Had same thoughts, Super disciplined sisters than can control their body on the cellular level and master manipulators acting like high schoolers. Everyone lacks retainers, princess is able to go to a club? the emperors heir without bodyguards? where are the house mentats? they are the chief advisors also where the hell is the spacing guild? bad enough the film didnt depict the second main power in the galaxy pulling the strings.
As a big fan of Frank Herbert's works and not a fan at all of Brian Herbert's work, I went in to this with pretty low expectations. And the show did a pretty good job of barely reaching my expectations. I'll finish watching it out of morbid curiosity, but unless it makes a major shift for the better, I wouldn't recommend the show to anyone.
Nooooo. Omnius. Nooo. Back to deep space with you! I dont know if it was part of the re writes but they had a pretty good idea. They pulled a brian herbert on brian and made this series post 'sisterhood of dune' book. So, really, they are very free to do what they want in the plot while staying within the larger universe.
Only if it was based on Frank Herbert's original idea of the Butlerian Jihad... and not the War Against the Machines ripoff fabricated by Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson.
If it was the Brian Herbert Butlerian Jihad, I would actively be telling everyone I know to actively not watch that garbage. I've read the first two of those book (only Brian books I've read) and didn't even finish the series. I almost never quit series in the middle. I've never written fiction but I could probably do better. At least, I'd be closer to what Frank was getting at.
nah that would have been kind of whack. the Ware against the Thinking Machines is more about humanities over reliance of technology to think for them and control of humanity. Sure the actual Jihad would have the action you are probably thinking of, but the build up is more the important part and that would be, if done well, a more cerebral Thriller of Butler uncovering the conspiracy of the machines.
I don't get the hate - I've read the book, seen the movies... watched the other tv show... I think this was awesome. I really am kinda shocked at the reception, I mean putting this into the dune cinematic/tv world Id say this is definitely at the higher end of production/result. I thought it was great and I recommend to anyone who is interested in this universe.
People watch Dune for the politics between the great Houses, but the series tried to stuff those girl school Hogwarts type drama in there, which nobody cares because it is so insignificant compared to the political tensions between the worlds and Houses.
the intrigue is LITERALLY high school drama... even in the books.... the whole rivalry between Atreides and Harkonnen is LITERAL high school drama... read it man... Jesus I feel like these comments are all very opinionated hardcore fans of Frank Herberts dune WHO HAVE NEVER READ OR SEEN THE MOVIES OR BOOKS... Nobles in Dune engage in a ritualistic form of argument where they send insulting or threatening poetry to each other in a very specific and structure way and format, sometimes for years. Im not sure what political intrigue or universe you had in mind - but High School drama has always been Dunes format of storytelling.
@@brandong.1337 a lot of comments here are people who got traumatized with the Acolyte and don"t even understand Dune so they see a show about a group of women then decide it must be bad
The only reason I gave this show a chance was because it had Travis Fimmel and so far he’s the only reason to watch. Whenever he’s on screen, it’s compelling. When he’s not on screen, I’m bored.
Man, I started watching the first episode and it did not grab me. I quit half way on the first episode. The Benny and the jets storyline is not great, plus it's boring. They should have just did the Butlerian Jihad storyline for the whole season. I'm done with the space witches at this point in my life. The Power of Manyyyyyyyyy........... left a bad taste in my mouth.
Travis Fimmel is already carrying this on his back and he's barely in it. Half the dialog is terrible. Half the casting is terrible. Half the characters are complete morons. The exposition is heavy. How did HBO of all studios manage to miss this opportunity?
Ragnar is carrying this shooow haaaaard rn. His screen presence is just unmatched. They needed more people on his level, cause the other actors can't keep up and have a CW feel to them.
Dune has always been exposition heavy, regardless the Herbert who wrote it. I feel like the son’s stuff actually had more speed to it, and more teen angst. I haven’t seen the show yet, but it sounds like you are both right, and have different tastes, and expectations. I’m not watching it. Definitely doesn’t sound like my vibe.
lemme help you - Travis is great in this, he is written well to boot. Shows pretty good - I challenge you to write better dialogue, this is better than 90% of whats on TV. Casting is spot on, feels right to me and Im a Dune fan. Chars are supposed to be morons, they live in a time of fear and class stratification - the nobles are venal and inept... the soldiers have fluid loyalties, the emperor is an indecisive dolt relying on the sisterhood for everything.... this all tracks and makes sense in this universe. I dont get your criticism and I think you should try watching the show again if you like Dune.... if not thats ok too.
@ the time skip that made sense for me was the one for Leto ||. 3500 years with a tyrant that kept everything stagnant, and still the social political and ecological situation on Arrakis is changed drastically. This series has roughly same social and political environment and the same visuals as the movies but there is a 10000 year gap here, it’s hard to suspend disbelief.
Yeah, the worlds and settings are WAY too similar to the Dune movies. If it were 10,000 years before it would be drastically different. I mean just think about what the world looked like 10,000 years ago on Earth.
You literally get taught in high school english class that the very beginning of everything you write needs a strong hook or people don’t want to read the rest. This goes over to movies/shows also. They definitely didn’t do well with their hook.
yes - that hook in War & Peace and the Decameron are absolute bangers - good thing Tolstoy and Alighieri were listening in high school english class... Tolkien also well known for his shire based BANGERS to start off his genre establishing lingual masterpiece that is foundational to the English language, with ZERO exposition. You are delusional :)
If people dislike this show how TF did they like the movies which never featured The Guild or The Imperium or the Landsraad or the function of Spice in the economy/psychic use
Dune can be enjoyed on a large or small scale. the classic dune is a medieval society set in a hi sci-fi age. From there it almost becomes like warhammer with insane galactic wars and monster god emperors. I enjoyed the first book the most but get why people like the other books too. the movies missed 95% of it but were good visually.
Reminds me Acolyte. During the first episode I expected the diverse group of high school looking girls to start chanting “the power of one, the power of many”.
The problem I see with this show is that there're so many characters and the pacing feels off and boring. I'd say people who don't know anything about Dune will feel lost the entire season because it feels like the show was made for hardcore fans only. The average person will feel bored. Hell even Alex was bored. Unfortunately I was too.
Anything with 6 episode will always be poorly paced and boring. its a 2 hour story stretched out so they can call it a show and get folks to subscribe. It's basically an advertisement for the streaming service at this point with some story and visuals thrown in. This was not made with the goal of entertaining and telling a good story, it was made with the goal of getting subscriber to streaming services.
Im starting to feel a large part of commenters hating havnt actually seen this show lol...did you just skim through 10mins and make up your mind... I am a fan, never read or going to read Brians efforts... in terms of Dune cinematic/tv adaptations - this is right up there, there are not 'many characters'... you were introduced to more chars in the first 10mins of Lynchs Dune... you were introduced to DOUBLE that in SyFy's show. Apart from the catty ginger and ethnic shrek Id say all the chars are well written and interesting so far.
