4x4 square tube for the 40’ opening
Hi Jonas, I have built a few doors in my life which is about twice of yours and hat is off to you. This was one of the main reasons I subscribed to your channel was because you are not like most people. You can actually walk and chew gum at the same time no problem. That's what I like about you and I think you have done a bang-up job on those doors for the amount of money Invested. Great job chum. I also wanted to take a moment to compliment you on your snow skies. I don't know if I had but they are the cat's ass as far as I am concerned. I wish you and your wife the very best and would love to meet you guys one day. Take care and fly safely.
Jonas, your awesome!
If you can dream it, you can build it!
I like how you figure the pros and cons if it will work before you build things.
Reminds me of me. Takes a little bit more time but your not disappointed when the outcome works.
I really like those doors and really admire that you just built them yourself, rather than just drop thousands for someone else to come do it for you. Hat is definitely off. A few things I've noticed:
5:24 The Crosby clips look like they're rigged backwards on that wire rope. The saddles of the clips always go on the long, or live end otherwise, they WILL slip. "Never saddle a dead horse". They make fist grips that can go on either way, but those aren't them. On the second door, 11:27 Those clips are installed correctly.
The other possible danger I see is the winch. If that is what is holding the door up, it could be a real problem one day. They look similar, but the difference is, a winch is for pulling, but a hoist is for lifting things and has some sort of brake. Usually, it's electrically operated; when the motor starts the brake releases and off you go. Just about every winch I've seen has nothing but gear reduction to stop it from turning if enough force is exerted. If the door is counter balanced enough that the winch/hoist is only for moving the door, then no problem. Otherwise, if there's something that mechanically holds it after the door is raised (say a chain grab or similar), also, no problem.
Hate to see someone hurt or something broken. You might want to swap those cable clips around the proper way before anyone walks under that thing when it's open. Check the Crosby Group website for very good rigging info.
Thanks for your input. I’ll definitely go double check them.
as a door tech for over 35 years myself I would of used a shaft and drums on door #3 instead of so much cable, by using cable on drums you could of got some gear reduction action going in there but I guess to each their own. but they work so I will give you that, great job.
Excellent job
I don't have a plane, I'm not getting a plane, so I'll never need a hanger, but I still enjoyed seeing your video. That's saying something.
Since you don't like hinges, I guess bi-fold was out of the question. They work great as far as snow. Also very safe in higher winds. The newer ones use wide straps instead of cables. My door is 45 feet wide and about 16 feet tall, 18 ft to the eaves. 2 stories at our office end of the building. Our door has needed no real repairs in 22 years. The building was from R&M steel out of Boise.
I didn’t have the head room for a bifold. That’s one thing that is a downside to the bifold. They are great doors though.
@@JonasMarcinko that is a financial consideration the "extra hight" needed for a bi-fold can be a chunk of $..my "by-pass-doors" SUCK, ZERO head room,extra nito.in strut just to clear vert.stab.
@@JonasMarcinko That's the same problem I have no room for the bifold.
Higher Power Doors are the best doors! Don’t build one get a Higher Power you won’t be disappointed. They are basically the best tugs of hangar doors
Love the engineering choices . Well done young feller ................
i would never own a hangar or a hanger door or a plane for that matter, but it was fun too see how u do think this through. learned something here.
wow, inspiring man! you continue to impress, never really thought about hanger doors but have thought of building a hanger, just never had any experience in it at all. Pretty cool stuff thanks for sharing!
Genius😏
Yes, door #2 design is very crafty.
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Quick visual feedback for modification. Take off the barrels and reduce counterweight by the doors (the door beam on the cable).
That was a Great series on Your Pole Barn Build .Will be Building a 48x60 Pole building Man Cave shop..With a lean too on one side.Will be great help always like new ways and young Ideas,,Especialy the Rank a underground air system for cooling and help with Heating. Gets cold like Idaho in 100 Mile House British Columbia Have room for AirStrip but Have to be Advanced UltraLight(gettin Old) Which is 1050 lbs.Gross Cheers Richrad
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Thanx Jonas, this R & D will come in handy when I build my hangers. Much love to you and the Mrs. S. ~ your neighbor
Impressive!
Thanks bud!
Dude that second door your recommend looks and opens awesome.
I love that Jonas I am getting ready to build a shop to build my planes and work on my vehicles. Thanks
Awesome design on door number 3
Hello from Jerome Jonas!
