26650 would make great power tools. The durability, cycle rating, and high amperage could make a pack that is capable of offering lifetime warranty, unheard of for power tool battery. They would also cone in at 16v, avoiding the 18v licensing fee. It would be easy to advertise them as 5 cells with the power of 10. Smaller tools that give up nothing to 18v 10 cell 18650 tools.
@@sworddice there is, for some reason the patent office in usa granted milwaukee tools an exclusivity to run lithium cordless at 18v, and so they collect royalities when others do 18v tools. it's asinine, but it's true.
A Professor at Arizona state, developed cells that use Lithium/Sulfur combination.. He showed that they had 5 times the range of a NCR18650GA cell.. He disappeared, maybe his batteries were too efficient and they suicide'd him...
sir good explanation ..I have used the battery in my 12S pack .as it separately has so many advantages.after one year of use on my ebike there was serious issue of imbalance so bms was cutting off too soon while charging for over vol n while discharging for under vol..we tried to discharge on bench tests and finally found that though volts are ok there is no correlation with amps per cell for corresponding voltage
Hey, Dr., thanks for the battery education I have just received! And yes, I think Boosted's battery choice and failure to adapt had to contribute to their down fall. That opinion thanks to the info you presented so well in this video.
Depends There are 26650's that are 3'7v (li-ion) and 3'2v (lifepo4). If your 26650's are 3'7v, most probably you can use the same charger (as long as the cells fit) but if they are 3'2v, you'll need a charger that can change the voltage it stops at
Dr E FYI: All 26650's are mis lableled' regardless of brand. The 26650 is a 18650 battery packed inside the 26650 can. 18650's DoNOT have a rating over 3700mah. Therefore no 26650 can be rated over 3700mah. China's biggest lithium battery scam ever.
So I have some laser pointers and some long throw LEP flashlights that have a straight edged condensed beam that's been measured at 2,560meters up to 3,100 meters. So I have a question for you.. I have one GH 18650 6,800mAH 3.7v and a Epoch 30P 18650 industrial series rated at 3.6v 3,000mAH 15A 10.8Wh so is there significance considering the 3.7v to the 3.6v? Also the industrial is rated at 3,000 mAH where the other is a much larger 6,800mAH what is the significance of 3,000 vs 6,800 mAH??
Also I have two lithium ion 21700 One is EPOCH INR 21700/3.7v 5,000 mAH / 10A the other is INR21700 -40T Samsung SDI how do these compare to a Lithium-ion SW26650-50ME. 18Wh 5000mAH? Also in this video he says the 26650 is an Lithium Iron Phosphate but on my battery it says it's a Lithium -ion so this video is a few years old. Did they start making the 26650 in a Lithium-ion?? Also what does the 18Wh stand for on this 26650?? The EPOCH 18650 had 10.8 Wh? The SW26650 seems to give my flashlight more power or a brighter beam compared to the EPOCK 27100 battery. Your thoughts? Thanks for your help answering any of my questions
lets add one more to the mix. what about the 26700 battery in earlier Milwaukee drill v batteries. Can you use the same charger on the smaller batteries? The batteries in my V18 Milwaukee takes a full charge, However they only last about 5 minutes and it goes almost dead again.
I would probably not use them drill batteries, you don't know what the current limits are on the BMS of it(unless you know) and that could be causing the battery to not work, perhaps not dead.
21700 is more efficient but still weighs more, less volume. 18650 still very good cost efficient and lighter but more batteries. Use both as options, not one is better for every situation.
You have a great platform thank you for sharing this but I've been trying to find these batteries and I can't find them anywhere on any website I need them for my flashlights maybe you can help me? 🖐️👍😎👌
Good video, I have a question, I just ordered a 26 650 battery for vaping mod for e-cigarette, it indicates that is fully charged but when I use the device it says low battery. Could this be a cheap knockoff battery or are these batteries specifically made for e-cigarettes?
That's because 26650 batteries have lower voltage, if your mod doesn't include change for the voltage it will say low battery. Fully charged 18650 is 4.2v vs 26650 3.7v.
they are not made by tesla but by Samsumg. However, Telsa does make lithium cells with the same 21700 can format (that is 21 mm diameter by 700 mm lenght), but telsa chemisty might differ a bit from Samsung's.
Enjoyable comparison 👌🏼👌🏼 Your pretend accent sounds like its inspired by that Family Guy character 😂 Im lookin forward to Graphene batteries in future esk8
hey bro, new sub here , u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active here ! , i am tracking down 2 #21700 batts , new preferred for my e.d.c. flashlight , but can only trade for them here , could you help me out any possibly ? , love talking flashlights n such , thanks > tom !
