There AFLs problem with the Buddy trade was that Sydney was using money from the Cost Of Living Allowance which meant the rest of the Sydney list wasn't getting any help with the cost of living in Sydney.
Did we ever see any evidence of this? Eddie did use his role in the media to push this accusation while still president of a rival club (without sanction from the AFL, mind you). Any evidence?
@@sammythesloth9408 the evidence was in the size of the contract. The fact that Sydney was allowed to do this deal was negligence by the AFL . The idea behind COLA was fair and reasonable but the payments should have been made by the AFL not the Sydney clubs.
@@drbosommd Wow. Some evidence. I would have thought it was up to Sydney to decide the size and length of the contract and then for the AFL to sign off on it (like all contracts). According to your conspiracy theory, if Buddy was receiving more than his share of COLA payments, then all the other players (including their player managers) that missed out on their share would have to have remained tight lipped through the course. Surely some disgruntled player would've come out by now? Ridiculous accusation by Eddie which didn't stack up even to the most basic of analysis. As for the size of his contract? If you had any idea about the Swans' list management in the next 4-6 years post signing him, you would know that a heap of players left the club - be it retirement or squeezed out - and virtually no one of note was traded in. Think Goodes, Bolton, McVeigh, Jack, Grundy, Smith, Hannebery (traded), Malceski, Mumford (squeezed), Mitchell (won a Brownlow!) and others. That is, it was a Swans list management decision to tie up their salary cap on this one bloke. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as to whether it was a success. But that's the reality. They bottomed out in 2019 and 2020 and filled their team with kids... while he as still playing (back ended deal maybe?) At least make an effort to understand the details rather than posting Eddie's nonsense without thinking. Clearly you don't follow the Swans closely, otherwise you would know about these list decisions.
Perryman won the lotto. Talk about paying overs. He needs to have a big impact to justify that salary, at GWS he wasn't in their top 10, GWS laughing they will get a first round compo, the football factory keeps rolling on.
@@sov839 When is the last time Perryman was the reason GWS won a game? He is a good avg player, 850 x 6 years, doesn't make sense. But good luck pies. I would have kept Treloar.
Perryman is a good solid choice You know what u are getting No draft or trade picks But Above average player But Hard to believe that sort of money $ 900k x 6 years
Interesting about Kelly and the Eagles.... sadly for him, the day he arrived both Shuey and Yeo were out for long periods with injuries soon after he arrived , so we never got to see the three of them play for an extended period to nick that elusive second flag. If he goes to the Dockers good luck to him.. but what will the Eagles get in return? First rounder?? Freo will be right up there next year so I think Kelly at worst gives them some class in the ranks of their depth players... at best he shines in a gun side like he did at Geelong... pick 16 or 17 sounds about right.
If collingwood are paying Perryman like heeny, Warner, serong, brayshaw, then they wouldve got a Warner, heeny, serong, Brayshaw, but they haven't because those blokes are commanding upwards of 1.2m a season now. Kane just salty he was getting 120k in his prime, and now almost anyone gets 400k
Could you be anymore ignorant, Kane has just signed probably the biggest AFL pundit ever with channel 7. He is absolutely killing it and rolling in the cash. He certainly doesn't envy them for what they're getting smh
I'm not implying Kane is jealous of the money, he could pay perrymans contract himself. The point is player salary is only going up, what was once considered a substantial contract will soon barely qualify as being average money
@tin-n-tan that is the curiosity. Either they see him as better than average, or that's what you have to pay for an average player. If any club said, I have 850k and a 6 year contract, the best player they could get probably wouldn't be in their teams best 7 players. So maybe 850k is the cost of a getting a mid tier player
We have called out these 6-8 year contracts for years now. Oliver and Petracca are the cautionary tales for these contracts. 5 years from now this will all be on another top 10 list lol
Spot on. If he had chose Port, Kane would be carrying on about how Port is a destination club and will add so much to the team. But now it's about he's massively overpaid.
I can't see a deal being done unless it was dees paying part of his salary or a re-structuring of his contract like Port will do with Lukocious, giving the same money but spread out over a longer deal or back-loaded/front loaded depending upon cap space.
