I agree with you Jake! Why are people complaining about Josh not going to the best and fairest when Wilkie said “Josh wouldn’t feel comfortable going” and plus the players would not be happy including the coaches because Josh told them he was staying and 24 - 48 hours after he signs with Hawthorn and says “sorry boys I love you all so much” that’s just pure betrayal…… Literally why is everyone going after our club with disrespect and saying that was rude of our team…. Like go and look at Richmond Baker’s and Shai Bolton’s speech….. ST KILDA were right the whole time and if people are saying we’re not right go and talk to wilkie (VICE CAPTAIN)
It’s quite annoying when because of situations regarding literally anything St Kilda does, it’s back to the same old “oh no wonder why they’re such an irrelevant club.” Either decision we make, we are hounded by the media and the general AFL fan base. We are taking a step forward to not accept mediocrity anymore and just not take shit from anyone. Whether Josh decided to not go or wasn’t invited, either way it’s done, he isn’t going to be an official St Kilda player within the next month. People will give us shit regardless of what we do, so we may as well do what we have to do to get this club the ultimate success we are all so craving for. Great video mate, keep up the content, keen to see more trade news in the next few weeks :) Go Saints!
Well said mate. I agree that he shouldn’t have to attend, I had a mate a few years ago that was leaving out footy club to go to another and he didn’t attend our best and fairest and like you said, we all met up with him and are still good mates with him, barrass said, well still be good mates and just cos he is leaving, doesn’t mean the friendships automatically stop which is exactly right
Josh kept saying "I have to think about my young family"....in other words "I Want more money" Then he goes to Hawthorn for less money? What the heck? Then he puts us in danger of not getting the best draft concession. He led us down the garden path. Yeah! We're ticked off.
Then obviously Saints fans aren't very good at reading between the lines... he was a diehard Hawks fans growing up, it was never about the money. Also, Battle can only accept what Hawthorn are willing to offer him. If they're not prepared to go a high as St Kilda's 950k offer, and they can only afford 850-900k, then what do you expect him to do? Turn it down?
@@AlbieAughtie We're talking like 50k less per year. In AFL terms, that's nothing. It sucks to lose him, but none of this is weird. Players only have 1 career, and if they're super lucky, it last 10-15 years. Put yourself in his shoes. The chance came for him to join his childhood club who look to be on a premiership trajectory, and he would've been stupid to turn it down
I thought he might of ruffled some feathers I can’t wait for the Saints take on Hawthorn it creates another story line and adds to the drama that’s why we love footy ❤️🤍🖤
When Lachie Henderson told Carlton after round 19, 2015 he was moving to Geelong he was told by Carlton to clear out his locker and he had to sit out the remainder of the season. Missing B&F meh no big deal.
It's a tough one. The Tigers players looked awkward as hell! To think Battle chose to take less money and leave and it's not like he wasn't an important part of our defence too. On the other hand maybe he just felt he was ready for a fresh start and learn new things from another club. Either way it does make you feel a bit salty towards him.
I don't like the Battle hate personally. He did right by the club by playing hard every week and putting his body on the line. Committed all year. He's allowed to move on if he wants. Don't think this is a story at all but I'd like for people not to boo every player that moves on.
@@Sleapea with you there. I think there might be space once time has moved on for us to reflect if there is anything we can do to make Saints a more attractive option as a club, but suspect it's premiership odds disadvantaging us. However, self-reflection can't hurt once the disappointment subsides.
Yep. The Battle hate is coming from supporters who are letting their emotions get the better of them. He's just a FA exercising his FA rights by going to a more attractive club, and one that he was a diehard supporter of growing up. This is just how the real world works. It's not like he had multiple years to go on his contract and just toxically forced a trade out of nowhere
Again another great Video Jake. I have to say, with Gres, he was looking like he never wanted to be there well before the b&f last year. Sadly i was at a players funcfuon just after our bye last year and he looked like he was attending a funeral. Considering the rest of the team were so happy and so essy to speak too. There was a look of dont talk to me when Gres. It wasnt plesant at all to be near him. I hope he is happier at Essendon because he certainly didn't look like he was with us. As for Battle, I think you're comments are absolutely spot on. The club is doing what is best for the club and not for media or social media nuffys out there. Go Saints ❤️🤍🖤
I spoke to Sebby about his future and he said "Im not looking for another club Im sort of glad I dont have to look towards another preseason." so it seems as if mentally and a bit physically he was towards the end anyway.