Their batteries are not why they went out of buisiness. They went under when they branched out . Do you remember the mini and the scooter. Big branches make heavy limbs
Some of your stuff is really informative and intelligent! Then you make videos like this one and it's just sad. Your shop or ur garage looks to be disheveled. I mean how hard is it to have a scale handy when you're going to be teaching people about battery's you know you're going to need to weigh The Cells to compare them and then you're so redundant you spend 12 minutes saying the same thing over and over again come on bro your game is better than that.... for example you didn't mention anything about the internal resistance of the cells which is one of the most important things when it comes to building a balanced battery pack. And your nominal battery power and your actual battery power are two different things. I'm in no way trying to be rude or mean my brother... but in my 45 years I've learned that you're true true Brothers will tell you when your game is slipping and failing below the Excellence you're capable of to help you better yourself. God bless you and keep you safe....
Well I try to make it easy for regular people to understand, not confuse them with every technical detail. Please understand not everyone has a background in electronics. It is hard to teach. ;)
Out here dropping knowledge and looking like a young Jim Lee.
I found that batch slapping them with plugging the charger in and off a few times worked better than leaving it plugged in over night
Battery fanatic here myself!!!!
26650 would make great power tools. The durability, cycle rating, and high amperage could make a pack that is capable of offering lifetime warranty, unheard of for power tool battery. They would also cone in at 16v, avoiding the 18v licensing fee. It would be easy to advertise them as 5 cells with the power of 10. Smaller tools that give up nothing to 18v 10 cell 18650 tools.
i dont know there's licensing for specific voltage being used in power tools..
@@sworddice there is, for some reason the patent office in usa granted milwaukee tools an exclusivity to run lithium cordless at 18v, and so they collect royalities when others do 18v tools. it's asinine, but it's true.
Bosch use them.
They're also more dangerous if 1 cell fails at 4.3V(overchraged) there will be to too much fire than 18650.
A Professor at Arizona state, developed cells that use Lithium/Sulfur combination.. He showed that they had 5 times the range of a NCR18650GA cell.. He disappeared, maybe his batteries were too efficient and they suicide'd him...
Thank you for the excellent explanation regarding the different battery sizes.
Thanks!
thanks brother, very helpful.
love from India.
Learning so much on your channel. Thank you so much!!
sir good explanation ..I have used the battery in my 12S pack .as it separately has so many advantages.after one year of use on my ebike there was serious issue of imbalance so bms was cutting off too soon while charging for over vol n while discharging for under vol..we tried to discharge on bench tests and finally found that though volts are ok there is no correlation with amps per cell for corresponding voltage
Finally i learn what the number means
Hello is the 27100 same size as a D cell battery?
😁21700 is what I got now, and I'm cool with that. Now to do a custom work.
26650 for the win, much more capacity compared to 21700.
@@receptayyip1410 And it cost more than 21700 as well. 60v 30ah 21700 batteries. I'm fine with that. 26650 will be too big for my scooter.
Helpful video, thanks!
What kind of fire extinguisher is needed to put out a fire from these cells...?
if i'm having trouble with soldering old joints is it just coatings, or corrosion, heat, flux? sometimes it's like the solder joint is fighting me
is it possible too build a better battery for the exway altas 4wd?
Hey, Dr., thanks for the battery education I have just received! And yes, I think Boosted's battery choice and failure to adapt had to contribute to their down fall. That opinion thanks to the info you presented so well in this video.
Thanks!
What is current best batteries for Monster Ebike +/- 72V 75Ah ?
Which batter are the same size as D cell battery?
For ev 26650 best or 21700 which one is higher density and power
Does 21650 and 21700 battery can use the same charger?
Depends
There are 26650's that are 3'7v (li-ion) and 3'2v (lifepo4). If your 26650's are 3'7v, most probably you can use the same charger (as long as the cells fit) but if they are 3'2v, you'll need a charger that can change the voltage it stops at
Great info, thank you
Hey you had another channel.. no?
It is difficult to find good wholesale 18650 batteries.
Whats the best 26650 battery like 21700 best is p42a
I have a dead Gen 1Boosted board that I'd like you to revive! That would be fantastic!
Dr E FYI: All 26650's are mis lableled' regardless of brand. The 26650 is a 18650 battery packed inside the 26650 can. 18650's DoNOT have a rating over 3700mah. Therefore no 26650 can be rated over 3700mah. China's biggest lithium battery scam ever.
So I have some laser pointers and some long throw LEP flashlights that have a straight edged condensed beam that's been measured at 2,560meters up to 3,100 meters. So I have a question for you.. I have one GH 18650 6,800mAH 3.7v and a Epoch 30P 18650 industrial series rated at 3.6v 3,000mAH 15A 10.8Wh so is there significance considering the 3.7v to the 3.6v? Also the industrial is rated at 3,000 mAH where the other is a much larger 6,800mAH what is the significance of 3,000 vs 6,800 mAH??
