Thank you DW and these environmental activists, you are doing a great job risking your lifes to report illegal activities going on in the global timber market. May be these timber mafia failed to understand that the forest/trees are natural source of life or maybe they know but greed to make money by all means have beclouded their normal sense of reasoning. Once again I appreciate you guys for all the good work you are doing to protect a major source of human life's on earth 👍🙏❤️.
Killing for wood: The timber mafia’s brutal business | DW Documentary 1921pm 7.12.23 no i aint repeating myself for repetition's sake... i just want to emphasize you covered this in other topics relating to mismanagement of natural resources and nature per se re: drying out of danube and it's damming or diverting... ummmmmmm....
@@JJONNYREPP the elections are coming and they are reloading the problems which were not solved. Nobody did anything about and they are only repeating the matter.
it eventually will kill everything. yep. Oceans, Rain-forests, rivers, mining, wildlife loss, biodiversity loss and the ever large Elephant in the room population growth.
I have ONLY wooden furniture in my house, but...all of it has been bought secondhand in charity shops, of which we have a plethora in UK. Some specialise in furniture, and there are genuine style gems to be found. From pretty much every era you might be interested in. I have not been in Ikea for 20 years.
In the US we have Goodwill stores selling stuff donated to them...that likely would have been discarded/trashed. I buy all my clothes there. They have lots of good used furniture and other knick knacks at cheap prices. 👍
@@JusticeAlwayswe have that in the uk too mostly charity shops and odds and sodds but the odd charity shop for furniture including beds, people on low income can get vouchers from councils to help with the costs
Dear DW Team, I would like to commend you on your work. Your documentaries are a gold mine. Perhaps you can explain why they are so often taken off UA-cam after a short while? I've come across dozens of documentaries I had added to my playlists that have since been made private or deleted. Surely there can't be any copyright or YT guidelines strikes against an established media org like yourself, so what's going on and can you somehow bring back the dozens of documentaries that have been taken off? Thank you.
Hi, thanks for taking the time to comment and for your positive feedback. To answer your question: Some of our documentaries have been bought from other production companies and distributors and therefore have limited online rights. We take them down once those rights have expired. Best, The DW Documentary Team
I’m glad I see these sort of deep dives on this channel it’s just a shame that “media” tends not to have any of the real stories anymore! A big thank you to those who go out to actuallly make these stories
Here in the US people discard furniture that could be repaired to like new with replacement of a few screws. And there is casual talk about "build more housing" without consideration of where the materials to build all that housing is going to come from. Excess wood and other building materials are often taken to a landfill dump when many are reusable or recyclable. Speed of return on investment seems the only logic. Cambodia chainsaw massacre. too bad the government or conservation groups can't help the loggers find some other way of earning a living If they had a satellite phone the activists could call local police and say they have the leader of the illegal loggers
@@rmf9567 We also have industries operating on the purpose of recycling plastic, glass and metals. But even if those materials are picked up in a blue "recycle" barrel, it often ends up in a landfill because there's not enough profit in carrying through with recycling.
We have homes constantly built in the uk, in the last 5 years we’ve had multiple new mini villages where I am and another 4 planned for the next 5 years and there already selling homes that are on land where there is currently a hospital 😂 because there moving the hospital
@@Boo-pv4hn Over logging to "house" people who WERE housed in their country of origin. Being housed where, by virtue of the local climate require much higher environmental and economic cost. Plus the mowing down of rain forests. Plus pollution of waterways which are killing all life in an overfished ocean. Those who seek to solve Earth's environment problems by relocating the worlds population to new housing in Europe and North America are the worst bringers of total environmental collapse of all.
Bro, in Canada we stamp the end of the board, which is traceable. 90% of the time the EU is ahead of the word, but Canada is way far ahead in terms of tracking, based on my limited 7 years of experience within the industry as a lumber grader. There is very likely legislation, regulation, manipulation and funding abnormalities that have not been completely fleshed out, within the EU. It's good to see that awareness and calling out of exploitation on all fronts is growing.
