Graham Linehan, a psychotherapist and a lawyer unpick trans ideology | Ireland Free Speech Summit

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  • @user-71435
    @user-71435 4 місяці тому +143

    Graham is still so shaken from all the $h!t they put him through. I'm glad he's a stubborn Irish bloke and didn't stop talking. Bless you, Graham.

    • @garypalmer1122
      @garypalmer1122 4 місяці тому +8

      I have his book - a real eye-opener.

    • @loveridgelizzieable
      @loveridgelizzieable 4 місяці тому +10

      Some woke bros I know, who used to love Glinner, now hate him and say he's dangerous and hateful. I ask them to point out what he has said which is so awful. They mumble a bit and then say, "well, it's not what he says so much as his tone." His tone? Ridiculous cowards. Glinner is a hero.

    • @deebee9151
      @deebee9151 4 місяці тому +6

      He’s lost so much for standing up for what’s right. I have so much respect for someone who is prepared to risk it all for what’s right and just.

    • @ShirleyShirley-t5f
      @ShirleyShirley-t5f 3 місяці тому

      @@deebee9151. Not everyone can stand up. Others can refuse to support the craze.

    • @TeaIngyer
      @TeaIngyer 2 місяці тому

      He's still messed up because they took his wife in the divorce 🤣

  • @AdrianMulligan
    @AdrianMulligan 4 місяці тому +75

    I love Stella O Malley. She has a very warm demeanour based on reality , very kind and grounded in common sense ❤

  • @virginiaweir-hj1rt
    @virginiaweir-hj1rt 4 місяці тому +142

    They call it hate speech but the only hate is coming from the people of "tolerance" and " compassion".

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому +9

      There is no hate like Christian love, and we have the scars to prove it

    • @ΕιρήνηΟύμα
      @ΕιρήνηΟύμα 4 місяці тому

      You are cancelling trans people's plain existance, by calling it an "ideology", and you go on about "the only hate"? Your actual ideology (the one you bear against trans people) is hate incarnated... Stop this -and actually live up to your Christian religion

    • @douglashyslop2209
      @douglashyslop2209 4 місяці тому

      Yeah the religion that allows these people to be themselves is the most hateful thing ever. What other religions allow this crap? None. No other countries but the evil white man western countries allow this stuff to happen, some people need to wake up from their delusions.

    • @Mymusic-pj1oc
      @Mymusic-pj1oc 4 місяці тому

      ​@@moif_velocitathat's nothing compared to the cult you're in now, telling children they're T so they can have scars that won't heal from the genital mutilation you teach and preach. All on speculation and opinions. Sounds like the old superstitions of the new world. Good thing we have cultists like you eh? Who better to lead others to the chopping block? There's no such thing as T. Just radical opinions and radical beliefs. You're just another cult leader. A zealot that will lead sheep to slaughter themselves.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 4 місяці тому

      ​@@moif_velocitaChristians are very toxic.

  • @randmorf
    @randmorf 4 місяці тому +70

    In one detrans video I watched, the speaker said it wasn't "gender dysphoria", but rather it was "social dysphoria", which rings true when I consider the case of my lost daughter.

    • @OrwellsHousecat
      @OrwellsHousecat 4 місяці тому +10

      Sorry to hear your daughter 😥🙏🏽🤗🙏🏽

    • @chrisbfreelance
      @chrisbfreelance 4 місяці тому +16

      Gender Dysphoria is hocus pocus and has been used incorrectly to lump gender non conformity and body dysmorphia together. I really feel for you, I hope your daughter sees the light.

    • @Engrave.Danger
      @Engrave.Danger 4 місяці тому

      Is she a butch lesbian? With or without cross-sex hormones?

    • @justinludeman8424
      @justinludeman8424 4 місяці тому +9

      ​@msimons7440 I completely understand. Sadly, so many of those subsumed by this madness have ASDs.

    • @honberg193
      @honberg193 3 місяці тому

      Like most things, their is some truths in bodily dysphoria and gender non conformity, or more specifically sex non conformity. Sex non conformity is a result of a shift in the opposite sex direction ( mentaly and behaviours). This is on a huge scale. You say that gender dysphoria is hocus pocus. If one's behaviour, pychology, and other aspects of one's pychi is seen be an individual as similar to the other group. That can induce sex dysphoria if, one doesn't fit into the group one is expected to. If one then express one's sexual orientation in a similar way to the opposite sex. Then there is a problem. A gay man wont be attracted to them. Especialy if they don't look masculine. The straight acting gay men, you may be attracted to won't be interested. He will want someone masculine in a relationship. You have a problem. Wheras one may see that all of one's qualities will be attractive to a man that wants what you are except for one thing. Your male. You have a problem. Many in this category don't even fully masculiise. Small, youthful looking, confusing to both gay men, and straight men. You have a problem. These are rare, but do exist. Blanchard reported all of this. You should do one's best to accept one's sex, if one can't then, your left we few options. Those that historicaly make life changing desccisons. Do fit like a glove into the other group. They then disappear. Just being as you call in gender non conforming is just in the majority of cases, your just gay. But we also shouldn't sugar coat the facts that even they, may struggle to find suitable partners. In a nutshell being gender non conforming, isn't gender dysphoria, but some do drift towards the so called trans community . Something I don't really beleuve exists as a community. Ordinary homosexuals, sexuality does have a typical male expression, even if gender non conforming. It won't work for them. That is what we're seeing with some de trans.

  • @r.c.3614
    @r.c.3614 4 місяці тому +57

    Amazing. Thanks. Especially Graham. How easily one could go insane while the rest of the world ignores reality. THANK YOU.

  • @Renagerda
    @Renagerda 4 місяці тому +60

    “ Hate crime” and “ hate speech” is a great way to bring about authoritarianism!

    • @jamieoshea1681
      @jamieoshea1681 3 місяці тому +1

      The hypocrisy and projections 😂😂😂😂

    • @Canjozygal
      @Canjozygal 2 місяці тому +3

      This is what I’m worried about here in the US if misgendering becomes a crime. The state of Michigan has already started I believe. Very scary times.

    • @hneek249x
      @hneek249x 2 місяці тому

      Or totalitarianism?

