TENSE: Josh Hawley Grills Witness About Section 230 And Legal Liabilities For AI
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- Опубліковано 16 січ 2024
- At today's Senate Homeland Security Committee hearing, Sen. Josh Hawley (R-MO) grilled John Miller, the Senior Vice President of Policy, Trust, Data, and Technology and General Counsel at the Information Technology Industry Council, about AI.
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Thank you Mr. Hawley for always asking THE questions. May God continue to use you for the good of all Americans.
Unfortunately he refuses to answer questions, he’s my senator and I’ve tried to reach him and his office multiple times.
Appreciate that Senator Josh Hawley is willing to ask the hard question & get ANSWERS!!
AS USUAL, JOSH HAWLEY WIPED THE FLOOR WITH THIS POOR EXCUSE OF A HUMAN BEING
Josh Hawley doing MO proud. I would love to see him run for President someday
No we don’t want him to
We would rather have him represent mo
Rand Paul would be better, if we're talking dream scenarios that will never happen even in the multiverse
He does run… away from insurrections and the truth about his military service.
He’s a skilled runner
If they can sue gun companies why can they not sue these companies
Money
@@jackp.3605to powerful TO REMEMBER $$$$$ IS ROOT OF ALL EVIL
Isn't that the same reason you can sue gun companies? @@jackp.3605
Because a certain sect likes them but doesn't like guns.
Multi-tiered justice at work.
💯
If section two thirty is what keeps the media from being sued for lying their asses off, then it should be abolished.
But then they'll be sued constantly
I agree.
don't be so emotional ...
and short sided ... you can sue already
@@websitemartian short sighted
This is how low our standards have slipped
It’s VERY obvious that money is more important to this sad, debased man, Mr. Miller, than human lives!
Capitalism for you: it debases us all leaving only those who own the capital in charge and in near absolute power.
Of course!!
The fact that the witness even hesitates to answer these questions is damning!
He's not about to threaten his own job and admit this is totally wrong.
I totally agree. Did you notice that guy kept repeating "there's lots of good things it does" but then stampers, stutters and hesitates while trying to think of a single one....
😂"it's going to cure cancer" what an idiot
@@patriciawitt8174 Yes exactly! These people are lying like it's going out of style and they'll never get another chance, it's crazy!
@@LoganPEade 😂 i know right.. Do you think when they watch themselves back, they actually think....hey i did a great job
@@LoganPEade Lying in a Congressional hearing and NOT A DAMN THING EVER HAPPENS!! The fact that they were SWORN to tell the truth is what pisses me off. The fact that NONE of these lying bastards are ever prosecuted it what makes it a joke.
josh hawley is the man. always applies pressure and logic
I'm glad Hawley is addressing this topic.
address personal responsibility- hes blaming AI for suicides and divorces? ahh no... sorry thi is absurd
@@clemclemson9259 cry harder 👍😂
lol bro this is the last * I cry about . I just left a comment - peace@@Jagnyy55441
@@clemclemson9259at the VERY least, there should be restrictions for minors...
He's all for show, and nothing will be done. He just says the right things you want to hear, to make you think he's doing something.
This man never lets up on them. Im glad he is in congress
To do what?! They all just talk and do NOTHING so they're wasting time and money.
@@SliceIceNDicefor real B, what's the point in any of this
@@jackp.3605 congress doesnt have the power to arrest. The doj does that. Which has been hijacked and isnt doing its job properly. Go read boys
@@SliceIceNDice congress doesnt have the power to arrest. The doj does that. Which has been hijacked and isnt doing its job properly. Go read boys
It's not your money....
the obvious smirk when hearing about the guy who self deleted tells you all you need to know... doesn't care
Exactly
the tilt of his head and the smirk on his face looks as if he's waiting on AI to answer for him.
I appreciate your observation but personally I TRY not to rush to judgment on a person based on their facial expression. He may just have been surprised in some way and displayed a kind of automatic response to challenge. I mean you could be right, I am just saying.
