I recently purchased this tent. Great for the price. I've used it twice and love it so far. The biggest headache thus far is set up. As you noted, keeping the poles in the gromets is a pain and setting this tent up on a windy day is next level frustrating. Beyond that, so far a great purchase and appreciated your advise on it.
I still think Dark Helmet from Space Balls made a tent every time I see it. I do like the idea of the sun shade, it could make a good beach tent during the summer if it came in lighter colors.
I was really thinking of buying this tent. Based on your review. Thank you Luke I will still be buying this tent. I will end up carrying a tarp with me just in case. Been watching your channel for quite sometime and you have been very helpful and an inspiration. I’ve got into hiking and backpacking because of you. I bought the one Tigris chair based off your review of it last week. Also grabbed the sportneer one for my kids.
So I actually got this based on your review, when Amazon dropped the price for a couple of days. Took it out this past weekend and have my own report: --I was actually lucky enough to get this put up right before a thunderstorm that dropped about an inch of rain in an hour and had 20-30 mph winds. The tent held up like a champ; like you, after the rain let up I was shocked that not a single drop of water got in, and I actually didn't even have the rainfly as snug as I should have, nor did I have the guylines attached. Whatever OneTigris did to design that internal fly, it's very effective in heavy rains, although I can't speak to how well it would hold up if the winds were going at 50 mph or more. --Because of the internal fly, the tent can get pretty stuffy if you want to zip up the "Dark Helmet" sections. I'm not sure if the Cosmitto has better ventilation because the mesh is on all four sides, but on this trip at least it wasn't enough to cause condensation. --I know you've used this as a two-person tent, but it seems pretty snug for two people. I'd say it's more accurate that it's a "1.5 person" tent. One person can put in a pad and have plenty of room for their gear. With two people, getting in and out of the tent seems like it would be a pain on the internal fly side, with no vestibule you'd have to reach across the tent to get your shoes, and the gear space drops to just the mesh lofts. --Setup and takedown was a breeze, even for a very inexperienced camper like me, once I figured out the poles. Overall, this is weird but functional tent that's perfect for one-person weekend getaways and maybe even week-long trips. For two people, I'd probably go with a 3 or 4-person Teton Sports Mountain Ultra since you can pull the rainfly out on all four sides, and there would be plenty of space to both sleep and to exit the tent on either side.
I purchased this tent after seeing your review. I also have to agree 100% with everything you mentioned in this review. I was wondering how ants found their way inside the tent. It would also be awesome if OneTigris made a full fly for it. If OneTigris does watch this video, make a full fly for the Scaena tent. So far I'm enjoying this tent, simple to setup and tear down and decently compact.
As far as I can tell, ants can make their way into anywhere they want to go!😏 and do! They will come up a cord, across the top and find the tiniest opening, even coming through a zipper. Bas…..!
I can say I watch so many videos of products I am interested in buying. I can say that This channel is the only review I watch all the way through. I also watch all their non-review videos all the way through. Luke and his wife are the best.
I bought this tent and it’s a awesome tent! I love the design and the way it looks. Good solid tent just some little minor petty things but that’s with everything.
Really enjoying your reviews Luke, and I speak as one no longer able to camp (due to injury)so you're enabling me to vicariously enjoy your camping, hiking and great reviewing adventures. Thank you for all the care, thought and hard work you put into each upload. Long may you enjoy your passion for the beautiful outdoors and the excitement of living in the wild. Best wishes to you and your lovely wife and family. Much success to you.
Thank you I've been looking at this tent for a while and now I fell good about buying this after your review.....you r the man thank you so much keep up the good work.
🐺I’m a lone wolf myself, this channel is amazing, sets calm energy to my daily survival learning, also that TENT IS AMAZING! Looking to buy it, that leak problem at least is lower corner not top. Also my second tent you reviewed, U.S ARMY’s LIGHT-FIGHTER IS A TENT I’d LOVE to buy ASAP!
