Building a Guitar Out of Carbon Fiber 2.0
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- Опубліковано 19 тра 2022
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I take some more carbon fiber cloth and make another attempt at building an acoustic guitar out of it. - Наука та технологія
I wouldn't say one sounds "better" than the other. They both have their own sound and personality. Another really cool build, man!
...not true, the wooden soundboard sounded better. it's 2.0 it is improved; one could even say evolved. or whatever LOL!
I agree. The wood top sounded brighter but both sound good. Just two different crayons in the box
Wtf are you talking about bro? The wooden guitar sounds wayyy warmer through this compressed youtube audio and my airpods
@@christopher-miles What is "better"? One tone could be great for one song and a second tone could be awful for that song. You can't just say "Oh that one sounds better BECAUSE" it's all relative. What you should be saying is, "The wooden top sounds better for solo acoustic pieces because it has a fuller sound and resonant low-mids." But, alas, I expect too much.
@@cooperarbogast4018my post was a joke
They're both good, has different sound character, this is really a user preference. Love the build, learned something new again.
the yamaha is clearly the best cmon
@@MenkoDany yeah i think so too
You must be tone-deaf; they both sound horrible. Because both guitars have no bracing. Without bracing, any guitar is a rattling box. Bracing produces the actual sound of the guitar, harnesses the vibrations from the top and separates frequencies, gives the guitar its singing voice.
It's neat seeing how the builds has improved and continues to.
V1 deep tone
V2 bright and full
I heard V1 as just bright with no body, the tone did not come out to my ears.
V2 definitely has a full sound
it is indeed very cool. Hope he makes a v3 eventually
I love how every little “mistake” or issue becomes a nice little feature of your builds. That fret board inlayed into the sound board solution this time around was so simple yet came out super cool.
For you, as a super talented artist/craftsman, they’re just “happy little accidents” giving each guitar their unique character and in my eyes, gives them a story and raises their desirability.
Man and both guitars sound so good too, with their own character of sounds; so I couldn’t decide!
It's the little things that makes these videos so good. The clips following the snare was so satisfying at 7:42
Like the creativity very much and there is a carbon fiber guitar brand called Enya whose guitar is also great
I notice you're using twill weave for all the layers.. you can reduce your cost by using unidirectional carbon fiber for the inner layers, only using twill weave for the visible outside layers, and perhaps under the sound hole. This should actually increase its rigidity if you orient them in different directions, and you can get a greater overall thickness for less money this way. Unidirectional CF is very cheap if you buy it in 1-2 foot wide increments. I'm also very curious to reinforce one with flax fibers. I've been studying this since your first video years ago and I'm almost ready to start buying tools now! Thanks for the inspiration! Love your projects and can't wait to see what you come up with next!
Good thinking
Thanks for the insight! I actually used 3 different types of carbon fiber to construct the body. All of the outer layers are twill weave but there's two other layers of plain weave that I added for rigidity on the bottom and around the neck block area. You can see me adding the layers of plain weave to the bottom at 1:10 (the layer at 1:10 I'm not actually sure what type of weave it is, but the final one at 1:13 is plain)
Good luck with your project!
@@BurlsArt Must have missed that when I watched the video for the first time, glad you already knew to do that, sorry if it sounded like I was preaching to the choir haha
@@rw9495 Just as a side note, I think using resin-infusion would be the best approach to this rather than a wet-layup. Next time.
Graphite Guitar Systems has sued over this if it goes far enough. It kind of defames us when you don't research the original patent holders for things like this.
-Modulus Guitars, Graphite Guitar Systems
Can you make a carbon fiber electric guitar? 🎸
Aluminum will be nice too
@@danzmachinz2269 too heavy
@@paulodeecastro just epoxy on an aluminium sheet like the Manson Delorean. It looks sick !
@@paulodeecastro michael angelo batio has a guitar made of aircraft aluminum!!
@@sampurdon5014 He also has a quad guitar, so he does not count.
You are incredible, I just started attending wood work classes (inspired by you) and I have a newfound respect for you and just how difficult this is. Guys, he makes it look easy but he puts in so much work to make these videos happen
The few "issues" you had, and their eventual solutions, make it a true custom. Love the clamping system and, as always, love your work.
My first acoustic was an Ovation, plastic bowl back not carbon fiber. I still pick it up from time to time and I really enjoy how it sounds. It’s not the same as my other regular acoustics, but has a really pleasant full sound.
It is amazing the subtle sound differences make such a huge impact. Not that any sound better than the other, more so that the mixture of the guitars made for such a dynamic sounding song with just the change of guitars and not placement of the capo or anything. You're an amazingly skilled luthier. I've watched pretty much all your vids and they never stop amazing me.