    • @lettersquash
      @lettersquash Місяць тому

      British police are supposed to respond to "non-crime hate incidents", where they might call on someone to ask them to check their thinking after someone reported being offended by something they said. Although not considered a crime, they're recorded and can be found by prospective employers, affecting job applications and suchlike. Not to mention it being a waste of police time, while burglaries hardly ever get investigated, and nineteen women can complain about rape or sexual assault by the same man over two decades and he's never charged.

    • @jamieoshea1681
      @jamieoshea1681 Місяць тому

      @@lettersquashsimple solution, don’t spread race and other bigoted hate.

  • @281992pdr
    @281992pdr 4 місяці тому +53

    I was talking with a journalist for a regional news outlet in Australia, about a separate subject, and then we chatted about other topics. When I was letting him know about how insidious the trans ideology and its growth is, and some of the appalling aspects of it, he was surprised and asked in disbelief: "Why haven't I heard about all this in the mainstream media"! Capture, mate, capture. And Stella is right about the lawyers being asleep at the wheel. I am a retired lawyer and I missed it when our federal government - led by a woman, ffs - amended the Sex Discrimination Act in 2013 and in doing so had the definition of 'man' and 'woman' removed and replaced with the term 'gender identity'. Guilty, your honour.

    • @scotswumin5502
      @scotswumin5502 4 місяці тому +9

      Jeez. That seems so far back, 2013! These changes in law were brought in with such stealth, we were all asleep at the wheel.
      Sall Grover has hopefully set the wheels in motion for having Australian law scrutinised and hopefully re set over the Tickle v Giggle court case.

    • @pollyparrot9447
      @pollyparrot9447 4 місяці тому

      I think your journalist was being disingenuous. They're always trawling the internet for story ideas. He'd know very well why he hadn't heard about it from the mainstream media.

    • @barboglesby2162
      @barboglesby2162 4 місяці тому

      That switch to define under the term "gender' was under ...wait for it... President Obama!

    • @PeterOzanne
      @PeterOzanne 3 місяці тому +1

      I'm surprised: I've been watching famous people being critical of trans ideology on the TV Radio, and Social Media (which, let's face it, are mainstream these days). Your Aussie guy must've been asleep.

    • @281992pdr
      @281992pdr 3 місяці тому

      @@PeterOzanne No, definitely not in the mainstraem media here in Australia. Yesterday on Radio National's Life Matters, one discussion including two 'experts' was about 'gender parity' in the Olympics and there was no mention of the minimum 2 x trans competitiors - the males claiming to be women who are counted as such. There was glee despite this spurious count of women that included those males. The Sydney Morning Herald uses the pronoun nonsense, i.e. referring to an individual as 'they'. I could go on but I will finish by saying that I would like to know the names of these 'famous people being critical of trans ideology ...' TIA.

  • @author4you443
    @author4you443 4 місяці тому +112

    Three brave warriors fighting on behalf of women & girls, but also for language & the meaning of words like Woman, which can only mean adult human female.

    • @outoforbit00
      @outoforbit00 4 місяці тому +18

      The fight is for both sexes! Boys are ruined by this as well.

    • @author4you443
      @author4you443 4 місяці тому +10

      @@outoforbit00 Yes indeed, I totally agree & apologies I didn't fit that in too .....

    • @gabychats
      @gabychats 4 місяці тому +9

      @@outoforbit00yes agreed, I alway say women and children but it also affects the gay community.

    • @carolmcln5028
      @carolmcln5028 4 місяці тому +7

      @@gabychatsYes! It’s very anti-social, anti-society.

    • @4651adri
      @4651adri 4 місяці тому

      It affects anyone but don't be fooled, it is the actual erasure of women

  • @SuperSuperdude88
    @SuperSuperdude88 4 місяці тому +151

    its literally a cult at this point.

    • @salvolondon
      @salvolondon 4 місяці тому +14

      It has Always been

    • @ninjawizard3865
      @ninjawizard3865 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@salvolondonIndeed it has.

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 4 місяці тому

      The culture os the anti trans movement

    • @jayWalk8
      @jayWalk8 4 місяці тому

      These good people & many more like them are devoted to doing good in the world - they shouldn't have to be fighting the new psuedo scientific religious cult that is 'Trans' but here we are @@michelledavis2604

    • @Shadylady4181
      @Shadylady4181 4 місяці тому +10

      @@michelledavis2604 no the cult is trans ideology based solely on beliefs

  • @Abuamina001
    @Abuamina001 4 місяці тому +9

    "Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." - Voltaire.

  • @AndyJarman
    @AndyJarman 4 місяці тому +30

    When 70% of your laws come from a foreign unelected body, are you still a sovereign nation?

  • @FREE2BEUS
    @FREE2BEUS 4 місяці тому +71

    All the well meaning talk by those on the panel will amount to nothing if we, the majority remain silent!

    • @Yellowandblackscot
      @Yellowandblackscot Місяць тому

      We need to speak hard truths to our friends, kids and families in a gentle compassionate way.
      We won't change the hardcore trans cultists. It's really sad that they won't debate sensibly.
      A lot of people even now do not know that men who identify as
      Women are in Scotland's women's prison. When most people find that out and it's true they start to rethink their beliefs.
      The point of what these Women and men like me who support them are saying isn't about transphobia it's about safeguarding all vulnerable people.
      Even I get hatred for having very mild views, I've lost friends. I'm an absolute nobody and I've lost friends! Imagine what these guys have been through.

  • @shooster5884
    @shooster5884 4 місяці тому +45

    These speakers are the true freedom fighters for Ireland this century, just as those were in the early decades of the last century..
    We have to all speak up and support them and reclaim our right to freedom of speech and freedom of being male and female.

  • @nolan1432
    @nolan1432 4 місяці тому +87

    End belief bullying! In schools, in the workplace, everywhere!

    • @OrwellsHousecat
      @OrwellsHousecat 4 місяці тому +10

      "Belief Bullying"
      - great phrase, perfectly describes it

    • @jamesclark6487
      @jamesclark6487 4 місяці тому

      I don't agree, some beliefs are terriibe. Oddly enough the beliefs the left overlap there.

    • @scottblack7182
      @scottblack7182 4 місяці тому +2

      Soon as we get rid of the religious right we can actually begin to do something about this particular issue.

