Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are. So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
My theory: GRRM doesn't care about the story anymore. He's stated when he dies his manuscripts are to be destroyed. He MIGHT publish Winds of Winter, but he'll drag I out as long as possible, and he'll ensure that A Dream Of Spring never gets published. Why? Because that seems like the kind of guy he is based on interviews.
I absolutely love that Rothfuss caught you're attention and is getting recognition on this channel. His stories are amazing. Another great author that you guys should check out is Brandon Sanderson. His books are a huge vault of material that is perfect for theorizing. All of his books are linked together in a collected universe called the "Cosmere' and it's a blast trying to link them together. As a bonus you don't have to wait too long for Sanderson to get new material out. He writes massive books in an incredibly short time!
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are. So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
@@slevinchannel7589 The amorous scenes, you mean? As far as I recall they're not all that explicit. Rothfuss tells you enough to visualize what's happening, but keeps it rather vague. Which I, as someone who really doesn't care for explicit scenes in books (or other media for that matter) found enjoyable to read. Normally those pull me out of the story and are a slog to get through, but not these ones. Take this with a grain of salt, it's been a couple years since I last read the books. However, if you are at all interested in them, don't let the presence of those couple scenes prevent you from reading the books. Book 1 doesn't have any such scenes, if I remember correctly, so you can give it a whirl to see if you like it, and if you do decide to read book 2 and get to an amorous scene and don't like how they're handled, you can just skip those scenes. It'd be a shame to not even give the books a chance just because book 2 has a couple explicit-ish scenes in it.
@@FriendB Ok, thats that, but why does a 15-Years-Old Protagonist (...or a book at all anyway) have such Scenes happen to them? As i said, normally, thats not a good sign and worth judging the Author about. So: Why?
@@slevinchannel7589 why would you judge an author for having explicit scenes in a book, it is normal that 15-years old people do those things, also can't tell you why the scenes are there bcs huge spoilers
If you guys like The Name of the Wind, you guys would go crazy for all of Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere books. The Final Empire (Mistborn Series), The Way of Kings (The Stormlight Archive), Elantris, and Warbreaker. I dare you guys to dive into the universe that Sanderson is creating!
@@KingofFools No way dude! There is so much to make theories about. There is literally a podcast who has been doing 2 + hour podcasts just theorizing about the cosmere, and they have been doing weekly or bi weekly podcasts for 3 or 4 years, and still have not run out of things to talk about.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers Rothfuss has spent ten years doing everything but writing. He plays videos games on Twitch, he runs charities, he does everything except write. He claims that he has the book written in his head ...
@@robburgess4556 He's been very clear that mental health has been a big contributor to the delay. Artists don't owe you art. He'll finish it when he's ready and, seeing as he's started talking about book three again, I think he's getting there. Twitch is as big a part of his job as writing.
Please PLEASE read Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere. If one of your favorite things about The Name of the Wind is the really well fleshed out magic system then you will LOVE the Cosmere.
Just subscribed and can't wait to see your Kingkiller Chronicle theory videos! Being someone who also makes Kingkiller theory videos, I can't wait to see what topics you cover. Here's a list of video ideas: -Who is the King Kvothe Kills? -What's The Chandrian's Goal? -Who is Bast? -Who is Denna's Patron?
The king kvothe kills is most likely ambrose. The chandrians goal is the annihilation of the world, its the only way for them to have peace. Well, bast is bast, He is a fae prince. Dennas patron is bredon=cinder=ferule=chandrian/rhinta
I read Name of the Wind recently, it is a well crafted story that is pretty good. Y’all need to check out Brandon Sanderson’s Cosmere books as well, rife for fan theories and speculation, plus he releases them on a pretty regular schedule. The Cosmere includes a couple series and a few stand-alone’s and a collection of short stories that all have a larger Meta-Story that’s unfolding in the background if you look closely. I have a feeling y’all will really like them. Also, the Wheel of Time is another series y’all ought to check out, it’s be adapted into a TV series on Amazon Prime that’s coming out soon. I’d love to see you guys cover that when it’s coming out
Definitely had to be a great feeling :) I'm the same way but was certain this was gonna be the time things changed lol. Alas, it will have to wait till the next giveaway :D Enjoy yours though!
You guys put The Name of the Wind on my radar. 2 years later I can finally watch your theories having finished the series. Thank you. They were amazing.
The Wise Man's Fear was actually released a few months before the latest ASOIAF book, so kingkiller fans have waited a bit longer. Not a competition but still
It doesn't help that both of GRRMs assistants are both writing the Expanse book series as James S.A. Corey and also supporting their own, much better, show.
Omg when my fantasy fandom channels start intersecting. If anyone else is looking for epic high fantasy with a cool fantasy I highly recommend the Cosmere by Brandon Sanderson, especially the Stormlight Archive
If you enjoy NoTW, I have the feeling you'd love Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere or Jordan's Wheel of Time. They both already seemed like perfect series for you, and this just confirms my argument for that fact.
@@koalangel22 Rothfuss took like 15+ years to write Name of the Wind. It really does look like he's going to finish it, and like he cares about the story.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers When I saw this video, I was so so happy. The Kingkiller Chronicles are probably he best books I’ve EVER read (And trust me, I read a LOT of books!!!!) My favourite UA-camrs reading some of my favourite books. My heart exploded. Haven’t watched yet but can NOT WAIT!!!!!!
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are. So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
Please make more Name of the wind content! I want to know your take on Jax, the luckless box (maybe containing the name of the moon?) The Ctheh, Halliax, the angels, and the connections between the wandering Edema Ruh, the former wanderers (the Adem) and the displaced peoples from the lost cities. Please, make more!
This was so helpful. I've had The Name of the Wind on my shelf for years (got it as a gift) and have never picked it up. Thank you for the motivation to become yet another fan who has to wait until book 3 is released!