This I dont understand. They make a show for Dune newcommers ane everyone complains. They make a show that show loves for details in the lore and that is bad also
Other Joe: there's not enough bright colors. It's boring. Alex: there's too many women. It's boring. It's not a 10 but Joe is right. This is a good show with good acting. The story is intriguing. I like it.
Pretty much my impression too. It's a *fine* show. Nothing grounbreaking or anything, particularily the dialogue, but so far i'd say it's been worth to watch. And i came in with pretty low expectations after hearing early reviews were shit
As a Frank Herbert Dune fan....Naaah. I do geek out on some concepts shown in the show (like the Spice agony), but I don't feel that Brian Herbert vision of the past is something I will ever gel with. And it's not particularly interesting to anyone who does not know Dune lore.
This show is really surprising good. For once I’m on AJs and against the comments. Feel like many of you are caught up by The Acolyte lol we get it The Acolyte was the worst shit ever but this isn’t so bad.
@@z3roninja565 same I’m enjoying it a lot. I don’t know if it’s because we aren’t hardcore fans of dune. I usually side with Alex and OJ of stuff but for this one I have to disagree and agree with AJ.
I don't have much hope for this series after hearing all the pre-production problems it faced. And the fact it is weighed down by a weak foundation due to its lackluster source material (ie: a book not written by Frank Herbert). I'll be pleasantly surprised if the show ends up far better than what we have now... which I want it to be.
The show is painfully boring. We don’t need to know the backstory of the shadow faction, and in any case, Paul Atreides makes them obsolete since he was a success contrary to their core plans, and he has the Voice™️, which is their only claim to fame.
Brian Herbert's books are the reason pocket sand was invented. If anyone suggests you read one throw a handful of it in their face and flee to the nearest exit. Even if it’s a window.
I don't think they are that bad lol. They definitely aren't Heretics, they definitely aren't his fathers unique prose. They are very generically written. But I did like the universe. I did like the expansion of the lore. I very much enjoyed Sandworms (I think it's the last one lol, there were so many, whichever is the 2 part conclusion) I liked the conclusion that is supposedly the way Herbert wanted his series to end. I think it was at least partly his intent, because in rereading, he does telegraph heavily who the Kwizatz Haderach was going to end up being. Having said all this...I bought Paul of Dune when it released in hardcover, never read it, and never even looked at another subsequent book after that lol. I just needed to know how the story ended I guess.
@@GaudiaCertaminisGaming Kevin J Anderson doesn't get enough hate for his 50% contribution to this fucking dumpster fire of extended universe bullshit. I hadn't read any of BH or KJA stuff and found like 17 of their Dune books on a sale in bulk. Worst purchase decision I ever made.
Absolutely fantastic! I’m definitely going to use that “invention of pocket sand” sometime in the future. I’ll probably use the nearest exit also. I think most of the Dune books had Slow sections, but there was only one I regret reading. It was at least 25 years ago, but I’m pretty sure it was book 4 or 5. It wasn’t the one with the female protagonist.
@@goodrabbi7176 oh lord I don't even remember a female protagonist lol. My problem is I read all the "House" prequels, the Butlerian trilogy and then the ones that proceeded Chapterhouse and I couldn't tell you which one was which...except the last 2, and only because of what happens to Arakis and who the Kwizatz was revealed to be. I don't even remember both parts, I just remember it was a 2 parter lol. I think I liked the Omnius and Erasmus books. I guess they weren't that bad if I read them all lol. Its like 20 books.
5:54 This is an example of newer fans not knowing the lore. Desmond may be a bad guy, but he is not the only bad guy. The 3rd and especially the 4th novels make it clear that Valya is NOT on the side of the angels. I think by the end of the series we'll find that Desmond is one of those wonderful bad guys who actually has a valid point to make. Most people seem to expect this show to be another "girl bosses are the bestest ever" show, but I believe, based on what I know about the Dune lore, that this show is going to upend that. It may not do a complete reversal, but I am certain that it will at the very least show that some girl bosses are absolutely toxic.
Yep, there are not bad guys in Dune and yeah. A lot of people here have this weird take on the Bene Gesserit maybe they are too influenced by other shows or other franchises
I have to tip the hat for slowly burning a little boy alive in the first episode. Gotta admit that's what kept me watching to see how wild shit would get.
I'm a fan of the Dune movies and recently The Penguin. I think this biggest problem with this show is that it's shallow. There just isn't any depth. It feels like a very expensive CW show. I really want to like it. But I'm having a hard time. So many of the characters have no distinct personality. They just say lines. And based on what they say "defines" the character. So much of the shows dialogue feels empty bc its like reading a script rather than seeing people be emotional. You can distinctly define any character in Pengiun. In Dune I really can't. I just know Ragnar is playing Ragnar lol
@Dakhor weird. Bc the dune movies are praised across the board. This show is kind of lame. And Timothy carries in dune 2. Very emotional acting so I have to disagree. When he is doing his speech I got chills. 2 episodes in of dune show I'm barely staying awake. And I just finished from which is notoriously low budget but a fun show. Dune TV is just cw on hbo
@ this guy is literally a psychotic rebel with delusions of grandeur, completely incomparable to Ragnar. Characters have nothing in common in any way. Ragnar was a far more in depth and complex character, and had the time for such
SciFi's _Dune_ & _Children of Dune_ miniseries is the only good _Dune_ TV show... if only because it faithfully follows _Dune_ lore as written by Frank Herbert. Yes, it has its problems. But at least it is most faithful to the books.
this is inarguably better... I think if Ewan could go back in time, he'd tell himself not to do that show it was that bad... I still loved it, but I am a fan.
Children of Dune was and is incredible and I personally can’t wait to see God Emperor of Dune someday and hopefully we see Children of Dune after Denis does Dune Messiah unless his Dune Messiah does include Children of Dune secretly
9:48 One problem here is that the Bene Tleilax play a big role in the next film. Another problem is that the choices the Sisterhood makes in this show are important in understanding their actions in the next film. Here are some things the show needs to set up: 1. How the Bene Gesserit are different than the Bene Tleilax. 2. The Bene Gesserit view of gholas and artificial insemination. 3. The Bene Gesserit drive to manipulate others instead of guiding them. 4. What a ghola is. 5. How the Sisterhood failed, so that you'll understand what happens to Paul, Chani, and their children. 6. How Other Memory works. These are all fairly complex topics that aren't going to be explained in a 3 hour movie without a LOT of exposition.
DUNE is not for everybody. I think it’s too boring for “Normies” If you have no background knowledge and haven’t read any DUNE novels you might be lost and/or bored. Hardcore DUNERS like myself are split on Prophecy as the expanded DUNIVERSE is often the subject of scorn beyond the Orignal Six Frank Herbert Books. I personally am digging it because it’s very “Space Game of Thrones”. After two episode in I’ll continue watching! I’m glad that Angry Joe digs it and the shoutout to Quinn’s Ideas was great!!!