It's so awesome to see how far you've come!! Your projects are always a cozy time to watch and your creativity makes for really entertaining videos. I've been on almost since the beginning and your clear epoxy guitar playtest is on a lot of my playlists cause it's such a great tune. Thank you for keeping this going!
Man, picking between the two is tough. They both sound wonderful, but I'm personally gonna give it to the full carbon fiber guitar.
The Yamaha def had the best sound.
Xeah, wooden top gives a lot fuller sound, clearer sound
Wood sounds better! Perhaps a carbon fibre electric guitar next?
carbon fiber semihallow?
already been done commercially (Parker fly), plus the sound of an electric is 99% determined by the pickups so it would only be for the sake of making a carbon body, and sound identical to if it were made of any other material.
@@slowdriver6868 yeah but itd still be cool, maybe a carbon fiber hybrid guitar over he semi hallow
All carbon fiber sounds a lot more full while the hard top sounds more open. Both sound great! Also, amazing choice on the turquoise fret markers, very great accent color
Bro, you do some amazing work. Even though they are experimental projects. I would definitely buy your guitars, I already have a plan in my head. And I don't want to do it. Lol. It just adds to the 4 projects I have going right now, one is major. It was/ is for my dad, who passed in March of last year. It has to be perfect, it not an option. He was the best and deserves nothing less. Keep the good work and videos coming. You got a future in guitar innovation, any company should consider themselves lucky to have you.
So your channel inspired me to get more into my woodwork. I've been building benches, and I'm finishing up my first that's fully held together by wooden dowels. Keep up your awesome work.
i love the rawness of the build with rough mistakes in places. Watching most channels gives a unrealistic result that hoibbiest and amateurs take on projects like this. great work!
In the future when you wrap the outside, make the seams meet where you attach the neck so the guitar has the appearance of being seamless.
Just an idea.
This came out beautiful and I can’t even imagine the level of work and stress involved! Great job!
Great job man! I always love your posts. You are blessed with skills and knowledge. I like how when things don’t go to plan, you find a fix and move forward. That is an art in itself! Keep cranking out awesome content!
SO beautiful! I love the turquoise inlays so much.
possible sulution for holding fretboards on when gluing: offset the inlaysand drill the locating screws into the inlay holes so that way, you're not potentially mucking up your fret slots.
Amazing craftmanship!!! Kudos!
They both sound pretty good but the wood top one just sounds more traditional and has a better tone. Well done on both of them!
I agree.😊
Like many have commented, they each have their own character. Number 2 resonates more and has a very pleasing traditional sound. Well done!
Both of them have such unique tones, the brighter, twangy sound from the pure carbon fiber one and the fuller deeper sound from the wood topped one. Aww man these videos are so inspirational! Another banger 😁
I Love your work! You are an amazingly talented Luthier 🎸
This build sounds better than the previous one, and I would say that sounds even better than the full wooden guitar, the mid frequency is pretty accurate. Good job, and good video too! Thank you for sharing it!
I'm a big fan of composite guitars. I had a Martin with a composite body and neck once. It was the most stable guitar I've ever owned, and only ever needed one truss rod adjustment in the 3 years I had it. Nice job!
Man that carbon fiber has really good sustain. Wouldn't have guessed. The wood top made a huge difference I think acoustically, but definitely not meant for a pickup IMO. The think the full carbon fiber guitar really shines with finger picking, but the wood top gave it the versatility you look for in an acoustic guitar. Nice build, and can't wait to continue watching you grow as a luthier.
The separate carbon prices for the sides looks so amazing. Well done
Great job man I really enjoy your guitar playing at the end of the videos very nice playing
Just watched the original carbon fiber episode the other day and was hoping you’d revisit it. Glad to see this video finally come out!!
Very nice guitar. Sounds is amazing. Thanks for sharing
Always a treat to watch you build, Burl
This is killer!! One of our favs, amazing job!
I get happy whenever you post. Right now I don't have the resources, but one day I want to build guitars like this. Needless to say, your channel is very inspiring to me, and I belive to many others. Thank you.
Another beautiful (and really cool) piece. You were obviously already a very skilled craftsman before even launching this channel..... but it has been a pleasure to watch your guitar-making skill progress. Man, you're making so many of these things, you should really come up with some kind of signature logo to slap on the headstock of future guitars.
The ones made with carbon fiber have a "sharper" tone, they have a lot of highs in the sound (especially the one without the wood top). But I agree, each of the guitars has its own unique sound. Great job!