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 4 місяці тому

      ​@@scottblack7182Getting "rid" of traditional religion is what helped create the Woke monster. You'd better think twice.

    • @Fatpie42
      @Fatpie42 3 місяці тому

      ​@Woke_Invaders Baffles me that I don't believe in souls and yet there are people who know that and yet are still surprised I don't believe in gender souls either. How is it different?

  • @PrinceofRanelagh
    @PrinceofRanelagh 4 місяці тому +81

    Excellent discussion delivered by three intelligent grounded individuals.

    • @KickRocks-me7hh
      @KickRocks-me7hh 4 місяці тому

      confirmation bias

    • @281992pdr
      @281992pdr 4 місяці тому

      @@KickRocks-me7hh LGB is natural. Trans is not. No one goes to a doctor/counsellor/psych because they are gay, lesbian, hetero or bi, because they know their physiological responses to sexual stimuli from others. There are no scientific or medical tests for trans because it is not something natural. It is a confected preference. Before you accuse others of confirmation bias read from start to finish Stock's "Material Girls". I have read the pro-trans ideological texts by e.g Butler and others even the completely spurious "GenderBiology" - the name gives away its bias. Try reading Dawkins' "The Selfish Gene". Better still, before you report me here, go troll elesewhere with your uninformed repetitive slogans.

    • @281992pdr
      @281992pdr 3 місяці тому

      @@KickRocks-me7hh Transgenderism is an ideology because it is a system of ideas and ideals, especially one which forms the basis of economic or political theory and policy. Here are some elements: One e.g. of a trans idea - anthropology students are being taught the idea that skeletons cannot be identified as male or female, their sex can only be 'estimated', one e.g. of a trans ideal - that sex and gender used synonymously are on a spectrum, e.g. of a trans economic policy is that all trans cosmetic surgery should be provided on NHS/Medicare (which it pretty much is) no woman patient should be allowed to insist on having a woman doctor to consult with; one e.g. of trans political policy is having legislation changed so that birth history and consequent documentation is altered to suit the preference (called self-id) of the person who claims to be of the other sex. Other e.g. - The transgender movement has its own flag that it's activists march under and it has organs set up to promote its ideas and ideals - Stonewall etc. Trans genderists have invented a proscription and prescription of language e.g. newborns are not born with their own sex, it is “assigned” and stating sex is binary is denounced as “hate speech”. Trans gender ideology has dogma that cannot be questioned and is protected by law e.g. gender identity replacing man and woman in Australia’s Sex Discrimination Act. The ideology produces its own propaganda with which to indoctrinate children and youth - “The Gender Wheel” being one such text. It's members are active in shutting down discussion both public and private

  • @lisamareepritchard6375
    @lisamareepritchard6375 4 місяці тому +59

    It’s become a social contagion imo. It also doesn’t help when children as young as 5 are being taught this “gender ideology” at school. I find all this very disturbing 😢

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому +1

      Do you complain when five year olds are taught to obey God and fear Hell?

    • @nforne
      @nforne 4 місяці тому +14

      ​@@moif_velocitaDon’t know about the person you asked but no, I’m not a fan of that either. Leave the kids alone.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому

      @@nforne Trans and Intersex children need professional and medical support. Not ostracisation from hate mongers like these 'people'.
      They have no idea what it's like to be a Trans or Intersex child. None of these transphobes do. They're imposing their own shame and ignorance onto innocent children under the guise of 'care'.

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 4 місяці тому +6

      @@moif_velocitaSo-called ‘intersex’ people have nothing to do with this. And it’s impossible to know which gender-dysphoric kids will grow out of their dysphoria (as most of them will do if they’re not ‘affirmed’) and which ones will be that way for life and ultimately keep a trans identity into middle age. So there’s no point in treating trans-identifying kids as “actually” trans kids, like it’s an identity set in stone, or a lifelong medical diagnosis like a DSD.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому

      @@slacktoryrecords4193 All research shows that less than 2% of Trans people go on to detransition, and of those who do, 60% will later retransition.
      Stop getting your numbers from right wing propaganda outlets who deliberately confuse gender non-conformity in children with Trans children. These are not the same.

  • @Jessie-bd2hq
    @Jessie-bd2hq 4 місяці тому +47

    The pride flag is up outside University Hospital Limerick too, it's ridiculous

    • @shooster5884
      @shooster5884 4 місяці тому

      @@Jessie-bd2hq What on earth for??
      Are they also flying a flag for the other 99% of the population.. or one for all the other minorities? Or disadvantaged groups? Is there a flag for carers? The physically disabled? The homeless?
      I used to admire and like the rainbow flag... Now I loathe it, reminds me of Nazi Germany because of it having been hijacked by haters and cultists. And sadly now when I see a beautiful real rainbow in nature it reminds me of the KKK type trans activists and how society has cowed down under their threats and let them take over society... The flag now to me represents hate..
      When people are afraid to speak freely, discuss an important issue freely for fear of losing their livelihood that is a serious and dangerous threat to a society and the society is headed towards dictatorship.. and it certainly is not helping those with gender dysphoria..they are equally the victims of the haters..
      It has spread to all aspects of society on so many issues stemming out from the trans cult ..

    • @scotswumin5502
      @scotswumin5502 4 місяці тому +4

      Virtue signalling is what it is but cases are coming to the fore with nurses taking legal action in Scotland and England over men in female changing rooms.
      Call them up and ask if they'll support eg Alzheimer cause and rights for a month or stand up for the rights of people under going cancer diagnosis. By having no flag whatsoever, (at a hospital, a cafe, a charity shop, etc etc) should indicate that everyone is included.

    • @mossfitz
      @mossfitz 4 місяці тому +8

      I and many gay friends call it the "migraine flag" It doesn't represent us but a movement that has been hijacked by the exact opposite of a liberation movement.

    • @author4you443
      @author4you443 4 місяці тому

      @@mossfitz Well there's the traditional rainbow pride flag 🌈
      Then there's the Trans- Progress flag, which is not everybody's cup of tea ... to put it mildly.

    • @Jessie-bd2hq
      @Jessie-bd2hq 4 місяці тому

      @@author4you443 Even the pedestrian crossing down the road from the hospital with the pride flag, is painted in the rainbow colours, You have to wonder why are the politicians so obsessed with it, and you do see the way the pride festival's are in the US, in which grown adults in the Pride parades are allowed naked while there's all kids there watching in the audience, that's a disgrace.