Not sure but you guys forgeting that this show is called the Dune :Prophecy, and basicly this series show how Prophecy of Kwisatz Haderach its created, showed or discoverd ?That my thought about this 👍
I think that final scene in epsiode 2, he knew the voice has no effect on him, but played along anyway to see her reaction. Like he said after, he was interested in finding out her true fear. So I dont think he just managed to resist last second, I think she had no control from the beginning, and he just played along. Notice he kinda goes slow with taking out the knife, and putting it to his throat, there are pauses in his responses after every of her commands. Normally the people being controlled by the Voice, just jump to.
Watches the first 2 episodes and calling it now..... Real Desmond is dead and that's just Desmond's body being possessed by lady who died in pilot episode( Leila's mother) . Hence the real hatred for sisterhood (or what it has become) and especially the Reverend mother. I could see it in the eyes the way Desmond character was fixated on her and looked at her with such intensity. Remember Leila could not see her mother during agony because she wasn't there.
started off well and turned into hot trash once they started fleshing out Travis's story. basing that show on kids ruined it... kids were insufferable... i would literally fast forward through the CAMPion sections....
12:57 I'm pretty sure you've seen Leto II in a vision, although the vision is symbolic. The first vision showing a giant sandworm eating the Sisterhood's Keep on Wallach IX is a good symbolic representation of what Leto II does to the Sisterhood.
Valya starts figuring out the voice in Sisterhood of Dune, the scene where she uses it against Dorotea is straight from Mentats of Dune, it happens almost straight from the book. But she keeps the voice a secret for a long time, she only uses it a few times. And one other person was able to resist the voice besides Desmont, she tried to use the voice on Vorian Ateides at the end of Navigators of Dune but he resists it.
Dune prophecy is (so far) a cerebral pursuit worthy of the Dune tradition. Although It will likely not appeal to an "intelligence quotient" unimpressed by psychopathology, or by political intrigue and religiosity ( greater or lesser lolol). I say that meaning no slight, It is after-all a cerebral pursuit, and a worthy pursuit in my estimation. If what one is after has more to do with entertainment than art, this series makes little sense, and probably will be viewed through whatever colors that particular view. We often smother any possibility of depth with jargon or drivel. To my mind this series does well enough what the acolyte attempted, but so dreadfully and woefully failed to accomplish (at least so far). We will see how it progresses. We will see in what direction it bends. But until then I will not reserve judgement so quickly as to miss what the artist is trying to impact upon me or empart. I'll watch so long as it doesn't go off the rails, or try to carry me off the rails - good job so far. Good review.❤🙏
They really could have chosen better looking characters. We watch moving pictures because we like to see something pretty, beautiful and cool. Other than that it’s not terrible. The second episode was much better than the first. Let’s see how things go in episode 3. Episode one 6/10, ep2 6.5-7/10.
I think the two Joe's opinions nail science fiction audiences. There are two classes: there are scifi nerds and franchise purists. You have to make them happy or they will crush your series/movies on social media to their hardcore audiences. Then you have the bread and butter movie goers/subscribers that your success will hinge on once it makes it past the core audience. You have to sink both baskets for a sci-fi hit. The reboot of Battlestar Galactica and Aliens are great case studies in how to build a franchise and sink both baskets.
I remember reading Brian's 860 pages of fan-fiction. Oh my... It wasn't good, even for a fan-fiction. So, ok, 12 years later I don't remember much of it, but I can say that this HBO series plot occurs AFTER the events of this "Sisterhood of Dune" book. Now, I didn't expect anything, but I'm still disappointed, because, Imho, Brian's cannon sucks and this show is 100% Brian's cannon accurate.
Anything with 6 episode will always be poorly paced and boring. its a 2 hour story stretched out so they can call it a show and get folks to subscribe. It's basically an advertisement for the streaming service at this point with some story and visuals thrown in. 6 episodes. This was not made with the goal of entertaining and telling a good story, it was made with the goal of getting subscriber to streaming services. This type of show is way to transparent in 2024. 6 episode tells it all.
I like the overall story so far. The sex scenes are not needed. The characters are all jerks. Dialog could use improving, but I like the world except for the chips that give info that's kind of weak.
This show is a 6 for me atm. The idea is really cool, but the execution is super lackluster. The dialogue is just ok, the shots feels like more like an stw show than a dune show and the intrigue who characterize dune is not there, there's mistery surrounding Desmond powers, but that's it. All the characters feels bland and one note. The club scene doesn't belong in a Dune story either. The Emperor sucks, he looks like a dumb kid who doesn't know what he's doing and the whole cast feels miss cast and watching Travis Fimmel doing the same role for the third time is soooo boring. Idk, atm I feel super dissapointed at the show.
I thought it was pretty good, don’t completely understand the pacing complaints. The one thing that bothers me is how similar this world feels to the one from the movies. 10,000 years have passed between them, that long ago on our planet there were no written languages but in this series the atredies house exists, the harkonens exist, the bene geserit exist and the no.1 commodity is spice and the biggest problem in obtaining spice are the fremin.
I'm just not interested in more "TV wrtiters pull something out of their ass and slap the name of a beloved book on it". If this goes on we'll get a To Kill a Mockingbird tv series about grown up Scout solving crimes or some shit.
The last thing you should do is to ask a random UA-camr if something is worth it to watch. If you want to know if it's worth it to watch, there's only one way to find out...
So at this point in the lore that this show is set in, the Sisterhood is not called the Bene Gesserit yet, and they have not discovered the water of life poison yet, they are still using poisons developled on the original Sisterhood planet of Rossak.
my issue Benny and the Jets is that all this power, influence, intrigue, all this pain, suffering, sacrifice and deaths all lead to.....nothing. after ten thousand years, it all boils down to just ONE card carrying Benny and the Jets member to actually fall in love with her husband and lovingly give him what HE wanted, which is a son, which Benny and the Jets DID NOT want and for good reason. the ENTIRE series then works on undoing all the damage for humanity this single act lead to and ends essentially with humanity going back to square one.
I think dune is a slow burn and I feel getting bored through parts of the episodes, but I say it is also good and probably worth the watch and it will pay of. I also found a lot of episode of game of thrones boring, but watched the whole thing because there were always 1 or 2 episodes in a season that really paid of. I'll give this the game of thrones treatment.
Without having watched the review yet, so far it's been OK/aight. Probably worth watching if you're interested in the universe, but do expect some of the dialogue to be pretty meh. They also ripped the aesthetic pretty much straight out of the movies though, and it's a little a bit strange how it seems barely anything changes over 10000 years. Remember, that's longer than all of recorded human history, with all the massive amount of change that has happend in that time. Entire cultures, languages coming and going etc. So like i'd probably rate it maybe a 6-6.5 so far.
It’s bad kinda. The sisterhood parts are cringy and give of “the power of one, the power of many” vibes. If you skip the sisterhood parts it’s not bad. Unfortunately some the show is smooth the sisterhood, you have to skip a lot and makes watching it almost pointless.
Agree, the girl school drama with the bully and such is so worn out. And so unimportant compared to the political tensions that's happening at the same time.
For me I think it's just that the Penguin set up such a high bar for HBO sundays. But this isn't really that bad, I'm actually enjoying it bc it kinda exposes a lot about the Dune lore for me. I don't really know much about it, so it's kinda cool learning about each family/house and the origins of the Bene Gesserit
@@바보Queen If you're talking about the Penguin, pretty sure it was only supposed to be one season(with the caveat that i haven't finished watching it yet).