Last day of school and a video from you.
Nice piece of engineering and execution.
Yeah I was thinking 12v pump on hydraulic rams, with manual hydraulic backup. But yours is probably much less expensive
Your idea looks great Jonas!
Hi Jonas, I built a door exactly like the last one you showed and it works great. Except I used a regular garage door opener in the center with counter weight on the end. It was a 40 foot door. John
That's great! I like that idea! I may do the same in the future.
Thanks for the comment
Jonas your crew and you did an awesome job designing & building the hanger & the doors
Awesome doors.
Post frame construction. Look it up.
Nice job. I especially like the second door... very similar to old-school garage doors. They worked great for a hundred years, for a reason :)
well done
Love it! Built my 42' bifold door for my pole barn hangar out of wood with the help of my dad. Gotta say I'd love to hear more about your structure on your doors...sounds like you started a little light on the 1st door you built. Mine is way too light in my opinion and I can't open it in heavy winds, but with the correct bracing it has done really well in keeping the planes safe.
I have built two hydraulic doors and they are lots better than the sliders. Great video.
Great video, super informative. May I suggest that you find some way of limiting camera movement, I have 30 years as a pilot & you've managed to make me feel airsick lol!
Keep up the good work, we really enjoy your adventures.
Wow that’s great ! I could build stuff like that I’m sure but it would take me a life time you have some amazing energy there . My rental uses these large 3 or 4 inch wide yellow straps with the hinges in the middle . straps look very strong but the system looks very $$$$$ . Great vids congratulations again 👍
Thank you very much!
What the heck do all you guys do to make a living. I mean holly cow that's more carpet than I have ever even seen in one place!
He talks about that in this one: ua-cam.com/video/e16fGoIVMyc/v-deo.html
I always build all my hanger doors. Now I just need a hanger on which to put them.
@David Hall
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Big fan of all your work Jonas...you make a lot of neat things. I would like to see you make something super crazy, like a hovercraft or a UFO!😀Thx for the video's!✌
Thanks! I would love to!! My friend always is talking about antigravity stuff.
Maybe one day ; )
Jonas I would seriously recommend bracing your rollers in the track with a second hinge and more frame work on the ends of the doors. Look up double end stile sectional doors to see what I’m talking about. As a door technician/installer I’ve seen much smaller and lighter doors come out of the tracks. I like the concept tho. Also I really hope everyone who uses those doors inspects the cables before each use and of course never stand under them.
Jonas, a couple of comments. I know for a fact that Steven is the real deal and a master of industrial door design, maintenance and repair. He and his dad are getting ready to build their own steel hangar/workshop and it will be interesting to see what he comes up with for his door. Also, when do you think the rope swing pond will be warm enough to teach Silvija the back flip?
@Steven Garis, I see in @KingO-Vetts comment you are up for building your own hangar/workshop. Perhaps you can capture as much as you can of it in a video (or picture-slide-show), toss it up on a channel of your own & share the link here maybe, or w/@Jonis Marcinko if he's up for it.
Yeah that probably wouldn’t be a bad idea. Thanks for your input. I’ll take a look at it.
Thanks for posting this video, great work.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks for making this video. I've been waiting for this one. Gives me some ideas for my own build.
Glad I could help!
Jonas. You should totally consider starting a second UA-cam channel where you fabricate things. Just everything from airplanes to your Ride it board, to anything really. I find your few video's that you did fabrication work on this channel were some of the most entertaining videos for me personally to watch. Im sure im not alone on this opinion either. You have a gift of being able to build things, rather great i must say. I think you should use it to possibly start another channel that can be HUGE! Idk, just a thought, an idea. Maybe you don't have the time, or maybe it just doesn't interest you in the slightest. We will see :)
Thanks man!
Definitely love building things. The time is the issue!
But I’ll give it some thought about a second channel.
@@JonasMarcinko Awesome Jonas! Geesh, what a polite guy you are. Lol. I just realized, i called you "Joel" by accident and you didn't even correct me. Woops, sorry.
Jonas Marcinko - he is correct Jonas. I believe the same about your build ideas. Necessity is the mother of inventions and you are the mother of all creations needed.lol.. You have some of the best creation ideas for practical applications that have come to us viewers in a long time. Your ideas prove that one doesn’t need to throw money at a project that is founded in a solid idea/design. The only idea I take issue in is when you chose carpeting in a hanger. It’s works great but I would worry about the spread of a fire inside the hanger or a firefighter and the toxicity level that will come from the hanger that even a small fire would create. These hanger doors all have merit in each of their designs and you have worked out the kinematics for each design and that’s 99% of the engineering involved and rest is load stress on material. Great job all around. What no Sylvia this time?? WTF we like you but we love her now that she’s a part of your life. Listen we would much rather listen to her than you babble on about hinges!! Take care and safe flying!!
