Carbon Fiber Tube Guitar Neck - Great Guitar Build Off 2023

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  • Опубліковано 20 жов 2024

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  • @MarkGutierrez
    @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому +20

    Fingers crossed. I hope this works.

  • @thenerktwins
    @thenerktwins Рік тому +2

    I love using modern materials and interesting products to make guitars.

  • @amslu
    @amslu Рік тому +7

    Love seeing ppl pushing guitar building forward. Great content!

  • @Projekt59
    @Projekt59 Рік тому +11

    Your guitar builds are very inspiring to me. Awesome! 🤩

  • @bluglass7819
    @bluglass7819 Рік тому

    It will work great.

    • @bluglass7819
      @bluglass7819 Рік тому

      Kind of brings to mind a Gittler as far as the neck back goes.

  • @TotalBoat
    @TotalBoat Рік тому

    This is so cool. Awesome work!!

  • @realitystudioscustomshop
    @realitystudioscustomshop Рік тому

    Such a cool build, I reckon you got this

  • @cheapskate8656
    @cheapskate8656 Рік тому +1

    Looking good

  • @chuckplainview4085
    @chuckplainview4085 Рік тому +1

    Holy Moses this is something else man

  • @ethanbeavers5800
    @ethanbeavers5800 Рік тому +1

    Such an inspired design!

  • @kennyplaysguitar
    @kennyplaysguitar Рік тому +1

    I love this!!!

  • @koosb8162
    @koosb8162 10 місяців тому

    I do like it.

  • @johnfarmingdale
    @johnfarmingdale Рік тому +2

    If you add two smaller carbon fiber tubes stacked on the three, it might feel better in the hand as well, as strengthen it a little. It looks very cool. Nice work.

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому

      That's true, it would be "rounder" in the hand.

  • @restodroood
    @restodroood Рік тому

    Love your videos.

  • @TheBaconWizard
    @TheBaconWizard Рік тому

    Holy hell, not only is the project amazing but the quality of the video! Instant sub!

  • @BB49
    @BB49 Рік тому

    I like this, a very unique concept of patience!!!

  • @JacquesPatry
    @JacquesPatry Рік тому

    very cool experimentation, i love this !!👌👍

  • @spastickitchen
    @spastickitchen Рік тому +1

    Very cool idea! Can't wait to see this in action!

  • @fokinlordsamaels
    @fokinlordsamaels Місяць тому

    i would insert full size dowel into middle tube with trus rod routed in it

  • @ChadwickRider
    @ChadwickRider Рік тому +1

    I get excited whenever I see you've posted new content Mark... always looking forward to see what kind of innovative idea you have up your sleeve.

  • @ezequielgonzales210
    @ezequielgonzales210 Рік тому +1

    Very cool concept man! Its going to be badass!

  • @tijnstarr
    @tijnstarr Рік тому

    I love your Videos, real art. The Sound and the atmosphere ❤

  • @Dreamdancer11
    @Dreamdancer11 Рік тому

    Love it....whether its a success or fail these kind of projects are what we like to see....most of the people watching channels like these have built their own guitars with traditional methods and materials(or at least tried to) and watched countless other folks do the same but its always refreshing when people try new things,learn new things about themselves and we from them....iam all for something other than the old tired wooden builds...give me,carbon fiber,epoxy,aluminum(melted and poured into a mold)builds,micarta fretboards,hollow semi transparent instruments loaded with lights etc etc etc you name it...maybe that concept ll fail but ll trigger something in someone else watching to try something that he never thought of trying.....that worths more than watching people routing wooden blanks using templates for the billionth time......very cool concept and video my friend....

  • @j.schaefer5622
    @j.schaefer5622 Рік тому +1

    I would glue two solid 7 or 8mm carbon rods between the tubes to make it a little more solid and to give it a little more neck profile.

  • @alexander_noren
    @alexander_noren Рік тому +1

    i think when you apply some oil to the fretboard it will look enough glossy :)

  • @liontribegc
    @liontribegc Рік тому

    Amazing design!
    Cheers from Kerrville, Texas!
    🤘😺🤘
    Michael

  • @craftyoldgit768
    @craftyoldgit768 Рік тому +1

    Hi Mark, In a bazaar crossing of universes I made a Richlite long bow with a Bamboo backer, just held together with resin. The only and best way i found to seal the richlite was Olive oil! Just wiped it on, let id soak in/dry for an hour or 2 and wipe off. When it was dry it gave a fantastic sheen and did not mark from hand sweat.