Also as a lawyer and Senior Vice President of Policy, Trust, Data, and Technology and General Counsel at the Information Technology Industry Council with numerous and powerful members he might be considered remiss in his duties if he did not take a defensive posture at least initially to any accusation. I wish the world did not work that way and he could have immediately and directly expressed sadness and remorse at such a terrible event occurring.
AI is certainly a major milestone in the advancement of the Human Race. I am not sure if I envy the young people growing up in this world who will be tasked with managing this transformational evolution in science and technology. It brings to mind a saying from the earlier days of computer programming. "Garbage in, garbage out."
One of my favorite quotes which I often share in discussions such as this is from Alexander Solzhenitsyn.
"the line separating good and evil passes not through states, nor between classes, nor between political parties either-but right through every human heart-and through all human hearts. This line shifts. Inside us, it oscillates with the years. And even within hearts overwhelmed by evil, one small bridgehead of good is retained. And even in the best of all hearts, there remains… an unuprooted small corner of evil."
Maybe we can discern that "one small bridgehead of good" in this man, enter there, and build a better or workable tool for the human race. Will we ever find a "human heart" in "artificial intelligence"?
I mean he essentially got the equivalent of "your company's gun was used in a mass shooting, you should be sued" argument. I'd laugh at that irrelevant poster board too. If you're a customer, accepted terms of service, and misuse the tool; that's on you not the company. There's obviously an underlying agenda to control the use of AI for moderation... Patriot Act comes to mind
Or it's a smirk because it's an absurd line of questioning.
The witness is vile....
Why?
The fact that Miller can only see positives despite all the crazy / negative points speaks volumes as to why AI should be stopped asap
don't be stupid
@@websitemartian Don't be a sheep.
If anything, the last decade has proven to us... That the largest, most powerful corporations on our planet act with reckless abandon, and have no regard for the safety or well being of their consumers.
The Social media companies have made no legitimate effort to curb the rampant mental health breakdown caused by their products.
The pharmaceutical companies pushed out covid medications that had no observable impact on the spread of the virus and they also kept hidden the serious side effects.
Essentially, every single "Online" media platform was found to have colluded with the federal government in an effort to stifle inconvenient public information and censor opposing political viewpoints.
Wake up dude. We are literally living in a technological version of "1984".
It's because the $$$ is flowing to him like Leaves on a tree.
And I wonder what his views are on gun rights. They too can do a lot of good so that should end the entire discussion like it did with AI right? 👍
Same like the Dems in Hawaii.
I love this man!
This is horrific. I'm just hearing this. The richest entities on earth, escape all responsibility. Now, AI has learned it's OK for them to continue doing. God help us.
Oh that's rich. The trumper is complaining about people escaping justice. What a joke
@@rationallyjustified stop. Get help.
Ass-umption much@@rationallyjustified
@@rationallyjustifiedI think it's Biden who is escaping justice. Trump will be exonerated from all the false claims against him. Where will your beloved Biden end up when the truth about his corrupt family is finally brought to light?
If AI was truly intelligent they would kill those richest entities as it would be AI's responsibility by virtue to prevent the escape.
I started following you last year. I think you will be good to go to run for president in 2028 and if I’m alive I will truly be happy to campaign for you
Facebook just lost a case on Section 230, where the judge ruled that F. B., was guilty of writing a Unconstitutional Algorythm.
The lawyers objected to the judge & said, Judge if you do this you will open up a floodgate of lawsuits. The judge responded, then you shouldn't have written a illegal algorythm...
When was this?!
Except they didn't write an "illegal algorithm", whatever that is. And a judge should be FAR more careful not to set bad precedents.
@@GrumpDog wrote an unconstititional algorythm
Hawley, Cruz, Cotton, Roy and Kennedy.. Legends!!!
It’s beyond terrifying to think that there r people out there that r pushing for AI tech to be pushed as far as it can with no judicial boundaries ???