@@MrTimtam1999I spoke to Seb at a players function event 6 weeks before the end of the season. Definitely wasn't the case back then. He was hoping to get another year and was more than ready to do the work for another pre season. He felt he has played better footy this year than he had for a while. I think now it's the case he has had sometime to get use to the idea. Seb is a very humble guy and I think he is okay with it He would never ever speak ill of the club. He loves the club too much and just shows what kind of person he is. I believe he respects the decision that has been made and seems to have made peace with it. Go Saints ❤️🤍🖤
It's a bit like inviting your ex to your wedding, I know some people do it and feel ok, but in my experience and on balance, probably better for everyone moving forward to not be there.
You're on same page as me, mate. I reflected after my comment and first watch "I've gone into mediating between the acrimoniously divorced parents" state. Just want everyone to feel loved and valued, but it can be very awkward and not always worth it.
Haha it's absolutely nothing like this. These people are supposed to be professionals. It's their job. It honestly makes St.Kilda look toxic. If i were a prospective employee (a player) i would certainly be concerned of a toxic work environment.
Thanks for clarification. Would have liked a Barrass situation and to occupy this space. How do we create a culture where a player who may no longer play for us is able to still be on good terms with players and club as a whole? Sux that the bitterness on matters of "business" affect relationships with players. It's not really totally on Battle how much Hawthorn are willing to pay and you could say "he should have looked after us", but ultimately, we do treat players as dismissable or disposable when it suits us, so sometimes it doesn't work out in our favour. I do hope we might be the kind of club players do a "Gaddard" or "Dal" and return to. I think we should try to keep the door open, however aware we don't want to cause further acrimony, so guess it might be a judgement call by those in the know.
Well said. I don’t like the way players are treated at all. Some players get everything including the kitchen sink thrown at them, others don’t. If Josh Battle was being paid what he was worth in the first place, the door wouldn’t have been left ajar for Hawthorn. It’s funny, St.kilda do the same thing. They try and get players from other clubs, but that’s okay. I hope he doesn’t get targeted, he just wanted to move on.
Only because Baker and Bolton decided to make them rough to watch. Both of them won flags with that club, they definitely could've prepared better speeches and sounded more grateful for their time at the club if they wanted to
Barass definitely spoke much better than the Richmond boys at their b&f, however it's still disappointing to see him and Battle hide behind the guise of 'family'. Barass is a Perth native and I'm sure was on good money at WC. Same goes for Battle who is leaving for a club whose training facilities are just down the road from the Saints and are offering him less money. Family should always come first but please don't hide behind family if that isn't your true motive for leaving a club..
3 sides to every story yours theirs and somewhere in between is the truth just like the Ross Lyon story we were sold wasn't the truth and when RTB came out and gave his story NO-ONE at the club said publicly Ross that's bullshit! soo the whole story will come out about this but it seemed obvious when he asked to run thru the banner with his kids that he was leaving but to then tell the club and teammates that you were staying. wow just wow. no point keeping a player who doesn't want to be there, good luck to him but i hope he gets what Buckley got by leaving Brisbane to play in a premiership team nothing but disappointmenz
Is it possible that Josh Battle chose to take less money from Sam Mitchell and Hawthorn and knows that by doing that, St.Kilda won't be getting a good draft pick compensation ?
The thing is Josh Battle knew he was going to go to hawthorn mid year yet he made the belief to Steele , to Rose , and to most others that he wasn't going anywhere else , he virtually stabbed the club in the back , l say we can do well without him , go saints 2025
Seriously, who cares what the media clowns are saying? Club is moving in the right direction. So much happening in the restructure of our footy department. That's all that matters. Keep the faith. Hopefully, we get pick 8 (I think that's what Bassett was on about), draft 2 great young mids, build a core for the next few years, make finals, and then the players will come. Our 04-11 era was built around that core of kids we drafted. Battle's departure will prove to be a blessing, just as Gresham's was.
I think the club did the right thing. I just hope we get the right compensation for him. Loved the way he played but very disappointed in the way he left.