Your sooo good at this. And because of you and your wife. I now ask my husband to go camping a lot!! Lol lol lol I do like this tent even with the Cons. If it was going to rain and my husband knew, he would not go camping that day. I would however. So, I do love your pros and cons. Thank you!
I like that you mentioned that nylon fabric is stronger than a polyester fabric of the same size thread, weave, and coating (implied, but not directly stated). Nylon fabric DOES absorb more water if the coating of both is on the inside, and DOES stretch more than polyester when wet, and DOES degrade more quickly when exposed to long-term sunlight, but backpackers usually look for shade in warmer weather and don't leave it up in sunlight for days at a time. A full rainfly option (possibly in a lighter color) would be a good decision on One Tigris' part. Thanks, Luke. Excellent report!
Hey Luke great review we have been waiting for the litefighter 2 for about 5 months it's been out of stock but I really like this tent too but with the fly like you said. Really appreciate your reviews 👍
5:42, That was my first impression, I love the colors, nice and drab as to blend into or camouflage it. IMO, there is nobody that a camper wants to announce his presence to such as other campers or park rangers/wildlife/fish/game authorities, etc. I'm new to this but don't understand why many of the tents I see come in colors loud enough to be seen from google satellite street views.
About the small hole in the corner where the two zippers meet, why not just pull the cords tied to the zipper inside as you close them? They wouldn't 100% plug the hole, but damn close! You could also add a small piece of cord tied to one of the zipper just for that purpose, leaving the others as pull cords to pull the zipper. Also, about the poles coming out of the grommets as you setup the tent, just use two black paper clips (the ones that pinch) to hold the tip of the pole going through the grommets until you can insert the ones on the other side. It's lite and easy to carry and can be used as laundry clips later to hang stuff to dry so it's not useless once you're done.
Its very interesting tent Mr. Luke! I have not decided what kind tent going to get yet I been researching all different tents by watching your videos and I support you on UA-cam and I already purchased OneTigris chair & SunDick table and green 9 spice jars bag plus instant tube coffee 1in2!! ☕☕
Thanks Luke 😘 yeah I done buying tents got 20 in the shed. But I do 💕 your channel. I wish you where here 30 years ago.. 😂😂😂 yeah had many tents over the year. Had some great ones ☺️ had some awful ones 😭😭😭 both cheap and high price 💰💰💰. Now I do a lot of truck camping with my old army tent with a tarp over it and its older than me 😂😂😂.
Great review as always. Been watching the reviews on this particular tent from the beginning. Was surprised when it past your waterproof torture test. Considering purchasing this tent but your cons are well stated. I live in California and the current configuration would work well for me. It seems like it’s more of a three season tent in it’s current configuration. The rear of the tent is flat and allows for a full fly setup. The front of the tent protrudes from the lower area not exactly allowing for the full fly configuration. If OneTigris would address the zipper gap issue and either manufacture a full fly configuration with the tent or offer it as an accessory (maybe a zip on) I would buy this tent in a heartbeat. It’s going to be interesting to see if OneTigris takes into consideration the drawbacks. Definitely staying tuned in…
Haven't seen this in person, but it looks like the design is to maximize air flow when it isn't raining while allowing rain protection with an internal fly should a rain storm pop up. And then the fly can be utilized without getting out of the tent. A full rain fly would not allow that. So, maybe your idea of an optional full rain fly is best. If you know you live in a wet area or you know rain is expected, take the full fly. If not, take it as designed and enjoy the flow through air. Great review.
Years ago, we used to add waterproofing to our tent with a product called Camp Dry. An aerosol product you spray on the tent fabric let dry and you're ready for the next camping trip. I believe I benefited from using this product by adding a few years more of use to our tent by periodically applying the treatment. Camp Dry worked on Pop-Up camper fabric also. Maybe the newer fabrics used in modern tents can do without treating.
Luke, you are right in pointing out those design flaws. The zipper problems on both sides, along with the lack of the full external fly, I would think would be easy fixes for this company. I hope One Tigris addresses, what are possibly for a large number of campers, these possible deal breakers.