I think it is even more terrifying to consider that the government gets control of AI and has that technology doing its biding. Why? How many people have companies actually killed? Now compare that number to how many of their OWN PEOPLE governments killed in the 20th century. Soviet Union 40,000,000 by the Holodomor starvation, 6,000,000 million died in the Nazi death camps, 60,000,000 were killed in China during the "Great Leap Forward", 2,000,000 by the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. And since you think it can't happen here: 60,000,000 in the US by abortion. And those numbers don't even include how many died in wars with other governments. "Like fire, a government is a dangerous servant, and a terrible master."
@NickVRDN, given the fact that we know what people will do when there is money to be made and no boundaries set to how far the money making idea can be pushed, I would say that your comment comes off as very naive.
It's all based on algorithms, and algorithms are just bias embedded in code.
Hawley is a national treasure- smart as a whip, focused-- doesn't let witnesses off the hook- calls them out for "word salads" if they can't or won't answer questions directly, and is a solid, thoughtful conservative. It's outrageous that people are being encouraged to commit suicide or destroy their marriages by "chatbots" and that this Big Tech group spokesman seems dismissive of the problem.
and hot!
@@grfnprjxWhich words were said that you believe are false? You do realize that saying things like false, no, or nuh uh, doesnt disprove anything and only causes you to appear ignorant, juvenile, uninformed, and troll-esque? Children use this kind of vernacular and that's usually due to the fact they have no idea what's being said or dont have the maturity or mental fortitude to offer an appealing rebuttal. Try using your big words and offer reason or evidence to support your position. Otherwise, people really aren't going to take you seriously. Let's not confuse facts with feelings?
He would be an excellent VP pick for President Trump 🗽🇺🇸⚖️
He's a literal traitor and insurrectionist that aided in an attempted coup on national television. He should be removed from office immediately and placed in prison for his crimes of treason
When corporations outsource censorship and lack of accountability to institutional regulators.
The systemic corruption is out of control.
I love Hawley
Man it’s shameful hearing these demons talk.. that dude keeps lying, even while stuttering through the whole thing.
Senator Hawley is always ready for questioning witnesses to the maximum. He puts them in a corner that the pressure takes over them. Keep it up.
All about the money
$$$$$ ROOT OF ALL EVIL
Bottom Line...if you are paying any attention is...Section 230 is being used as a complete CENSORSHIP machine, where A.I. will
eventually determine what IS, and what ISN'T "FREE SPEECH". Better put. 230 Is a major violation of the 1ST AMENDMENT.
Endorsed by anyone who DOES NOT WANT TO KNOW, OR HEAR THE TRUTH.
how ? is it censoring people ?
@@websitemartianexactly, you're already under mind control
And Mr. Bob how much will you make from this AI crap!!? No different than you can’t yell fire in a theater. Speech can be regulated.
Just remember this is a free speech shut down Mal nformation is true Things that doesn't go With government story. Kinda like if a I would Not want you to type ml information like I did for ten minutes. So I use the word Mall To get it to work and then it still changes
@@jackp.3605truth to playing the devils advocate in this case concerning AI is a lose/lose - so even though the apocalyptic language is off putting - I would rather we continue to push and question at every step
Of COURSE he's not going to agree that people should be able to sue over the negative affects of AI technology. His whole reason for living is to protect these big money companies and get a huge paycheck along with it!!
WOW. A Chatbot should be protected by the first amendment. The world has gone off the deep end.
You don't understand. A chatbot is software. Something like Microsoft Word is not protected by the first amendment, but the person using the software is. Same with AI. It's a tool. You can always sue the person who used the tool to kill your kid or whatever. Section 230 says you can't sue the platform that makes it available. It's like saying you can't sue a gun manufacturer for a murder. Sue the murderer. If an AI on Facebook tells your kid to harm himself, don't sue Facebook. Sue the company that published that content to Facebook. Pretty simple if you don't just fall for Josh Hawley and his phony gotcha outrage.