Common procedeure is in most companies when key employee resignation is accepted you are shown the door.This is a standard practice and is common in most companies with public exposure.
Also his taken less money to go to hawthorn than what St Kilda offered him , what does that tell you ? , he wants to go to a team that he thinks will be finals contenders and thinking St Kilda won't , so all this he says about his heart was with St Kilda was definitely not true
People are having a dig because Battle wasn't mentioned in the departing player speech. Isn't he still technically on the list until he signs elsewhere so he's not a former player yet
your so worried about his speech like the richmond players but josh speaks well he could of send a message of just thankyou to the fans and had his say on his choices to leave instead of speculation, it’s the fact he didn’t get a choice in attending the bnf leave the decision up to him to go or not because that man was the toughest one on our list and earned respect the hard way by body on the line playing in the ruck when guys went down and sacrificing a mainstay position to swing forward and back and the club is a shambles to already forget that by “uninviting him” he deserved a send off with his mates because it’s not his move was for money it was for family
Andrew Bassat knows the outside perception of St Kilda is that we are an inferior club with an inferiority complex that can be pushed around too easily by other clubs, so I hail his line in the sand moment, get more serious and fair dinkum. Your either with us or not welcome at all.
We get clowned by the public either way, the way other clubs fans and media have carried on about us in the last couple days is embarrassing 😅 RENT FREE
what would have happened had Battle won the BandF. The fact of the matter is that you extend an invitation. its like at a concert. even if you do not like the song or opera you still clap out of courtesy. what the other clubs do is irrelevant to Stkilda. He should have been extended an invite and then let him him decide. We loved a few weeks ago. He has made a decision that he is entitled to. Never mind, lets move on. Whats done is done. I think there is a bigger issue. Being offered more money, why didn't stay? That is the question which needs to be answered. :)
@MX51959 I thought of premierships and odds of this being greater elsewhere, which just feels like an argument that's hard to win for us right now, then a vicious cycle of continued difficulty retaining a sense of hope amongst experienced players.
It's hard to go to something when you get told NOT to go but sure let's blame Josh instead of Bassat who told Josh NOT to go. Wilkie just toed the company line instead of defending his so called "friend"
Kind of disagree here. If he was invited and elected not to come, no worries. If he wasn't invited at all after years of service. Its pretty poor firm. Especially seeing as he polled so well.
If it's true that he was told not to attend then I think it's unprofessional of the club. If it's ok for a club to delist a player then it's equally ok for a player to move on. There should be no hard feelings. Times have changed.
Because Battle agreed to stay then TEXT. That’s gotta be it. That’s childish and weak. I’d be embarrassed to show my head leaving a job doing that, let alone sit and drink with people I don’t respect enough to have a chat with. Totally fine with the ruthlessness.
The guy played his heart out with his teammates until his very last game... maybe he does respect them, and maybe the entire thing was just super awkward for him. Obviously you haven't thought about that, have ya?
It's not ok it's embarrassing. However the most embarrassing thing I've heard today was that muppet Dan Hannerbury trying to explain his way out of leathlean and himself ripping us off the whole interview made me sick.
Disrespectful to a guy who has put his heart and soul into the club and players leave all the time and the club gets players into the club and we had Joe Richards in and he did a speech for winning the best young player
I disagree he should have been invited to the best and f last night Evan though we will be a hawk next year he would’ve have been invited to see our the year as a saint
You are getting wound up and emotional perhaps because you the wrong thing was done. Or that you are upset that Battle left and you will not ask the hard questions why because you already know the answer!
No it’s not. He was dishonest on the way out, left for less money and will potentially cost us getting a high compensation pick for him because of it. It’s about time we got a harder edge.