I can't help but feel Fog is a win-win for Adelaide. If he stays, he'll be a good servant, but if he goes, we're likely to get disproportionate compo for him.
@MrBarry465 hes certainly an asset. Adelaide would be okay with letting go. He's no star. @adamgribble3936 Luko was paid on potential, and GC always overpay the contracts to keep players. He's worth less than Fogarty, and Luko will be paid accordingly by Power
Again Kane going at 100mph but he is right in the sense that Perryman has to set some kind of a standard. He should because he comes from a decent system.
Yeah Clay isnt worth what he's being paid..Neither is Trac if im honest .. Gawn has a couple of years left at best and I can't see the next chapter .. Having said that im 45 .. I am content with 2021 .. Let Jack Viney lead a whole new everything.. Carn the Dees 😈
Fogarty is barely a "key" forward. He is a good third tall. It is no coincindence that, this year Adelaide scored almost the same amount of points less than last year as Tex Walker did, Walker in 23 kicked 76/34 compared to 29/20, that is 296 points less. Adelaide in 2023 scored 2193 total points, in 2024 it was 1906, a difference of 287. Fogarty has had his chances to step up and be the key forward, he just isn't. Nobody is offering him big money.
@@MrBarry465 I am not saying that he wouldn't get offers, he would, but they wouldn't be huge, they would be realistic and see him as a perfect third tall, or a good second tall who can demand enough attention so opposition backs find it difficult to zone off and go third man up. He will never be the main key forward, nobody is thinking they can build a forward line around him. He doesn't get to enough contests, his second efforts are poor, he won't chase for more than 15 meters. His two way running is non existent, he has taken the ball out of defensive fifty less than ten times in his entire career. He is good overhead, in a contest and quick on short leads and one of the best shots at goal in the league from any angle when kicking from inside 50. He did kick 40+ goals this year but that was from the same amount of scoring shots as last year. There is no room for that to keep improving as it only improved by better accuracy. There is no upward trajectory in his possession count, it has been about 6 kicks and 4 handballs per game for his entire career. The only thing delusional here is the long list of teams lining up to give him $1mil/year contract.
@@spindoctor6385 A 100kg forward, 25 years old, who is skilled on both sides and has one of the best shots in the competition - would be someone that any top competing side would throw huge dollars at. You are seriously undderating him.
@@MrBarry465 Which bit am I underestimating? The bit where he averages 6 kicks per game and has shown no sign of improving since he was 20? His lack of a tank that would allow him to get to more contests? I am just realistic about what he is, do you believe he can become the main key forward target somewhere? Why haven't teams come knocking already? It is hardly standard practice to wait for free agency. I have not heard even a vague rumour about him in any trade period, yet I am supposed to believe that somebody will offer $1mil+/year to a guy that they were not willing to trade for. There are enough players out there that could be recruited to play a second or third tall role that are not going to cost the Earth. Mabior Chol this year kicked four less goals and had one extra scoring shot, and would be on about half of the $1mil being talked about.
Josh battle went to hawks for a chance for a flag before he retires and he could see how much the club has progress so quickly than expected hawks have kept plenty shell shocked battle liked what he has seen and took his chances
LOL. We know that Kane is running defence for Port losing out on another player. Kane has to pretend that Ken made Port Adelaide a "destination" club, which is why Kane targets those that rejected Ken's lame pitches - Perryman, Grundy etc.
@@jimmyriddle5246 that’s what the market dictates. Young talented big key forward in contract and port don’t want to let him go. That’s what your looking at
There AFLs problem with the Buddy trade was that Sydney was using money from the Cost Of Living Allowance which meant the rest of the Sydney list wasn't getting any help with the cost of living in Sydney.
Except the COLA was always spent like that, which made the AFL look really stupid.
And they are stupid.
Did we ever see any evidence of this? Eddie did use his role in the media to push this accusation while still president of a rival club (without sanction from the AFL, mind you). Any evidence?