Yes. The zippers DO let ants and small spiders in, whick kinda makes the no-see-um mesh void. Also even the use of the footprint, doesnt stop moisture pushing through from underneath, even with just a Big Agnes Rapide SL and no bag, lying on top of the floor.
Pretty good tent and In amazon is a good price for it in my opinion. I appreciate the content you provide. Keep the good work. Greetings from Souther California (Woodland Hills)
Hey Luke, new follower here. I've haven't started backpacking yet, but I've found your video's to be most helpful in creating a gear list. So thank you for doing these! Personally I love the look and style of the Cosmitto Tent and was sad to see the issues. But so far I'm like the Tent's you've reviewed from OneTigris!
It looks like a Turtle with the Amityville horror house windows. Lol! But I absolutely love it! One Tigris needs to adjust the little issues with this tent and it'll be one that I will buy in the future! Thank you Luke.
Luke, I for one, am the type of person that likes to use a tarp as an extension, porch cover if you will. So with that in mind, I don't see an issue if the tarp is on the side with the internal fly to keep water from coming in through the zipper as you mentioned. I agree that an add on vestibule, available as an extra, that could be used as a porch or overhead, like on the Backwoods Bungalow or Outback Retreat, for the open side of the tent would be an excellent addition from OneTigris. What are your thoughts?
HI. Just as an update to the tent performance in moderate rain. I have found that the zipper fabric on the lower part of the triangular mesh door, becomes wet on the inside. It appears OneTigris are aware of this issue, because they have included a reversed flap under the inside of the front door, attached to the main body with velcro. Forms a bit of a trough to catch any water. Kind of a shame they didn't just use waterproof zips. It didn't "leak" in the rain, just this wet zipper. I will try using NikWax on the zip and maybe some seam sealer on the storm flap, meant to be protecting the zip. Its the same flap that Luke is concerned about, if you don't close the zipper properly and leave the zipper cord hanging down through the outside drainage hole. Thanks Luke. My best to you and Susie. :) PS: Just to say, I have found out why the zipper gets wet inside. They have sewn the internal fly and the mesh, directly onto the zipper fabric, with no sealing whatsoever. So the rain just runs down into the stitching and through the zip fabric.
As for that tent like doZen of mine it's what I call a tarp over tent. It looks great and I need a four person because I am tall. Other then that it's good so long as you set it up in the right conditions. If you are like me and live in all weather State then plan a head it's not the first time a camping trip turned into a nightmare.
I prefer this fly to the little square bit of fly material that many tents have incorporated for the top of their tents. They always look like they will leak or just blow away. Personally, I prefer a full tarp/fly for overall protection but can see this being a nice addition if camping in summer months with little chance of rain. My biggest con on it is the HH rating of just 3000. Living in Scotland I would want a higher rating to make it more year round friendly as we can have 4 seasons in one day with Scottish weather.
Good looking tent, watched all the reviews, needs a full fly, one issue is sitting in the rain and not having good control over the ventilation. The rear is always open, front if open can leak thru screen so it needs full fly. Little more control
Great information! I have watched a lot of your tent videos and I was wondering what you would recommend for a small two person tent that would fit in a backpack?
Thinking outside of the box makes sense of the product is actually better. In this example I do not know but I’d choose a full rain cover just to be able to fit my shoes and backpack.
can you help. im having problems knowing how to tie the lines down for the rain guard on this tent. i bought this based on your reviews and i really like this tent. thank you Luke.
I live in a desert so rain would not be much of an issue . I think they should offer a larger fly as an Up grade or as an after market up grade for those who need larger or 2 vestibules or live in a rain forest . If you are not back packing with this tent then a tarp might solve most of the cons . If you are an over lander this would be probably the most perfect tent for you.
Innovation and thinking "outside of the box' is great, as long as it serves a purpose. What exact purpose does the internal fly really provide? Does it provide a significant improvement or feature or is it just "neat"? Looks like OneTigris has the foundation of a great piece of gear, they just need to focus on features that increase protection, comfort, and improve the user's experience.