  • @novacordaguitars-metecemkuzu
    @novacordaguitars-metecemkuzu Рік тому +1

    I use Odie's Oil on Richlite fretboards. It gives a very pleasant matt sheen to it.

  • @lj6278
    @lj6278 Рік тому +1

    Great idea on the fretboard inlays. In my work, aerospace, we use an adhesive called impregnated epoxy cloth. Think ducktape, the gray being the adhesive with a cloth like cheesecloth combined. It does need heat and pressure to cure properly. Easily done with a good heat gun and standard clamping. The cloth creates excellent torsional strength. But you got it right for what you are doing. Curious about the hollow tube's effect on sound and residence. Great videos, Brother!

  • @TheM00ndawg
    @TheM00ndawg Рік тому

    i wonder if you could put a channel down the back of a neck? a concave thing your thumb fits in.
    I'd keep it matte too.
    looking forward to the rest of the build.

  • @jaymuffinz
    @jaymuffinz Рік тому

    I think you should fill those triangles with epoxy. It would probably solve a few problems. Most notably any strange vibrations the tubes might introduce when rubbing together.

  • @Charles-Darwin
    @Charles-Darwin Рік тому

    Maybe you could run 2 neck-lengths of smaller diameter carbon or bamboo tubes in the troughs between the larger 3, it would still have a really unique neck profile w/ various steps you could place your thumb and would prob strengthen the flexible axis more.

  • @DarkArtGuitars
    @DarkArtGuitars Рік тому +1

    This is great. I think it's perfect for GGBO, as there are more than enough traditional guitars entered. To stand out you need to be different, which you got covered for sure :)
    Also I have no doubts about the strength of it, I'd say it will be even stronger than a usual neck.

  • @SweetTGuitars
    @SweetTGuitars Рік тому

    It won't break man. I absolutely love your creativity brother. It's refreshing to see your work.
    On the fretboard, richlite makes their own Hardwax oil!! I think a nice saturating coat of some thin hardwax like OSMO may solve the issue on the fretboard!! If you do spray it, I'd personally go satin!!✌️🤍

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому +1

      That's right! I forgot they make an oil. I need to look into that. Thanks for reminding me.

  • @xdoctorblindx
    @xdoctorblindx Рік тому

    A backstrap on the headstock with the richlite (same shape as the headstock with the same ridges) would be a nice touch and would ad some stability.

  • @RadityoPramAdi
    @RadityoPramAdi Рік тому

    go with the original look sir, I think it is already lookin great!

  • @das250250
    @das250250 Рік тому

    first thought , the centre post should be raised above the outer tubes roughly simulating a D shape

  • @cjw1397
    @cjw1397 Рік тому +1

    Leave it as is. I think It’ll look way more appropriate for the design.

  • @creativecomposites6193
    @creativecomposites6193 Рік тому

    Nice!, I would try and get a bit more epoxy in the gaps.Also maybe try and secure the tube at the head stock as torsional stresses might want to de-laminate the fret board from the tube. What tang depth is the fret wire just out of interest?

  • @johnstitt2615
    @johnstitt2615 Рік тому +1

    Satin Nitro

  • @gothridercreations
    @gothridercreations Рік тому +1

    Love the tube inlays and definitely stick with the matt look 😀 if it was me though I would still fill the gaps between the tubes and fretboard with epoxy, can't hurt to have more stability...

  • @BoneheadGuitars
    @BoneheadGuitars Рік тому

    I have zero doubts it will blow up in your face. I think it's much more likely that you find yourself wishing it had a little give. In any event, I'm anxious to see how it all comes together. And I know the sound demo will be awesome.

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому +1

      I'm not sure how many guitarists are like me but I set up all my guitars with zero relief. If there is any give, I'll probably using lighter strings or downtune.

    • @BoneheadGuitars
      @BoneheadGuitars Рік тому

      Yeah, my bet is it will be perfect.

  • @vincentverhoog8312
    @vincentverhoog8312 Рік тому

    I am very curieus how the guitar will be. Please finish it!

  • @Retro.Studio
    @Retro.Studio Рік тому

    Cool Mark, as my guitar building and a angler rod building experience goes carbon rods has a spine somewhere were carbon comes across with layers. Keep in mind That spine is very important to locate for react the bending of the carbon rods. But hey great work 👌🏼

  • @GeorgeSharp-rv6ez
    @GeorgeSharp-rv6ez 6 місяців тому

    What about the possibility of using a larger diameter tube cut in half for a neck?