@@sammythesloth9408 the evidence was in the size of the contract. The fact that Sydney was allowed to do this deal was negligence by the AFL . The idea behind COLA was fair and reasonable but the payments should have been made by the AFL not the Sydney clubs.
@@drbosommd Wow. Some evidence. I would have thought it was up to Sydney to decide the size and length of the contract and then for the AFL to sign off on it (like all contracts). According to your conspiracy theory, if Buddy was receiving more than his share of COLA payments, then all the other players (including their player managers) that missed out on their share would have to have remained tight lipped through the course. Surely some disgruntled player would've come out by now? Ridiculous accusation by Eddie which didn't stack up even to the most basic of analysis.
As for the size of his contract? If you had any idea about the Swans' list management in the next 4-6 years post signing him, you would know that a heap of players left the club - be it retirement or squeezed out - and virtually no one of note was traded in. Think Goodes, Bolton, McVeigh, Jack, Grundy, Smith, Hannebery (traded), Malceski, Mumford (squeezed), Mitchell (won a Brownlow!) and others. That is, it was a Swans list management decision to tie up their salary cap on this one bloke. Everyone is entitled to their opinion as to whether it was a success. But that's the reality.
They bottomed out in 2019 and 2020 and filled their team with kids... while he as still playing (back ended deal maybe?)
At least make an effort to understand the details rather than posting Eddie's nonsense without thinking. Clearly you don't follow the Swans closely, otherwise you would know about these list decisions.
Battle was a Hawk supporter when he was a young fella
That helps
Perryman won the lotto. Talk about paying overs. He needs to have a big impact to justify that salary, at GWS he wasn't in their top 10, GWS laughing they will get a first round compo, the football factory keeps rolling on.
Playing for the pies is like winning the lotto. Another flag coming next year
@@littletops5726 lolol
Pies fans will act like he's the key to a flag 🤡
@@sov839 When is the last time Perryman was the reason GWS won a game? He is a good avg player, 850 x 6 years, doesn't make sense. But good luck pies. I would have kept Treloar.
Perryman is a good solid choice
You know what u are getting
No draft or trade picks
But
Above average player
But
Hard to believe that sort of money $ 900k x 6 years
Interesting about Kelly and the Eagles.... sadly for him, the day he arrived both Shuey and Yeo were out for long periods with injuries soon after he arrived , so we never got to see the three of them play for an extended period to nick that elusive second flag. If he goes to the Dockers good luck to him.. but what will the Eagles get in return? First rounder?? Freo will be right up there next year so I think Kelly at worst gives them some class in the ranks of their depth players... at best he shines in a gun side like he did at Geelong... pick 16 or 17 sounds about right.
Kelly is stating that he is not going anywhere 😮
@@nevvanclarke9225 Ok... pity, we could use another young midfielder to grow alongside Harley.
If collingwood are paying Perryman like heeny, Warner, serong, brayshaw, then they wouldve got a Warner, heeny, serong, Brayshaw, but they haven't because those blokes are commanding upwards of 1.2m a season now. Kane just salty he was getting 120k in his prime, and now almost anyone gets 400k
I don’t think he is threatened by their money. He is well and truly still cashing in on AFL. He is getting as much new afl money as anyone…
Could you be anymore ignorant, Kane has just signed probably the biggest AFL pundit ever with channel 7. He is absolutely killing it and rolling in the cash. He certainly doesn't envy them for what they're getting smh
I'm not implying Kane is jealous of the money, he could pay perrymans contract himself. The point is player salary is only going up, what was once considered a substantial contract will soon barely qualify as being average money
I guess the point is that they said $500k is average player and he's getting $900k, and he's an average player. So why is he getting almost double.
@tin-n-tan that is the curiosity. Either they see him as better than average, or that's what you have to pay for an average player. If any club said, I have 850k and a 6 year contract, the best player they could get probably wouldn't be in their teams best 7 players. So maybe 850k is the cost of a getting a mid tier player
Kane’s new single is Don’t Pay the Perryman
This was good fun.
Did anyone filthy up in the Chris Tarrant trade?
I think there was filth when Daniel Bradshaw was put up for trade in 2010.
