Michael Shellenberger, Andy Ngo, Calvin Robinson and Gerard Casey | Ireland Free Speech Summit panel
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- Опубліковано 2 лип 2024
- Michael Shellenberger is an American bestselling author and journalist, who has broken major stories including the 'Twitter Files'. Andy Ngo is a journalist and author. He is a senior editor at The Post Millennial.
Father Calvin Robinson is an Old Catholic priest serving in an Anglican parish. He is also a broadcaster, writer and host of the online show the Common Sense Crusade, which looks at current events from a Christian perspective. Gerard Casey is Professor Emeritus of Philosophy at University College Dublin and Honorary President of Free Speech Ireland.
Professor Casey gave an introductory speech to and chaired the 'Fireside Chat' conversation with these panellists at the Ireland Free Speech Summit, which was held on June 18 at Trinity College Dublin. The event was hosted by Free Speech Ireland and supported by ADF International.
Read more about the event, the proposed Irish “hate speech” bill and how 25% of Irish people already feel restricted in expressing their views, here: adfinternational.org/news/1-i...
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Listening from Canada. A journalist, myself. This panel has many of the freedom-greats that I have followed in recent years. Thank you for encouraging and empowering regular citizens the power our voice has when we rise up and speak up.
I totally agree with Father Calvo. We need to fight for our Christian values. Human beings are spiritual by nature and in the lack of the presence of God there’s a void. The preservation of our Christian Identity is fundamental to preserve our freedom from oppressing ideologies which are actively hunting to fill that void.
Let’s not forget, Christianity is our religion and we also have the right to believe, practice and defend our beliefs and values and to protect our children from ideologies that go against our own beliefs.
I used to be one of those atheists who thought we could replace religions with “right think.” But I failed to see the negatives that come with that - that the “correct belief” becomes just as oppressive as the religion we were trying to free ourselves from, if not more so, and that there’s no positives. No sense of community, no beauty, no holidays that foster family, and only negatives. All of the worst aspects of fundamentalism - judgment, anger, self righteous, restriction, but none of the beauty and sublime grace. We made a mistake eliminating religion wholesale.
Agree.
@@sarahmurphy-nf4yl It’s as if humanity cannot seem to stop itself from catering to the holier than though no matter what.
@@Accountdeactivated_1986it is really important to remember, God entered into this reality with us with the cross at calvary, he could have stayed outside time & space, coulda made an authoritarian utopia where we didn't have the free will to rebel.... he gave us an off-ramp to our madness, if we only humble ourselves in our pursuits
Atheist's have such a deep & abiding contempt for believers, they've become what they despise most; pontificating, self-righteous true believers. Of course,, they have nothing to show for it. Same with the w0ke, who worship the God of oppression & victimhood, cry sacramental tears of guilt, but there's no redemption. Both have abandoned God; that's the reason for all of this tribulation. I'm convinced it's a spiritual battle, which has strengthened my faith & will to do the necessary footwork. I know I'm not the only one. That's a blessing, really.
Religious people will remain so, in Ireland beliefs are strong, however the government coupled with the orders dismantled those strong beliefs to cover crimes. Walla cause and effect. ❤
Boy, Calvin - you’re tenacious in the Lord. I ❤️ it! From a sister in Christ.
Andy Ngo *cannot* pretend that things are better than they are - and why should he? He is devoted to truth.
I think it would be very hard for him to come up with positives. I've seen his channel. The footage from Portland Oregon is horrific.
Calvin Robinson is spot on, and it is wonderful to listen to a man who is strong in his faith. All these men speak sense and restore one's optimism. I can't agree that you can replace religion with secularism though, no matter how moral- the two things are not equal. Whatever your beliefs, we are spiritual beings and we need to acknowledge Love and Truth in a spiritual way.
One of my favorite things about Shellenberger is his sense of humor, "That's too gloomy, dude". In these crazy times, we need more laughter.
Thank you all.
I would say a Herculean task ahead to free Ireland from the direction the elites have steered , and pushed ..The depth of the cultural break , the generational break is enormous and the demographic position poor ., above all the sense of identity as Irish and distinct , is a breath away from the grave . I shall share this 15 times .Good job ..but ..a united and fully committed effort by all on the right is now needed . .Unity is urgent , together with superb organisation .
Common sense discussions.Much needed,We need more of these in Ireland.We are at crossroads now.Closing down conversations because it doesn't suit your narrative doesn't wash anymore.Fair play to all involved in this discussion,well done .God bless you all.