Amazing novels but I've waited years and have given up on any expectation of the series being concluded. Would love to see you guys take a look at the Stormlight Archive. Best series I've read so far and Brandon Sanderson keeps churning out amazing stories
I will never stop telling you guys you should read the Wheel of Time series! The series has a great fandom and has an adaptation for Amazon in production. Soooooo.... What do ya say?
I've been thinking of reading them because I love Brandon Sanderson and I know he finished the last book of the Wheel of Time. What did you think of the writing style if you finished reading it?
@@Feral_Fruit I have read the whole series. The style does have a noticeable shift- especially books 13 and 14- but none of it was so jarring to make me stop reading, if that makes sense. EDIT: To clarify, book 12 was supposed to be the final one. But they split it into 3 because it would have been too unwieldy otherwise.
Don’t get too excited. Lin Manuel Miranda WAS working on a score for this series. Showtime passed on it, as it’s not a complete series and it’s been a decade since book 2 was published.
I have owned the first book for two years and keep putting off reading this chonker. Your excitement is SO CONTAGIOUS! J talking about the audiobook pushed me to download it and Ben, you just sealed it for me. So glad to jump into another fandom with you guys and thank you so much for encouraging more literacy and nerdiness.
Fiiiiiiiiinnnnnnneeeeee I’ll read it once I’m done with the Locke Lamora series. If anyone asks why my grades are falling it’s because UA-camrs are suggesting too many books💙
Some people r whiny little.... ahm.. the book is one of the best I’ve ever read. The only valid complaint a lot of people have is 1. The story structure (as ben said, there isn’t one. But I personally love it, it makes the book feel unique and like you’re actually going through his life. It IS technically an autobiography by Kvothe) and 2. The fact that the protagonist is op (which isn’t really that valid, as we go through the book WITH him, and see him grow as a mage. So i don’t completely understand how it’s a complaint) The second book has a few actual problems, but is still an amazing read. The way the author writes is SO unique, and makes u wish that there’s more. I’ve only read one of the short books, the slow regard of silent things, and it was AMAZING. It’s slow, and it kinda makes u lost at times, but (once again) the way he writes makes u completely attached to the book, and wondering how it’s gonna go. I’m happy that you’re giving it a chance. U won’t regret it 😁
The biggest complaint or the loudest one I have seen is the way the main character speaks about his love interest. It is very "but im a nice guy" friend zoney, awkward, girl is there to be "won" sort of thing. But in my opinion it completely makes sense for the character as he has no frame of reference for a healthy romantic relationship other than Songs, Plays, Poetry, and his Parents. All but the last are romanticized and not a good basis for real healthy relationships. This puts some people off, but I'm intrigued to see how Kvothe develops as a character.
@@curtisgoldthorpe6656 I agree with you I never read it that way. That's just the most vocal gripe I have seen. I think what they identify as incel nice guy attitude is really just a teenager that doesn't know how to do relationships and I didn't want to go into spoilers for the second book but he definitely grows a good bit in my opinion as far as relationships go.
I 100% sent Ben a DM on instagram nerding out and suggesting a bunch of other fandoms and a booktuber to check out if they choose to go in the booktuber direction :) I love when my favorite creators branch out!
Did you guys like Percy Jackson when you read it? If you did I would love to see videos about Percy Jackson too, especially when there’s so much content to talk about! There are already three series with the Percy Jackson characters and two more in the Riordan-verse (5 series in total). But if you didn’t like it I understand that too, a lot of the reason I like the series is because of the nostalgia (I grew up on Harry Potter and Percy Jackson). Anyways, I love your channel, I’ve been a long time subscriber 💙
Yeah, I totally am with you here!! I think the main reason they haven't dived into it more is because there's not much to make theories about, which is their favorite part of fandoms.... Also on Saturdays livestream they said they didn't really like the first book much (partly because they didn't have an knowledge of mythology, so it was hard to fully appreciate)
Pat said it best while he did a panel. Brandon is a compulsive writer, and Pat is a compulsive reviser. If we put them together, wed either have the most amazing books in the world, or nothing would ever get done...
Just finished listening to the 2nd book, I had started the series after this video dropped, and now I can finally watch the videos you guys made. Awesome recommendation and thank you for getting me into this series.
@SuperCarlinBrothers Since you're doing something kind of new. ( New fandoms ) I was wondering if y'all would be interested in studio Ghibli. They're just like Disney and Pixar they're fun and family friendly and I think you would enjoy them a lot. I don't know a lot of people who know about studio Ghibli and it would a great way for more people to know about them. ( Edit ) there's 22 movie's. Just wanted you to know.
I'm surprised to hear you don't know a lot of people who like Studio Ghibli-- I feel like love of Miyazaki has been one of the great friend-making connectors in my life haha. Just watched Castle in the Sky and bought a silly music box to celebrate VDay with my bf Not sure if there's much to theorize about though... could try to connect all the stories?
@@ecocentriclife that is true about the theorizing. But they could still give it a watch and possibly do a review. I just think it would be really cool if they did. ☺️
My only hang up on reading Name of the Wind is the lack of a final book. I have the first book, and it is one of my friend's favorites but yeah I don't know if Rothfuss will ever actually complete the series. Also, seems like you should dip your toes into the world of " booktube" it's fun over there, we have dragons lol a whole little section of the internet talking about books, a lot of fantasy and sci-fi too l :) good people and good times.
“It has to be?!?!” *The Brandon Sanderson fandom laughing as it can’t keep up with all the cosmere and other books he writes* You all need to read Mostborn then go down the rabbit hole (or through the perpendicularity).
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are. So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?!!
Guys I am so stoked that you are starting to come out with content on these books. It’s one of my favorite book series and I can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
I am so happy to see this series talked about, it is my absolute favorite series ever and I have never met anybody who has read it before I recommended it to them. I have read the books more time than I can count on trips and quiet nights and I have been waiting for the third book for probably 5 years. I was too young to be in the initial fan group but I hope beyond hope that you guys and your influence can restart the conversation around this book. I CANNOT wait for the theories this month. Thank you for talking about this!!!!