We have called out these 6-8 year contracts for years now. Oliver and Petracca are the cautionary tales for these contracts. 5 years from now this will all be on another top 10 list lol
Kane's sour grapes because Port missed out...
He said it the whole time even when port were leading the race for perryman
Spot on. If he had chose Port, Kane would be carrying on about how Port is a destination club and will add so much to the team. But now it's about he's massively overpaid.
One of the Eagles coaches got filthy at Willie Rioli (Xavier Ellis?) when he left the Eagles for Port. With a fair point too.
All that crap the Eagles went through for him and the junkie did what junkies do. Faithless.
Can see why the Cats would want Smith but Oliver on that money ???
They might try manipulate his contract alike the Bowes situation
I can't see a deal being done unless it was dees paying part of his salary or a re-structuring of his contract like Port will do with Lukocious, giving the same money but spread out over a longer deal or back-loaded/front loaded depending upon cap space.
I can't help but feel Fog is a win-win for Adelaide. If he stays, he'll be a good servant, but if he goes, we're likely to get disproportionate compo for him.
He won't get anymore than 650k over 4 years from somewhere and won't be a first round compo
@@-hobbit-9481 Delusional, Look what Lukosius is getting, Fogarty is well ahead of Lukosius
Fogarty is an untouchable, the club won't be letting him go anywhere.
makes no sense
@MrBarry465 hes certainly an asset. Adelaide would be okay with letting go. He's no star.
@adamgribble3936 Luko was paid on potential, and GC always overpay the contracts to keep players. He's worth less than Fogarty, and Luko will be paid accordingly by Power
Again Kane going at 100mph but he is right in the sense that Perryman has to set some kind of a standard. He should because he comes from a decent system.
Yeah Clay isnt worth what he's being paid..Neither is Trac if im honest .. Gawn has a couple of years left at best and I can't see the next chapter .. Having said that im 45 .. I am content with 2021 .. Let Jack Viney lead a whole new everything.. Carn the Dees 😈
Lukousis and Marshall will strike fear into oppo defences 😂 Port is finished
Lukoius is a genuine star
Fogarty is barely a "key" forward. He is a good third tall. It is no coincindence that, this year Adelaide scored almost the same amount of points less than last year as Tex Walker did, Walker in 23 kicked 76/34 compared to 29/20, that is 296 points less. Adelaide in 2023 scored 2193 total points, in 2024 it was 1906, a difference of 287. Fogarty has had his chances to step up and be the key forward, he just isn't.
Nobody is offering him big money.
Fogarty is a player that a lot of clubs would be after and you are delusional to think otherwise. Has just turned 25 and coming off a 41 goal season.
@@MrBarry465 I am not saying that he wouldn't get offers, he would, but they wouldn't be huge, they would be realistic and see him as a perfect third tall, or a good second tall who can demand enough attention so opposition backs find it difficult to zone off and go third man up. He will never be the main key forward, nobody is thinking they can build a forward line around him. He doesn't get to enough contests, his second efforts are poor, he won't chase for more than 15 meters. His two way running is non existent, he has taken the ball out of defensive fifty less than ten times in his entire career.
He is good overhead, in a contest and quick on short leads and one of the best shots at goal in the league from any angle when kicking from inside 50.
He did kick 40+ goals this year but that was from the same amount of scoring shots as last year. There is no room for that to keep improving as it only improved by better accuracy. There is no upward trajectory in his possession count, it has been about 6 kicks and 4 handballs per game for his entire career.
The only thing delusional here is the long list of teams lining up to give him $1mil/year contract.
@@spindoctor6385 A 100kg forward, 25 years old, who is skilled on both sides and has one of the best shots in the competition - would be someone that any top competing side would throw huge dollars at. You are seriously undderating him.
@@MrBarry465 Which bit am I underestimating? The bit where he averages 6 kicks per game and has shown no sign of improving since he was 20? His lack of a tank that would allow him to get to more contests? I am just realistic about what he is, do you believe he can become the main key forward target somewhere? Why haven't teams come knocking already? It is hardly standard practice to wait for free agency. I have not heard even a vague rumour about him in any trade period, yet I am supposed to believe that somebody will offer $1mil+/year to a guy that they were not willing to trade for.