  • @barrychristian4050
    @barrychristian4050 Рік тому

    I think it will work ok although I think i would have splodged ( highly technical term) expoxy between the tubes to tie them together when bonding to the fretboard.
    You definitely do have some very cool creative ideas 👍

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому +1

      One of the things about epoxy that I don't like is the unpredictable nature of it. You apply it somewhere but then after a few minutes is slowly crawls somewhere else. Clean up after it dries is a pain. That's one of the reasons I was so conservative with it.

  • @steventsunami9506
    @steventsunami9506 Рік тому

    Rich Lite is super porous. I made a couple fretboards with it and the TruOil finish was easy but didn't last. Wipe on poly did great and was easy enough. Also, a benefit I found was that the Rich Lite doesn't shrink, so you don't get fret sprout a year after building the neck. However, the natural wood underneath the fretboard, does shrink and you get a witness line that you can feel where the neck and fretboard meet. Great video and interesting idea!

  • @ChrisFranklyn
    @ChrisFranklyn Рік тому +1

    Richlite sounds like a pain. I'm really enjoying this experiment though!

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому

      It truly is. I wonder if the faux wood richilite is better at mimicking sanded wood.

  • @stuartp8658
    @stuartp8658 Рік тому

    Thanks for being innovative. I think I have commented before that guitarist are so conservative and that all guitars after the early 60's are inferior. Your comments around "but won't it feel weird, yes that's the point; to make you think and feel and thus play differently" are spot on. Sure we can love things about classic and traditional guitars, but we shouldn't limit ourselves to those being the only designs. Not every experiment will work, but the ones that do will help create great things.

  • @bartdemuynck2410
    @bartdemuynck2410 Рік тому

    Fascinating. How is the weight compared to a traditional neck with truss rod? Is there a particular reason why you did not align the 3 tubes? And do you have any idea how you could implement this concept while maintaining the possibility for a neck pickup?

  • @normbarrows
    @normbarrows Рік тому

    Looking good man! Looking good! On mine I glued the tubes to the fingerboard and to each other. Assuming epoxy is as strong as CA glue (what I used) you should have no problems. Richlite for my single tube experiment arrived. I'm debating whether to go with a flat radius or not. On yours, I'd give it a clearcoat finish if time allows. I hadn't really thought about finishing the Richlite. I guess oil won't work on a paper composite material, eh? . I would think some sort of clear coat would be required to protect it from dirt buildup. OTOH, the stuff is pretty tough, so perhaps no finish is really required. But clearcoat might reduce the tendency to pick up finger smudge marks.

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому

      I regret putting a radius on the richilite. I debated going with a flat radius. A flat radius would have solved my finish problem.

    • @normbarrows
      @normbarrows Рік тому

      @@MarkGutierrez Looks like the really tricky part is how to finish the Richlite. Time to do research. They make fingerboards with different colored layers, so you get a pattern as you radius them. So they obviously can be made to look good, or they wouldn't bother with such things. Based on the comments here, an oil - perhaps mineral, linseed, or tung,-based - might work.

  • @terryenglish7132
    @terryenglish7132 Рік тому

    Concerning carbon rods. Use crushed Walnut shells for epoxy filler to bind the rods together , and also to the fingerboard. No need to fill up all the empty space, just enough to change the single point where the rod touches the other rod and the fingerboard to 1/4 , 3/8 inch. Walnut shell is harder than any wood. The crushed/powdered shells are used for both Reptile habitat liter , and instead of sand in compressed air blasting of paint, so the metal isn't damaged like it would be w sand. I got mine on line , Pet Co etc. might have it.

  • @josephreese
    @josephreese 8 місяців тому

    I built a 12 sting out of stealth aircraft smogglel out of Lockheed !

  • @rob9340
    @rob9340 Рік тому

    Hey Mark, I saw your Carbon fibre guitar neck and clicked on for interest. Wow! GO for it dude. I understand your fear of it failing, bit it is obvious you have already considered deeply so much about so many parts of the design. If it fails, it fails, but you will quickly learn from those failures. I am self studying luthiery, and I am always looking for new solutions to some obvious traditional issues with guitar design. There is a lot of romanticism in guitar building, some should stay, some we should move away from. Really interested to see how tis develops.

  • @EVAmucc5569
    @EVAmucc5569 Рік тому

    next time try adding hatching or a pattern to a fretboard then you wont have to buff it, you could even fill epoxy to make it smooth or just make it pop.
    maybe heat gun or fire would smooth it?