Me: can I have "The Stormlight archive"? SCB: No, we already have "The Stormlight archive" at home. "The Stormlight archive" at home = " The Kingkiller Chronicle" On a more serious note, glad to see you guys branching out to more fantasy books series.
It is on my tbr! And and also if you guys are now into making content for new fandoms, I'd suggest you grishaverse.. we have books following different characters at different time in the same universe and it is also coming on netflix on 23rd april.. would love to see your theories on grishaverse too!
My best friend introduced me to this series back in 2012 and I’ve loved it ever since! I cannot WAIT to see you theory videos. Mostly about Denna, and Kvothe’s family!
There are different types of magic systems in stories. Name of the Wind is a 'Hard' magic system, meaning that it has very strict rules. A 'Soft' magic system is where the magic is more mysterious and has no known regulations. Lord of the Rings is a good example of a soft magic system. Harry Potter falls in the middle of the spectrum. It's quite loose, but there are some rules to it.
The Kingkiller Chronicle (Name of the Wind) has multiple magic systems though. Yes, sygaldry and alchemy are hard magics, but naming (which Elodin teaches on the second book) is a soft magic system
@@josebeteta8283 I didn't know there was another magic system in the series. I've only read the first book. I held off with the second when I learned that it would be a LONG time before the series was complete.
@@robertgronewold3326 I reread the first book about twice or thrice by now (it's been my favorite since I graduated highschool). There are some hints here and there about other magic 🪄 In my opinion, if I were in your position, I would read the second book and join the rest of the fans in waiting for the third. I'm impacient in that way, specially with series I liked a lot.
Bought it after the 1st time it was talked about. As someone who has hated reading because of school assignments, this book has made me enjoy reading once again
OMG OMG OMGG! After J recommended reading "The name of the Wind" I read/listened to the whole story in a week. It became my absolute favorite series, I couldn't be more excited!!! Please make videos about it, also please recommend more books!
YESSSS!!! I love these books! I slowly die everytime "doors of stone" is mentioned just because of the sheer time I've been waiting for it. BUT I cannot wait to hear all ur theories, it's one of my favorite books and I can't be more excited! Thank you for promoting this series, it's seriously one of the most curious but easy to read books out there. You can dig as deep or as shallow as you want and the story holds up. I'm so happy to get more content for this gem of a incomplete series
I love Greek Mythology, so I really have dragged my heels on PJ because I'm sure I will hate it. Does it hold up? (I am also 33 so when it came out I was an adult so I didn't know about it til it was much later lol) x
@@hotpinkcrayolas This comment may be very biased coming from a middle schooler who loves the series, but I thought it was great! It puts a really fun spin on Greek mythology. The characters are great and so relatable. The author, Rick Riordan, also gives great representation later on in his books! There is great LGBTQ+ and race rep. Definitely held my attention through all 5 books + his follow-up series'. My mom, who's in her 40's, saw how much I loved the books and decided to give it a go, and she liked them as well.
Ben: "In the present, he is dictating his own story to a notable biographer." Me, an English major working on far too few hours of sleep: "Ah, so it's a frame narrative."
Right, like how people got the Wicked book for kids because, musical, and it contains a graphic scene in a...club where a character volunteers for audience participation and is violated by anthropomorphic tiger...???
@@JennaGetsCreative yes! A little kid! And in the third book a guy loses his virginity while he's unconscious. But by that point I think people had figured out these were not kid books. One that really shocks me is Tender Morsels. It won a children's book award and in the first chapters a little girl is forced by her father to drink a potion and miscarry several of his progeny and they do not tiptoe around it.
Yes, yes, yes!! These books are wonderful! I’ve read the series several times, own them in paperback and on audiobook. I can’t recommend them enough and I’m so happy to see you guys sharing it on your platform! I’ve never been so happy
*patiently waiting for book 3 to be released* Been thinking of re-listening the series again, and maybe this was the sign. I mean it’s only about 70 hours that’s nothing 🤷♀️ nah but that series is great. Everyone who hasnt read it definitely should!
“if you like the Harry Potter series, chances are, you WILL like this.” Everyone likes Harry Potter, some people just think they don’t or don’t know that yet.
@@piniatafullofblood Oh. I didn’t know that. Then I can understand not wanting to give her money. I’m not a bigot, but my personal opinion is that you shouldn’t hold something someone does against something they made. I can understand not supporting Rowling and not buying her books, but I think people shouldn’t decide they’re opinion on HP based of off the beliefs of the author.
This is such a cool thing to see. Two creators who are so passionate about a new story that they make content simply to get more people excited and bring more quality to their lives. I've watched you guys from the beginning and you're easily some of my favorite people to watch on this platform.
OMG I’m so excited for you guys theories!!! This is my favorite book and has been for years and I’ve never met anyone who loves them as much as I do! I can finally hear some answers to theories I’ve had or learn new ones! This is an absolute blessing! 😭😭😭
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are. So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
Raise your hand if you already love The Name of the Wind! 🙋
I'm here after 20 seconds already raising my hand
Because if you recommend it it's obviously good
🙋
me
I started in 2019 and I've been waiting for Doors of Stone
"The villain doesn't conveniently attack at the end of every school year"
Despite his flaws, Voldemort really does care about Harry's education 😌
Update: I ran to the local library and picked up a copy!
Akshara, I can't stop chuckling...
Voldemort did love his time at Hogwarts. He's not going to waste a student's golden years like that **coughUnlessThey'reMuggleborncough**
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there
are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are.
So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
He makes HP suffer through the school year before attacking. Truly evil.
Theory: they only want more people to read the book so that it will pressure the author to write book three
Excellent strategy!
Or maybe they want more people to read de book in order to increase the hype when the book three comes out ;)
lets do it!
I think you're right actually
Problem is if you Know Patrick Rothfuss this is more likely to have the oppositte affect.
“Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.”
― Mark Twain
Ben: ''10 years later and it feels like the end has to be near. it has to be!''
A song of Ice and Fire fans: ''One can only dream''
Of spring
*Wheel of time fans enter the chat*
My theory: GRRM doesn't care about the story anymore. He's stated when he dies his manuscripts are to be destroyed. He MIGHT publish Winds of Winter, but he'll drag I out as long as possible, and he'll ensure that A Dream Of Spring never gets published. Why? Because that seems like the kind of guy he is based on interviews.
At first I read that as Ben 10
@@sashmiel6566 Lord Aybara for the win. Came here for this. Let the dragon ride...
I absolutely love that Rothfuss caught you're attention and is getting recognition on this channel. His stories are amazing. Another great author that you guys should check out is Brandon Sanderson. His books are a huge vault of material that is perfect for theorizing. All of his books are linked together in a collected universe called the "Cosmere' and it's a blast trying to link them together. As a bonus you don't have to wait too long for Sanderson to get new material out. He writes massive books in an incredibly short time!
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there
are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are.
So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
@@slevinchannel7589 The amorous scenes, you mean? As far as I recall they're not all that explicit. Rothfuss tells you enough to visualize what's happening, but keeps it rather vague. Which I, as someone who really doesn't care for explicit scenes in books (or other media for that matter) found enjoyable to read. Normally those pull me out of the story and are a slog to get through, but not these ones. Take this with a grain of salt, it's been a couple years since I last read the books.
However, if you are at all interested in them, don't let the presence of those couple scenes prevent you from reading the books. Book 1 doesn't have any such scenes, if I remember correctly, so you can give it a whirl to see if you like it, and if you do decide to read book 2 and get to an amorous scene and don't like how they're handled, you can just skip those scenes. It'd be a shame to not even give the books a chance just because book 2 has a couple explicit-ish scenes in it.
@@FriendB Ok, thats that, but why does a 15-Years-Old Protagonist (...or a book at all anyway) have such Scenes happen to them?
As i said, normally, thats not a good sign and worth judging the Author about.
So: Why?
@@slevinchannel7589 Kvothe is basically telling his life story, so he will age quite a bit throughout the two books.
@@slevinchannel7589 why would you judge an author for having explicit scenes in a book, it is normal that 15-years old people do those things, also can't tell you why the scenes are there bcs huge spoilers
If you guys like The Name of the Wind, you guys would go crazy for all of Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere books. The Final Empire (Mistborn Series), The Way of Kings (The Stormlight Archive), Elantris, and Warbreaker. I dare you guys to dive into the universe that Sanderson is creating!
Agreed, but I think there's less fuel for theories there.
Agreed!!
@@KingofFools No way dude! There is so much to make theories about. There is literally a podcast who has been doing 2 + hour podcasts just theorizing about the cosmere, and they have been doing weekly or bi weekly podcasts for 3 or 4 years, and still have not run out of things to talk about.
And Sanderson is a writing MACHINE. No need to worry about a series fizzling out.
@@KingofFools You think there are less fuel for theories in the entire Cosmere than in the Kingkiller Chronicles?!
Yeah you guys are literally the exact people the Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson was written for
Haha truuu 😂
I read the books. Make more videos now
I don't think they realise they have now condemmed Possibly millions of viewers to the pain that is BOOK 3
haha well the wait cant last FOREVER... can it???
@@SuperCarlinBrothers it's been 10 years
And it will continue.
@@SuperCarlinBrothers Rothfuss has spent ten years doing everything but writing. He plays videos games on Twitch, he runs charities, he does everything except write. He claims that he has the book written in his head ...
@@robburgess4556 He's been very clear that mental health has been a big contributor to the delay. Artists don't owe you art. He'll finish it when he's ready and, seeing as he's started talking about book three again, I think he's getting there. Twitch is as big a part of his job as writing.
Ben: "What i am trying to say is that the villain doesn't conveniently attack at the end of every school year,"
Me: Yeah it does it is called *Finals*
Lol, and tuition! Dun, dun duhhhhh!
@@williamwolfe962 better hit up your local sketchy loanshark 😁
No final exams here hehehehe
Just vast amounts of money to pay off...
The real villain is how poorly Kvothe spends his money
Please PLEASE read Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere. If one of your favorite things about The Name of the Wind is the really well fleshed out magic system then you will LOVE the Cosmere.
This
I was going to say the same thing!
Yes they would LOVE Mistborn!
Stormlight Archive is my favorite series other than kingkiller
I mean Sanderson literally wrote the rules on how to make a good magic system
Just subscribed and can't wait to see your Kingkiller Chronicle theory videos! Being someone who also makes Kingkiller theory videos, I can't wait to see what topics you cover.
Here's a list of video ideas:
-Who is the King Kvothe Kills?
-What's The Chandrian's Goal?
-Who is Bast?
-Who is Denna's Patron?
Awesome seeing you here!
Jay my favorite canadian, glad to see you around here
The king kvothe kills is most likely ambrose. The chandrians goal is the annihilation of the world, its the only way for them to have peace. Well, bast is bast, He is a fae prince. Dennas patron is bredon=cinder=ferule=chandrian/rhinta
Omg, perfect, literally read this book because of their recommendation and ADORED it, I know who's videos I'm watching next!!
We all share the love of our favourite books❤
Literally everyone who listens to the Pop: Well, well, well... So you've finally decided to make this video.
I haven’t even started watching and that was my thought!! 😆😆
i thought the exact same thing!
Yep, they finally did it !
Great job showing your spikes ben!
@@johndavishunt i loved that episode of the pop! they can be really deep sometimes and are kinda therapy in an upbeat way
I read Name of the Wind recently, it is a well crafted story that is pretty good. Y’all need to check out Brandon Sanderson’s Cosmere books as well, rife for fan theories and speculation, plus he releases them on a pretty regular schedule. The Cosmere includes a couple series and a few stand-alone’s and a collection of short stories that all have a larger Meta-Story that’s unfolding in the background if you look closely. I have a feeling y’all will really like them.