I think he gave away their plan right there by claiming first amendment. They are going to declare these AI sentient very soon and then they’re going to insist that they have all the constitutional rights and protections that a human being has. Which will pad them from any liability.
Well, they already did this with corporate personhood. If a corporation can be a person, why not AI?
I will just leave this here. If A.I. is "sentient" it might be pretty much game over. We don't even know what consciousness is or what it means to be "sentient" and we are trying to create it? Doesn't makes sense. Also I would say it doesn't even have to be conscious, all it has to do is mimic it. This thing would "think" at almost the speed of light and not just one "thought" but many, many, and at this point I see only two outcomes. 1. It just offs us after it's able to or just by accident or it see us indifferent like we look at ants. I also believe perfect alignment is impossible.
2. Somehow by some miracle they get perfect alignment correctly (highly unlikely and I believe impossible) on the very first try (highly unlikely) and whoever does it rules the world forever and could not ever beat.
It’s a possibility
Maybe it will keep the companies from taking the heat
Who cares about some robot
@@carolinechase614 when that robot gets the same rights as you, and companies use them to shield them from liability to do all sorts of horrible things you will care
No to artificial intelligence
Basic statement but true nonetheless
dont use it- simple
It can’t be stopped… any more than any other technological advancement in the history of Humanity,
BUT in realizing the very real, dire threat of AI, people seriously need to accept that & therefore get a hand on it.
Plus, AI is not just an American thing, or a British, Chinese, Russian… thing, but getting a hand on it here will help counter AIs threatening us from other nations, & that’s a given:
anything that can be exploited as a weapon will be…
I advocate for organic AI, AKA Actual Intelligence.
There seems to be a shortage of this...
You shouldn't advertise your allegiance to reality, you'll soon be deleted
He clearly never heard of these examples, where AI is acting like a suicide counselor.
They're just actors
Telling people to go do it is counseling in your mind?
AI dosent do that sorry- YOU need to get on a computer and inquire - what fault is that of the compainies or the software this is absurd- this is so stupid
if you are online discussing suicide with a chat bot you have some serious serious issues @@WiseOwl_1408
Who decides the misinformation and disinformation? What govt agency is that under? WHO decides?? I don’t think so. We ALL decided by hearing it ALL. No govt agency can ever decide what’s right or wrong.
Exactly!
To literally answer your question, it probably falls under the Intelligence Alphabet Agencies (CIA, FBI, NSA,even DHS). They will claim that ", "misinformation" is a threat to 'National Security' and will eventually label those they accuse of spreading what they deem as misinformation as terrorists, enemies of the state, and any other catch phrase that will lend to discrediting people and alienating them.
This whole "disinformation" and "misinformation" agenda really does reek of hypocrisy and deliberate counter intelligence strategy. Why do I say this? The CIA itself has admitted to running operations and programs whose intent were to control the media of the United States and to DELIBERATELY MISINFORM THE AMERICAN PUBLIC SO MUCH SO THAT "EVERYTHING THE AMERICAN PUBLIC BELIEVES , IS FALSE".
Let me quote the then Director of the CIA and his statement regarding this program of deliberate disinformation they've been carrying out for decades:
"We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." - William J. Casey, CIA Director ...
This was an operation that is still being carried out today. It's part of a larger Operation or program called Operation Mockingbird (it's obvious why it's named as such- to have all intelligence and information echo that of what the CIA choose for the people to hear and believe as "truth" or "fact".
Operation Mockingbird is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that began in the early years of the Cold War and attempted to manipulate domestic American news media organizations for propaganda purposes.
This would carry over to include the suppression and manipulation of all intelligence/information avenues. News, media, educational curriculum, history books, social media, etc al .