  • @vilmarazauskiene1172
    @vilmarazauskiene1172 4 місяці тому +30

    'There is no volume quite enough that you are alowed to speak about this issue.'

    • @jdfjdfjdfjdf
      @jdfjdfjdfjdf 4 місяці тому +1

      A small correction - *quiet - but that was a FANTASTIC line.

    • @TheQuixoticRambler
      @TheQuixoticRambler 4 місяці тому

      Tune in next week when Graham learns tone policing is never a valid response to an argument. Just an effort to derail legitimate discussion.

  • @CalTheKiwi1
    @CalTheKiwi1 4 місяці тому +43

    Where are the real men in Ireland? Ireland used to be known for its Freedom Fighters. Where are they?

    • @pfauniversal1890
      @pfauniversal1890 4 місяці тому

      They are shagging your daddy 😜

    • @pfauniversal1890
      @pfauniversal1890 4 місяці тому

      She would be a fine ride 🤪

    • @jacktadash
      @jacktadash 4 місяці тому +2

      They're still on hunger strike just no one cares.

    • @OrwellsHousecat
      @OrwellsHousecat 4 місяці тому

      You're calling the wrong department. Feminist Matriarchy is in charge now, and they like converts.

    • @carolmcln5028
      @carolmcln5028 4 місяці тому

      The organizations which birthed freedom fighters is now going along with the EU and U.K. on being pro trans and pro refugees.

  • @marymcneill9914
    @marymcneill9914 4 місяці тому +30

    We're in an age where truth, fact, reason, logic and balance are now ists and phobes. Who do these NGOs think they are, who elected them to push all they are pushing.

  • @ArmchairGeneral-sr7sz
    @ArmchairGeneral-sr7sz 4 місяці тому +21

    Well done for standing up for common sense

  • @carolmcln5028
    @carolmcln5028 4 місяці тому +27

    It wasn’t just “hurtful” to take JK rolling his name off schools. It was a signal to others to shut up. That someone as rich and influential as JK Rowling is, see what they did to her? They can do worse to you.

  • @outoforbit00
    @outoforbit00 4 місяці тому +31

    I think Graham's J.S. anology with regards to the activists groomers is spot on. In fact considering their behaviour, tactics etc, it is self evident.

  • @rabidcentrist
    @rabidcentrist 4 місяці тому +27

    Stella: "the truth of the communication is more important than the words we use"
    Very well said.

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 4 місяці тому +4

      What does this sentence mean? It is not clear how one would communicate truthfully if words are not defined clearly.

    • @OrwellsHousecat
      @OrwellsHousecat 4 місяці тому +1

    • @UnderwaterSable
      @UnderwaterSable 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@Gingerblaze It means tell it how it should be, loud and clear and not in wispers like little sheep.

    • @carolmcln5028
      @carolmcln5028 4 місяці тому +2

      ⁠​⁠@@GingerblazeI agree. It could be taken to mean using male words for males and female words for females doesn’t matter?

  • @ApacheMagic
    @ApacheMagic 4 місяці тому +30

    Paraphelia used to be called perversion.

    • @carolmcln5028
      @carolmcln5028 4 місяці тому +1

      No religion = no perversion. Because, “who can judge” what is perversion?

    • @liamcronin5959
      @liamcronin5959 4 місяці тому

      I grew up with people hanging around outside Public Toilets 😞 Now there are no public toilets but L.G.B T with Education on Anal Sex for Children.Who will this benefit.

    • @hneek249x
      @hneek249x 2 місяці тому

      ​@@carolmcln5028What silliness. Sex was naturally brought about for the purpose of procreation, therefore heterosexuality is so obviously normal. All other forms of sexuality are unnatural. Simples.

  • @burgercide
    @burgercide 4 місяці тому +11

    I did a double take when she said "the organs of state that are grinding against you." How hilariously - and sadly - appropriate.

  • @Anne_Onymous
    @Anne_Onymous 4 місяці тому +11

    All I have to say is that I _greatly_ regret ever supporting anything LGBTQ related.

    • @GreenWhitePurple
      @GreenWhitePurple 4 місяці тому +8

      Isn’t the problem the TQ+ rather than the LGB? A big part of the problem is the forced pairing, TQ as an ideology/fetish attaching itself to LGB which was and is a genuine human rights issue.

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 4 місяці тому

      ​​@@GreenWhitePurpleTQ+ are using the same tactics the LGB used. Poetic justice.

    • @akashajones6079
      @akashajones6079 3 місяці тому

      ​@@Woke_Invaders That's just a plain lie

    • @Woke_Invaders
      @Woke_Invaders 3 місяці тому

      @@akashajones6079 No, it's not.

  • @DK-yq5nx
    @DK-yq5nx 4 місяці тому +6

    It’s a relief to see intelligent, compassionate people talk about this horrendous issue in a rational manner. I’m a gay man and I’ve not doubt the contemporary transgender movement seeks to undermine, if not totally demolish, both women’s rights and homosexual rights. Full marks too for caring about the welfare and future of your country.

  • @Albundyhomer
    @Albundyhomer 4 місяці тому +37

    It's not a culture war, its a battle for truth!

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому +1

      Your truth is a religious fairy tale

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 4 місяці тому +9

      @@moif_velocitaHow do you know what truth he’s speaking about? My truth is not a religious fairy tale. I’m an atheist. I also think “gender identity” is nonsense.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому +2

      @@slacktoryrecords4193 It seems being an aetheist hasn't made you immune to religious propaganda though.
      Gender identity is just as real as humour, personality and emotion.
      Do yourself a favour. Try reading about Trans people instead of talking about them because you clearly know nothing about them

    • @5-Volt
      @5-Volt 4 місяці тому +7

      ​@@moif_velocitaThere isn't compelling evidence for gender identity. People just like to add labels to their personality based on gendered stereotypes observed in society.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому

      @@5-Volt There is no compelling evidence for your sense of humour either. Prove it exists

  • @urisimchoni3936
    @urisimchoni3936 4 місяці тому +5

    "I'll use my words, you use yours. You don't have any right over my words." I'll try to memorize that.