EU countries that are at a similar level of development as Canada, are really strict with their domestic production in a similar manner. But while EU does have power over internal matters it's not to degree of an country. After all it's made of individual countries. And I guarantee North America has similar problem with imported wood products.
Absolutely, and I couldn't't agree more. The nuances tend to get in the weeds, but I definitely hear your point, where the similarities are concerned.@@mukkaar
Recorder (an independent organization of journalists from Romania)also made an documentary about the cuttings from the romanian forests somewhere in 2018 or 2019.
DW always tackling subjects and matters that are mostly overshadowed by many other issues, but affects more. Each time I learn something new. Thank you for an enriching and risky report. .
Thank you DW for this excellent video on illegal logging. Considering the desperate poverty of a lot of the actual loggers in the field, one could understand the potential violence coming from those loggers. One cannot, however, condone any violent behavior from the logging companies themselves. They are only private entities and don't own the land they take their wood from. That means that the corporate goons have zero authority to order anyone out of the forests they take their lumber from. In fact, considering that the activists are enforcing the law, one could argue that they do in fact have the authority to use force to prevent the loggers and their employers. Perhaps the activists need to meet force with equal or greater force against the logging companies, including the ability to make the corporate executives feel unsafe no matter where they hide and breed. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only language that criminals in high places understand. The public has the ultimate power to stop the trade in illegal logging. The public can do their homework and refuse to purchase products from companies that do business with illegal loggers. The public can force laws onto the books that mandate proper source documentation so the public can make informed choices.
Is hemp illegal in Romania? In America hemp/marijuana was made illegal in part because the timber industry didn't want the competition of sustainable hemp for making newspapers. Bring back hemp to help save the forests. It can surely be used for making paper and cardboard boxes. I wonder if it could be used to make toilet paper?
ikea is a bad idea for the forrest of europe..europe is not like asia and south americas..trees in europe needs tens of years before it grows..maybe 50 years or more..
I noticed that at the beginning you mentioned that eco-activists have received "leads" from the police. Well, I say that the eco-activists should have visited the perpetrators in jail after the police (well informed and equipped) did its job and caught them.
As a consumer, my wood comes from my girlfriend. Jokes aside, as a frequent visitor to the Carpathians, the extent of illigal logging is truly heartbreaking, more so in (pre-war) Ukraine than anywhere else. Romania is not far behind, I'm afraid.
this is so sad to me. when the last tree cut down in the world and there is no more oxygen left these peoples realize that time what they do in the fast ...
If places like ikea and so many other companies made better quality wood stuff then people would not have to gwt rid of stuff so fast and we would not need to cut down so many trees but its not in the companys intresd as its all about money the governments should take action like so many other things
@@omi685 there is no question about it. And i never doubted that. But then DW could have made a NEW episode. And show what has been done, or not done since that time. And when one searches for Plywood for - that store -, not one, and i repeat,not one article comes up that tells it. ( fair enough, though I was not sitting for hours on the computer, but got about the first 50 hits only) AND they call it not -particle board- which is apparently something better and more expensive than plywood...
DW I think you're looking in the wrong place I am pretty sure all that Lumber is turn into stove fuel the little wood pellets it's still going to Germany just in a different shape but most of it is being sold around Romania what they do is sell it to the main guy in the village that splits firewood everybody needs firewood especially poor people in Romania and they go through a lot I'm telling you DW you are looking in the wrong place when you're trying to investigate wood samples you need more wood samples like the ones that don't make sense because that's what criminals do they get rid of the evidence what better way is to just burn it.
Can governments encourage recycling of old furniture? Can home construction be of sturdy metals or better recycled plastics? Turn into pressed pulp. The trend is minimalism with synthetic materials. Air quality is important. Less dust, more built ins, which require wood. UN should enforce ceiminal environmental infraction with steep fines to both the country and corporation. Like someone said, it is illegal to buy or traffic stolen property. 💚🎄.
The actual reason for this charade is that EUDR Regulation entered into force in June this year and they want to promote the false image that Romanian forestry is similar to that of third world countries. Romania has o more close to nature forestry than all the western Europe countries, and that is the result of the hard work of foresters in the last 50 years. NGO's in Romania are financed from abroad and do not serve national interests.