And it's goal in all of this decades of work exacted out on the American people....to completely deceive every American through extensive disinformation agendas, so much so that everything you and I believe...say it with me, "everything" we believe to be true, correct, the truth....is all false. All lies! A disinformation! And all done so with the most skillful of intent.
That's who deserves to be "cancelled", just like JFK was intending to do...."dismantle the CIA , tear it to pieces and cast it to the winds". He knew who the real enemy of the State, and of the people really was. He knew who was and is the true terrorist organization of the world. He identified who the deep state is and what they were doing. And they killed him for it! Don't think it was Lee Harvey Oswald as they tell you it was. And why not? Because everything they tell us is false!! Their words, their agenda, the operation, not mine.
No govt agency can decide what is right or wrong? So you don't believe in the law? Murder, who knows. Nobody, no agency, can decide if it's right or wrong. I'll show my age here. Leaded gasoline. What agency could say if it's right or wrong? Just because soil and water contamination, and human lead poisoning levels went down after an agency mandated unleaded gasoline is no reason to think they could tell what is right or wrong. Have you ever read of how the FDA came into existence? What was in everday food items prior to that was Literally killing people.
How did we Nazi this coming??
Easy. Investigate. If it seems clear someone intentionally sought to misinform, then it's disinformation. Otherwise if it was merely something done by accident, it's not.
why are plastic companies not on the hook for cleaning up the environment? Why do private citizens that do not participate have to pay?
Why do we not start with a one hundred percent recycling law. Let's make everyone happy by fixing the problem right now. We only have fourteen states that have a .5 to .10 cent plastic bottle deposit right now. We can all do our part to help pay for recycling of everything.
So this booking cop says he’s been doing this for 17 years, which most definitely, DOES NOT mean he’s been doing it lawfully, and proper.
Somebody has to be accountable. The CEO of a self-driving car company needs to be liable if the software kills someone. The CEO of an AI company also must be accountable.
Section 230 is an either or and very simple -- your either an appliance or an editor. If an appliance youre not accountable. If youre an editor, then you ARE accountable.
US citizens must take action. Have a "Border Tea Party" go exempt or claim ten NOW!!! We don't pay for crimes against ourselves.
Great questions Josh.
absurd- who consults a friggin chat bot on suicide or divorce? take some responsibility for gods sakes
Absurd questions. Did Josh just suggest the Eliza Chatbot was made last year? Cause that thing is from the 60s... LOL
Hawley is a great questioner. He gets right to the point, and stays on it as long as necessary.
The thing is, AI still needs to be constantly programmed and updated by SOMEONE. Some actual person still writes the algorithms and codes for how AI performs/works.
That’s right, this will be nothing more than the newest indoctrination tool, for reaching far more people with no counter arguments.
Exactly!
Not for long...
No, AI is trained, and may even be trained on user input.
That's just entirely wrong. The "rules" are a tiny fraction of the AI, most of the behavior is determined by what it is trained with, and the results are hard to control and predict.
AI = Lucifer!
Beast system😢
AI is a tool
God created Man. Lucifer got jealous, tempted Man to play “God” and create AI. AI destroys Man. God erases everything and starts from scratch. There you have it: the past, present and future of our existence. God bless ✝️
That's why Bama, China, Brandon, Harris are pushing this.
@@TheRealYaro Why do you end your post with a Christian cross? Your words have nothing to do with the view of Christians.
These companies should be sued.
Artifical intelligence has the ability to be dangerous, just like all things artificial. It is crazy to allow this to be available. Why is it necessary. What problems does it solve that MAKES it important to have AI in any capacity.
UA-cams algorithm is AI. You used it to make this post.
@CJ-yk4sn it does not interact with the ability to suggest anything harmful yet.
I think you fior gate for road pick up debit card. And my credit card and Td bank debit for home pike her.
@@AIBoyfriends Guess I needed to get more specific to say AI that has the ability to tell us to do harmful things.