@@darkmatter7301 dishonest because he left for less money?, you uninvited him from the bnf, only dishonesty here is from St Kilda, it’s not a hard edge, it’s an immature act
@@Jeepers234 dishonest because he made out as though he was leaving for his family. Eg. A better opportunity elsewhere financially. He’s moving for less money! He also lead the club to think he was staying right to the last minute. If you want respect you front up and actually be honest about why you are leaving and don’t lead people on. The other thing is simply loyalty in general. It’s his choice to leave 100% but he’s part of a group who are working together and trying to build towards something. He had a choice to make a statement and stay the course with that group that have been working towards that for years. He chose to leave, so you actually don’t want that sort of person around. The bond is now broken. No hard feelings but that’s your choice, we are therefore moving on too. I think it’s a reasonable stance from the club but that’s just my personal opinion, if yours is different your call. 👍
No I'm sorry,but it's a disgrace that he was told not to come to the b+f. He played his guts out for us this year probably already knowing he was going to leave to be 3rd in the b+f is outstanding. I was as pissed off as anybody when he walked but i and no doubt you guy's would if you had the chance to play for the club you've always barracked for,we didnt can Higgins for leaving the tigers to come to us. Sour grapes for mind along with the president speech
The point people are trying to make about this is it isnt even about josh or the saints players or the bnf tally, its about the look of it to future incoming players. Storm in a tea cup though i agree.
I agree with you Jake! Why are people complaining about Josh not going to the best and fairest when Wilkie said “Josh wouldn’t feel comfortable going” and plus the players would not be happy including the coaches because Josh told them he was staying and 24 - 48 hours after he signs with Hawthorn and says “sorry boys I love you all so much” that’s just pure betrayal…… Literally why is everyone going after our club with disrespect and saying that was rude of our team…. Like go and look at Richmond Baker’s and Shai Bolton’s speech….. ST KILDA were right the whole time and if people are saying we’re not right go and talk to wilkie (VICE CAPTAIN)
🔴 ⚪️ ⚫️ That's it. Life goes on. Here's to 2025. Go Saints!!!
It’s quite annoying when because of situations regarding literally anything St Kilda does, it’s back to the same old “oh no wonder why they’re such an irrelevant club.” Either decision we make, we are hounded by the media and the general AFL fan base. We are taking a step forward to not accept mediocrity anymore and just not take shit from anyone. Whether Josh decided to not go or wasn’t invited, either way it’s done, he isn’t going to be an official St Kilda player within the next month. People will give us shit regardless of what we do, so we may as well do what we have to do to get this club the ultimate success we are all so craving for. Great video mate, keep up the content, keen to see more trade news in the next few weeks :)
Go Saints!
Well said Jake. Could not agree with you more. When you're out you're out
Well said mate. I agree that he shouldn’t have to attend, I had a mate a few years ago that was leaving out footy club to go to another and he didn’t attend our best and fairest and like you said, we all met up with him and are still good mates with him, barrass said, well still be good mates and just cos he is leaving, doesn’t mean the friendships automatically stop which is exactly right
Glad our club is getting ruthless,bye don't let the door hit you in the arse. If you're out you are out.
Josh kept saying "I have to think about my young family"....in other words "I Want more money"
Then he goes to Hawthorn for less money? What the heck?
Then he puts us in danger of not getting the best draft concession.
He led us down the garden path.
Yeah! We're ticked off.
Then obviously Saints fans aren't very good at reading between the lines... he was a diehard Hawks fans growing up, it was never about the money. Also, Battle can only accept what Hawthorn are willing to offer him. If they're not prepared to go a high as St Kilda's 950k offer, and they can only afford 850-900k, then what do you expect him to do? Turn it down?
@@TNT_12taking less money for your family to play for a team because you followed them growing up is weird no matter how you look at it.
@@AlbieAughtie We're talking like 50k less per year. In AFL terms, that's nothing. It sucks to lose him, but none of this is weird. Players only have 1 career, and if they're super lucky, it last 10-15 years. Put yourself in his shoes. The chance came for him to join his childhood club who look to be on a premiership trajectory, and he would've been stupid to turn it down
Thanks Jake, I think the club made the right call. Battle has walked away from us, it would have been awkward for all
I thought he might of ruffled some feathers I can’t wait for the Saints take on Hawthorn it creates another story line and adds to the drama that’s why we love footy ❤️🤍🖤
Why invite someone who doesn't want to be their he left for less money
When Lachie Henderson told Carlton after round 19, 2015 he was moving to Geelong he was told by Carlton to clear out his locker and he had to sit out the remainder of the season. Missing B&F meh no big deal.
It's a tough one. The Tigers players looked awkward as hell! To think Battle chose to take less money and leave and it's not like he wasn't an important part of our defence too. On the other hand maybe he just felt he was ready for a fresh start and learn new things from another club. Either way it does make you feel a bit salty towards him.