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому

      True. I just watched a Richlite video on how to get a "leather" look. They just use a 3M pad on an oscillating sander and it creates a "textured" look that is way better than buffing.

  • @russellmorgan5611
    @russellmorgan5611 11 місяців тому

    Found myself thinking how wide the fretboard is at the heel end as a result of the taper, whilst the tubes are parallel resulting in an "overhang". Was that not a consideration during the process, or did I miss something ?

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  11 місяців тому +1

      It was 100% a design choice. I played with splaying out the tubes to meet the edge of the tapered fretboard but it didn't look as "neat and tidy" most of the overhang you are seeing ends up over the body. The hands don't notice. Same with the nut. The tubes are wider than the fretboard. This was also a choice. It's different that's for sure.

  • @vincenzoabbate3374
    @vincenzoabbate3374 8 місяців тому

    Ciao quanto pesa il manico?
    Comunque ottimo lavoro 👍

  • @uygarbocutoglu4465
    @uygarbocutoglu4465 6 місяців тому

    had the same idea.

  • @wolfhorsky
    @wolfhorsky Рік тому

    Maybe You should try to use oil to make the richlite look/feel better

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому

      The richlite doesn't look porous to me. Not sure oil will do anything except wipe off completely.

    • @wolfhorsky
      @wolfhorsky Рік тому

      @@MarkGutierrez Thank You for Your time and reply. I still stand behind my opinion. Richlite is self lubricating material that in fact absorb the fats from the fingers. And beyond tht I wish to thank You for Your work and Your great vids. You have so many crazy ideas and Your videos are so calm and almost like asmr to me. I am inspired by You and I made my project of the body in Shapr3d, and three days ago I had it done in CNC!!!
      Thank You.

  • @Grunttamer
    @Grunttamer Рік тому

    I hope you went with the satin nitro, that fingerboard looks ashy

  • @robertguimbarda9562
    @robertguimbarda9562 Рік тому

    Music Man produced some Modulus fiber Cutlas models in the mid 80’s. Don’t believe they were mass produced.

  • @terryeaster1
    @terryeaster1 Рік тому

    Awesome build, I would rather hear you explain each step than listen to the music

  • @donald-parker
    @donald-parker Рік тому

    Don't spray! Keep it "natural" (as natural as a neck made of composite carbon fiber can be I guess).

  • @familyengineering5591
    @familyengineering5591 Рік тому

    Shhh mark you need to whisper! Youre going to wake up your parents! 🤫

  • @anthonyb5279
    @anthonyb5279 Рік тому

    NO its 100% going to work.

  • @sukitta2
    @sukitta2 Рік тому

    Can't you just fill the space between the tubes with epoxi? It'd be barely invisible, and add some resistence to it, no? I'm a total layman btw, just throwing stuff out.
    Edit: I got to the 20 min mark now, but I still wanna feel like I participated.

  • @scottkeeler2306
    @scottkeeler2306 Рік тому

    Just hold on now for one second…
    Downstairs
    How big of a footprint is that going to leave??

  • @adairguitars
    @adairguitars Рік тому

    The deadline is getting too close I think! I’m sure you’ll be able to trouble shoot any issues that arise. It’s looking great from what we’ve seen so far.

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому

      It's definitely not the way I'm used to building, I like to take my time.

  • @TheDantheman12121
    @TheDantheman12121 Рік тому

    nice video honestly great but why does the music make it seem like I am playing a silent hill horror game???

  • @JayKughan
    @JayKughan Рік тому

    I just watched a video on bamboo yesterday. Apparently, bamboo is a type of grass, so you still there still isn't wood involved in this build 🤘
    Besides which, I think the neck's going to be suuuper heavy if you fill it with epoxy.. like seriously uncomfortably weighty.
    🍻

  • @alanhoggard4554
    @alanhoggard4554 Рік тому

    I love the biblical symbols

  • @andipranks3087
    @andipranks3087 Рік тому

    tienes unos dedotes we

  • @WowIndescribable
    @WowIndescribable Рік тому

    No zero fret? A missed opportunity there…

    • @MarkGutierrez
      @MarkGutierrez  Рік тому

      I need a nut mostly for the string break angle to the locking clamp.

  • @stevenbrown5695
    @stevenbrown5695 Рік тому

    Want to sale me one?

  • @terryeaster1
    @terryeaster1 Рік тому

    Leave off the nitro