Mr. Angry, in Christianity there is a concept of dual fulfillment of prophecies, usually one in the short term and one in the long term. It could be, then, that the prophecy is fulfilled more than once, once in the near term and then again in Paul.
C'mon Joe, you have to get out of this abusive relationship. Alex is obviously a bully - physical assault should seriously be the last straw. People are here for you.
Genuine question: if a show like the sopranos or breaking bad coming out THIS YEAR (2024) instead early 2000s, do you guys think that show gonna have the same praise as they are now?? Think about it.. people nowadays cant stand slow pace series.. their attention span is cooked... im 1000% sure people would called it "boring"
There is a difference between a character driven story, where the audience are invested in the character/s and can handle a slower pace, and plot driven stories, where the characters merely exist to facilitate the plot happening, and if the pace slows it does indeed get boring, because there's no other reason to watch the show.
Breaking bad was boring at times. And the Sopranos had some stinker episodes and story arcs too. But can you imagine having to wait a week to watch something that Everybody else was watching at the same time?!? And if you missed it, you had a second chance to watch it later that week?
Not everybody likes your favourite show. Nothing to do with release date or pacing. I am an old fart, so my attention span is not that of an average tik tok kid and I still find this boring as hell. Unlikeable characters and a boring story. No tension AT ALL. Notice, I said tension not action! The premise, setting, factions and atmosphere are actually not that bad, it's just that the writers don't have anything interesting to say. And yes there are a bunch of currently running shows that I still enjoy like From for example.
@ okay, kid. Maybe read up on recent history. I wasn’t even a fan. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t an objectively well written, profanity and violence laced, cultural phenomenon. It received word-wide recognition.
It's a good series, just hope they tone down the sex scenes because the one in chapter 2 was too long and was too damn awkward lmao. Like they were going at it for minutes
lmao really? I'll be watching this anyway, interested to see if it is more awkward as you say, that long in a show or movie tends to get awkward. Cuz they can't go real real, but... you watching a movie/show.. anyway.
It really felt force.. Almost as If they wanted to say "Look, I know we have plenty of women and feminism in our show, but here are some tits and sex for you, Guys! Please like our show " 😂
The best part of Dune Prophecy is the prospect of Desmond Hart killing off all these unlikable characters.
That's kinda the point of the series... in Dune, there are no likable characters.
Can't wait for him to kill that princess bitch.
Quinn's ideas shout-out hell yes that guy needs way more subs
He is verry good XD
Would not be surprised at all if he writes his own very successful sci fi series
@@blankname6629actually his own story is nearly done! It’s called “The Lie Behind the Star”.
@@blankname6629 my thoughts exactly man…very talented and creative lad
I went to him for the ASOIAF videos, stayed for his Dune/3 body problem vids, a true GOAT
10k years before Paul and we got characters talking like they're high schoolers. This ain't it.
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The CW presents: Dune High
Had same thoughts, Super disciplined sisters than can control their body on the cellular level and master manipulators acting like high schoolers. Everyone lacks retainers, princess is able to go to a club? the emperors heir without bodyguards? where are the house mentats? they are the chief advisors also where the hell is the spacing guild? bad enough the film didnt depict the second main power in the galaxy pulling the strings.
Modern Hollywood writing is controlled by the blue hairs and it shows.
the biggest problem i have is they not being truthful and saying that brain Herbert is where they are plotting the story around his books and lore
"The power of one, the power of two, the power of mannnyyyyyyy"
As a big fan of Frank Herbert's works and not a fan at all of Brian Herbert's work, I went in to this with pretty low expectations. And the show did a pretty good job of barely reaching my expectations. I'll finish watching it out of morbid curiosity, but unless it makes a major shift for the better, I wouldn't recommend the show to anyone.
😅 Same with me.
It’s not the butlerian Jihad anymore it’s the great machine war because we can’t say jihad on tv anymore.
Good because Frank doesn't know what a Jihad is.
@@carontorliak2760found the angry Islamist here 🤣 proving the OPs point in minutes
samething heppened with Vampire the Masquerade. it use to be called Jihad.
Who cares though?
@@anthonyreyna8350what are you trying to do, here?
HBO should’ve done a series about the Butlerian Jihad rather than a Benny and the Jets origin story.
Nooooo. Omnius. Nooo. Back to deep space with you!
I dont know if it was part of the re writes but they had a pretty good idea. They pulled a brian herbert on brian and made this series post 'sisterhood of dune' book. So, really, they are very free to do what they want in the plot while staying within the larger universe.
Only if it was based on Frank Herbert's original idea of the Butlerian Jihad... and not the War Against the Machines ripoff fabricated by Brian Herbert & Kevin J. Anderson.
If it was the Brian Herbert Butlerian Jihad, I would actively be telling everyone I know to actively not watch that garbage. I've read the first two of those book (only Brian books I've read) and didn't even finish the series. I almost never quit series in the middle. I've never written fiction but I could probably do better. At least, I'd be closer to what Frank was getting at.
Would have just ended up as a bad terminator rip off
nah that would have been kind of whack. the Ware against the Thinking Machines is more about humanities over reliance of technology to think for them and control of humanity. Sure the actual Jihad would have the action you are probably thinking of, but the build up is more the important part and that would be, if done well, a more cerebral Thriller of Butler uncovering the conspiracy of the machines.
Raised By Wolves! That really pissed me off that they cancelled it. I hate when they do that.
It got sooo good too Wtf was the tree thing!!!😭
I've found my people I thought I was the only who like raised by wolves. it's funny how both the actors came back in different HBO shows.
Me too guys i'm so sad, now we'll never know the full interesting lore behind it
They did the same to Westworld 😡😡😡😡
Season two really fell off.
The best part of David Lynchs Dune was actually the battle pug that Patrick Stewart takes into battle.
LONG LIVE THE FIGHTERS!
That scene was more memorable than anything in this new show thus far 😅
best part is when he says "ATOMICS!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I don't know about that. Sting in a speedo is an image that's still in my head 40 years later!
@ that says more about you than the movie 😂
I don't get the hate - I've read the book, seen the movies... watched the other tv show... I think this was awesome.
I really am kinda shocked at the reception, I mean putting this into the dune cinematic/tv world Id say this is definitely at the higher end of production/result.
I thought it was great and I recommend to anyone who is interested in this universe.
Me too man. But I also get that people would find Dune boring but to me is fascinating
Watching this only for Ragnar
Ragnar in anything is the only reason why I watch anything when I see him lol.
Literally why I clicked to watch it last night 😭
1000%. I love travis fimmel! That performance is legendary.
This is the only reason (apart from the scenography) to watch this show...
I watch these for Alex.
AJ tries to pass himself off as sophisticated all the time and when he likes stuff like this, his inner pleb shows.
"The power of Spice, The power of Dune... The power of Mannny."
Normie comment here
Robert Baratheon and Ragnar Lothbrok are in this.