Sounds and looks good to me. Great job as always!
Very very cool. I actually like how bright the fiber/wood one is.
The wood soundboard really makes the guitar sound the way it should. Plain carbon fiber always sounded a little tinny. I assume the electronics, recording, compression and editing probably skew what we hear, but that guitar sounds good.
The carbon body and wood top definitely gives it a deeper low end and higher top end! it's a decent contrast as full wood body guitars usually have to give up one or the other. Really cool build man!
I think my favourite part of this channel is his chill personality. There are lots of talented builders on UA-cam, but not all of them have such an appealing personality.
So bright, sound good for lead guitar on acoustic section.
I enjoyed the project. These kind of things lead to some unique knowledge and special creations.
Awesome! I think the version 2 is very cool! I think it has a brighter sound which i like more
Great stuff! Thanks for sharing
Mr. Burls Art,
You are probably the best damn UA-camr out there and I’m not just saying that. You post consistent, quality content and continue to raise the bar and exceed everyone’s expectations. You critique your own work honestly and complement your amazing builds with great camera work and insightful commentary. Keep doin you. 🤘
Nice! Sounds really good! Next step, make a acoustic guitar out of a pvc pipe, cut a big pvc pipe in half and mold it with a heat gun, i think it be possible to make in that way!
I like the brightness of the wood topped carbon guitar. it sounds articulate and responsive.
I love how the wood top looks and sounds
I own a Fender Stratacoustic, which is basically a Frankenstein guitar with one piece fibreglass body, basswood laminate top, all with a strat neck bolted on. I love it, very small body so the sound is a little "boxy'; it's amazing for blues with some real bark, yet can sound sweet and resonant if played right. It's tough as anything as well.
You have earned a subscriber. Amazing job!!
I love that you listen to your fans and improve your builds with the constructive critique. This is cool af
The wood top one sounds a lot brighter in tone! Love it :)
Herculean👍🏼, dude. ❤️ the sound of 2.0; best of the three in the vid, imo. 👉🤘🏻
If you ever feel interested you should create a skill share class to help people get into making guitars. I’d love to start my own projects but I don’t know where to start and I like your style.
I like the sound and sustain
The wood top just makes it resonate better. You just can't beat wood when it comes to a nice full sounding guitar.
That 2.0 sounds crisp and good👏👏👏
Very cool video! For me the one with the wood top sounds best. But both are unique in their own way. Also I’d be fun to see you build a resonator guitar out of unconventional materials such as brass sheets, aluminum or anything else that you find!
That end tune is amazing!
The difference in the low end is so neat!
Would you be open to doing a full build tutorial/lesson? I want to learn how to build a guitar and I love your work and I’d love to learn from you.
The folksiness of the carbon fiber is incredible.
The depth of the wood top is incredible.
Two way win.
I am in AWE of your Luthier skills, but my FAVORITE part is the end of the video when you jam!
What I got the sound test is that Yamaha really knows how to make a great sounding acoustic. Sick video man
I like it, has a brighter tone and a nice low end to it.
What a Beautiful Guitar you made!
I think it sounds the best out of the three, it looks great too, sounds amazing
It seems to carry the lows very well. Well done cool guitar 👍
your skills are amazing!
great idea,you had your own creativity.i had my acoustic guitar too...first time to see this made of carbon fiber.
I don't know much about guitars or instruments in general but I do play around with guitars and harmonica. With that being said, your project came out pretty cool and sound is pretty good!
I enjoy version 2's sound more. The all carbon has the "cigar box" and muffled sound. Both great construction work. Taking inspiration from you I hope to build a smallish double necked guitar.
Of the tree guitars I think the mixed one sounds the best!
It has a better response in the low register than the all-carbon fiber one but is more detailed and has better high frequencies than the Yamaha
You did a great job, this is interesting 👍👍👍
The wood is warmer which is as expected. Carbon fiber is lighter and more elastic(stiffer not stretchier) so doesn't resonate as much. The carbon fiber one has its own uses but def the wood top is more of an all rounder
I just binge watched all your videos and was sad you didn't have more. Awesome! (I am an addict)
Version 2 sounds great 👍
The wooden top one here has a more balanced sound to my ears. The all carbon fiber one sounds a bit on the dark side, but the surprising one was the yamaha which had a real thuddy/boomy sound to my ears.
Nice Song at the end!
Great work
Cool project!