I don't like the Battle hate personally. He did right by the club by playing hard every week and putting his body on the line. Committed all year. He's allowed to move on if he wants. Don't think this is a story at all but I'd like for people not to boo every player that moves on.
Very well said
@@Sleapea with you there. I think there might be space once time has moved on for us to reflect if there is anything we can do to make Saints a more attractive option as a club, but suspect it's premiership odds disadvantaging us. However, self-reflection can't hurt once the disappointment subsides.
Yep. The Battle hate is coming from supporters who are letting their emotions get the better of them. He's just a FA exercising his FA rights by going to a more attractive club, and one that he was a diehard supporter of growing up. This is just how the real world works. It's not like he had multiple years to go on his contract and just toxically forced a trade out of nowhere
Time to stop giving a rats what others think of us. He’s no longer a contracted player, end of discussion!
The very next morning Josh Battle posted he was going on a holiday with his family. don't think he is too bothered by not being invited.
Again another great Video Jake.
I have to say, with Gres, he was looking like he never wanted to be there well before the b&f last year.
Sadly i was at a players funcfuon just after our bye last year and he looked like he was attending a funeral.
Considering the rest of the team were so happy and so essy to speak too.
There was a look of dont talk to me when Gres. It wasnt plesant at all to be near him.
I hope he is happier at Essendon because he certainly didn't look like he was with us.
As for Battle, I think you're comments are absolutely spot on. The club is doing what is best for the club and not for media or social media nuffys out there.
Go Saints ❤️🤍🖤
I thought Seb Ross was brave to be interviewed. His situation was slightly awkward too 🤔
I spoke to Sebby about his future and he said "Im not looking for another club Im sort of glad I dont have to look towards another preseason." so it seems as if mentally and a bit physically he was towards the end anyway.
@@MrTimtam1999 thanks for sharing. This actually feels comforting to know.
@@MrTimtam1999I spoke to Seb at a players function event 6 weeks before the end of the season.
Definitely wasn't the case back then. He was hoping to get another year and was more than ready to do the work for another pre season.
He felt he has played better footy this year than he had for a while.
I think now it's the case he has had sometime to get use to the idea. Seb is a very humble guy and I think he is okay with it
He would never ever speak ill of the club. He loves the club too much and just shows what kind of person he is.
I believe he respects the decision that has been made and seems to have made peace with it.
Go Saints ❤️🤍🖤
He must have known he was going to coach Colac @@MrTimtam1999
It's a bit like inviting your ex to your wedding, I know some people do it and feel ok, but in my experience and on balance, probably better for everyone moving forward to not be there.
You're on same page as me, mate. I reflected after my comment and first watch "I've gone into mediating between the acrimoniously divorced parents" state. Just want everyone to feel loved and valued, but it can be very awkward and not always worth it.
Haha it's absolutely nothing like this. These people are supposed to be professionals. It's their job. It honestly makes St.Kilda look toxic. If i were a prospective employee (a player) i would certainly be concerned of a toxic work environment.
@@jmac8470 Maybe, but we are all still human beings with feelings.
Thanks for clarification. Would have liked a Barrass situation and to occupy this space. How do we create a culture where a player who may no longer play for us is able to still be on good terms with players and club as a whole? Sux that the bitterness on matters of "business" affect relationships with players. It's not really totally on Battle how much Hawthorn are willing to pay and you could say "he should have looked after us", but ultimately, we do treat players as dismissable or disposable when it suits us, so sometimes it doesn't work out in our favour. I do hope we might be the kind of club players do a "Gaddard" or "Dal" and return to. I think we should try to keep the door open, however aware we don't want to cause further acrimony, so guess it might be a judgement call by those in the know.
Well said. I don’t like the way players are treated at all. Some players get everything including the kitchen sink thrown at them, others don’t. If Josh Battle was being paid what he was worth in the first place, the door wouldn’t have been left ajar for Hawthorn. It’s funny, St.kilda do the same thing. They try and get players from other clubs, but that’s okay. I hope he doesn’t get targeted, he just wanted to move on.
Difference is that Barrass played in a premiership with his club. He was open and sincere and didn't come across as a flog like the Richmond guys.