Also, the Wheel of Time is another series y’all ought to check out, it’s be adapted into a TV series on Amazon Prime that’s coming out soon. I’d love to see you guys cover that when it’s coming out
I’ve never been fast enough to get a free anything. I got a free physical copy and I can’t wait. Thank you all so much. You guys are great :)
Definitely had to be a great feeling :) I'm the same way but was certain this was gonna be the time things changed lol. Alas, it will have to wait till the next giveaway :D Enjoy yours though!
How do I tell if Im not too late?
@@madjack7707 it says in the description that they have run out of the free copies
You guys put The Name of the Wind on my radar. 2 years later I can finally watch your theories having finished the series. Thank you. They were amazing.
“The end has to be here! It has to be!” Tell that to us A Song of Ice and Fire fans who have been waiting for the last 2 books for over a decade
Martin is busy writing video games and TV shows now. He's never going to finish ASOIAF
it's really killing me at this point
The Wise Man's Fear was actually released a few months before the latest ASOIAF book, so kingkiller fans have waited a bit longer. Not a competition but still
It doesn't help that both of GRRMs assistants are both writing the Expanse book series as James S.A. Corey and also supporting their own, much better, show.
Omg when my fantasy fandom channels start intersecting. If anyone else is looking for epic high fantasy with a cool fantasy I highly recommend the Cosmere by Brandon Sanderson, especially the Stormlight Archive
THIS IS MY FAVOURITE BOOK EVER. PLEASE POST THEORIES.
If you enjoy NoTW, I have the feeling you'd love Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere or Jordan's Wheel of Time. They both already seemed like perfect series for you, and this just confirms my argument for that fact.
If you guys like thories, you should read thw books in the cosmere. There is a lot of crazy things to theorize there
exactly! i just commented about this
So true! I think Ben and J would really love the series.
I got The Way of Kings for my birthday last month, and I'm about 70 pages into it now. I'm not the fastest reader but I'm very much enjoying it.
Also, sanderson's series will actually get finished...
@@koalangel22 Rothfuss took like 15+ years to write Name of the Wind. It really does look like he's going to finish it, and like he cares about the story.
I love the name of the wind!! If you are taking book suggestions Brandon Sanderson is an incredible author
I'm so glad you guys are talking about it, Patrick created an amazing world with the Kingkiller Chronicles
Its soooooo good we have each read the first two books three times each and Ben is working on his 4th pass now!
@@SuperCarlinBrothers When I saw this video, I was so so happy. The Kingkiller Chronicles are probably he best books I’ve EVER read (And trust me, I read a LOT of books!!!!) My favourite UA-camrs reading some of my favourite books. My heart exploded. Haven’t watched yet but can NOT WAIT!!!!!!
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there
are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are.
So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
If you like The Name of the Wind, you should checkout anything by Brandon Sanderson. In particular, I would recommend you start with Mistborn
Sanderson books are good but don’t compare to Rothfuss’s writing
Just the fact that you recommend it makes me wanna read it🤩
Hope you enjoy!
Please make more Name of the wind content! I want to know your take on Jax, the luckless box (maybe containing the name of the moon?) The Ctheh, Halliax, the angels, and the connections between the wandering Edema Ruh, the former wanderers (the Adem) and the displaced peoples from the lost cities. Please, make more!
After RELENTLESS talking about this book on the Popcast i might HAVE to buy it.
Yeah same
This was so helpful. I've had The Name of the Wind on my shelf for years (got it as a gift) and have never picked it up. Thank you for the motivation to become yet another fan who has to wait until book 3 is released!
this book series is incredible. next, check out The Way of Kings by brandon sanderson!
Sanderson is on the read list!
YES! and Mistborn by the same author, that world is also really interesting
You can actually say the same thing about most of brandon sandersons books
It's on the list?! WOOT!! This channel is about to get sixteen times better.
Yes! Currently reading Rhythm of War x
Yes!!! I didn’t like Name of the Wind at all but I’m a HUGE Sanderson fan.
All right, here we go-
Day one of trying to get SCB to read the Stormlight Chronicles!
Stormlight... Mic drop!
Do you mean the Stormlight Archive?
Yes please! They should probably start with Mistborn first.
You're right, my bad
@@hsmith4263 what is it about?
if you want another book that is ripe for speculation you should read the stormlight archive by brandon sanderson
Yes please!
I'd say start with Mistborn, since they'd love the whole Cosmere, but I've been insisting on this point for a long time, I hope they actually read it.
"I'm spending my next vacation AT THE LIBRARY!" --Sokka.
Definitely adding this book to my to be read list.
Guys. Please read Sanderson. Please. You would love the Cosmere so much.
Yes!!
Rothfuss: ten years later still no book 3.
Sanderson: first book published 2005, next 15 years, 25+books...
Amazing novels but I've waited years and have given up on any expectation of the series being concluded. Would love to see you guys take a look at the Stormlight Archive. Best series I've read so far and Brandon Sanderson keeps churning out amazing stories
I will never stop telling you guys you should read the Wheel of Time series! The series has a great fandom and has an adaptation for Amazon in production. Soooooo.... What do ya say?
I've been thinking of reading them because I love Brandon Sanderson and I know he finished the last book of the Wheel of Time. What did you think of the writing style if you finished reading it?
@@Feral_Fruit I have read the whole series. The style does have a noticeable shift- especially books 13 and 14- but none of it was so jarring to make me stop reading, if that makes sense.
EDIT: To clarify, book 12 was supposed to be the final one. But they split it into 3 because it would have been too unwieldy otherwise.
“Dormant” is a really nice way of putting “there’s no ending” 😤😤😤
Literally all you had to say was Lin Manuel Miranda, and then you managed to have me hooked before you even said that
To true.
