the COLT POLICE POSITIVE
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2020
- Today we bring you another classic firearm by Colt.
There was a time when the Police Positive was in the widespread use amongst law enforcement agencies all over the United States and various parts of the world. Today we will provide you a close look at this gun, and shoot it as well. For a 92-year-old revolver, this one shoots remarkably well.
I have included a link which gives a very good detailed history including variants and calibers
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_... - Розваги
Glad to see that fine old mechanically sound revolver landed in the hands of a shooter, Dave, rather than being put on display in a museum, or worse yet, locked away where it would never see the light of day or be taken out for a bit of fun in the field or at the range.
Mr. David, thanks so much for showing your Colt Police Positive Special. The old saying that they no longer make em like this is so evident with your Colt. I would mention this in passing, you may already be aware of this Colt history lesson I'm about to share. I will make it short. Your trigger-action was hand-honed and hand-fitted by a Colt Master Craftsman. The precise fitting of the side-plate to the frame is unmatched. The Colt Factory blue finish (back then-not now) was another big plus for pre-war Colts. The Police Positive Special and Colt Official Police in .38 Special were the Heavyweight Champs in cop service revolvers. In the pre-war years the Colt Revolver stood at the top for large handgun contracts with mid-to-large size PD's. I carried both in the 80's as my on-duty service revolver. I would use the small frame Police Positive Special when working desk duty or court security. It was light on the hip at 23-ounces and as I got older, I came to appreciate the compact, reliable, and lightweight Police Positive Special (PPS) over my OP. Both Colts had the 4-inch barrel and was in blue steel. I used the black rubber Pachmayr Presentation Grips that fit my gun-hand perfect and allowed me close groups on the target. My PPS was a 1960's made Colt, with those excellent fixed sights that allowed for a "quick" target acquisition, an issue so important for a cop back in the day when we were allowed to defend ourselves. Today's guys and gals in blue pack semi-autos and have totally missed out on the great trigger of an old Colt. Most of them have never shot a revolver, let alone carry one on duty or off. Anyway thanks so much for this video on a "classic" Colt PPS. It brought back warm memories for an old retired cop!
What an awesome find David, these guns were so popular when I was a kid. That actually appeals more too me than a Python does and the wear just makes them more comfortable like an old pair of jeans. Good video keep them coming. 🇺🇸
I have my grandfathers 1922 Army Special with nickel finish. The Army Special was later called the Official Police model. He carried it as his sidearm with the Chicago police until the late 50’s. Still shoots great!
I bought a Colt army special in good condition for being 101 years old it is in 32-20 and was made in 1923 nice old revolvers I have to get dies so I can load for it all them old Colts from that time was nicely made
True quality in a firearm. Thank you for sharing. Peace
I would've had to snatch it up. I love old guns. Old ✓ common ammo ✓ Functions fine ✓ Great price ✓
Very nice video Dave and we love those older revolvers.Thanks for the video.
I have one from 1931. One of my favorites. I wish someone would produce these revolvers again. Love the size and weight. 22-23 ounces. That's a steel gun as well.
Once again you have made a great video! Good to see you actually shooting it! Awesome!
I really like the look of the exposed ejecta Rod on these old revolves
Cool to see others are still out there. I have one in 38S&W, was given to me by my grandfather. He carried it on duty. It's in fantastic condition. Its unbelievably accurate, esp with 148gr HBWC's, (very fun cartridge to reload). Always wanted the bigger brother in 38spl to go with it though, maybe one day... 🤔. Great revolver. Thanks for sharing it, really cool 👍.