  • @shooster5884
    @shooster5884 4 місяці тому +54

    Pronouns are more than a matter of free speech.
    She pronoun refers to a biological female.
    He pronoun refers to a biological male.
    It's much more than just a matter of free speech
    Its a matter of reality and dissembling reality.
    It's not okay, nor should it be legal for a man or woman to claim the opposite sex pronouns..
    A person now called ' trans' should have to use a double pronoun - a man who presents as a trans woman should have to have the pronoun heshe - indicating by the first root pronoun that they are a biological male..
    Similar for a trans man - pronoun shehe.
    Language matters..
    There are men and women, he and she. That is ALL people .
    No cis pronoun needed.
    Then there are a minority of people with gender disphoria who are not comfortable with their bodies and their gender and want to change to the opposite sex..
    But that's not physically possible.
    To ease their discomfort and to be visible for their mental health a special separate set of pronouns to describe them and for them to use would not disrupt society ie heshe and shehe..
    But the idea that by law the rest of society is to pretend that there is no such thing as a man and a woman and that one can become the other and force the population under pain of job loss or even prison to lie about reality is total insanity..

    • @frankgradus9474
      @frankgradus9474 4 місяці тому +5

      On a side note to your fair comment,
      "Pronouns are Rohypnol" - by Barra Kerr.
      Well worth a read.

    • @finianlacy8827
      @finianlacy8827 4 місяці тому

      Wh. Oh ! They're on control...

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 4 місяці тому

      Try and learn some science instead of invoking your feelings.

    • @JD-xd4sy
      @JD-xd4sy 4 місяці тому

      @@michelledavis2604 Try to elaborate your argument instead of inserting yours

    • @michelledavis2604
      @michelledavis2604 4 місяці тому

      @JD-xd4sy hardly seems worth the effort. Like to talking to a brick wall.

  • @jimvermeer9451
    @jimvermeer9451 4 місяці тому +18

    Keep speaking truth may God bless us all.

    • @petersmith2522
      @petersmith2522 4 місяці тому +5

      God is the greatest lie of them all 😊

    • @scottblack7182
      @scottblack7182 4 місяці тому +5

      ​@@petersmith2522Agreed. These religious fanatics are one of the main reasons the trans debate has gotten away from everyone. Once you start giving credence to nonsense you can no longer argue against anybody else's. Also when people say God bless I do not believe they actually believe in a god 😅. Just sounds so fake and forced. Not a good look but they just can't seem to help themselves lmao.

  • @NeilDunford-u9d
    @NeilDunford-u9d 4 місяці тому +9

    Do anything for that, "Pat on the head" - amazing turn of phrase, accurate to a surgical degree....
    That's exactly what's happening with this, as well as DEI, Queer Theory & the West's passion for those who would happily see us ruined.

  • @chachatruth
    @chachatruth 2 місяці тому +3

    Thr teaching children in irish schools that to be irish is racist!
    But to be moslem is not!

  • @Renagerda
    @Renagerda 4 місяці тому +8

    Graham Linehan is right on point!

  • @tichennis6774
    @tichennis6774 4 місяці тому +82

    These speakers have been harassed and persecuted.

    • @Messier45_Pleiades
      @Messier45_Pleiades 4 місяці тому +12

      Many of us have, but we're not famous.

    • @jacktadash
      @jacktadash 4 місяці тому +2

      Good

    • @newearthmirror186
      @newearthmirror186 4 місяці тому +7

      @@jacktadash What's good?

    • @jaijai5250
      @jaijai5250 4 місяці тому +11

      A previous poster in the thread used the perfect term for the trans agenda….”belief bullying.”

    • @Mopark25
      @Mopark25 4 місяці тому +8

      ​@@jacktadashWhat is a woman?

  • @DeirdreMcNamara
    @DeirdreMcNamara 4 місяці тому +5

    It's bizarre to see Ireland following all the errors of other nations ten years after the rest of the world is "reaping the whirlwind" of consequences and asking "what have we done!"

  • @robertshaw6996
    @robertshaw6996 4 місяці тому +4

    From an Englishman, go Ireland 😊 well done 👍

  • @ThePontiacBandit911
    @ThePontiacBandit911 2 місяці тому +1

    Laoise is an absolute legend. I’m so glad she’s on our side.
    The side of the truth and a coherent argument.
    When i grow up I want to be just like her!

  • @CrystalShadow
    @CrystalShadow 4 місяці тому +4

    Thank you for your bravery, your common sense and your humanity ❤

  • @sn4rff
    @sn4rff 4 місяці тому +14

    so glad you shared this video, thanks ❤

  • @paddyt4043
    @paddyt4043 4 місяці тому +18

    We also need to hear enoch burke now ...

    • @liamanderson1960
      @liamanderson1960 4 місяці тому +8

      @@paddyt4043 very true. People laughed at Enoch Burke 2 years ago, but now what he spoke about is true

    • @MaryWall-ii2bg
      @MaryWall-ii2bg 4 місяці тому +9

      I think people are starting to realise the man had a point

  • @liamanderson1960
    @liamanderson1960 4 місяці тому +31

    This is what Enoch Burke spoke about

    • @OrwellsHousecat
      @OrwellsHousecat 4 місяці тому +5

      Just looked him up. Thanks, I didn't know that

  • @matadorade
    @matadorade 4 місяці тому +5

    My god this is horrific! The fact this is going on in the "civilised" part of the world! Everyone cries foul over FGM, but what the hell do they think this is?!

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому

      Health care. Recommended and effective health care.
      Just because you're too ignorant to understand it doesn't make it the same as removing genitalia for religious reasons

  • @TheQuixoticRambler
    @TheQuixoticRambler 4 місяці тому +3

    Am I the only one who thinks this movement needs much more of Laoise de Brún?

  • @lolfzbf
    @lolfzbf 4 місяці тому +12

    My best friend is trans. But even he thinks the gender ideology has gone too far. By the way, he identifies as a woman but acknowledges he is a biologically a man

    • @juanzulu1318
      @juanzulu1318 4 місяці тому +6

      How can he "identify" as a woman if he is a man and even knows this fact?

    • @paulwooton4390
      @paulwooton4390 4 місяці тому +1

      ​@@juanzulu1318 per the video, he may simply have autogynophelia. As the woman said people may not know they have it if they've never heard the word.