Out of contract player leaves and club says don’t come to a B and F, think it’s a bad look for any club mate
Geez… those Richmond speeches were rough to watch. 😬
Only because Baker and Bolton decided to make them rough to watch. Both of them won flags with that club, they definitely could've prepared better speeches and sounded more grateful for their time at the club if they wanted to
Barass definitely spoke much better than the Richmond boys at their b&f, however it's still disappointing to see him and Battle hide behind the guise of 'family'. Barass is a Perth native and I'm sure was on good money at WC. Same goes for Battle who is leaving for a club whose training facilities are just down the road from the Saints and are offering him less money. Family should always come first but please don't hide behind family if that isn't your true motive for leaving a club..
yep a lie is a lie and nothing will change that
3 sides to every story yours theirs and somewhere in between is the truth
just like the Ross Lyon story we were sold wasn't the truth and when RTB came out and gave his story NO-ONE at the club said publicly Ross that's bullshit!
soo the whole story will come out about this but it seemed obvious when he asked to run thru the banner with his kids that he was leaving
but to then tell the club and teammates that you were staying. wow just wow.
no point keeping a player who doesn't want to be there, good luck to him but i hope he gets what Buckley got by leaving Brisbane to play in a premiership team
nothing but disappointmenz
Is it possible that Josh Battle chose to take less money from Sam Mitchell and Hawthorn and knows that by doing that, St.Kilda won't be getting a good draft pick compensation ?
No longer a St Kilda player. If you dont want to play with them, OK go your own way.
Well said, Jake. Yet another silly beat up from the AFaiL media 🙄
The thing is Josh Battle knew he was going to go to hawthorn mid year yet he made the belief to Steele , to Rose , and to most others that he wasn't going anywhere else , he virtually stabbed the club in the back , l say we can do well without him , go saints 2025
Correct. Same situation as Luke Ball.
Seriously, who cares what the media clowns are saying? Club is moving in the right direction. So much happening in the restructure of our footy department. That's all that matters. Keep the faith.
Hopefully, we get pick 8 (I think that's what Bassett was on about), draft 2 great young mids, build a core for the next few years, make finals, and then the players will come. Our 04-11 era was built around that core of kids we drafted.
Battle's departure will prove to be a blessing, just as Gresham's was.
I think the club did the right thing. I just hope we get the right compensation for him. Loved the way he played but very disappointed in the way he left.
Very good analysis as always Jake, if only half the afl world were as logical as you
I just hate it when good players leave St Kilda.
Common procedeure is in most companies when key employee resignation is accepted you are shown the door.This is a standard practice and is common in most companies with public exposure.
Wasnt convinced to begin with but i actually think you are right. Sounds like it would have been the wrong move for both parties if he was there.
Also his taken less money to go to hawthorn than what St Kilda offered him , what does that tell you ? , he wants to go to a team that he thinks will be finals contenders and thinking St Kilda won't , so all this he says about his heart was with St Kilda was definitely not true
People are having a dig because Battle wasn't mentioned in the departing player speech. Isn't he still technically on the list until he signs elsewhere so he's not a former player yet
your so worried about his speech like the richmond players but josh speaks well he could of send a message of just thankyou to the fans and had his say on his choices to leave instead of speculation, it’s the fact he didn’t get a choice in attending the bnf leave the decision up to him to go or not because that man was the toughest one on our list and earned respect the hard way by body on the line playing in the ruck when guys went down and sacrificing a mainstay position to swing forward and back and the club is a shambles to already forget that by “uninviting him” he deserved a send off with his mates because it’s not his move was for money it was for family
Agree 100%.
Andrew Bassat knows the outside perception of St Kilda is that we are an inferior club with an inferiority complex that can be pushed around too easily by other clubs, so I hail his line in the sand moment, get more serious and fair dinkum. Your either with us or not welcome at all.
We get clowned by the public either way, the way other clubs fans and media have carried on about us in the last couple days is embarrassing 😅 RENT FREE
what would have happened had Battle won the BandF. The fact of the matter is that you extend an invitation. its like at a concert. even if you do not like the song or opera you still clap out of courtesy. what the other clubs do is irrelevant to Stkilda. He should have been extended an invite and then let him him decide. We loved a few weeks ago. He has made a decision that he is entitled to. Never mind, lets move on. Whats done is done. I think there is a bigger issue. Being offered more money, why didn't stay? That is the question which needs to be answered. :)
@MX51959 "why didn't he stay" being the real question-you are so right there.💯💯
@@macherie1275 I can only speculate. The only thing I will say is that I do not understand why StKilda employed Lyon again.