Thank you all for your hard work. Its so refreshing to listen to this, common sense spoken from an educated gentleman who knows what he is talking about. Well done sir.
Father Calvin, thanks for being you! Praise God from whom ALL blessings flow!
That was awesome and very much appreciated Any Ngo and Michael SchellenBerger for flying to Ireland and making themselves available in our ongoing battles to restore SANITY and in respective countries 💙🤍❤️🫡
BRAVO IRELAND 🇮🇪🇺🇸🇮🇪🇺🇸🫶
There is hope but the hour is late
Calvin is absolutely right.I recently saw Mohammadans praying en masse on O Connell street.I found that so disturbing.
Do you know that Islam is our SELF-DECLARED enemy?
The parts of the world not yet subjugated (the word Islam means submission) is called "the abode of war" in the theology.
The claim you will find online that Islam no longer defines itself as at war with the non-islamic world because Muslim countries signed the UN charter when they joined, is utter nonsense since the ideology rejects the authority of any nation-state, including Muslim ones.
What you saw on O'Connell Street was a direct statement of the intent to subjugate Ireland.
Demographics seem to make the Islamisation inevitable.
The mathematics are scary
That war is evidenced all the time - In Ireland already people have been killed in it. (2 men murdered with decapitation in their home to shouts of Allhuaakbar)
That state of declared war makes facilitating Islam in Ireland straightforward treason.
Treason was the last crime in Ireland to carry the death sentence - for years after it had been abolished for other crimes.
End of rant 😅
No doubt the police let them get on with it, just as they do in English cities. Laws against obstructing the road don't apply to Mohammedans, somehow.
Andy is a black pill but he has earned the gloom. Much love ❤ to Andy and all on this panel.
Great to see this meeting held✅🇨🇮
Standing up for the truth in a totalitarian culture is so important if we are to become free once again👊✅
A conversation about Totalitarian country's in a Totalitarian country.
Michael’s empathy is so evident, as are his responses to the topics. I am very impressed!
An enlightening discussion. Thanks to Trinity College Dublin.
Right for individuals, not groups. Same rights for everyone; NO SPECIAL CATEGORIES!
I don’t feel so alone
It’s so insane …..
Great discussion
Thankyou🕊🙏🏻🕊
Thank you for this, much appreciated. Full of admiration for Father Calvin for addressing the abortion genocide
Thank you, this has been both comforting and inspiring.🇨🇦🙏
Excellent, thanks to all involved
You will shut down medical mistreatment, but the legal mistreatment is likely to become more abusive.
Free speech INTERNATIONAL! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
By definition a circular definition is not a definition.
HATE SPEECH BILL is like something from the 1800s.
In Irelandistan will women have to wear the Burkha.
Thanks for sharing this conversation and keeping us informed of the cultural revolution forced upon Ireland!
In Sweden we consider ourselves to be enlightened citizens of "the most modern country in the world". Therefore we believe that we can invite millions of people from the least modern countries in world and upon arrival they will turn into Swedes. Now we have ended up with wokism and islamism in an unholy alliance against ordinary people with common sense, middle-of-the-road conservative views.
Thank God for free independent media where we can find common ground with people around world facing the same cultural challenges!
Great Conversation.
The hair looks better Calvin.
I think the Michael misunderstands the lack of force behind liberal thought. Just think of how the radical forces of the Jacobins so quickly pushed wise the liberals during the French Revolution. Burke saw immediately that Uprooting long developing institutions was like deforestation. The you can get is inferior second growth. and under certain circumstances, a desert landscape.
Thanks for the great panel discussion.
What an incredible event.
Tom Holland's book should be read by everyone
Which one?
@@bidbadgray Dominion, I'd imagine.
Im me. not a releigion
If your saying there is just male and female. Ok but if your telling me i have to be christian or muslim. Then i say no. I dont have to be
What you say. I belive in god but i dont need any middle man ti tell me god is there i dont need a church. I am my own person i harm none without someone or something telling me
To do so. If adults need to change their bodies thats their choice. I agree on children not doing so
Because they are to young.
What a great event! Thank you for these conversations!
I would like to hope that Michael is correct. Our future as a free society depends on it. We can be sure that the masked cowards who support gender and other ideological violence won't stop there. One hopes that breaking their intimidation will break their backs. Father Robinson is an articulate soldier in the war, but, I must agree with Michael that in the postmodern world, we have to find a way for one unable to make the Christian leap of faith to take part. That person must acknowledge the evolutionary character weaknesses they take into the battle, and not act with the self important hubris of the enemy.