    • @mushypeasplease8872
      @mushypeasplease8872 4 місяці тому +1

      My best friend same. She tells me she merely lives as a woman but knows absolutely that she is a man. She despairs at the gender ideology movement. She says she has autogynephilia. She's lived as a woman for abt 30 years and finds the movement evil. She said there always was this evil movement that was anti gay , anti women and totally deluded.

  • @francinehorner2792
    @francinehorner2792 4 місяці тому +12

    Beautiful Common sense approach
    Proper definitions of paraphilias
    Let’s define who is doing what here and for what reason and let’s be honest any medical surgeries that ruin the opportunity of a functional sex life or cause sterilisation should be automatically banned until at least 25 because we all know that before this age you cannot be aware of how much your body ideas and intentions will change towards your personal future Developmental preferences and delays may still have opportunities to grow
    But chopping off body parts and ending a person’s chance to produce progeny WILL NOT EVER grow back !!!

  • @TomiDeLuna
    @TomiDeLuna 4 місяці тому +7

    Thank you! Erin Go Bragh!

  • @sammcgee189
    @sammcgee189 4 місяці тому +3

    I'm so frustrated that people just won't listen and how hidden this,all is. I live in small town canada 🇨🇦, and I'm shocked how even after the CASS report, nothing has changed. My psychiatrist and therapists know nothing about the real issues, I've done my best to explain but it's just not on their radar because they don't deal with kids.
    I tried to bring it up on an online atheists fb group, and got kicked out of chat. People didn't even want to know more or ask for link to studies! I know very few people so I am pretty helpless to spread word . I'm already not popular just because I'm an outspoken atheist hippy living in a very conservative area. I can't get how people just won't listen to the horrors going on for children

    • @Charlie.c19
      @Charlie.c19 4 місяці тому +1

      Yep. I've tried to make comments on atheist channels before (atheist experience type shows) and my comments get deleted. It's beyond dogmatic. They don't question it whatsoever.

  • @elderberry1000
    @elderberry1000 4 місяці тому +11

    Well done to all involved 👏

  • @carlbyronrodgers
    @carlbyronrodgers 4 місяці тому +9

    Fight the good fight.Beware of THE SMEAR.

  • @SuperBlinding
    @SuperBlinding 4 місяці тому +8

    Great Conversations.

  • @JoanOhare-ty9mm
    @JoanOhare-ty9mm 4 місяці тому +4

    We are blessed to have Enoch Burke Sec School Teacher jailed denied his Christian beliefs on ideology of trangenda

  • @HebaruSan
    @HebaruSan 4 місяці тому +1

    Haha, "a psychotherapist" is an internationally known figure for whom I have two active UA-cam subscriptions, great to see Stella here!

  • @Hope20249
    @Hope20249 4 місяці тому +10

    Thank you all

  • @dianehghzn7670
    @dianehghzn7670 Місяць тому

    What about the victimisation of the Burke family the oldest young man is in prison because he refused to name the children in his class as “they “ and acknowledge the trans gender and he was told to sighn some kind of paper to say there are more than 2 genders M/F and he refused especially on religious beliefs which he holds very dearly and is entitled to do so So they sacked him from his teachers position and from then on his brother was refused his Masters degree his sister was thrown out of the position as a solicitor and his mother was forced to leave the court room because she was very upset over the discrimination that her daughter was facing and so on anyway and all because of this protest over transgenderism the whole thing is disgraceful and disgusting 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺🦘🦘🦘🌏🙏🙏🙏

  • @thekaratekidpartii2169
    @thekaratekidpartii2169 4 місяці тому +2

    Only the Irish can fit 17 vowels in the word "film".

  • @DeirdreMcNamara
    @DeirdreMcNamara 4 місяці тому +1

    Well spoken, Laoise! World class!

  • @maggie19441
    @maggie19441 4 місяці тому +2

    We can put that on this evening have to look for it xx

  • @Elbownian
    @Elbownian 4 місяці тому +8

    Ireland out of the EU. Eirexit now.

    • @Lala-kc2fw
      @Lala-kc2fw 4 місяці тому +2

      Nah, just return to EEC! Glory to Europe!

  • @davidcross7272
    @davidcross7272 3 місяці тому +1

    Great to see people can still speak truth to power

  • @Man_fay_the_Bru
    @Man_fay_the_Bru 4 місяці тому +1

    This went by to quickly, brilliant 👏👏

  • @roseannallan4944
    @roseannallan4944 4 місяці тому +8

    Pride flag outside Glasgow royal infirmary waiting time for hip operation 2 years just do the job they get paid for

    • @scotswumin5502
      @scotswumin5502 4 місяці тому +3

      Wtaf do they need to be doing that!? Virtue signallers...
      Phone them up and complain. Dial 141 first if you want your number witheld. Do they show concern for the rights of people with Alzheimers, nah of course they don't.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому

      The rest of us have put up with your crosses and churches and pedo priests, but you're upset about a harmless flag. Grow up

  • @ClaytonHardee
    @ClaytonHardee 4 місяці тому +2

    Thank you all for your courage and your hard work it’s extremely important. I have a hard time wrapping my mind around Transmaxxing. Men switching genders, not because they are experiencing gender dysphoria, or sexual excitement, but because they just want to get the perceived social benefits of being a woman. Yes, they're switching genders for the perceived social benefits of being a woman! Feminists have said for years that men have an advantage in society and misogyny is rather commonplace, and yet some men are still seeking this approach to transition into a female. Not Autogynephilic, but a man who identifies as a man yet, is socially and sometimes surgically transitioning to a female for the perceived social benefits, sports included. If it’s mainly about sex or relationships, then why not come out as gay or bisexual? Why pursue a male-to-female gender transition? Being a man in this day and age is difficult, but being a woman has its own set of unique challenges. Though Transmaxxing is becoming increasingly trendy, I just don’t get it.

  • @yammondo9796
    @yammondo9796 4 місяці тому +3

    Didn't Micheal Martin say recently over 80% of all decisions concerning Ireland now made in Europe, not in Dail...