I'm a simple man, I see Lil' Manual Umbrella, I click (or read in this case)
aaah yay
Y E S.
Don’t get too excited. Lin Manuel Miranda WAS working on a score for this series. Showtime passed on it, as it’s not a complete series and it’s been a decade since book 2 was published.
I have owned the first book for two years and keep putting off reading this chonker. Your excitement is SO CONTAGIOUS!
J talking about the audiobook pushed me to download it and Ben, you just sealed it for me. So glad to jump into another fandom with you guys and thank you so much for encouraging more literacy and nerdiness.
Fiiiiiiiiinnnnnnneeeeee I’ll read it once I’m done with the Locke Lamora series. If anyone asks why my grades are falling it’s because UA-camrs are suggesting too many books💙
I'm currently reading that series too!! Which book are you on?
You don't need grades when Locke can teach you to be a thief!
You have chosen great works but keep in mind that these are probably the slowest writers next to g r r martin
If you need more good books to read, any book by Brandon Sanderson, but especially mistborn or the stormlight archive are fantastic
@@mollygraham1249 red seas under red skies. I got about a third of the way through and then midterms rolled around😭
Just ordered the audiobook on Audible, a little concerned about all the negative reviews there but I’m willing to give it a shot! :)
Some people r whiny little.... ahm.. the book is one of the best I’ve ever read. The only valid complaint a lot of people have is 1. The story structure (as ben said, there isn’t one. But I personally love it, it makes the book feel unique and like you’re actually going through his life. It IS technically an autobiography by Kvothe) and 2. The fact that the protagonist is op (which isn’t really that valid, as we go through the book WITH him, and see him grow as a mage. So i don’t completely understand how it’s a complaint)
The second book has a few actual problems, but is still an amazing read. The way the author writes is SO unique, and makes u wish that there’s more.
I’ve only read one of the short books, the slow regard of silent things, and it was AMAZING. It’s slow, and it kinda makes u lost at times, but (once again) the way he writes makes u completely attached to the book, and wondering how it’s gonna go.
I’m happy that you’re giving it a chance. U won’t regret it 😁
The biggest complaint or the loudest one I have seen is the way the main character speaks about his love interest. It is very "but im a nice guy" friend zoney, awkward, girl is there to be "won" sort of thing. But in my opinion it completely makes sense for the character as he has no frame of reference for a healthy romantic relationship other than Songs, Plays, Poetry, and his Parents. All but the last are romanticized and not a good basis for real healthy relationships.
This puts some people off, but I'm intrigued to see how Kvothe develops as a character.
It's amazing. End of story. Book reviews are silly.
@@gotelc This is confusing me. The main character doesn't do what you say... He is jealous but has his own reasons for not pursuing a relationship
@@curtisgoldthorpe6656 I agree with you I never read it that way. That's just the most vocal gripe I have seen. I think what they identify as incel nice guy attitude is really just a teenager that doesn't know how to do relationships and I didn't want to go into spoilers for the second book but he definitely grows a good bit in my opinion as far as relationships go.
I 100% sent Ben a DM on instagram nerding out and suggesting a bunch of other fandoms and a booktuber to check out if they choose to go in the booktuber direction :)
I love when my favorite creators branch out!
Did you guys like Percy Jackson when you read it? If you did I would love to see videos about Percy Jackson too, especially when there’s so much content to talk about! There are already three series with the Percy Jackson characters and two more in the Riordan-verse (5 series in total). But if you didn’t like it I understand that too, a lot of the reason I like the series is because of the nostalgia (I grew up on Harry Potter and Percy Jackson). Anyways, I love your channel, I’ve been a long time subscriber 💙
I'd love to see PJ videos from them tbh
me too
I would love to see that! I have all of the on Audible.
Yeah, I totally am with you here!! I think the main reason they haven't dived into it more is because there's not much to make theories about, which is their favorite part of fandoms.... Also on Saturdays livestream they said they didn't really like the first book much (partly because they didn't have an knowledge of mythology, so it was hard to fully appreciate)
I swear I was looking for this comment it deserves more likes
“We love us a good fandom”
*shows ATLA among Marvel, HP, etc*
ATLA fandom: *happily sips on hot leaf juice*
HOT LEAF JUICE!?
@Gibbous Mann Uncle, that’s what all tea is
@@demigodwizardtributejedi4052 HOW CAN A MEMBER OF MY OWN FAMILY SAY SOMETHING SO HORRIBLE
@Ezra Cohen that’s rough buddy :))
@Ezra Cohen thank you xD
One of my favourite series of all time...if he ever finishes writing the last one! Come on Rothfuss, I believe in you!
Accidentally clicked on this notif, but I'm not complaining.
I’d love to hear you guys thought on the Stormlight Archive if you haven’t read them already!
Yes please!!
I love this series! Pleeease let book 3 come out soon!
My fan theories:
1)Bredon is Denna's patron
2)Kvothe's mom was Meluan's sister
About time! I've been a fan of these books for years!
So glad you guys love this too! Can’t wait for more
2023.... I'm listening to the book again... give me all of your theories immediately ❤
If you want to sink your teeth into a deep literary series, you should get into Brandon Sanderson's Cosmere next. The theory groups are crazy fun.
And there is the added benefit of new books released regularly because Sanderson is a machine
Exactly
Seconded, he's building quite the universe and pops quality books out one after another like it's easy.
Pat said it best while he did a panel. Brandon is a compulsive writer, and Pat is a compulsive reviser. If we put them together, wed either have the most amazing books in the world, or nothing would ever get done...
Stormlight Archive is the greatest fantasy series ever except maybe kingkiller
Just finished listening to the 2nd book, I had started the series after this video dropped, and now I can finally watch the videos you guys made.
Awesome recommendation and thank you for getting me into this series.