"Self-important hubris". You haven't a shred of self-awareness. Come up with a convincing argument if you want to attract critical thinkers because it's abundantly clear you don't want to when taking a "leap of faith," as in absent any evidence, is required to jon the club.
I agree. Most people today don't want to believe in the mythology of Christianity, and it's insane to me to imagine a reality where that's the only way to a sane society. I am not an atheist but I'm not a Christian either, and wouldn't want to be. The theology makes no sense to me whatsoever. Yet I am not woke, not a biology denier, etc. If anything, the woke remind me of the christians of the past. There are many parallels.
@@wjdeoliveira3809 The main parallel is that they are both religions. But the precepts of Christianity require a humbled stance, even if humans cannot wholly succeed at taking one. Woke has nothing to balance the belief that its acolytes are morally superior, and their beliefs are true just because they say so-- and ONLY because they say so. Instead of The Golden Rule, it's Rule of the Golden.
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There are many more parallels: Woke/epiphany/born again, privilege/original sin, gender/soul, cancelling/excommunication/shunning, etc, etc. Woke is very much rooted in Christian culture.
@@barrykochverts4149 It's not like the different churches, especially the Catholic Church, historically has taken a "humble stance"... To the contrary. Calvin Robinson's stance also isn't exactly "humble". It's a bit offputting in its arrogance, to be honest, and it reminds me of woke ideologues.
If I’m not wrong, baby boomers like myself can’t believe these discussions are actually occurring. 🤨🤔😖
4 Males together, thought that was illegal…..
We have thrown the baby out with the bath water, and the bath as well…..
More of this please 👍🏼
Good thought provoking conversation
Father Calvin thank you for speaking the truth ❤️
Historical times
Historical resistance required
#MHLivingHistoryLeapyear2024
Good job Calvin x God bless x
Excellent presentarion.
An idea for the free speech unions: do some "research" by imposing free speech rights by pretending to be extreme islamics and doing things like silent prayer wearing islamic gear and film what happens. 😂 I support free speech and Ireland and the West and democracy. ❤
I used to be puzzled by the use of the word "unregenerative" in my copy of the King James bible. Not anymore.
Like a weed killer the cult sterilises everything it touches.
We will not lose
Time to rebuild 🎉
I may wholly disagree with every word every speaker says but freedom of speech means everyone has the right to speak. Americans have no right to speak on this culture, that is my opinion
Andy Ngo should make a documentary.
Great panel discussion. Thank you to each of you… there is hope!!
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Couldn't you find any women to talk at the panel or haven't you asked any?
How many women were speakers at the convention? Maybe women couldn’t make this panel. Maybe they had to leave. Maybe they were at different panels.
Laura Perrins was there with Andrew Doyle different panel but very much about free speech.
How do you know these aren't women?
Sarah O'Rielly is the CEO of free speech Ireland
Watch the video to answer your question
Why do you care whether the panelists are male or female?
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Lots of Irish flags here in San Francisco. (Wouldn’t dare put up an Israeli flag even 50 years ago.)
Why does Andy Ngo have this strange accent going on?
He is a naturalised American but is of Vietnamese origins and parentage.
Christianity is not very good at this fight. In west it used to be shielded by geography and sacrifices of South and East Europe. There are still a handful of Iraqi Christians, Armenian Christians, Lebanese Christians there was a video of them praying while hezbolah fires rockets over their heads, Nigerian Christians constantly under attack in the North of the country it just goes on and on at present and in the past when templars returned they were tried and executed to have their wealth confiscated for the church all over Europe. They were sent to free Jerusalem but made time to sack constantinopole that was resisting islamic conquest until then being a shield for Europe. Vlad Tepes had to fight the church the same time as protecting them and the country from ottomans on one side and Anglo-Saxons on the other. During reconquista the Spanish sent out their Jews with the muslims later realising they sent out their financial infrastructure but also without jewish influence and with growing power they now started the holy inquisition. Church of England is doing mass baptisms and issuing paperwork aiding problematic elements in UK. ... it would be much more useful to properly study history for tactics instead of this but historically this is what is supposed to happen. This is part of separating society into smaller groups that can go after easier targets to achieve temporary victory for example finally over secularism or whatever before getting swallowed by larger implementation of marxism then islamism. Very much like Iran. It's under because it's an empire made of peoples that can be pitted against each other and ruled by one group. In India hindus have hadva great success at keeping this issue at bay for a thousand years despite estimated 80 million losses during initial conquest. They make provisions to include Christian minority and there are preachers calling hindu icons demonic and all the same stuff islam does. All middle-estern countries that are muslim today are such after having a long phase of being Christian. It can't be an accident for some reason the patterns keep repeating. I bet there was a meeting like this in Lebanon at some point.