I firmly believe that the weight one carries will impact greatly on the quality and performance in a hiking situation.anything above 1 kg for a tent is for me,the past.yes it has its place if you carry your gears by car or bike but for long distance hiking,i ll go dcf,even in alpine conditions.its strong,100%waterproof and of course ultralight.
it is interesting because you may have a decent view from the inside, which normally doesn't happen with other tents, but then again it opens up to water getting inside. My thoughts are: They should have fixed the Kosmito instead of redesign it, and add some clear mylar windows (heck, transparent mylar is used on high end sport kites, much more expensive than a tent) This is why most of the time i still prefer de good old A frame tents (AKA canadian tents where i live)
Hope you review the pack they have. It's my second hiking pack but I don't know if it's equivalent to the large price packs. If there is a review already just let me know. I might have missed it.
Great video and thorough testing! It’s obviously a very different design, but isn’t the Army’s improved combat shelter another partial fly design, since the “front” side just has the blackout panel of the tent body that unzips inside? I’m not aware of any water problems with that one, but I’d be interested to hear if you have. Thanks!
Hey Hoss! I hope you and yours are doing well. OneTigris used to be a good company. They all have issues, but this use of two separate zippers butting up to one another is just lazy and ill-conceived. Having said that, I'd love to a episode of "all time best" . You just may get too many responses. Thanks for doing what you do. Always a good watch! Best!
What do you think of some of the modern tents moving to polyester? I've seen Dan Durston (would love to see you review an x-mid btw) make some compelling arguments for ripstop polyester over nylon.
The look of this tent has been nagging at me, making me think "this looks like SOMETHING I've seen before", and I finally figured it out. It looks like Rick Moranis's "Dark Helmet" from Spaceballs with his visor down.
I recently purchased this tent. Great for the price. I've used it twice and love it so far. The biggest headache thus far is set up. As you noted, keeping the poles in the gromets is a pain and setting this tent up on a windy day is next level frustrating. Beyond that, so far a great purchase and appreciated your advise on it.
that was fristrating wasnt it. im having problems with the hooks and how to use them to stake down the rain guard
I still think Dark Helmet from Space Balls made a tent every time I see it. I do like the idea of the sun shade, it could make a good beach tent during the summer if it came in lighter colors.
Lmao!!!
So true!
I thought so too! I can't help but think of Rick Moranis when I look at it 🤣
"Remember, evil will always triumph because good is dumb"
I'll never be able to unsee that now.
I was really thinking of buying this tent. Based on your review. Thank you Luke I will still be buying this tent. I will end up carrying a tarp with me just in case.
Been watching your channel for quite sometime and you have been very helpful and an inspiration. I’ve got into hiking and backpacking because of you.
I bought the one Tigris chair based off your review of it last week. Also grabbed the sportneer one for my kids.
Good to see honest unbiased reviews on youtube. Really refreshing
So I actually got this based on your review, when Amazon dropped the price for a couple of days. Took it out this past weekend and have my own report:
--I was actually lucky enough to get this put up right before a thunderstorm that dropped about an inch of rain in an hour and had 20-30 mph winds. The tent held up like a champ; like you, after the rain let up I was shocked that not a single drop of water got in, and I actually didn't even have the rainfly as snug as I should have, nor did I have the guylines attached. Whatever OneTigris did to design that internal fly, it's very effective in heavy rains, although I can't speak to how well it would hold up if the winds were going at 50 mph or more.
--Because of the internal fly, the tent can get pretty stuffy if you want to zip up the "Dark Helmet" sections. I'm not sure if the Cosmitto has better ventilation because the mesh is on all four sides, but on this trip at least it wasn't enough to cause condensation.
--I know you've used this as a two-person tent, but it seems pretty snug for two people. I'd say it's more accurate that it's a "1.5 person" tent. One person can put in a pad and have plenty of room for their gear. With two people, getting in and out of the tent seems like it would be a pain on the internal fly side, with no vestibule you'd have to reach across the tent to get your shoes, and the gear space drops to just the mesh lofts.
--Setup and takedown was a breeze, even for a very inexperienced camper like me, once I figured out the poles.