Hi, David. Great piece of history. Old firearms fitted by gunsmith are works of art that stand the test of time. I have an old S&W pre model 10 made in roughly 1949 that is pristine. This firearm was made in the millions over it's lifetime. Not particularly a valuable firearm, but a piece of history and a testament to gunsmith manufactured works of art. I have watched your videos on the Colt Trooper MKlll'S. That particular model is the first revolver I ever purchased. It was a great firearm. I happened to find one used in New condition at a local gun store, expensive but nostalgia got the better of me and I bought it. It had timing issues and cyclinder locking slop that I did not find acceptable to me. The issues were easily resolved by Jack First replacement Hand, Hand Spring, and a new to the gun used Bolt. The gun is now absolutely mechanically superb. It is an extremely fun shooter. I could go on forever, but I am in the process of improving function of a couple of new S&W revolvers with POWER CUSTOM BRAND parts made for S&W revolvers. By the way these are high quality great parts. Sometimes drop in sometimes need a little fitting. Great videos!
Great gun,
Just an awesome gun! If only it could talk and tell all of its stories!
Prior to this I never knew why they were called "Positive." Great lesson on that safety feature. Thanks.
Awesome 👍 nothing wrong with old school
I love revolvers, specifically snubbys but 4” guns find there way into my safe from time to time. I definitely want PPS to enjoy for a while. Thanks for sharing.
One of my favorite Film Noir guns! See?
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Had one a few years back chambered in .38 SPL that was made in 1929. Traded it to get another firearm. Wish I still had it.
I have become spoiled by the craftsmanship of those older guns. I would imagine to produce those today would cost a fortune. Nice video, thanks!
The official police retains that transfer-bar safety you pointed out on the Police Positive. Great share, thanks.
I have one with a 6 inch barrel made in 1920 , I love it!!!
I've got a 1928 also, belonged to my grandfather, father and now me. Very nice condition, haven't shot it in a very long time, but hope to remedy that soon.
Nice piece. I just picked one up that the serial puts at 1916 manufacture date. A quick question, what loads were you running through it. Given these are really old firearms, I realize +P is a bad idea. But trying to figure out what would be an acceptable weight and FPS to run through these fun little revolvers.
Nice!
These are a nice sized revolver, compact. I have them in .22lr, .22 WRF, and .32-20, all in quite nice condition. No .38s though. Mine have 6 inch barrels.
I have four of them, .22lr, .22WRF, .32lc, and 32-20. They all lock up tight as a Colt should. They are a good size for smaller calibers, mine are all 6" revolvers. Actually, if the Detective Special is included five, just got a Series 3.
I have a 1919 in .32 Long with a long barrel. Lovely little gun, and I'd love to get one in .38 Special. Maybe even aPocket Positive with the shorter barrel, or a Detective Special.
Lucky deal on the screws. That's one thing I make sure to check. I've seen some roached out screw slots before
For sure. The finish is a different story tho haha
My Police Positive in 38 S&W is a 1926 model according to the serial number and Colt's online records. It has the rounded cylinder release so 1928 was not the first year of that feature change. I also have a Model 1909 .45 Long Colt with the older style flat release which also had part of the serial number on it. So I know the difference. I wish I has the 38 Special instead. It is too bad the Police Positive is no longer made. It was such a wonderful revolver in most cases, the 38 S&W possibly being the exception because of the boring in 38 Special.
Nice revolver, and I'm sure you'll have fun with it.
I have a S&W K frame 38 made in 1947. The design at that point had one annoying feature that detracts from shooting well, and I'm curious if your Colt has the same. Once the hammer drops and rotates that little bit farther forward the hammer spur comes up and blocks the sight picture. You can't check you follow through, or even see the sights until the trigger is released and the hammer drops back into is resting position. Later K frames have a different hammer design that doesn't do this.
The hammer stops a bit shy of the rear sight picture fortunately.