Rabbi calvin servantyahu
Its not really an inversion. Its orthogonal. There are similarities to Christianity, in terms of proseletyzation, coopting government, teaching it to children, heresy, etc.
The difference is in what is being preached, not how. Go back a few hundred years, and you get "Christendom", cultural and actual genocide, and so on.
If you're going to claim this, you have to deal with the hypocricy of your own faith, admit to it, and correct it.
The abused often replace one master with another in their search for liberation.
Christians are not ordered by their book to kill non believers. Christianity does not accept pedophilia. People are not always good, but the bible doesn't command them to be evil.
YT deleted my reply.
Michael Shellenberger doesn't understand what it is that has enabled Woke to become acceptable and seen to be positive.
Very true
IMO the priest and the person in the gold tie are being deceptive. 33%, eh..?
Where’s Calvin’s hair gone?
In fairness, Christianity had a monopoly for a long time in Ireland and , it was a grim and repressive time.
Woke is certainly no improvement but I don’t think we can return to the supernatural beliefs of the past however comforting they may have been.
@17:15, sorry, but im not becoming a Xtian. Ireland/UK/Europe was SOMETHING ELSE before xtianity came over. We can talk for aeons about all-things pagan-ism but the paganisms of the past (globally) are obviously not alive and well anymore- and its that reason that Europe is viewed as a geographical land mass desperately needing to have this 'void' reserved for religion filled. All thats here if one wanted to consider a more nativistic option is new-religious (paganic) reconstructivism , and if thats not what you're into you then have either the rest of the world's non-abrahamist religions or atheism/agnosticism/ nihilism. Xtianity and Islam and judaism are all from the same seed and the end-goal of all 3 are absolutely incompatible with what ultimately is a secular, rule-by-law/law-as-tempered-by-a-classical-liberal-democratic-polis characterizing the way of the 1st world West.
This priest is basically what a "moderate muslim" would look like. At the end of the day for abrahamists, its all about theocratic-authoritarianism and thats not the *European-story. Maybe other cultural groups/racial groups around the world are o.k with that, but us Europeans who have been around such people and have studied the world's religions know what taking classical-liberal secularism for granted are not o.k with saying yes to theocratic/anti-modern authoritarianism.
I think Calvin goes over the top re abortion. In Britain we have discussed the question for decades. We came to a consensus that there should be legal abortion free on the NHS up to 24 weeks of pregnancy, in 1968. Every ten years since then we have had to re-argue the points pro and con from the bottom up, because of religious people trying to reverse the legislation. The consensus to retain legal abortion has held.
It is not true that girls or women are pressurised to have an abortion that they might otherwise not have had. It a choice.
He wants power over life and death that he thinks is mistakenly or unfairly in women's hands because it should be in men's hands since women were made for men. He doesn't agree even if he knows that fertility is a function of womens bodies that can go terribly wrong and it is unacceptable that women are worthy of using medical intervention to survive this. Also in many men knowing that they exist not just because of something a man did to their mother and from a source like god that's definitely higher than a woman, but because of something so arbitrary as their mothers decisions about her life and willingness to give her life to a child that turned out to be a so-so man is humiliating. Imagine looking at some woman knowing she actually gave you life by willingly changing everything about her own. That woman would must feel some kind of strange real love on this planet that can be fully committed and even fully denied. How low to depend on that as a man of the cloth even. It has to be god behind everything and sinful women distorting reality.
A poll commissioned by SPUC found that 60% of respondents said they had been pressured into having an abortion. Why are you so keen to murder babies? You hate Christians because we respect the right of the innocent not to be murdered.
I am Swedish and for free abortion, but 24 weeks sound quite shocking to me.
It used to be free up until 12 weeks in Sweden and 16 weeks for special cases with the approval of some medical authority, (as far as I remember from my younger years). It may be harmonised with the EU now but I doubt It is 24 weeks.
Very interesting and somewhat frightening though what a complete cultural U- turn Ireland seems to have done in a very short time.
@@annkristinbarnes4596 Baby-killing is baby-killing, regardless of the victim's age.
American women had our right to abortion curtailed in conservative states.
Women don’t have a right to murder their children
Move. You can find a state that allows infanticide, if you like.