That doesn’t change the fact that this type of logging has a devastating impact on the land, and it’s ability to produce food 😮 so this argument doesn’t make sense in the long term
@@DegreesOfThreeloughable. You believe that the others are wealthy and if they are why are they wealthier without being criminals? They are doing it because it is easier to be a thief and a criminal than to make efforts for something else.
The real Mafia is Sicilian; thus, there is no damned evidence whatsoever that they are involved in timber! So, tell the truth: the Mafia isn't involved in timber, beaver trapping, or calm harvesting, etc.!
@@johnnyblue4799 According to NASA, over the last two decades, the Earth has increased its green leaf area by a total of 5 percent. So I guess I'll believe the experts, rather than some bozo in the comment section.
Thank you DW and Johannes Musial for joining us in the wood and for exposing the critical situation in Romania
Thank you DW and these environmental activists, you are doing a great job risking your lifes to report illegal activities going on in the global timber market. May be these timber mafia failed to understand that the forest/trees are natural source of life or maybe they know but greed to make money by all means have beclouded their normal sense of reasoning.
Once again I appreciate you guys for all the good work you are doing to protect a major source of human life's on earth 👍🙏❤️.
It is a criminal market that buys blood wood
Well done DW Documentary you guys do a lot of risking and such for getting the truth out their, thank you so much for that.
Killing for wood: The timber mafia’s brutal business | DW Documentary 1921pm 7.12.23 no i aint repeating myself for repetition's sake... i just want to emphasize you covered this in other topics relating to mismanagement of natural resources and nature per se re: drying out of danube and it's damming or diverting... ummmmmmm....
@@JJONNYREPP I know!!
@@andrewreynolds912 i think you know..
@@JJONNYREPP the elections are coming and they are reloading the problems which were not solved. Nobody did anything about and they are only repeating the matter.
Greed is killing everything
it eventually will kill everything. yep. Oceans, Rain-forests, rivers, mining, wildlife loss, biodiversity loss and the ever large Elephant in the room population growth.
We are mad monkeys
Peoples consumption habits is killing everything..
Capitalism is one of them
We need to downscale our consumption and the production...
I have ONLY wooden furniture in my house, but...all of it has been bought secondhand in charity shops, of which we have a plethora in UK. Some specialise in furniture, and there are genuine style gems to be found. From pretty much every era you might be interested in. I have not been in Ikea for 20 years.
In the US we have Goodwill stores selling stuff donated to them...that likely would have been discarded/trashed. I buy all my clothes there. They have lots of good used furniture and other knick knacks at cheap prices.
👍
@@JusticeAlwayswe have that in the uk too mostly charity shops and odds and sodds but the odd charity shop for furniture including beds, people on low income can get vouchers from councils to help with the costs
Dear DW Team, I would like to commend you on your work. Your documentaries are a gold mine. Perhaps you can explain why they are so often taken off UA-cam after a short while? I've come across dozens of documentaries I had added to my playlists that have since been made private or deleted. Surely there can't be any copyright or YT guidelines strikes against an established media org like yourself, so what's going on and can you somehow bring back the dozens of documentaries that have been taken off?
Thank you.
Hi, thanks for taking the time to comment and for your positive feedback. To answer your question: Some of our documentaries have been bought from other production companies and distributors and therefore have limited online rights. We take them down once those rights have expired.
Best,
The DW Documentary Team
@@DWDocumentary Thank you for the clarification.
It is like that if you don't have your own platform
The Amazon is Also Under Huge Threat of being Destroyed for Gold Mining, and Tree Logging.
Coruption at the highest level.
Gabriel is a true angel.
We thank you for your holly words 🙂
Yeah...more like agentGREED
I’m glad I see these sort of deep dives on this channel it’s just a shame that “media” tends not to have any of the real stories anymore! A big thank you to those who go out to actuallly make these stories
Here in the US people discard furniture that could be repaired to like new with replacement of a few screws. And there is casual talk about "build more housing" without consideration of where the materials to build all that housing is going to come from.