@SuperCarlinBrothers Since you're doing something kind of new. ( New fandoms ) I was wondering if y'all would be interested in studio Ghibli. They're just like Disney and Pixar they're fun and family friendly and I think you would enjoy them a lot. I don't know a lot of people who know about studio Ghibli and it would a great way for more people to know about them.
( Edit ) there's 22 movie's. Just wanted you to know.
I'm surprised to hear you don't know a lot of people who like Studio Ghibli-- I feel like love of Miyazaki has been one of the great friend-making connectors in my life haha. Just watched Castle in the Sky and bought a silly music box to celebrate VDay with my bf
Not sure if there's much to theorize about though... could try to connect all the stories?
@@ecocentriclife that is true about the theorizing. But they could still give it a watch and possibly do a review. I just think it would be really cool if they did. ☺️
"Just like"?! They're objectively better in every way! So much originality! And it's all hand drawn! Fantastic recommendation though!!!
As far as I know and have met, toooons of people know about Studio Ghibli!!!
@@princessthyemis that's grate that you know soo many people who know about studio Ghibli! ☺️ ❤️
My only hang up on reading Name of the Wind is the lack of a final book. I have the first book, and it is one of my friend's favorites but yeah I don't know if Rothfuss will ever actually complete the series.
Also, seems like you should dip your toes into the world of " booktube" it's fun over there, we have dragons lol a whole little section of the internet talking about books, a lot of fantasy and sci-fi too l :) good people and good times.
I love these books! I can’t wait until the Doors of stones is released! !hype
SAME
Same
“It has to be?!?!”
*The Brandon Sanderson fandom laughing as it can’t keep up with all the cosmere and other books he writes*
You all need to read Mostborn then go down the rabbit hole (or through the perpendicularity).
Just started mistborn in a cosmere book club. I started with storm light.
The fact that Sanderson has a tracker on his website is next level. I hope they get into Sanderson, he’s easily my favorite author.
+
The cosmere is a must read for people who get into fandoms
I’m on book 3 of Mistborn! So good!
Kvothe the Raven: "I should be an eagle!"
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there
are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are.
So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?!!
@@slevinchannel7589 Huh?
Guys I am so stoked that you are starting to come out with content on these books. It’s one of my favorite book series and I can’t wait to hear your thoughts!
This is my favorite series, my hand is raised. The wise man’s fear is so interesting and I highly recommend it.
I am so happy to see this series talked about, it is my absolute favorite series ever and I have never met anybody who has read it before I recommended it to them. I have read the books more time than I can count on trips and quiet nights and I have been waiting for the third book for probably 5 years. I was too young to be in the initial fan group but I hope beyond hope that you guys and your influence can restart the conversation around this book. I CANNOT wait for the theories this month. Thank you for talking about this!!!!
Me: can I have "The Stormlight archive"?
SCB: No, we already have "The Stormlight archive" at home.
"The Stormlight archive" at home = " The Kingkiller Chronicle"
On a more serious note, glad to see you guys branching out to more fantasy books series.
Love Stormlight Archive second best series i have ever read. PERIOD.
Kingkiller is nearly as good as stormlight save for the fact that we don't have an ending
@@thebassashaman3344 what's the first?
@@akmalsy159 watch him say Mistborn 😆 Brando Sando OP
'The Slow Regard of Silent Things' is one of my all time favourite stories. Freaking love Auri
I STARTED LISTENING TO THIS LIKE TWO WEEKS AGO :D
Awesome!
@@SuperCarlinBrothers if you make theory’s about this book, I sware I will watch the videos a million times over!!!!!
It is on my tbr! And and also if you guys are now into making content for new fandoms, I'd suggest you grishaverse.. we have books following different characters at different time in the same universe and it is also coming on netflix on 23rd april.. would love to see your theories on grishaverse too!
The name of the wind is brilliant. Nothing more needs to be said about it.
My best friend introduced me to this series back in 2012 and I’ve loved it ever since! I cannot WAIT to see you theory videos. Mostly about Denna, and Kvothe’s family!
As a book lover I was already hooked but Lin Manuel Miranda being involved is the icing on the cake!
I am SO HAPPY that you are finally talking about this series on the channel. More please!
There are different types of magic systems in stories. Name of the Wind is a 'Hard' magic system, meaning that it has very strict rules. A 'Soft' magic system is where the magic is more mysterious and has no known regulations. Lord of the Rings is a good example of a soft magic system. Harry Potter falls in the middle of the spectrum. It's quite loose, but there are some rules to it.
The Kingkiller Chronicle (Name of the Wind) has multiple magic systems though. Yes, sygaldry and alchemy are hard magics, but naming (which Elodin teaches on the second book) is a soft magic system
@@josebeteta8283 I didn't know there was another magic system in the series. I've only read the first book. I held off with the second when I learned that it would be a LONG time before the series was complete.
@@robertgronewold3326 I reread the first book about twice or thrice by now (it's been my favorite since I graduated highschool). There are some hints here and there about other magic 🪄
In my opinion, if I were in your position, I would read the second book and join the rest of the fans in waiting for the third. I'm impacient in that way, specially with series I liked a lot.
I have been waiting for forever!
I am so glad to see you guys join the fandom!
Bought it after the 1st time it was talked about. As someone who has hated reading because of school assignments, this book has made me enjoy reading once again
OMG OMG OMGG! After J recommended reading "The name of the Wind" I read/listened to the whole story in a week. It became my absolute favorite series, I couldn't be more excited!!! Please make videos about it, also please recommend more books!
Love this series and if you like the magic system here you NEED to read The Mistborn books by Brandon Sanderson. Or really anything by him!
YESSSS!!! I love these books! I slowly die everytime "doors of stone" is mentioned just because of the sheer time I've been waiting for it. BUT I cannot wait to hear all ur theories, it's one of my favorite books and I can't be more excited! Thank you for promoting this series, it's seriously one of the most curious but easy to read books out there. You can dig as deep or as shallow as you want and the story holds up. I'm so happy to get more content for this gem of a incomplete series
Y- you enjoy 1st person narrations of near death experiences? P- Percy Jackson 🥺
1st person narration of near death experiences, but with sass!