There are enough players out there that could be recruited to play a second or third tall role that are not going to cost the Earth.
Mabior Chol this year kicked four less goals and had one extra scoring shot, and would be on about half of the $1mil being talked about.
@@spindoctor6385 When Fogarty was 20 he kicked 8 goals, this year he kicked 41.... How is not a clear sign of improving?
Josh battle went to hawks for a chance for a flag before he retires and he could see how much the club has progress so quickly than expected hawks have kept plenty shell shocked battle liked what he has seen and took his chances
Worpel catching strays! Sheeesh
What would 🌽 say if Perryman was at Port
He said it the whole time even when port were leading the race for perryman
@@samuelbartel3104 sweet must have missed it
He'd say that he wouldn't play midfield
It would be great to see Geelong to get caught out for cheating the salary cap lol.
Except they do not cheat the salary cap. It is one of those urban myths that they do cheat the salary cap.
Give me a full explanation on how Geelong are cheating that?, and don’t just say look at the players they might get
LOL.
We know that Kane is running defence for Port losing out on another player.
Kane has to pretend that Ken made Port Adelaide a "destination" club, which is why Kane targets those that rejected Ken's lame pitches - Perryman, Grundy etc.
Aka wasn’t even allowed in the Gabba. He had to buy a ticket at the gate to come in and watch 😮
Hope Collingwood can somehow bring in Ollie Lord.
Yea he ain’t leaving he doesn’t want to leave and port want him. If you want to get him out you’ll need 2 first rounds and more
@@samuelbartel31042 first rounds!!? You on crack?
@@jimmyriddle5246 that’s what the market dictates. Young talented big key forward in contract and port don’t want to let him go. That’s what your looking at
@@jimmyriddle5246that’s what the market dictates. Young talented big key forward in contract and port don’t want to lose him. That’s the price
@@samuelbartel3104 He’s worth a second rounder, no way a first round pick lol.
Tom Scully lied to Jim Stynes so f*** Tom Scully . We didn't miss out on much in the end anyway . He was a terrible number 1 draft pick.
Yeah, I'm sure players are coming down to play for peanuts at Geelong...sure. Look... there's a pig in the sky.
First round pick and a top tier player for Dan Houston or port should reject all offers.
Tim Kelly won't go. He has 1 to 4 years left depending on injuries. Eagles really need him as they lack the talent. So would be too much of a loss.
Last thing the league wants is another freebie to Geelong.
Joe Danihers failed Sydney move/Brisbane move pissed off bombers fans, if not the entire club... not to mention the fence sitting episode...
Geelong would turn Clarry around, bloody hope they dont get him
Funny hearing R.Lyon having a whinge, after he walked out on them years ago..
Imagine if Brisbane lost Daniher, Rayner, and Starc 😢
Would be the end of them
What was that? Everyone is running for 2nd place behind Sydney? Even your opinions are wrong😂😂😂
Id rather pay a mill a year for leek alir or Mac Andrew. Dependable, flair, and loyal.
Funny how Kane doesn't mention Port having a massive dummy spit over Nick Stevens.....
Ahhaha butters hahahahaha laughable Kane classing him as an A GRADE midfielder hahahaha
St kilda are a joke
Josh Battel has thrown HIS team under the bus ...disgraceful
I don't think so. Move past that, think about the pick 8 as compensation in this STACKED draft. Saints will be better off in long term 🎉
Yeah well at the end of the day, mark Riccuito needs to shut his mouth and should've been sacked 6 yrs ago.
Can a bloke be any more negative. His poor wife.
Turn it up Kane - James Warpel for half the money & for two years...please!
He said half what Oliver is being paid. So worpel at around 600k
Win the flag next year port.
Lol. No chance of that happening.
@@Bruce.Wallace there’s always a chance Bruce.
Nah bro
@@lukezito2628more chance of Essendon winning a final 😂
@@joshuasadler9243 that’s basically impossible