Excess wood and other building materials are often taken to a landfill dump when many are reusable or recyclable. Speed of return on investment seems the only logic.
Cambodia chainsaw massacre. too bad the government or conservation groups can't help the loggers find some other way of earning a living
If they had a satellite phone the activists could call local police and say they have the leader of the illegal loggers
Here in the USA we have entire industries that recycle and reuse old wood..
@@rmf9567 We also have industries operating on the purpose of recycling plastic, glass and metals. But even if those materials are picked up in a blue "recycle" barrel, it often ends up in a landfill because there's not enough profit in carrying through with recycling.
@@samshepperrd touche
We have homes constantly built in the uk, in the last 5 years we’ve had multiple new mini villages where I am and another 4 planned for the next 5 years and there already selling homes that are on land where there is currently a hospital 😂 because there moving the hospital
@@Boo-pv4hn Over logging to "house" people who WERE housed in their country of origin. Being housed where, by virtue of the local climate require much higher environmental and economic cost. Plus the mowing down of rain forests. Plus pollution of waterways which are killing all life in an overfished ocean. Those who seek to solve Earth's environment problems by relocating the worlds population to new housing in Europe and North America are the worst bringers of total environmental collapse of all.
One of unique topic.
In this topic documentary very less available.
To make a nice documentary, thank you DW team.
Bro, in Canada we stamp the end of the board, which is traceable. 90% of the time the EU is ahead of the word, but Canada is way far ahead in terms of tracking, based on my limited 7 years of experience within the industry as a lumber grader. There is very likely legislation, regulation, manipulation and funding abnormalities that have not been completely fleshed out, within the EU. It's good to see that awareness and calling out of exploitation on all fronts is growing.
EU countries that are at a similar level of development as Canada, are really strict with their domestic production in a similar manner. But while EU does have power over internal matters it's not to degree of an country. After all it's made of individual countries.
And I guarantee North America has similar problem with imported wood products.
Absolutely, and I couldn't't agree more. The nuances tend to get in the weeds, but I definitely hear your point, where the similarities are concerned.@@mukkaar
DW, pls do one for Ghana too.
DW Documentary has done THREE documentaries on Ghana in the last year. How many more do you need? 🙄
@@TheStockwell on timber?
Excellent documentary DW. Enhorabuena!
lithuania and latvia are also losing forests because of piece of sh!t ikea
Recorder (an independent organization of journalists from Romania)also made an documentary about the cuttings from the romanian forests somewhere in 2018 or 2019.
Thank you.
DW always tackling subjects and matters that are mostly overshadowed by many other issues, but affects more. Each time I learn something new.
Thank you for an enriching and risky report.
.
Congratulations for the video!
had 20ha of my land cut down.
its just a corrupt cesspool planet...everything and every institution is dead.
Thank you DW for this excellent video on illegal logging.
Considering the desperate poverty of a lot of the actual loggers in the field, one could understand the potential violence coming from those loggers. One cannot, however, condone any violent behavior from the logging companies themselves. They are only private entities and don't own the land they take their wood from. That means that the corporate goons have zero authority to order anyone out of the forests they take their lumber from. In fact, considering that the activists are enforcing the law, one could argue that they do in fact have the authority to use force to prevent the loggers and their employers. Perhaps the activists need to meet force with equal or greater force against the logging companies, including the ability to make the corporate executives feel unsafe no matter where they hide and breed. Unfortunately, that seems to be the only language that criminals in high places understand. The public has the ultimate power to stop the trade in illegal logging. The public can do their homework and refuse to purchase products from companies that do business with illegal loggers. The public can force laws onto the books that mandate proper source documentation so the public can make informed choices.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
It seems that there is no state, no politicians and no state law enforcement
Is hemp illegal in Romania? In America hemp/marijuana was made illegal in part because the timber industry didn't want the competition of sustainable hemp for making newspapers. Bring back hemp to help save the forests. It can surely be used for making paper and cardboard boxes. I wonder if it could be used to make toilet paper?
ikea is a bad idea for the forrest of europe..europe is not like asia and south americas..trees in europe needs tens of years before it grows..maybe 50 years or more..