So is Merlin.
even the cast isn't original
@@Gungadin-c1w that doesn’t make sense
People watch Dune for the politics between the great Houses, but the series tried to stuff those girl school Hogwarts type drama in there, which nobody cares because it is so insignificant compared to the political tensions between the worlds and Houses.
the intrigue is LITERALLY high school drama... even in the books.... the whole rivalry between Atreides and Harkonnen is LITERAL high school drama... read it man... Jesus I feel like these comments are all very opinionated hardcore fans of Frank Herberts dune WHO HAVE NEVER READ OR SEEN THE MOVIES OR BOOKS...
Nobles in Dune engage in a ritualistic form of argument where they send insulting or threatening poetry to each other in a very specific and structure way and format, sometimes for years.
Im not sure what political intrigue or universe you had in mind - but High School drama has always been Dunes format of storytelling.
@zszempty None of these people have read the books or they wouldn't be saying such stupid bandwagon me too crap.
@@brandong.1337 a lot of comments here are people who got traumatized with the Acolyte and don"t even understand Dune so they see a show about a group of women then decide it must be bad
Skip to around 7:00 for the Alex review, the real review
It's all opinion, don't like it, don't watch🤡
Lol
@xemera1d That's such a weird thing to say.
One has to watch something in order to know if they like it.
🙏🏻
Calm down
The only reason I gave this show a chance was because it had Travis Fimmel and so far he’s the only reason to watch. Whenever he’s on screen, it’s compelling. When he’s not on screen, I’m bored.
exactly. i like the dune movies but came for Travis Fimmel and so far he has barely been in it lol
Man, I started watching the first episode and it did not grab me. I quit half way on the first episode. The Benny and the jets storyline is not great, plus it's boring. They should have just did the Butlerian Jihad storyline for the whole season. I'm done with the space witches at this point in my life. The Power of Manyyyyyyyyy........... left a bad taste in my mouth.
Same for me. Expo dumps one after the other and sub-Kung Fu training for the gals.... NOPE.
Travis Fimmel is already carrying this on his back and he's barely in it. Half the dialog is terrible. Half the casting is terrible. Half the characters are complete morons. The exposition is heavy. How did HBO of all studios manage to miss this opportunity?
Because it's based on shit tier writing by Brian Herbert and Kevin Anderson. This isn't Frank Herberts Dune
Ragnar is carrying this shooow haaaaard rn. His screen presence is just unmatched. They needed more people on his level, cause the other actors can't keep up and have a CW feel to them.
He's the reason I even wanted to watch this show after seeing him in Raised By Wolves.
Dune has always been exposition heavy, regardless the Herbert who wrote it. I feel like the son’s stuff actually had more speed to it, and more teen angst.
I haven’t seen the show yet, but it sounds like you are both right, and have different tastes, and expectations.
I’m not watching it. Definitely doesn’t sound like my vibe.
lemme help you - Travis is great in this, he is written well to boot.
Shows pretty good - I challenge you to write better dialogue, this is better than 90% of whats on TV.
Casting is spot on, feels right to me and Im a Dune fan.
Chars are supposed to be morons, they live in a time of fear and class stratification - the nobles are venal and inept... the soldiers have fluid loyalties, the emperor is an indecisive dolt relying on the sisterhood for everything.... this all tracks and makes sense in this universe.
I dont get your criticism and I think you should try watching the show again if you like Dune.... if not thats ok too.
Why couldn’t they change it to like 200-300 years before Dune. That would have made a lot more sense.
I would argue that those huge time skips make sense for Dune.
@ the time skip that made sense for me was the one for Leto ||. 3500 years with a tyrant that kept everything stagnant, and still the social political and ecological situation on Arrakis is changed drastically. This series has roughly same social and political environment and the same visuals as the movies but there is a 10000 year gap here, it’s hard to suspend disbelief.
Yeah, the worlds and settings are WAY too similar to the Dune movies. If it were 10,000 years before it would be drastically different. I mean just think about what the world looked like 10,000 years ago on Earth.
You literally get taught in high school english class that the very beginning of everything you write needs a strong hook or people don’t want to read the rest. This goes over to movies/shows also. They definitely didn’t do well with their hook.
What hook lol they totally failed the absolute basics
Guess it's standard dune " book" writing
yes - that hook in War & Peace and the Decameron are absolute bangers - good thing Tolstoy and Alighieri were listening in high school english class...
Tolkien also well known for his shire based BANGERS to start off his genre establishing lingual masterpiece that is foundational to the English language, with ZERO exposition.
You are delusional :)
@@TeamGames19 with that logic, Dune must be a bad bood because a lot of people can't get to read it. I think its well written
@ bad hook doesnt necessarily mean bad book. It is just supposed to get people interested enough to keep reading after the first chapter
If people dislike this show how TF did they like the movies which never featured The Guild or The Imperium or the Landsraad or the function of Spice in the economy/psychic use
The Dune film’s huge success is a complete mystery to me. I have no idea what about them appealed to the masses.
Dune can be enjoyed on a large or small scale. the classic dune is a medieval society set in a hi sci-fi age.
From there it almost becomes like warhammer with insane galactic wars and monster god emperors.
I enjoyed the first book the most but get why people like the other books too.
the movies missed 95% of it but were good visually.
Reminds me Acolyte. During the first episode I expected the diverse group of high school looking girls to start chanting “the power of one, the power of many”.
The bigotry is strong with this one
The problem I see with this show is that there're so many characters and the pacing feels off and boring. I'd say people who don't know anything about Dune will feel lost the entire season because it feels like the show was made for hardcore fans only. The average person will feel bored. Hell even Alex was bored. Unfortunately I was too.
Anything with 6 episode will always be poorly paced and boring. its a 2 hour story stretched out so they can call it a show and get folks to subscribe. It's basically an advertisement for the streaming service at this point with some story and visuals thrown in. This was not made with the goal of entertaining and telling a good story, it was made with the goal of getting subscriber to streaming services.
I'm into it and I'm not a hardcore fan.
Im starting to feel a large part of commenters hating havnt actually seen this show lol...did you just skim through 10mins and make up your mind...
I am a fan, never read or going to read Brians efforts... in terms of Dune cinematic/tv adaptations - this is right up there, there are not 'many characters'... you were introduced to more chars in the first 10mins of Lynchs Dune... you were introduced to DOUBLE that in SyFy's show.
Apart from the catty ginger and ethnic shrek Id say all the chars are well written and interesting so far.
@@deljonfinister3598 Can you tell us why?
This I dont understand. They make a show for Dune newcommers ane everyone complains. They make a show that show loves for details in the lore and that is bad also
Other Joe: there's not enough bright colors. It's boring. Alex: there's too many women. It's boring.
It's not a 10 but Joe is right. This is a good show with good acting. The story is intriguing. I like it.
Pretty much my impression too. It's a *fine* show. Nothing grounbreaking or anything, particularily the dialogue, but so far i'd say it's been worth to watch. And i came in with pretty low expectations after hearing early reviews were shit
I really, really don't like it so far
As a Frank Herbert Dune fan....Naaah. I do geek out on some concepts shown in the show (like the Spice agony), but I don't feel that Brian Herbert vision of the past is something I will ever gel with. And it's not particularly interesting to anyone who does not know Dune lore.