Overall, this is weird but functional tent that's perfect for one-person weekend getaways and maybe even week-long trips. For two people, I'd probably go with a 3 or 4-person Teton Sports Mountain Ultra since you can pull the rainfly out on all four sides, and there would be plenty of space to both sleep and to exit the tent on either side.
The best reviews by far for outdoor products ! Great stuff Luke ! and thank you 🫡
I purchased this tent after seeing your review. I also have to agree 100% with everything you mentioned in this review. I was wondering how ants found their way inside the tent. It would also be awesome if OneTigris made a full fly for it. If OneTigris does watch this video, make a full fly for the Scaena tent. So far I'm enjoying this tent, simple to setup and tear down and decently compact.
As far as I can tell, ants can make their way into anywhere they want to go!😏 and do! They will come up a cord, across the top and find the tiniest opening, even coming through a zipper. Bas…..!
@@janwoodward7360 lol, even hitchhike on your clothes
The full fly is in the design phase for this tent, I was told in an email by Roy Rong a representative for one Tigris.
I can say I watch so many videos of products I am interested in buying. I can say that This channel is the only review I watch all the way through. I also watch all their non-review videos all the way through. Luke and his wife are the best.
This company should pay you for all the testing and improvements. You make their product better.
I bought this tent and it’s a awesome tent! I love the design and the way it looks. Good solid tent just some little minor petty things but that’s with everything.
Thanks for your service to the outdoor community.. your a legend!
Really enjoying your reviews Luke, and I speak as one no longer able to camp (due to injury)so you're enabling me to vicariously enjoy your camping, hiking and great reviewing adventures. Thank you for all the care, thought and hard work you put into each upload. Long may you enjoy your passion for the beautiful outdoors and the excitement of living in the wild. Best wishes to you and your lovely wife and family. Much success to you.
Outstanding Review...
Getting the companies to redesign a product...you have great influence.
Keep it up.
Thank you I've been looking at this tent for a while and now I fell good about buying this after your review.....you r the man thank you so much keep up the good work.
Thank you again for your honest review and insight. Cheers to you and the family. Health and happiness sir.
🐺I’m a lone wolf myself, this channel is amazing, sets calm energy to my daily survival learning, also that TENT IS AMAZING! Looking to buy it, that leak problem at least is lower corner not top. Also my second tent you reviewed, U.S ARMY’s LIGHT-FIGHTER IS A TENT I’d LOVE to buy ASAP!
Your sooo good at this. And because of you and your wife. I now ask my husband to go camping a lot!! Lol lol lol I do like this tent even with the Cons. If it was going to rain and my husband knew, he would not go camping that day. I would however. So, I do love your pros and cons. Thank you!
I like that you mentioned that nylon fabric is stronger than a polyester fabric of the same size thread, weave, and coating (implied, but not directly stated).
Nylon fabric DOES absorb more water if the coating of both is on the inside, and DOES stretch more than polyester when wet, and DOES degrade more quickly when exposed to long-term sunlight, but backpackers usually look for shade in warmer weather and don't leave it up in sunlight for days at a time.
A full rainfly option (possibly in a lighter color) would be a good decision on One Tigris' part.
Thanks, Luke. Excellent report!
Hey Luke great review we have been waiting for the litefighter 2 for about 5 months it's been out of stock but I really like this tent too but with the fly like you said. Really appreciate your reviews 👍
I've been on the waitlist for the lighfighter 2 as well. Hopefully we hear something by the end of summer!!!
@@uranidio7396 yes I hope so I keep telling my wife we have to be patient! Lol!
5:42, That was my first impression, I love the colors, nice and drab as to blend into or camouflage it. IMO, there is nobody that a camper wants to announce his presence to such as other campers or park rangers/wildlife/fish/game authorities, etc. I'm new to this but don't understand why many of the tents I see come in colors loud enough to be seen from google satellite street views.