Really nice to see your work.
Thank you! Cheers!
@@JonasMarcinko Also i want you to know i had a project i couldnt quite visualise and you helped me do that. I have an old 'persiana' motor and wanted to create a rolling canvas scene. I spotted a junked treadmill and thought 2 + 2 = :)
Planning a couple hangars. Great learning frm own mistakes. Really impressed by last door design. Thanks , you've saved me n team a bundle in time , money , n headspace!
May all your landings be scheduled!
Well done Jonas. I've been waiting for one of you guys that fly together to come up with a video on your hanger doors. I'm going the hydraulic route. I really like how you did the last door. Unfortunately I don't have the height for that design to open inside the hanger but it would be the cheapest and the least amount of stress on the structure as you pointed out.
You are one a amazing fellow! So much talent!
I've never built a hangar door, but I used to design man lifts and elevators. Those doors are heavy enough to squash people or shit-can an airplane. Side bar: I knew a guy that built components to re-fit all the antique hangar doors in use by the RCAF. Rumor has it that one door dropped and cut a CF-18 in half.
Good door. I need a hanger door about 36 feet wide and 9 feet high. I really think your second type would work for me. Do you have sketches of the frame and track placement? Also the gage of the corrugated metal on the outside?
Jonas following your sight I'm going try this door tried you on other platforms
Helpful video, thanks for posting it! I am planning on building a very small version (only about 7'x7') of the 2nd door in the video (the one that opened out and provides shade). I would like it to be as light as possible, provide shade when open, and be as weather tight as possible when closed. I'd appreciate hearing any tips or ideas that would help identify the best/easiest/cheapest way to accomplish that. Thanks!
7x7 would be great size for that style of door. I don’t think you’ll need any counter weight. Aluminum tubing would definitely make it light. But may not be necessary.
Good luck!
@@JonasMarcinko Thanks!
Great Vid! You must be doing something right, your channel is one of the very few I enjoy reading a lot of the comments in; there is a lot of positive feedback and great information/comments here. No worries that you haven't posted in a wee bit. You seem to be living a properly busy life! I'd rather wait for your typically well done, interesting, and informational videos than have you rush out vid's just to get something posted.
Cheers Mate!
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Cheers mate!
And Thank you very much!
Actually there is even an easier way to build a super cheap and electric opener: Counterweight welded to the hinge of the hangar door, heavy enough so there is no force needed to open it. Gear rack mounted to a pivot point onto the counterweight, driven by a worm gear unit which is also mounted on a pivot point on the wall. Actually, since these doors are relatively small, I think, with a proper gear, you may just need a lever arm which is long enough and no additional weights. That´s it.
Sounds good! I would be curious for an example. Do you know of anything out there? I’m familiar with the Hoff door which sounds similar to what you described.
Yeah it's not super loud
Door: RRREEEEEEEEE
Great video though
Interesting solutions to an expensive problem. Were you never tempted to build a hanger at home? Looking forward to your long trip, we need a few with no Oshkosh this year!
It’s definitely on my mind to build a hangar at the house. Yeah It should be good trip!
Great job on all the doors especially the last one in this video! I'm getting ready to have a hangar built and watching your videos, I might try erecting it on my own instead of paying Thousand$ to have someone else do it. I was also going to order a Higher Power door but the 30-36 week wait times is unacceptable to be without a Hangar Door.
Cool video! Would love to see another with more details on putting up the hangar itself.
HEY JONAS ! REALLY GREAT DOORS . WOW !
could you show in more detail how you have the pully system ran? I would like to do this on a smaller scale for my stilt house.
Wow! Impressive work! Bravo!
5:10 The proper term your referring to is "kinematics" :)
Excellent as usual !!!
Great job!
Great hangars,can you do a video sometime showing us the interesting airplanes within ?
This is awesome, do you remember the dimension of steel and wall thickness you used?
Nice. when you wanna build more hangar building, I may help on prefabricated steel structure. Amelia from China.
Sounds good!