@@annatabner8459 WITH SASS!
@Neil Mehta I gotta disagree! Hunger Games is great but I must stand with my fellow demigods!
I love Greek Mythology, so I really have dragged my heels on PJ because I'm sure I will hate it. Does it hold up?
(I am also 33 so when it came out I was an adult so I didn't know about it til it was much later lol) x
@@hotpinkcrayolas This comment may be very biased coming from a middle schooler who loves the series, but I thought it was great! It puts a really fun spin on Greek mythology. The characters are great and so relatable. The author, Rick Riordan, also gives great representation later on in his books! There is great LGBTQ+ and race rep. Definitely held my attention through all 5 books + his follow-up series'.
My mom, who's in her 40's, saw how much I loved the books and decided to give it a go, and she liked them as well.
OMG FINALLY YOU GUYS I NEVER THOUGHT YOU WOULD FIND THIS BOOK LET ALONE MAKE VIDEOS ON IT!!! 😄😄😄
Ben: "In the present, he is dictating his own story to a notable biographer."
Me, an English major working on far too few hours of sleep: "Ah, so it's a frame narrative."
YEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! I'm so happy you guys are covering this series. It's awesome!
Can’t read the wind book right now because I’m only on book 7 of wheel of time
Hey, I'm almost done with The Fires of Heaven!
Feel you, I'm reading Rick Riordan right now. Just finished Mark of Athena, but there are still 13 books to go.
i feel you man
WoT is amazing. Rereading for the first time, on Lord of Chaos
@@CheyenneSedai Yeah I love it so far! I am almost done with The Fires of Heaven.
I have been waiting about 6 months for this video! So excited for the next month of bonus videos!!
"Amorous situations, especially in the second book" - You mean the part where he spends an entire chapter having adult fun time with a faerie?
Right, like how people got the Wicked book for kids because, musical, and it contains a graphic scene in a...club where a character volunteers for audience participation and is violated by anthropomorphic tiger...???
@@helenamirian908 Yes! Not exactly a middle grade novel. Then there's a scene early in the second book where someone dies by falling giant icicle.
@@JennaGetsCreative yes! A little kid! And in the third book a guy loses his virginity while he's unconscious. But by that point I think people had figured out these were not kid books. One that really shocks me is Tender Morsels. It won a children's book award and in the first chapters a little girl is forced by her father to drink a potion and miscarry several of his progeny and they do not tiptoe around it.
I have been a huge fan of this series for years and it will be so awesome to have someone to geek out over it with. Thanks for doing this!
I won't start this series until it's finished and considering how long he takes on writing books, I guess I'll never read it
Brief reminder that Pat owes us nothing
@@daph_09 I didn't say that, I just won't read it.
@@Shiva182Katarina you’re missing out
Yes, yes, yes!! These books are wonderful! I’ve read the series several times, own them in paperback and on audiobook. I can’t recommend them enough and I’m so happy to see you guys sharing it on your platform! I’ve never been so happy
When Ethan Becker and SuperCarlinBrothers tangentially crossover, I begin to believe in fate
One of my favorite youtubers talking about one of my favourite books & author. This is absolute class.
I haven't finished this video yet, but I'm convinced already.
*patiently waiting for book 3 to be released*
Been thinking of re-listening the series again, and maybe this was the sign. I mean it’s only about 70 hours that’s nothing 🤷♀️ nah but that series is great. Everyone who hasnt read it definitely should!
Have you tried speeding it up? I listen to the books at 3.5x speed. Really saves time
This whole video is exactly how I try to explain a book to my friends to convince them to read it, but I completely fail and I end up making no sense.
just finished the first two books and completely forgot you guys had made videos about the series. I love it, huge fan
“if you like the Harry Potter series, chances are, you WILL like this.” Everyone likes Harry Potter, some people just think they don’t or don’t know that yet.
some people don’t like jk Rowling and refuse to give money to her because she’s transphobic.
@@piniatafullofblood Oh. I didn’t know that. Then I can understand not wanting to give her money. I’m not a bigot, but my personal opinion is that you shouldn’t hold something someone does against something they made. I can understand not supporting Rowling and not buying her books, but I think people shouldn’t decide they’re opinion on HP based of off the beliefs of the author.
@@propandapower7633 I agree. Sorry, I’m just spiteful because I accidentally got the entire thing before I realized the kinda person she is.
or they just don’t like Harry Potter- people have preferences
Except that HP actually had an ending...
Thanks to this video I’ve started the book and I’m loving it!! It’s been a long time since I’ve been excited to sit down and read something each day 😊
The fact that Lin is directing it is enough reason for me to read the books
Yup. I love him
Think of the songs that movie will have!
@@zacktackett5739 gonna be AMAZEBALLS!!!
This is such a cool thing to see. Two creators who are so passionate about a new story that they make content simply to get more people excited and bring more quality to their lives. I've watched you guys from the beginning and you're easily some of my favorite people to watch on this platform.
"It doesn't do what a story is supposed to do."
finish?
OMG I’m so excited for you guys theories!!! This is my favorite book and has been for years and I’ve never met anyone who loves them as much as I do! I can finally hear some answers to theories I’ve had or learn new ones! This is an absolute blessing! 😭😭😭
Don't do it. It's a trap. The series will never be finished.
YESS!!! You guys basically cover my entire fandoms now 😍, THANK YOU!!!! ✨✨✨
This was the only fantasy book I could not get through. Can we please get Ben and J to read Cosmere tho??!?!
That would be cool too
Or keeper of the lost cities
Yeah, well, those explicit scenes that are very much there
are surely a sign for bad Quality, as such things usually are.
So i ask: How bad is the nonsense?
@@slevinchannel7589 what?
These books are a staple in my family! I’ve read them both twice and I can’t wait to hear you guys talk about them!