  • @OrwellsHousecat
    @OrwellsHousecat 4 місяці тому +5

    Global Liberalist Totalitarianist Orthodoxy

  • @djtrunksta
    @djtrunksta 4 місяці тому +1

    it means "LOOKIT ME IM SO SUPER SPESHUL!!! EVEN THOUGH I OFFER NOTHING OF VALUE TO ANYONE OR ANYTHING"

  • @mkyriacopolous
    @mkyriacopolous 4 місяці тому +5

    It's just a cool and kitschy term that teens adopt, same as emo, punk etc. Say "juvenile transsexual" and you won't sound cool to them at all!

  • @pinklilyblossom
    @pinklilyblossom 4 місяці тому +2

    There is some serious issue with what ‘acts of hate’ constitutes. Straw manning someone’s concerns and then using it as an excuse to destroy someone to my mind is an act of hate. Not someone asking for reasonable discussion and asking for more research and concern over the medicalization and sterilization of children is insane.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому

      Politicians and political activists colluding to remove the reccomended health care from children is not asking for reasonable discussion, and there has been decades of research conducted into Trans people, going way back to the 1960s now.
      Of course if politicians ignore the research and shut down the centres which cater to Trans people, which is what has happened in the UK, then of course can pretend that no such research exists and there is no one left to contradict you

  • @Charlie.c19
    @Charlie.c19 4 місяці тому +3

    Strange that all of this is getting pushed so much, yet you come to the comments here and will struggle to find a single person arguing from the trans side of the debate.
    It's almost like they are a tiny minority who aren't represented in society hardly at all, but are represented in media as if they make up half the friggin' population.
    I know of 1 trans person (had the hormones replacements therapy) in the town I live in. Yes, I know, it's only 1 which I know of, obviously will be more, but there are more than 145,000 people in my town. Woth yheybway it is being pushed, you'd expect me to see a trans person everyday, multiple times. Doesn't happen. Most people are normal, in this sense.
    Just had a quick google search - 0.2% of the UK identifies as trans.
    There are probably more people who think Elvis is still alive...

    • @Spacewith2224
      @Spacewith2224 2 місяці тому

      You are the tiny population everyone thinks your obsession with trans people is weird

  • @ThePontiacBandit911
    @ThePontiacBandit911 Місяць тому

    1:26 What a fantastic metaphor.

  • @bobbresnahan8397
    @bobbresnahan8397 4 місяці тому +1

    Great!!!

  • @JeffGarrett-i6c
    @JeffGarrett-i6c 2 місяці тому

    If a 16 year old girl who weighed 85 pounds came to you and told you she was fat and disgusting and needed to lose 85 pounds, would you affirm her anorexia and encourage her to lose the weight, or would you maybe try to convince her that the problem is with her mind and not her body and she needs mental health care to teach her to see reality? Affirming gender dysphoria is no different than affirming anorexia.

  • @MisunderstoodMisanthrope
    @MisunderstoodMisanthrope 4 місяці тому

    When I put this on, I wondered why Luciana Berger was speaking in an Irish accent!

  • @teresaward8174
    @teresaward8174 4 місяці тому +3

    Never mind when Ireland is back to scraping a living they will land on earth these living in fairy land.

  • @denyseharrington889
    @denyseharrington889 4 місяці тому +1

    The state and the nation are not the same, the parliament is elected to govern the nation and its people, when a state works against the nation and its people then it must follow the state has gone rogue..

  • @dcitennison5911
    @dcitennison5911 4 місяці тому +2

    The Trans flag is flying inside Garda Headquarters.

  • @robleahy5759
    @robleahy5759 4 місяці тому

    I'm Stella and I'm a psychotherapist. Over and over and over.

  • @alimohammedabd
    @alimohammedabd 3 місяці тому

    The old Meath hospital in Dublin is now a medical centre. There is a side building to the right of the main building that has horizontal wooden panels that are painted in trans colours. Also a big trans flag in the window. But about 2 months ago the front of the side building was painted white. I heard someone wrote something on it. So they had to paint over it. They also have a gender free toilet. I was looking for the men’s and was told there was none. Only unisex toilets.

  • @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894
    @hospitalsgivingpatientsdan8894 4 місяці тому +3

    FEELINGS OF FEMININITY IN MEN SECONDARY SEX CHARACTERISTICS NOT PRIMARY

  • @hllyenaylleth9576
    @hllyenaylleth9576 Місяць тому

    Spot on!

  • @emphaticapathy
    @emphaticapathy 4 місяці тому +5

    Graham Linehan, a psychotherapist and a lawyer walk into a bar....

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому +2

      ...to drown their sorrows in bitter remorse

  • @GIJane-nr2xm
    @GIJane-nr2xm 24 дні тому

    It's literally just another generation of teens trying to rebel agaisnt an invisible enemy.

  • @interestedpart2650
    @interestedpart2650 4 місяці тому

    Excellent ❤

  • @christinacorrigan-u1l
    @christinacorrigan-u1l 4 місяці тому +14

    Eugenics

  • @farinshore8900
    @farinshore8900 4 місяці тому +1

    In the case of sex change, trans means transition. In the case non-binary folk trans means a transendence of gender construction.

    • @akashajones6079
      @akashajones6079 3 місяці тому

      Humans can't change sex.. so what now?

  • @harrypalmer3481
    @harrypalmer3481 2 місяці тому +1

    I am in favour of of this summit & the premise of the points in this video BUT:
    At the introduction around the 7.10 second mark, the woman (Laoise de Brún BL?) quoted that her comments had been picked up by international & promoted by commentators “…like Tucker Carlson”…, ……. Tucker Carlson…!
    - A Vladimir Putin promoting, self promoting motivated psychopath, how on earth is that supposed to be a positive thing to promote a cause? What if Putin had agreed with the points and had commented so, would that be good?… Or is it ok to just have just abhorrent, psychopath supporters of Putin? Talk about getting in bed with the devil.
    It’s because I’m an admirer of Graham Linaham, J. K. Rowling and the handful of people who pay a heavy price for speaking up towards some kind of objective reality, & the principles being upheld, that I didn’t turn off this video from that point.
    There are plenty of people whose opinion I disagree with that I am perfectly prepared to listen to & engage with but quoting Tucker Carlson “reported my comments” as a positive thing is absurd & only serves to discredit (otherwise credible things) things from the offset.
    How disappointing.
    I wonder what Graham Linaham thinks of that? I hope he is as appalled as I am.
    The rest of the conversation was good.