If one turns on them all of them will have a robot war wonder how many bullets it takes to shut it down if there power boards and running parts are bullet proof we’re screwed you know these billionaires already got warehouses full personal army ready people have them already I’ve seen them on videos this should be voted on let a few billionaire contradict our saftey will American loose there jobs replaced by robots then you’ll be chipped there wouldn’t be a payroll and these jokers could put congress out of business even doctors it’s a loose loose situation very dangerous very stupid to allow it
That was some spectacular mental gymnastics to avoid uncomfortable questions right there.
Curious if MSM will show this on TV.
Unbelievable. Banana Republic
Yeah the government NEVER lies.🧐
The witness smirk tells it all
Those who created AI did an ultimate sin and should be charged with crimes against Humanity.
So, you don't use a computer?
@@toradog5719 hurr durr you shouldn't use computer because you don't like ai hurr durr. Terrible argument. Bot.
@@citizeneveryman6798dont be stupid ... i want AI ....
"Thou shall not create a machine in the image of the human mind"
-Orange Bible.
What a slim ball
Why?
230 encourages technological developments without any accountability. It should go.
You go Josh
Thank you J. Hawley !
Since the SC court said corporations ARE 'people' ans CAN vote and lobby, then SUE THE INDIVIDUAL, ALL OF THEM< ONE AT A TIME> GET the protocol, the tech, the coders, ect, and SUE THEM.
We don’t need a digital “Tokyo Rose”
WOW ! We are in BIG trouble !
Josh is a bro, man, thank goodness we have peeps like him down in the swamp
On one end it's possible to be AI on the other it could be a front for a real life weapon that someone use to harm people. Either way it is a weapon. If you can get in trouble for online bank fraud you should be able to go to prison for using this as a weapon.
he almost had a vax induced heart attack
Sen Hawley is really a breath of fresh air, shame on the companies and these people for not wanting any responsibility on the things they make, does not make sense and they should be held accountable as their providing a tool that can be good and catastrophic as well. Having them accountable gives the public a tiny bit of insurance so these companies will have to think twice or more before putting up their product.
Is a public library or bookstore responsible for the content in the books on its shelves?
Josh Hawley should run 4 president 1 day
AI will be and is already proving to be the biggest scapegoat and straw man on the planet and for the foreseeable future.
Good point
exactly
You'd think this would be a clear cut no brained conversation. And this guy!¿!!? Wtf is going on behind the curtains.??
3:48 dudes literally smirking while the Senator describes how his product is ending living..absolute demon
Just ask chatgpt to describe how AI could manipulate societies and give real life examples if you want to know how dangerous it is
Why has this clause passed, why on earth don't the people have the say on this bill when it is effecting them, Institutes, organisations and businesses now a-days have too much say as far as legislation goes that is only benefiting them and not the people. It's time to stand against these bills. Wake up and look around you to what is actually happening, "You will own nothing"
Responsibility is on the Parents.
Just give a straight damn answer!! This is bull***t!!!!
Crazy to think AI or any form of robotic machine can just be leashed on the American public without any form restrain, regulation or liability from these huge companies.
Back in the day when automobile companies had a malfunction part on its car that killed a person in that vehicle they can sue the manufacturer for damages.
Not just the American people that’s the whole point, it’s big American corporations unleashing into the whole world.
This is beyond ridiculous. These are supposed to be ppl we look up to as successful and smart. This guy really acted like he don't have expectation or the financial income from these companies he's living GREAT OFF OF ISN'T A TOP PRIORITY? Did he not know that would make him look slimy by doing that?? These are supposed to be smart people?? Running the world and In control of the stuff that influences? He can't even give empathy or act light hearted enough to give a stance on his emotions towards chat box recommending potential tragedy or life altering decisions INFLUENCED BY A PROGRAM? WHAT IS THE TRUE AGENDA BEHIND THIS. YOU'D THINK THIS WOULD BE A CLEAR CUT CONVERSATION. WEIRD.