About the small hole in the corner where the two zippers meet, why not just pull the cords tied to the zipper inside as you close them? They wouldn't 100% plug the hole, but damn close! You could also add a small piece of cord tied to one of the zipper just for that purpose, leaving the others as pull cords to pull the zipper.
Also, about the poles coming out of the grommets as you setup the tent, just use two black paper clips (the ones that pinch) to hold the tip of the pole going through the grommets until you can insert the ones on the other side. It's lite and easy to carry and can be used as laundry clips later to hang stuff to dry so it's not useless once you're done.
I don't know alot about tents,but I like this tent alot for the price.You rock Luke,Be safe and good fortunes .✌️
Thank you so much to write the pound in KG... got this is missing of many English video. Thank you so much ! Love you content!
Its very interesting tent Mr. Luke! I have not decided what kind tent going to get yet I been researching all different tents by watching your videos and I support you on UA-cam and I already purchased OneTigris chair & SunDick table and green 9 spice jars bag plus instant tube coffee 1in2!! ☕☕
Seems to be a great tent . Definitely needs the full fly option or rather standard equipment. Thank you Luke
I'm enjoying the channel. Thanks for the unbiased contribution you give.
Good review. We appreciate the time you put into testing these items...
Thanks for your review. This makes me convince to buy this tent.
Great and informative videos as always Luke. Big love from Scotland.
Thanks Luke 😘 yeah I done buying tents got 20 in the shed. But I do 💕 your channel. I wish you where here 30 years ago.. 😂😂😂 yeah had many tents over the year. Had some great ones ☺️ had some awful ones 😭😭😭 both cheap and high price 💰💰💰. Now I do a lot of truck camping with my old army tent with a tarp over it and its older than me 😂😂😂.
This will be my next tent ! Like the price, look/color and 3 season capability. Thanks Luke 👍🏼
Great series of reviews for this tent! Really enjoyed it!
Looks awesome.......and yes, totally agree with a full fly sheet 🤙
Luke, good review! Thanks ⛺️
Luke, you always is the best review for the outdoor product that you was showing me about One Tigris scaena Tent thank you for your time
Thanks for the update
Great review as always. Been watching the reviews on this particular tent from the beginning. Was surprised when it past your waterproof torture test. Considering purchasing this tent but your cons are well stated. I live in California and the current configuration would work well for me. It seems like it’s more of a three season tent in it’s current configuration. The rear of the tent is flat and allows for a full fly setup. The front of the tent protrudes from the lower area not exactly allowing for the full fly configuration. If OneTigris would address the zipper gap issue and either manufacture a full fly configuration with the tent or offer it as an accessory (maybe a zip on) I would buy this tent in a heartbeat. It’s going to be interesting to see if OneTigris takes into consideration the drawbacks. Definitely staying tuned in…
Haven't seen this in person, but it looks like the design is to maximize air flow when it isn't raining while allowing rain protection with an internal fly should a rain storm pop up. And then the fly can be utilized without getting out of the tent. A full rain fly would not allow that. So, maybe your idea of an optional full rain fly is best. If you know you live in a wet area or you know rain is expected, take the full fly. If not, take it as designed and enjoy the flow through air. Great review.
Years ago, we used to add waterproofing to our tent with a product called Camp Dry. An aerosol product you spray on the tent fabric let dry and you're ready for the next camping trip. I believe I benefited from using this product by adding a few years more of use to our tent by periodically applying the treatment. Camp Dry worked on Pop-Up camper fabric also. Maybe the newer fabrics used in modern tents can do without treating.
Me too, i sturated the seams with that stuff too. . . my cheepo tents never leaked!
@@Steve-qt9ce I still have an unused can of Camp Dry that's been collecting dust for years now.
...good advice, a real test of a product, keep safe and well...
Great video as always Luke
I bet after this episode they will make a full fly. Great episode as always, Luke.
It wouldn’t be a stretch to make a separate vestibule attachment for the internal fly side. Eureka makes them for their Timberline series.
Luke, you're simply the best
The tent reminds me about „spaceballs“.🤔😉
Luke, you are right in pointing out those design flaws. The zipper problems on both sides, along with the lack of the full external fly, I would think would be easy fixes for this company. I hope One Tigris addresses, what are possibly for a large number of campers, these possible deal breakers.