  • @NepotisticNeanderthal-mh8cg
    @NepotisticNeanderthal-mh8cg 4 місяці тому +1

    Let me walk some folks here through my personal experience. I'm trans, hello. You'd never know it passing me in the street, why? Because I don't make a mockery of people. Many people are uncomfortable with it being mainstream and fear people taking advantage of it or pushing it onto children... these are valid and legitimate, but unfortunately for folks like me with genuine dysphoria it's highly frowned upon so we don't seek treatment and it festers and grows until we die or seek some kind of therapy. Talk therapy never helped me, and in fact anytime I got push back it made me realize... yeah, no... I'd want even the shit sides of being a woman. From both an analytical and emotional perspective I'd still rather be a woman. The macho persona men are pushed towards doesn't appeal to me, so I guess yeah... I'm not a "real man" or even a man at all in any sense, and have no desire to be.

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 4 місяці тому +2

      Whatever you do though you aren't a woman you are only what you think a woman is.

  • @kennethgreifer5123
    @kennethgreifer5123 4 місяці тому +1

    I think they should be called hybrids and not trans.

    • @GaiaBD
      @GaiaBD 4 місяці тому +1

      Still implies a human can be a mixture of both sexes, like the "intersex" argument that trans activists use. Which is not true, anyone with a DSD (Disorder of Sexual Development) is still either one sex or the other.

    • @moif_velocita
      @moif_velocita 4 місяці тому

      @@GaiaBD That is the disingenuous argument that transphobes use. Intersex people are born with physical characteristics of both sexes.

  • @janebennetto5655
    @janebennetto5655 4 місяці тому +3

    ❤🇬🇧

  • @HB-iq6bl
    @HB-iq6bl 4 місяці тому +3

    The countries which legislate that race and gemder are self identified , can be changed, no proof needed and their selection is legally binding and can change birth certicates drivers licence and passport details legally.
    And the self selected data acceues the person all the rights of that gender.
    New Zealand has done it during the labour green maori party dictatorship .- jacinta Arderm their prime minister

    • @miriamlana833
      @miriamlana833 4 місяці тому +2

      If you give different groups different rights and privileges, self definition of membership may not be the perfect solution, but shurely a better one than complete foreign definition. Foreign definition gives the state a kind of power which it shouldn't have.
      I say this as a German, Germany once had a state definition of what was a Jew, you should know what followed.

    • @miriamlana833
      @miriamlana833 4 місяці тому

      To add, that state definition was as arbitrary as sex assignment at birth sometimes is.

    • @slacktoryrecords4193
      @slacktoryrecords4193 4 місяці тому

      @@miriamlana833Why are you conflating the vanishingly rare occurrence of babies born with ambiguous genitalia as a result of a Disorder of Sexual Development, with trans-identifying people?

  • @juanzulu1318
    @juanzulu1318 4 місяці тому

    34:00 what is the term please. Paraphilia?

  • @petersmith2522
    @petersmith2522 4 місяці тому +1

    It means transition i believe same as trans humanism fusing robotics with humans

  • @williamralph9008
    @williamralph9008 4 місяці тому +1

    Try being a critical medical voice during Covid!

  • @berniefynn6623
    @berniefynn6623 4 місяці тому

    TRANSITION,TO MOVE FROM ONE STATE TO ANOTHER, NO HUMAN CAN DO THIS.

  • @stephentroake7155
    @stephentroake7155 4 місяці тому

    Is it the EU laws that were passed before Ireland had joined that the first speaker has a problem with? All members have the power of veto. 🤷‍♂

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 4 місяці тому

      Veto is a myth, do you really think EU let's states do whatever they want ?

  • @lh2435
    @lh2435 2 місяці тому

    It is the same in every western country. Real trans people don't need this because no-one would know they are trans after transitioning. So it is obviously about something else and coming from a very central point in the world and coming top down.

  • @culturespot75
    @culturespot75 4 місяці тому

    The only way to understand trans is to read Judith Butler's Queer philosophy of the late 80s and 90s and some of its background in the decade before. She was coming off a revolutionary political tide between NY and San Francisco. What has happened since is the elevation of this counterculture by liberal identity politics.

  • @gleannmhuire
    @gleannmhuire 4 місяці тому +8

    The Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF), formerly the Alliance Defense Fund, is an American conservative Christian legal advocacy group[6] that works to expand Christian religious liberties and practices within public schools and in government,[7][8] outlaw abortion,[9][10] and oppose LGBTQ rights.[11] ADF is headquartered in Scottsdale, Arizona, with branch offices in several locations including Washington, D.C., and New York.[12] Its international subsidiary, Alliance Defending Freedom International, with headquarters in Vienna, Austria,[13] operates in over 100 countries.[14]

    • @Gingerblaze
      @Gingerblaze 4 місяці тому +1

      Is this from their "about" page? Is it how they describe themselves or is it a description from wiki page?

    • @gleannmhuire
      @gleannmhuire 4 місяці тому

      @@Gingerblaze Wikipedia. And there’s lots more!

    • @Lala-kc2fw
      @Lala-kc2fw 4 місяці тому

      ​​​@@gleannmhuiresounds okay. We should return to the EEC and 🇪🇺 back to the glory days. Focus on Europe and stop with this oligarchy and too politicalised union.

    • @Engrave.Danger
      @Engrave.Danger 4 місяці тому

      That's the problem with LGBTQ all being lumped together. Even if someone doesn't support one aspect of it, like putting kids on puberty blockers, suddenly they're hateful bigots that are against the entire alphabet and wanna ban gay marriage and all the other BS. That's exactly why they do it. Gay rights don't have anything to do with boys in girls bathrooms and sports.
      Deny, deflect and redefine are some of the activist's favorite tactics and they've certainly got society more confused than a kid that wants to use a litter box.🤦‍♂️

    • @281992pdr
      @281992pdr 4 місяці тому +4

      And Stella and Graham are both publicly professed atheists, have publicly stated that they are pro-abortion and pro-LGB; so what is your point?

  • @johncee1481
    @johncee1481 Місяць тому

    Have you heard the joke about the trans organic chemist