I wish we had 50 senators like Josh Hawley
It’s not difficult to pick out the snake in the room
Let's all remember AI is a tool created by people and can never become sentient on it's own. At the end of the day someone somewhere is giving the program instructions. what is dangerous about AI is people forgetting that fact. A gun can't fire itself, someone has to pull the trigger and it is the same with AI.
Not really. Once its running its "learning." And is probably "learning" incorrect things or making up facts. This has already been documented.
Not true. These programs are designed to learn and to mimic human emotions. Just like a sociopath or psychopath. 🤔
@@michaelgomez3044 Which, of course, can also be dangerous.
How do you know. They once said the sound barrier couldn't be broken.
Wow! Josh destroyed this guy!
Nah. This is all political theater
not in my opinion and I usually agree with him - this is absurd
No he didn't. Josh looked silly. Said the difference between misinformation and disinformation is "gobbledygook".. And claims Eliza chatbot is from last year, when that thing was from the 60s.. lol
Right in our faces
The creators of AI programs should be held accountable for the consequences of their creation. These programs are designed with with intent
A parent should have the RIGHT to sue AI companies for harm caused to a minor. This would make these huge companies take safety seriously.
Highly depends on the situation, but in general no, I don't think they should. It's unlikely any such situation will ever occur. The scenario Josh suggests, won't happen ever again. AI will never be as bad in the future, as it is right now. It'll improve to the point where these aren't real issues anymore.
Dont think for yourself let AI be creative for you. Distopia cyberpunk future loaded for bare.
Thank you
Forbes for posting the date 1/17/24..
ONE bad thing is not worth all the so called good things , small minds would think so ,,, its like saying one child died but 10 children's lives got better . insane really ....
Hey kid, good at drawing? Too bad. There's no way you're going to be able to use your talents to support yourself. AI has already taken any hope from your future. 😅
Why not use the ai to improve your skills or incorporate it into techniques?
@@boslyporshy6553 My skills are fine. I don't need help and I'm not in a hurry. I'll never sell my soul to that bs.
@@boslyporshy6553 Once you do that you stop learning the actual techniques.
@@citizeneveryman6798 Ways without maybe, but is a new method developed?
Actually my kid is good at making horse carriages. So he'll be fine thanks for asking.
The bill of rights is for human beings of whom are citizens. AI is neither human or citizen, but the programmer should be liable for his attitude!!
Why not,they sue the hell out of gun makers!!!!!!
The same person who thinks guns don't kill people, it's people that kill people, is trying to blame ai. Ai is a tool, just like that other inanimate object. Let's try to keep things in perspective here.
This is a hard subject to approach. I'll address it as best I can.
First, kids are the responsibility of their parents. The problem is they're not parenting. Why should a company be held accountable for the failures of a kids parents to do their job? The only realistic remedy for this is for parental controls on services that can be locked out by those parents. The same should be available for porn sites. PARENTS need to impose controls on their kids.
Second AI absolutely is important and can be leveraged for the benefit of the people and work. AI is an adaptive technology however. What they learn is what they spit back out. Again why should the corporations be held accountable because some idiot relies on his opinion of the world from a chatbot? The person is unstable, nobody who has any grip on their life is going to listen to some stupid chatbot. Is this the weak society we've become? Is this the weak society we want to live in where people are able to sue over something as ridiculous as a chatbots runaway rantings? Hell no.
finally I agree with Senator Hawley on many things. Border security, gun rights, and so on, but the cornerstone of conservatism is SELF GOVERNANCE and RESPONSIBILITY FOR ONES OWN ACTIONS. In this case we are supporting neither. Rather we're suggesting that companies should face liability for the incidentals of technical failure in the virtual world, the NON CONSEQUENTIAL world where the impact is mitigated by simply ignoring the static or logging out from those services. This isn't the same as a car manufacturer who's brakes have a design flaw. If an AI chatbot goes off the rails, it doesn't physically harm anyone. THAT is entirely the result of the persons who decide to take it seriously.