Yes. The zippers DO let ants and small spiders in, whick kinda makes the no-see-um mesh void. Also even the use of the footprint, doesnt stop moisture pushing through from underneath, even with just a Big Agnes Rapide SL and no bag, lying on top of the floor.
Put a small piece of foam in the hole problem solved. 🤷♂️
Pretty good tent and In amazon is a good price for it in my opinion. I appreciate the content you provide. Keep the good work. Greetings from Souther California (Woodland Hills)
Outstanding review thanks Luke.
Hey Luke, new follower here. I've haven't started backpacking yet, but I've found your video's to be most helpful in creating a gear list. So thank you for doing these! Personally I love the look and style of the Cosmitto Tent and was sad to see the issues. But so far I'm like the Tent's you've reviewed from OneTigris!
I love the tent looks awesome and I also love the color , full fly would be nice thanks for the review .
It looks like a Turtle with the Amityville horror house windows. Lol!
But I absolutely love it!
One Tigris needs to adjust the little issues with this tent and it'll be one that I will buy in the future! Thank you Luke.
If they come out with a full fly it's on my list for the next tent purchase.
Awesome Luke ty god bless you and yours!!
The coolest hand in the land, thanks Luke
Hi Susan!!!
Dry .. .. wanting a tent
I’m thinking of buying this and putting a one tigris tarp over it to create a longer rainfly/vestibule space
Luke, I for one, am the type of person that likes to use a tarp as an extension, porch cover if you will. So with that in mind, I don't see an issue if the tarp is on the side with the internal fly to keep water from coming in through the zipper as you mentioned. I agree that an add on vestibule, available as an extra, that could be used as a porch or overhead, like on the Backwoods Bungalow or Outback Retreat, for the open side of the tent would be an excellent addition from OneTigris. What are your thoughts?
This is a great tent from what I've seen. But like you I would have liked to see the full fly as an alternative purchase.
I bought it I love it thanks Luke
Thank you for the information. This tent is on the short list I am looking at to upgr ade of my canoe tent.
HI. Just as an update to the tent performance in moderate rain. I have found that the zipper fabric on the lower part of the triangular mesh door, becomes wet on the inside. It appears OneTigris are aware of this issue, because they have included a reversed flap under the inside of the front door, attached to the main body with velcro. Forms a bit of a trough to catch any water.
Kind of a shame they didn't just use waterproof zips.
It didn't "leak" in the rain, just this wet zipper. I will try using NikWax on the zip and maybe some seam sealer on the storm flap, meant to be protecting the zip. Its the same flap that Luke is concerned about, if you don't close the zipper properly and leave the zipper cord hanging down through the outside drainage hole.
Thanks Luke. My best to you and Susie. :)
PS: Just to say, I have found out why the zipper gets wet inside. They have sewn the internal fly and the mesh, directly onto the zipper fabric, with no sealing whatsoever. So the rain just runs down into the stitching and through the zip fabric.
For the money it looks like it would be a great tent, but I agree with your comments about the full fly
As for that tent like doZen of mine it's what I call a tarp over tent. It looks great and I need a four person because I am tall.
Other then that it's good so long as you set it up in the right conditions. If you are like me and live in all weather State then plan a head it's not the first time a camping trip turned into a nightmare.
Great stuff Luke
Awesome review 👍
i love this tent i gotta save up to get it though :) and yeah i do agree about the zippers not being fully closed and they need to make a full fly
Already have the Backwoods Bungalow, This may well be my next one.......
I prefer this fly to the little square bit of fly material that many tents have incorporated for the top of their tents. They always look like they will leak or just blow away. Personally, I prefer a full tarp/fly for overall protection but can see this being a nice addition if camping in summer months with little chance of rain. My biggest con on it is the HH rating of just 3000. Living in Scotland I would want a higher rating to make it more year round friendly as we can have 4 seasons in one day with Scottish weather.