I'd like to hear what a carbon fiber arch-top would sound like, in the traditional style with a tailpiece. I think it might take better advantage of the material properties, since the fibers would be loaded in-plane. It may also be trickier to fabricate, might require a new fiberglass mold, and may work better with satin weave fabric (to control bunching at the edges). But it might sound good, and I think metal tailpiece on the carbon fiber arch top could look super sexy.
Might also experiment with fiberglass tops, or a fiberglass layer under the carbon--if you have compatible materials--to add a bit of mass for more resonance. I think maybe the sound of this flat carbon top suffered from being too stiff.
they both sound great.
I’d say the wood top is better for finger picking, the all carbon fiber one had a more shallow resonance but they both sound great man! Keep it up 🤘
man you are awesome! im almost done with my first handmade instrument (a ukulele), i think im gonna try a guitar next
The carbon fiber guitar has a really bright tone and the Yamaha has a really nice and mellow warm tone. The hybrid carbon fiber and wood guitar has a bright tone that retains the warmth of the wood. It's a very interesting sound, I like it.
WOW That is Awesome looking !!!!!!
Cool. With neck joint and entire neck back with unidirectional and +-45 layers you could get no creep within neck/body joint and no creep/twist in the neck. You would just have to determine number of layers and how thick they are going to be and subtract that while making a wooden neck profile so you can finish with proper/desired neck width (taper).
Fun idea! To be a fairer test, the entirely CF guitar needs to be constructed exactly like the body on the 2.0 version because there are too many structural variables that would change the tone from the 1.0.
1) The body shapes need to be identical. The 2.0 version has a wider body and shoulders as compared to the 1.0, so it’s automatically going to project a larger sound regardless of the soundboard materials on both guitars.
2) The 1.0 has a bolt-on neck and a different kind of neck block as compared with the 2.0’s glued in neck and block. On an electric guitar, that’s not going to matter as much with pickups, but it often affects resonance and tone on acoustics.
3) I am not clear how you recorded the sound samples. Did you mic the 1.0 and plug in the 2.0 to an amp and mic that (or plug in straight to a DAW)? Or did you record both acoustically without the 2.0’s pickup? That’s also going to affect the sound samples and guitar tone. To be fairer, both guitars would need identical pickup systems . . . and to be recorded with AND without the pickups so we can hear the differences between how well they work. Usually a guitar with a pickup is going to sound much larger and boomier than a mic’ed guitar without a pickup.
That being said, you need to build a 3.0 with the identical body that is 100% CF, has the same glued-in neck structure as the 2.0, and then you’ll know for sure. It should also be recorded with identical pickup systems and the same clean amp, as well as making a second 100% acoustic recording without the pickups. Doing these things would even the playing field and make much fairer results.
The 1.0 and 2.0 both sound pretty nice, though!
Make a fretboard that fitted the body is very difficult. You do it well. Sound different than the other 2. Your experiment is really fun to watch.
Beautiful
Wow the wood top CF sits perfectly in the middle of the 3 ! Not to bassy and muted like the Yamaha and not as thin as full CF
I have a carbon fiber pool cue with a maple core. The carbon outer shell ended up cracking because the wood likes to expand and contract whereas the carbon fiber does not. I've got a bad feeling about that build. Really cool though!
i’m sure others have mentioned this, but the flexible orange driveway market posts from Home Depot work really well as downward clamps in a Go bar setup
id say for a fingerpicking style the carbon back with wood top sounds beautiful one of the best sounds out of an acoustic for fingerpicking in my opinion but for just strumming along full carbon has a really unique sound
both absolutely beautiful guitars tho
That Yamaha sounds really good, but still, well done on yours. I am not interested in guitars, but I've been hooked on your videos.
I tried a similar experiment back in the 80's with a left over piece of Kevlar that was given to me by my boss. It was between .040 and .060 thick and I used it for a top on a crash damaged Epiphone acoustic. I used the original braces and bridge. It had the same Plastic tone as your Carbon fiber guitars. I didn't like it and gave it to a kid who lived in the neighborhood.
The all carbon fiber one has a brighter, louder tone. Akin to a taylor or a breedlove.
The one with the wood top has a darker, richer, fuller tone. Akin to a Martin or a Guild guitar.
Either way, they both sound beautiful and both look amazing. Good job.
And the Yamaha FS-TA has a Yamaha-y tone. Akin to a Yamaha or perhaps even a Yamaha. XD
@@ryanokerlund3572 huh?
@@timrunion I thought when I clicked "Read More" on your original post, you were going to say something about the Yamaha in the video being like a Yamaha as a joke. But you didn't make the joke, so I made it for ya. Haha!
@@ryanokerlund3572 oh, ok. 👍