Never thought I would be so interested in doors. Lmao. Awesome vid can’t wait for more aviation stuff after this virus
Love the garage door, do you have pictures of the construction so we can build one, thank you!
I wonder how many lime green Cardinals there are out there - because one like the one in the first hangar was on the ramp at KLMO yesterday..
Probably could have used a single aluminum I beam on the inside to prevent the warping. Or for light weight, a tension wire on a couple of posts to push where it's needed, but this door would need to take compression.
some things works best to make a plan and engineering first. checkout what works for other people before you spend your money!!As always enjoy your videos thanks for posting.
Absolutely!
I like the second door maybe I can fly up and check it out before I do my door
Yeah no worries. Where are you located?
Jonas Marcinko I’m in reno, home base is Spanish springs, me and a partner are the ones trying to save the N86 airport. We are making some headway now on it.
@@PaulTronier Paul is that the strip by the Rez.?
Ya it’s Spanish springs. Just east of stead airport
Hi Jonas...would u be kind enough to offer your drawing for the second door...that is just cool!
Very informative. Thank you!
Am I the only one who clicks on these videos and then can't remember if he's watching Jonas or Trent Palmer!?
It's pretty easy to tell the difference. The video without the infomercial is from Jonas. 😁
@@MadDawg91108 yeah Jonas just has more charisma too..just more enjoyable to watch for me.. more heart more passion seems like
Cool...thank you
Great video! The last hanger I owned had sliding doors which were a real pain to maintain. Sure could have used someone with your talent back then. The 12V system is really impressive as well as our strip was remote with no access to the grid. Again, great video!
My man! We need to fly Butt fans soon :D
I totally agree! I’m need of some good butt fan flying! Where are you located?
Jonas Marcinko it’s Eric Farewell, Trent introduced us at OSH. Paradigm team guy.
Based in Florida. Looking for a spot out your way. Kitfox almost finished. Butt fans for days ;)
Let’s make some fun happen before the Winter!
Jonas, Good Job 👍🏻✔️🏁
I’m really impressed even tho you don’t like that hangar door. LoL
Excellent...
Looks like you own the Hangar. I thought all these were leased mostly because they are on Airport property. Good job on the door, lots of work for something that size.
yes, I lease the land and own the hangar. Thanks!
Cool video keep it up thanks
Hold still!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
wow! your handy! I need a hanger door, wanna come build me one? I've been eyeing the foldtite stacker
I saw one once and it seemed pretty good!
Are you in Nampa airport? I am in Boise. love your videos
Kinda blah blah till the end when you showed what you had in it and the construction pics. Nice! 👍👍
I need to build a door a little smaller than this. Do you have any plans or sketches for the second door in the video?
Hey Jonas I built a door very similar to your second one but I did it out of wood 2x4s and laminated 1x4s for the horizontals. I first started with garage door tracks for the outside tracks but the rollers kept popping out. Do you have center supports or a strut for the second door? I'm thinking I need to add a strut down the center to keep mine from bowing/sagging. It being wood instead of steel is probably my issue. Thanks for posting and looking forward to your response!
What are the guides and rollers on the door?
Would you happen to have plans for that door?
Jonas, Nice video. I have a 45' x 12' opening on my wood frame hanger. I would like swap out the 4 roller panels for a door like the 2nd one you built. Does the wood header or frame need to be reinforced to utilize a door like yours? How much clearance on the 12' vertical would I loose?
Thanks,
Shawn
Grove Field, WA
1W1
Crafty
Hey Jonas I was wondering where you got your kit for the hangar? I’m interested in building a hangar and yours looked like the perfect size for us. Thanks!
If I missed in the previous comments I apologize, but can you share what size and wall thickness are the beams for the 3rd door? Thx
What size/ dimensions is the last door shown in the video? Building my own door like yours will leave me enough to upgrade my avionics of my Comanche. Which company was the Bolt-up Hangar Kit from?
12Vdc w/ solar panel charged batteries to move those huge hangar doors? I'm impressed! That's why I like your channel... flying AND building stuff. Just curious, did you go to college for an engineering degree or are you a Mike Patey type?
Thanks! glad that you enjoy it! I guess I'm a Mike Patey type. I love designing and building :)
So, in hanger #2 the people keeping their planes there, will they let you fly them? Would be interesting to see you review that PA22 and the Glassair.
I would like to build a door similar to the second or back door. Did you have a plan, how did you size counter weight, etc.? Thanks