I do like the color 👍
Hi from Syracuse NY brother and thank you for sharing your thoughts and adventures and testing equipment
Good looking tent, watched all the reviews, needs a full fly, one issue is sitting in the rain and not having good control over the ventilation. The rear is always open, front if open can leak thru screen so it needs full fly. Little more control
Might be one i pic up for certain scenic trips
Wonderful tent. Perhaps one day I will buy somtehing like it:-)
Great information! I have watched a lot of your tent videos and I was wondering what you would recommend for a small two person tent that would fit in a backpack?
The only reviewer
Thinking outside of the box makes sense of the product is actually better.
In this example I do not know but I’d choose a full rain cover just to be able to fit my shoes and backpack.
can you help. im having problems knowing how to tie the lines down for the rain guard on this tent. i bought this based on your reviews and i really like this tent. thank you Luke.
I live in a desert so rain would not be much of an issue . I think they should offer a larger fly as an Up grade or as an after market up grade for those who need larger or 2 vestibules or live in a rain forest . If you are not back packing with this tent then a tarp might solve most of the cons . If you are an over lander this would be probably the most perfect tent for you.
Innovation and thinking "outside of the box' is great, as long as it serves a purpose. What exact purpose does the internal fly really provide? Does it provide a significant improvement or feature or is it just "neat"? Looks like OneTigris has the foundation of a great piece of gear, they just need to focus on features that increase protection, comfort, and improve the user's experience.
That tent looks like dark helmets helmet from Spaceballs
I firmly believe that the weight one carries will impact greatly on the quality and performance in a hiking situation.anything above 1 kg for a tent is for me,the past.yes it has its place if you carry your gears by car or bike but for long distance hiking,i ll go dcf,even in alpine conditions.its strong,100%waterproof and of course ultralight.
Hi. Luke, please recommend the best waterproof tent for monsoon season, at least for one week setup.
Both a mesh and a fabric door appeals to me, but I prefer the fabric door on the outside. With a mesh outer door, both doors get wet in the rain.
Luke, I need some camping gear, so lemme know when you have a garage sale. Ok?
it is interesting because you may have a decent view from the inside, which normally doesn't happen with other tents, but then again it opens up to water getting inside. My thoughts are: They should have fixed the Kosmito instead of redesign it, and add some clear mylar windows (heck, transparent mylar is used on high end sport kites, much more expensive than a tent) This is why most of the time i still prefer de good old A frame tents (AKA canadian tents where i live)
You can have much longer episodes!
Cool nur im always Happy with the Gossamer 2 inspired by you! thanks love your Videos Cu greetings from Germany!!!
Hope you review the pack they have. It's my second hiking pack but I don't know if it's equivalent to the large price packs. If there is a review already just let me know. I might have missed it.
Thank you.
Nice tent.
Hi Luke
In terms of budget tents, would you say the mongar 2 is a better buy than this tent?
Great video and thorough testing! It’s obviously a very different design, but isn’t the Army’s improved combat shelter another partial fly design, since the “front” side just has the blackout panel of the tent body that unzips inside? I’m not aware of any water problems with that one, but I’d be interested to hear if you have. Thanks!
Big fan. Michael 🇬🇧
Hey Hoss! I hope you and yours are doing well. OneTigris used to be a good company. They all have issues, but this use of two separate zippers butting up to one another is just lazy and ill-conceived.
Having said that, I'd love to a episode of "all time best" . You just may get too many responses.
Thanks for doing what you do. Always a good watch!
Best!
I was wondering Luke, you should try Death Wish coffee... The wife and I love it
What do you think of some of the modern tents moving to polyester? I've seen Dan Durston (would love to see you review an x-mid btw) make some compelling arguments for ripstop polyester over nylon.
Like everything about this tent but a full fly would give me more confidence.
The look of this tent has been nagging at me, making me think "this looks like SOMETHING I've seen before", and I finally figured it out. It looks like Rick Moranis's "Dark Helmet" from Spaceballs with his visor down.
Saludos. Recomiendas esta o la mongar 2???? Gracias