You can't know that.
I don't know dune lore and I thinks it's alright.
This show is really surprising good. For once I’m on AJs and against the comments. Feel like many of you are caught up by The Acolyte lol we get it The Acolyte was the worst shit ever but this isn’t so bad.
I agree, as a casual dune fan who just watched the first film this year right in time for the 2nds release, I find it entertaining enough
I'm definitely loving the show, I didn't go into this show expecting action and fights. It's all political intrigue and it does it very well so far
@@z3roninja565 same I’m enjoying it a lot. I don’t know if it’s because we aren’t hardcore fans of dune. I usually side with Alex and OJ of stuff but for this one I have to disagree and agree with AJ.
I don't have much hope for this series after hearing all the pre-production problems it faced. And the fact it is weighed down by a weak foundation due to its lackluster source material (ie: a book not written by Frank Herbert). I'll be pleasantly surprised if the show ends up far better than what we have now... which I want it to be.
The show is painfully boring. We don’t need to know the backstory of the shadow faction, and in any case, Paul Atreides makes them obsolete since he was a success contrary to their core plans, and he has the Voice™️, which is their only claim to fame.
The show is really fuckin good. Love all of the characters. Everything is absolutely stunning in this show.
Brian Herbert's books are the reason pocket sand was invented. If anyone suggests you read one throw a handful of it in their face and flee to the nearest exit. Even if it’s a window.
I don't think they are that bad lol. They definitely aren't Heretics, they definitely aren't his fathers unique prose. They are very generically written. But I did like the universe. I did like the expansion of the lore. I very much enjoyed Sandworms (I think it's the last one lol, there were so many, whichever is the 2 part conclusion) I liked the conclusion that is supposedly the way Herbert wanted his series to end. I think it was at least partly his intent, because in rereading, he does telegraph heavily who the Kwizatz Haderach was going to end up being. Having said all this...I bought Paul of Dune when it released in hardcover, never read it, and never even looked at another subsequent book after that lol. I just needed to know how the story ended I guess.
@@GaudiaCertaminisGaming Kevin J Anderson doesn't get enough hate for his 50% contribution to this fucking dumpster fire of extended universe bullshit.
I hadn't read any of BH or KJA stuff and found like 17 of their Dune books on a sale in bulk. Worst purchase decision I ever made.
Absolutely fantastic! I’m definitely going to use that “invention of pocket sand” sometime in the future.
I’ll probably use the nearest exit also.
I think most of the Dune books had Slow sections, but there was only one I regret reading. It was at least 25 years ago, but I’m pretty sure it was book 4 or 5.
It wasn’t the one with the female protagonist.
@@goodrabbi7176 oh lord I don't even remember a female protagonist lol. My problem is I read all the "House" prequels, the Butlerian trilogy and then the ones that proceeded Chapterhouse and I couldn't tell you which one was which...except the last 2, and only because of what happens to Arakis and who the Kwizatz was revealed to be. I don't even remember both parts, I just remember it was a 2 parter lol. I think I liked the Omnius and Erasmus books. I guess they weren't that bad if I read them all lol. Its like 20 books.
Na, collect their water.
5:54 This is an example of newer fans not knowing the lore. Desmond may be a bad guy, but he is not the only bad guy. The 3rd and especially the 4th novels make it clear that Valya is NOT on the side of the angels.
I think by the end of the series we'll find that Desmond is one of those wonderful bad guys who actually has a valid point to make.
Most people seem to expect this show to be another "girl bosses are the bestest ever" show, but I believe, based on what I know about the Dune lore, that this show is going to upend that. It may not do a complete reversal, but I am certain that it will at the very least show that some girl bosses are absolutely toxic.
Yep, there are not bad guys in Dune and yeah. A lot of people here have this weird take on the Bene Gesserit maybe they are too influenced by other shows or other franchises
We can never have something good these days without a -verse in the making right away.
Dune has over 26 books it was inevitable that they would make a show based on one of the books
I only clicked in here to answer the question.
My answer to said question is... YES.
I have to tip the hat for slowly burning a little boy alive in the first episode. Gotta admit that's what kept me watching to see how wild shit would get.
I'm a fan of the Dune movies and recently The Penguin. I think this biggest problem with this show is that it's shallow. There just isn't any depth. It feels like a very expensive CW show. I really want to like it. But I'm having a hard time. So many of the characters have no distinct personality. They just say lines. And based on what they say "defines" the character. So much of the shows dialogue feels empty bc its like reading a script rather than seeing people be emotional. You can distinctly define any character in Pengiun. In Dune I really can't. I just know Ragnar is playing Ragnar lol
THIS is exactly how I felt about the Dune movies when compared to the Lynch ones. Villeneuve movies are all flair no heart.
@Dakhor weird. Bc the dune movies are praised across the board. This show is kind of lame. And Timothy carries in dune 2. Very emotional acting so I have to disagree. When he is doing his speech I got chills. 2 episodes in of dune show I'm barely staying awake. And I just finished from which is notoriously low budget but a fun show. Dune TV is just cw on hbo
@@Dakhor I'd reverse that. Lynch is all style no substance.
Travis Fimmel is as always, slaying. Absolutely phenomenal actor, and the whole overall cast is fantastic!
Couldn't disagree more. I think he's terribly boring and plays literally the exact same character and everything. It's just sci-fi Ragnar.
@ this guy is literally a psychotic rebel with delusions of grandeur, completely incomparable to Ragnar. Characters have nothing in common in any way. Ragnar was a far more in depth and complex character, and had the time for such
The unknown man is Leto II using the flow of time and spice to go back and fullfill the self fulfilling prophecy.
The marketing for this has been terrible. I didn't even know Ragnar was in it.
SciFi's _Dune_ & _Children of Dune_ miniseries is the only good _Dune_ TV show... if only because it faithfully follows _Dune_ lore as written by Frank Herbert. Yes, it has its problems. But at least it is most faithful to the books.
It is really mehh
this is inarguably better... I think if Ewan could go back in time, he'd tell himself not to do that show it was that bad...
I still loved it, but I am a fan.
Children of Dune was and is incredible and I personally can’t wait to see God Emperor of Dune someday and hopefully we see Children of Dune after Denis does Dune Messiah unless his Dune Messiah does include Children of Dune secretly
Quinn is awesome.
9:48 One problem here is that the Bene Tleilax play a big role in the next film. Another problem is that the choices the Sisterhood makes in this show are important in understanding their actions in the next film.
Here are some things the show needs to set up:
1. How the Bene Gesserit are different than the Bene Tleilax.
2. The Bene Gesserit view of gholas and artificial insemination.
3. The Bene Gesserit drive to manipulate others instead of guiding them.
4. What a ghola is.
5. How the Sisterhood failed, so that you'll understand what happens to Paul, Chani, and their children.
6. How Other Memory works.
These are all fairly complex topics that aren't going to be explained in a 3 hour movie without a LOT of exposition.