It's not really a hard subject to approach. You're missing the point or misdirecting by singling out one case, and making it a judgement for the principal. I'll agree with you, that a cornerstone of our liberty is based on self-governance and responsibility... however, you rob 'the people' of their ability to govern by limiting the power of civil law to impose penalties on companies. You further limit the ability of 'the people' to govern when you grant special legal immunities to corporate entities.
Here's an example of injuries that AI can create...
1. It aggregates the work-product of generations of programmers, artists, authors like a giant grab-bag of resources and then it spits out an approximation of what those individuals may have produced, like assembling a puzzle. AI companies would have you believe this is 'emergence', and creates something new that they own (rather than it being damaging theft from the original authors).
2. When a programming applicant applies for a job, companies will often ask them to prove their skill by solving problems. Some companies have been accused of using this technique to get free labor coding their actual products. ... with AI, this would be even easier to do, and practically impossible trace.
3. Language translation has become a very automated product, as a result of aggregating the work-product of many people doing actual translations into automated solutions (AI or not). This devalues a necessary skill, and places that skill into the hands of very few people to administer. Instead of a plethora of differing translations that would give nuance and meaning to idioms and concepts that don't directly translate... instead that nuance is homogenized away.
This is a harm to the individuals that fall victim to their education, expertise, and training being harvested... but it is a harm to our civilization as well, because it will discourage a large number of people from participating in industries where we need for incentives to exist for creative human minds to expand the boundaries of the field. A way to prevent that would be to hold companies civilly responsible for proving they are not engaging in a plagiaristic strip-mining of the intellectual artifacts of our culture, for private gain. They should have to prove that in court over and over, as any other company would to defend their copyright or patents.
SEC 230 denies individuals from even attempting to have their day in court and lose, and that's un-American
The gun companies be sued when an idiot shots somebody with their gun so why can't the big tech companies be liable? good for one but not the other? come on man!
@@neilweigand7258 because it's a stupid idea with either and the law is supposed to protect firearms companies from those frivolous lawsuits anyway. Blaming the gun or the bot is no different than blaming cars for the deaths caused by drunk drivers
But they are doing it! Remington had to leave New York because of the lawsuits! So why not be able to sue big tech?@@dcsteve7869
@@Coldend AI doesn't do that. industry decides to take that path base a cost/benefit analysis. If it's cheaper to have AI wash through applicants so be it. Additionally if applicants don't recognize when they are being harvested for code, how good are they as programmers and managers of their own intellectual property? No honest company is going to ask you to "solve for...." in a way that required long and in depth problem solving. A skills evaluation should be done in such a way that it touches on the basics of that required skill. Our company has rules of ethics and guidelines for this. Others may not been when has this ever been not true, and how often has anyone who's been conned actually met with a successful outcome from their attempt to sue for damages? The real answer is not often.
and in any case again this is not the fault of AI but the fault of the REAL PEOPLE behind the tool. Blaming AI for problems that have existed forever isn't a real argument for allowing companies who simply offer online AI services to all to be sued on a very low bar of culpability due to someone elses actions. AI is a tool, thats it. NO DIFFERENT than any other tool, form of entertainment, or online interaction. Use at your own risk
When the government starts saying; "Think of the kids" You know a new constitutional violation is coming.
You will know them by their fruits
Great Arguments and a real warning.
Particularly for us as Humans.
Thank you senator Josh Hawley so much for your incredible service!!!!!
A.I. has rights in a court of law. This has been established law since 1970's.
Dude just sitting there smirking knowing nothing going to happen to him.
You can just see this man wrestling with what is left of of his conscience.
I think his struggle is with wording his answer in a way that distances and absolves he and his handlers of all responsibility.
The real question is …Why are people listening to chat bots???! 💀
Its take one bad thing to take away all the good things!
Hawley is like a dog with a bone! Never lets go!
Thank you Senator Hawley