Also I have two lithium ion 21700
One is EPOCH INR 21700/3.7v 5,000 mAH / 10A the other is INR21700 -40T Samsung SDI how do these compare to a Lithium-ion SW26650-50ME. 18Wh 5000mAH? Also in this video he says the 26650 is an Lithium Iron Phosphate but on my battery it says it's a Lithium -ion so this video is a few years old. Did they start making the 26650 in a Lithium-ion?? Also what does the 18Wh stand for on this 26650?? The EPOCH 18650 had 10.8 Wh? The SW26650 seems to give my flashlight more power or a brighter beam compared to the EPOCK 27100 battery. Your thoughts? Thanks for your help answering any of my questions
lets add one more to the mix. what about the 26700 battery in earlier Milwaukee drill v batteries. Can you use the same charger on the smaller batteries? The batteries in my V18 Milwaukee takes a full charge, However they only last about 5 minutes and it goes almost dead again.
I would probably not use them drill batteries, you don't know what the current limits are on the BMS of it(unless you know) and that could be causing the battery to not work, perhaps not dead.
@@dr.eskateboard3381 I am referring to the original battery pack.
Which one is best?
21700 is more efficient but still weighs more, less volume. 18650 still very good cost efficient and lighter but more batteries. Use both as options, not one is better for every situation.
You have a great platform thank you for sharing this but I've been trying to find these batteries and I can't find them anywhere on any website I need them for my flashlights maybe you can help me? 🖐️👍😎👌
Good video, I have a question, I just ordered a 26 650 battery for vaping mod for e-cigarette, it indicates that is fully charged but when I use the device it says low battery. Could this be a cheap knockoff battery or are these batteries specifically made for e-cigarettes?
That's because 26650 batteries have lower voltage, if your mod doesn't include change for the voltage it will say low battery. Fully charged 18650 is 4.2v vs 26650 3.7v.
Didnt know samsung 40t was made by tesla. They are the same size but totally different cell chemistry.
they are not made by tesla but by Samsumg. However, Telsa does make lithium cells with the same 21700 can format (that is 21 mm diameter by 700 mm lenght), but telsa chemisty might differ a bit from Samsung's.
26650 two variant lipho and lithium
Max Lee, is that you????
Enjoyable comparison 👌🏼👌🏼
Your pretend accent sounds like its inspired by that Family Guy character 😂
Im lookin forward to Graphene batteries in future esk8
hey bro, new sub here , u.s. marine vet here 93' to 97' active here ! , i am tracking down 2 #21700 batts , new preferred for my e.d.c. flashlight , but can only trade for them here , could you help me out any possibly ? , love talking flashlights n such , thanks > tom !
You really should re-wrap that 21700 if it hasn’t blown up yet
Nice max
PLEASE omit the ZERO at the end it is a bogus thing.
My 26650 is Li-ion 😆 not Lifepo4
Theres 2 kind of 26650. Better to compare Li-ion vs Li-ion.
Wasn't expecting the deep voice.
Boosted were using a bit expensive battery. It's no wonder they're expensive.
It is very outdated battery tech that's why they went out of business. Stopped innovating
Their batteries are not why they went out of buisiness. They went under when they branched out . Do you remember the mini and the scooter. Big branches make heavy limbs
I love freaking batteries to 🤙🤙😀
Cool technology What I would’ve given to have this technology as a teenager ...
Hell ya. Baby#
You definitely should build batteries and sell them!!!
26650 perfect for making a 12v battery
Sure why not. They could be good for stuff like diy solar system, in fact i may build one soon with surplus 26650 batteries i have.
good info, but end the video already!
You lost me at " Where is my weighing thing" You need a script.
Lol yup.
You are talking too much and too unnecessary
Too much of redundancy and superficial information.
Some of your stuff is really informative and intelligent! Then you make videos like this one and it's just sad. Your shop or ur garage looks to be disheveled. I mean how hard is it to have a scale handy when you're going to be teaching people about battery's you know you're going to need to weigh The Cells to compare them and then you're so redundant you spend 12 minutes saying the same thing over and over again come on bro your game is better than that.... for example you didn't mention anything about the internal resistance of the cells which is one of the most important things when it comes to building a balanced battery pack. And your nominal battery power and your actual battery power are two different things. I'm in no way trying to be rude or mean my brother... but in my 45 years I've learned that you're true true Brothers will tell you when your game is slipping and failing below the Excellence you're capable of to help you better yourself. God bless you and keep you safe....
Well I try to make it easy for regular people to understand, not confuse them with every technical detail. Please understand not everyone has a background in electronics. It is hard to teach. ;)
@@dr.eskateboard3381 certainly you can't please them all. Still a great video as i haven't been up to date since my 10S4P with LG HG2 builds.
Who the fuck care if his shop is disheveled? Weird flex but ok
You rabbit on too much about nothing !!!
odd accent
i can't understand coz what you are saying 😂