Why can't they just say his secret and move on with the story?
Why are they stanching things so much?
Mark it in the history books the first time these dudes have ever disagreed on a movie or tv show
I've seen them disagree plenty before
Not gonna lie .. I enjoyed it.
Alex used to hate everything. Good to see a return to his core values with what he likes in his entertainment 😂
@@edboymovies don't think I ever have.
@@cowboywayne35is 7/10 vs 10/10 for arcane not disagreeing?
DUNE is not for everybody. I think it’s too boring for “Normies” If you have no background knowledge and haven’t read any DUNE novels you might be lost and/or bored. Hardcore DUNERS like myself are split on Prophecy as the expanded DUNIVERSE is often the subject of scorn beyond the Orignal Six Frank Herbert Books. I personally am digging it because it’s very “Space Game of Thrones”. After two episode in I’ll continue watching! I’m glad that Angry Joe digs it and the shoutout to Quinn’s Ideas was great!!!
I mean a lot of Dune fans say all books past the first one start to get on dodgy territory in regards to being good.
Not sure but you guys forgeting that this show is called the Dune :Prophecy, and basicly this series show how Prophecy of Kwisatz Haderach its created, showed or discoverd ?That my thought about this 👍
we finally converted Joe to the Golden path. The God Emperor will be proud
never liked dune, movies are kinda avg and the show is even more meh,
watch the day of the jackal that's some epic stuff!
I think that final scene in epsiode 2, he knew the voice has no effect on him, but played along anyway to see her reaction. Like he said after, he was interested in finding out her true fear. So I dont think he just managed to resist last second, I think she had no control from the beginning, and he just played along. Notice he kinda goes slow with taking out the knife, and putting it to his throat, there are pauses in his responses after every of her commands. Normally the people being controlled by the Voice, just jump to.
Only 6 EPISODES!? Thats just cruel
With all the genetic manipulations ... why are there bold people and unattractive people in the universe?
Because its not about aesthetics. They are nurturing personality and physical skills
@@Diogolindir Well there can never be to many charisma points.
@vavan100 I can't disagree with that statement. Good day to you!
Huge Raised by Wolves and Dune fan here. This show is AWESOME!!!!!
Watches the first 2 episodes and calling it now..... Real Desmond is dead and that's just Desmond's body being possessed by lady who died in pilot episode( Leila's mother) . Hence the real hatred for sisterhood (or what it has become) and especially the Reverend mother. I could see it in the eyes the way Desmond character was fixated on her and looked at her with such intensity. Remember Leila could not see her mother during agony because she wasn't there.
4:19 you can’t even watch Raised By Wolves anywhere!?!? Removed from Max and can’t find anywhere to re watch
Piracy to the rescue 😂
HBO Max did that show wrong
That’s insane!! The show was actually really good imo and was getting even better.
started off well and turned into hot trash once they started fleshing out Travis's story.
basing that show on kids ruined it... kids were insufferable... i would literally fast forward through the CAMPion sections....
Can't stop looking at Joe's eye 🤕
12:57 I'm pretty sure you've seen Leto II in a vision, although the vision is symbolic. The first vision showing a giant sandworm eating the Sisterhood's Keep on Wallach IX is a good symbolic representation of what Leto II does to the Sisterhood.
Valya starts figuring out the voice in Sisterhood of Dune, the scene where she uses it against Dorotea is straight from Mentats of Dune, it happens almost straight from the book. But she keeps the voice a secret for a long time, she only uses it a few times. And one other person was able to resist the voice besides Desmont, she tried to use the voice on Vorian Ateides at the end of Navigators of Dune but he resists it.
❤ Quinn's Ideas!
one MAJOR pushback n the "this would never happen"; its already happened, this is Hapsburgs in Space.
Dune prophecy is (so far) a cerebral pursuit worthy of the Dune tradition. Although It will likely not appeal to an "intelligence quotient" unimpressed by psychopathology, or by political intrigue and religiosity ( greater or lesser lolol). I say that meaning no slight, It is after-all a cerebral pursuit, and a worthy pursuit in my estimation. If what one is after has more to do with entertainment than art, this series makes little sense, and probably will be viewed through whatever colors that particular view. We often smother any possibility of depth with jargon or drivel. To my mind this series does well enough what the acolyte attempted, but so dreadfully and woefully failed to accomplish (at least so far). We will see how it progresses. We will see in what direction it bends. But until then I will not reserve judgement so quickly as to miss what the artist is trying to impact upon me or empart. I'll watch so long as it doesn't go off the rails, or try to carry me off the rails - good job so far. Good review.❤🙏
They really could have chosen better looking characters. We watch moving pictures because we like to see something pretty, beautiful and cool. Other than that it’s not terrible. The second episode was much better than the first. Let’s see how things go in episode 3. Episode one 6/10, ep2 6.5-7/10.
I think the two Joe's opinions nail science fiction audiences. There are two classes: there are scifi nerds and franchise purists. You have to make them happy or they will crush your series/movies on social media to their hardcore audiences. Then you have the bread and butter movie goers/subscribers that your success will hinge on once it makes it past the core audience. You have to sink both baskets for a sci-fi hit. The reboot of Battlestar Galactica and Aliens are great case studies in how to build a franchise and sink both baskets.
I remember reading Brian's 860 pages of fan-fiction. Oh my... It wasn't good, even for a fan-fiction. So, ok, 12 years later I don't remember much of it, but I can say that this HBO series plot occurs AFTER the events of this "Sisterhood of Dune" book. Now, I didn't expect anything, but I'm still disappointed, because, Imho, Brian's cannon sucks and this show is 100% Brian's cannon accurate.
Kevin Anderson needs some of the hate as well. He fucking horrible.
"fan-fiction"' is an odd way to spell "shallow opportunist capitalizing on his dead father's brand"
Anything with 6 episode will always be poorly paced and boring. its a 2 hour story stretched out so they can call it a show and get folks to subscribe. It's basically an advertisement for the streaming service at this point with some story and visuals thrown in. 6 episodes. This was not made with the goal of entertaining and telling a good story, it was made with the goal of getting subscriber to streaming services. This type of show is way to transparent in 2024. 6 episode tells it all.
Not surprising at all, since this series is based on a cash grab of a book. It didn't help matters that the show suffered problems in pre-production.
Quinn's Ideas is an amazing channel 10/10
I had to watch both episodes in 4 halves, 😴. It's scene after scene of someone entering a set, speaking to another person and leave.
I like the overall story so far. The sex scenes are not needed. The characters are all jerks. Dialog could use improving, but I like the world except for the chips that give info that's kind of weak.
I guess im subconsciously misogynistic cause i gave up after 20 mins in...
I like the show. Some people are NEVER satisfied
I could barely make it through the first episode…you must have to be a Dune lore lover to like it.
This show is a 6 for me atm. The idea is really cool, but the execution is super lackluster. The dialogue is just ok, the shots feels like more like an stw show than a dune show and the intrigue who characterize dune is not there, there's mistery surrounding Desmond powers, but that's it. All the characters feels bland and one note. The club scene doesn't belong in a Dune story either. The Emperor sucks, he looks like a dumb kid who doesn't know what he's doing and the whole cast feels miss cast and watching Travis Fimmel doing the same role for the third time is soooo boring.