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If you dive deep into Google about this pistol, you will learn that Colt used 38 Special bore tooling dimensions on this pistol, probably as a cost saving measure. They were known to do that on Army contracts too. The diameter of the bore and forcing cone from the Colt blueprints are posted in forums and match 38 Special dimensions. Colt stated that the forcing cone could take care of the .004 inch difference between a 38 Special bullet and the 38 S&W. This results in a lot of lead dust in the air. I have a 1926 Police Positive and I slugged my bore and I can confirm this. This makes it difficult to reload. .360 -.361 bullets won't fit. Colt got away with it because bullets were soft lead back then and often had hollow bases that would conform. That is not the case today with hard cast lead and coated bullets. I would be very concerned about using the 1000 fps Buffalo Bore loading for this 38S&W revolver. They claim it is safe in this revolver but I question that. Other modern loadings are mild due to all the top latch revolvers. But even they may not be safe in the PP. Do your research. Do some testing if you dare. Find out what bullets and reloading dies are best with this gun and report back. You would be doing all unaware Police Positive owners a service. I don't know if Colt changed over to correct SAAMI dimensions in second generation pistols after 1928. Perhaps some owners would know. I inherited mine without ammo which is impossible to find. When I looked into reloading, I found issues with both the dies and the bullets available. How do you reload for this pistol and keep things safe?
What would a fair price be for an excellent condition pre 1920 sample be?
I find it interesting they would put checkering/texturing on the BACK side of the cylinder latch… makes no sense to me… am I missing something?
Sir, if the serial number starts with 59-xxxxx, does it mean it was manufactured in 1959? Big thanks.
GOD BLESS!
Can it handle +P ammunition ?
How much original condition revolvar
Don't get me wrong , I love classic revolvers, including the historical
Colt .38 Police Positive Special revolver. If I inherited this handgun I'd take
it in a flash. However compared to the Ruger SP-101 revolver I write about
below the Colt PPS tends to be antiquated in both lock work and metallurgy. I
prefer a much more modern revolver. Warranties on these old revolvers ran
out (expired) generations back. And perhaps replacement parts may be difficult to locate
today, I don't really know? When I purchased the revolver below in May 2020
it came with both a warranty and lock box. The Ruger SP-101 is built like a
tank and is "hell for stout!" Just my thoughts. ---Jim Farmer Klamath County, Oregon
Lake County Examiner: Lakeview, Oregon: Wednesday, March 24,
2021/Letters To The Editor
Letter to the editor: Best general-purpose handgun
For a general-purpose handgun consider Ruger’s SP-101 .357 Magnum
revolver: “stainless steel”, 5 shot swing out cylinder
(double-action), with 4.2” barrel and target sights for the citizen
owning only one handgun. Versatile for "self-defense/house
protection/concealed carry", as a kit and trail gun for the
outdoorsman/ sportsman, and for urban metro vs. wilderness rural use.
At 30 oz. unloaded lightweight (for the hiker, backpacker, trapper),
yet heavy enough to handle the .357 Magnum. Loaded with .38 Special
148 grain lead target wad-cutter ammo (next to a .22 or .32) practical
for hunting small game: rabbit, squirrel, and grouse (for the campfire
skillet), for dispatching vermin such as raccoon, skunk, possum, etc.
Even for butchering livestock such as cattle with a head shot. Loaded
with CCI's classic .38 Special shot or snake load of No. 9 shot highly
effective in killing rattlesnakes. Readily and instantly accessible in
reach via a nightstand, dresser or bureau drawer, or next to a
sleeping bag inside a tent is very comforting armed security to have,
especially at night!
This handgun would also be great for a long-haul trucker, or hay
hauler, to carry. Even for the motorist traveling on a road trip. Yes,
bear in mind being broken down, stranded, and having to spend the
night alone in your vehicle. This .38/.357 revolver combination along
with an Atomic Beam Flashlight, survival knife, fresh drinking water,
food, toilet paper, shovel, matches, wool blanket, etc. could
certainly take back the night.
Even for a woman it's smaller frame and size would still fit her
smaller hands. And firing.38 Special ammo in this .*357 Magnum could
still be handled by a female. Double action revolvers can be improved
with aftermarket combat rubber grips.
I recommend reading, "Meet Ruger's SP-101 Revolver: The Ideal Gun For
Self Defense", by Kyle Mizokan via the April 2019 issue of The
National Interest.
James A. Farmer
Merrill, Oregon (Klamath County)
Long live The State of Jefferson!
*.357 Magnum revolvers will chamber and fire .38 Special ammo, but not
the reverse. Also...."SP-101 Like Physics, Only Practical" by Law Officer for
January 3, 2009 is well worth reading.