@MX51959 I thought of premierships and odds of this being greater elsewhere, which just feels like an argument that's hard to win for us right now, then a vicious cycle of continued difficulty retaining a sense of hope amongst experienced players.
It's hard to go to something when you get told NOT to go but sure let's blame Josh instead of Bassat who told Josh NOT to go. Wilkie just toed the company line instead of defending his so called "friend"
The media has it out for us!
Jack Sinclair gonna play for next year❤️🤍🖤
Mistake
If I was Battle, I wouldn't have turned up either...
Kind of disagree here. If he was invited and elected not to come, no worries. If he wasn't invited at all after years of service. Its pretty poor firm. Especially seeing as he polled so well.
If it's true that he was told not to attend then I think it's unprofessional of the club.
If it's ok for a club to delist a player then it's equally ok for a player to move on.
There should be no hard feelings.
Times have changed.
Because Battle agreed to stay then TEXT. That’s gotta be it. That’s childish and weak. I’d be embarrassed to show my head leaving a job doing that, let alone sit and drink with people I don’t respect enough to have a chat with. Totally fine with the ruthlessness.
The guy played his heart out with his teammates until his very last game... maybe he does respect them, and maybe the entire thing was just super awkward for him. Obviously you haven't thought about that, have ya?
@@TNT_12 cool, then don’t cry about coming. If he doesn’t care, why does anyone else?
It's not ok it's embarrassing.
However the most embarrassing thing I've heard today was that muppet Dan Hannerbury trying to explain his way out of leathlean and himself ripping us off the whole interview made me sick.
Disrespectful to a guy who has put his heart and soul into the club and players leave all the time and the club gets players into the club and we had Joe Richards in and he did a speech for winning the best young player
Battle is old Saints news. Move on.
This time of the year the few days leading up to the trade period they will makes news out of anything
I disagree he should have been invited to the best and f last night Evan though we will be a hawk next year he would’ve have been invited to see our the year as a saint
Josh didn’t leave for money
That Richmond clip is awful
You are getting wound up and emotional perhaps because you the wrong thing was done. Or that you are upset that Battle left and you will not ask the hard questions why because you already know the answer!
So immature, no wonder can't win a flag. Can't even respect a players choice to move on. Says a lot about Saints Club culture.
Pox act from the club
No it’s not. He was dishonest on the way out, left for less money and will potentially cost us getting a high compensation pick for him because of it. It’s about time we got a harder edge.
@@darkmatter7301 dishonest because he left for less money?, you uninvited him from the bnf, only dishonesty here is from St Kilda, it’s not a hard edge, it’s an immature act
@@Jeepers234 dishonest because he made out as though he was leaving for his family. Eg. A better opportunity elsewhere financially. He’s moving for less money! He also lead the club to think he was staying right to the last minute. If you want respect you front up and actually be honest about why you are leaving and don’t lead people on.
The other thing is simply loyalty in general. It’s his choice to leave 100% but he’s part of a group who are working together and trying to build towards something. He had a choice to make a statement and stay the course with that group that have been working towards that for years. He chose to leave, so you actually don’t want that sort of person around. The bond is now broken. No hard feelings but that’s your choice, we are therefore moving on too.
I think it’s a reasonable stance from the club but that’s just my personal opinion, if yours is different your call. 👍
No I'm sorry,but it's a disgrace that he was told not to come to the b+f. He played his guts out for us this year probably already knowing he was going to leave to be 3rd in the b+f is outstanding. I was as pissed off as anybody when he walked but i and no doubt you guy's would if you had the chance to play for the club you've always barracked for,we didnt can Higgins for leaving the tigers to come to us. Sour grapes for mind along with the president speech
Sulkiest club, no wonder they don't and won't go anywhere, shocking club
The point people are trying to make about this is it isnt even about josh or the saints players or the bnf tally, its about the look of it to future incoming players. Storm in a tea cup though i agree.
#ThanksBatts #NoLimits 🤎💛🤎💛🤎💛🤎💛💯