Idk, atm I feel super dissapointed at the show.
I couldn't even get through it. As someone said on a post somewhere, it's just a bunch of old ladies plotting schemes. It's boring ASF
I thought it was pretty good, don’t completely understand the pacing complaints. The one thing that bothers me is how similar this world feels to the one from the movies. 10,000 years have passed between them, that long ago on our planet there were no written languages but in this series the atredies house exists, the harkonens exist, the bene geserit exist and the no.1 commodity is spice and the biggest problem in obtaining spice are the fremin.
10000 years before the original Dune trilogy and the basic conflicts are essentially the same as in the books?
I don't believe it.
I'm just not interested in more "TV wrtiters pull something out of their ass and slap the name of a beloved book on it". If this goes on we'll get a To Kill a Mockingbird tv series about grown up Scout solving crimes or some shit.
Don't give them ideas
This is what you get when you opt to make a prequel spinoff based on the horrible books that Frank Herbert’s son wrote.
The last thing you should do is to ask a random UA-camr if something is worth it to watch. If you want to know if it's worth it to watch, there's only one way to find out...
So at this point in the lore that this show is set in, the Sisterhood is not called the Bene Gesserit yet, and they have not discovered the water of life poison yet, they are still using poisons developled on the original Sisterhood planet of Rossak.
Is it worth watching? yes
If you sat there and watched the entire children of dune show you can watch this 😂
The dates for things are wildly off the established lore.
my issue Benny and the Jets is that all this power, influence, intrigue, all this pain, suffering, sacrifice and deaths all lead to.....nothing. after ten thousand years, it all boils down to just ONE card carrying Benny and the Jets member to actually fall in love with her husband and lovingly give him what HE wanted, which is a son, which Benny and the Jets DID NOT want and for good reason. the ENTIRE series then works on undoing all the damage for humanity this single act lead to and ends essentially with humanity going back to square one.
I liked Dune after the first movie released. I loved Dune after I found Quinn’s Ideas UA-cam channel. Excellent shout out
Its not her mother, its her grandmother. The original is her great grandmother. Shed have to be 30 years old minimum for it to be her mother.
I think dune is a slow burn and I feel getting bored through parts of the episodes, but I say it is also good and probably worth the watch and it will pay of. I also found a lot of episode of game of thrones boring, but watched the whole thing because there were always 1 or 2 episodes in a season that really paid of. I'll give this the game of thrones treatment.
Without having watched the review yet, so far it's been OK/aight. Probably worth watching if you're interested in the universe, but do expect some of the dialogue to be pretty meh.
They also ripped the aesthetic pretty much straight out of the movies though, and it's a little a bit strange how it seems barely anything changes over 10000 years.
Remember, that's longer than all of recorded human history, with all the massive amount of change that has happend in that time. Entire cultures, languages coming and going etc.
So like i'd probably rate it maybe a 6-6.5 so far.
It is better than i expected. Ragnar's character is cool.
Quinns ideas is great for Sci-fi. Check out his friend "David lightbringer" if your into
Song of ice and fire deep dives.
I do not like it:(
It’s decent, they’re setting up for the rest of the season so really depends how it all turns out
😂 naive still
I find Joe seems to have his feelings hurt when the other two dont agree with his opinion.
Agreed, its pretty annoying when they disagree and he tries to force them to back down.
He's a fanboy acting like a critic
It’s ok. Not bad. Not amazing.
the power of moneeeeeeeeeeeeey
It’s bad kinda. The sisterhood parts are cringy and give of “the power of one, the power of many” vibes. If you skip the sisterhood parts it’s not bad. Unfortunately some the show is smooth the sisterhood, you have to skip a lot and makes watching it almost pointless.
Agree, the girl school drama with the bully and such is so worn out. And so unimportant compared to the political tensions that's happening at the same time.
For me I think it's just that the Penguin set up such a high bar for HBO sundays. But this isn't really that bad, I'm actually enjoying it bc it kinda exposes a lot about the Dune lore for me. I don't really know much about it, so it's kinda cool learning about each family/house and the origins of the Bene Gesserit
we gonna get selena kyle next season?
@@바보Queen If you're talking about the Penguin, pretty sure it was only supposed to be one season(with the caveat that i haven't finished watching it yet).
Without watching and knowing nothing about it, I feel confident in saying: No
Mr. Angry, in Christianity there is a concept of dual fulfillment of prophecies, usually one in the short term and one in the long term. It could be, then, that the prophecy is fulfilled more than once, once in the near term and then again in Paul.
He gave 7/10 for EP1 and 8/10 for EP2 - save yourself the time
C'mon Joe, you have to get out of this abusive relationship.
Alex is obviously a bully - physical assault should seriously be the last straw.
People are here for you.
Love sifi. I agree raised by wolves getting canceled was... horrible.
Honestly its still the best sifi ever made imo
Genuine question: if a show like the sopranos or breaking bad coming out THIS YEAR (2024) instead early 2000s, do you guys think that show gonna have the same praise as they are now?? Think about it.. people nowadays cant stand slow pace series.. their attention span is cooked... im 1000% sure people would called it "boring"
There is a difference between a character driven story, where the audience are invested in the character/s and can handle a slower pace, and plot driven stories, where the characters merely exist to facilitate the plot happening, and if the pace slows it does indeed get boring, because there's no other reason to watch the show.
Breaking bad was boring at times. And the Sopranos had some stinker episodes and story arcs too.
But can you imagine having to wait a week to watch something that Everybody else was watching at the same time?!?
And if you missed it, you had a second chance to watch it later that week?
Not everybody likes your favourite show. Nothing to do with release date or pacing. I am an old fart, so my attention span is not that of an average tik tok kid and I still find this boring as hell. Unlikeable characters and a boring story. No tension AT ALL. Notice, I said tension not action! The premise, setting, factions and atmosphere are actually not that bad, it's just that the writers don't have anything interesting to say. And yes there are a bunch of currently running shows that I still enjoy like From for example.
@ okay, kid. Maybe read up on recent history. I wasn’t even a fan. Doesn’t mean it wasn’t an objectively well written, profanity and violence laced, cultural phenomenon. It received word-wide recognition.
100% people would have called BB a "borefest"
It's a good series, just hope they tone down the sex scenes because the one in chapter 2 was too long and was too damn awkward lmao. Like they were going at it for minutes
its information gathering and sexposition. thats very common in the novels.
lmao really? I'll be watching this anyway, interested to see if it is more awkward as you say, that long in a show or movie tends to get awkward. Cuz they can't go real real, but... you watching a movie/show.. anyway.
The whole show cant just be non stop action its a space opera not an action show..
For me the sex scene is like they try to attempt to pull more audience.
It really felt force.. Almost as If they wanted to say "Look, I know we have plenty of women and feminism in our show, but here are some tits and sex for you, Guys! Please like our show " 😂