They helped fund the Stasi.
Figured.
I could be wrong but it seems to me the movie has been reloaded
Several years ago I've already seen something like this on DW channel
#metoo. I watched it a few years ago!!!
I noticed that at the beginning you mentioned that eco-activists have received "leads" from the police. Well, I say that the eco-activists should have visited the perpetrators in jail after the police (well informed and equipped) did its job and caught them.
Great video.
I will always trust DW Documentary Always very entertaining and informative
Disturbing and extremely sad…humanity is disgraceful
You will never be able to prove to them that they are killers or nature. It is so sad!
Do not buy from stores that buy illegal wood. This program identifies them.
dq should do one vid on this same topic about the jungles in laos.
As a consumer, my wood comes from my girlfriend.
Jokes aside, as a frequent visitor to the Carpathians, the extent of illigal logging is truly heartbreaking, more so in (pre-war) Ukraine than anywhere else. Romania is not far behind, I'm afraid.
Ex-employee of IKEA watching
It will literally cost you an arm for red rose wood.
this is so sad to me. when the last tree cut down in the world and there is no more oxygen left these peoples realize that time what they do in the fast ...
That's it... I'm starting a Video game Mafia.
Sad 😢
Nothing like Wood 💯
Wow. Illegal and violent things happening in Romania. I am really shocked.
If places like ikea and so many other companies made better quality wood stuff then people would not have to gwt rid of stuff so fast and we would not need to cut down so many trees but its not in the companys intresd as its all about money the governments should take action like so many other things
@DW also investigate illegal logging in South Sudan. The indigenous trees are becoming extinct.
Killing for wood. That's what she said.
Reminds me of Bruno Manser story I heard about while living in Malaysia.
Greed is eternal
Source of crime
Happens all over the world. Have to fight fire with fire 🔥
Al Shabaab into illegal logging in Somalia? What geopolitical radius are we talking about? Come on DW?
They are commminting a serious crime and sin.
Au ajuns ai nostri la stiri.
Din pacate nu pentru ceva bun...
Turkey cutting million of trees in northern iraq
This is a rerun.
WTF.
This has been going on for decades in the developing world.
Why is it only now that Europe has gotten its conscience?
Hypocrisy perhaps.
this *Documentation - is as old as the hills.
And DW just spliced the bits and pieces together...
The issue is still there, same as it was...
The denial won't help the society get out of the vicious circle of greed and corruption where there are no winners.
@@omi685 there is no question about it.
And i never doubted that.
But then DW could have made a NEW episode.
And show what has been done, or not done since that time.
And when one searches for Plywood for - that store -, not one, and i repeat,not one article comes up that tells it. ( fair enough, though I was not sitting for hours on the computer, but got about the first 50 hits only)
AND they call it not -particle board- which is apparently something better and more expensive than plywood...
You should get into this subject in Poland What Sovereign Poland Party was doing with forests in the last 8 years
Profit over everything smh
What to do against the Romanian government?
DW I think you're looking in the wrong place I am pretty sure all that Lumber is turn into stove fuel the little wood pellets it's still going to Germany just in a different shape but most of it is being sold around Romania what they do is sell it to the main guy in the village that splits firewood everybody needs firewood especially poor people in Romania and they go through a lot I'm telling you DW you are looking in the wrong place when you're trying to investigate wood samples you need more wood samples like the ones that don't make sense because that's what criminals do they get rid of the evidence what better way is to just burn it.
Can governments encourage recycling of old furniture? Can home construction be of sturdy metals or better recycled plastics? Turn into pressed pulp. The trend is minimalism with synthetic materials. Air quality is important. Less dust, more built ins, which require wood. UN should enforce ceiminal environmental infraction with steep fines to both the country and corporation. Like someone said, it is illegal to buy or traffic stolen property. 💚🎄.
The actual reason for this charade is that EUDR Regulation entered into force in June this year and they want to promote the false image that Romanian forestry is similar to that of third world countries. Romania has o more close to nature forestry than all the western Europe countries, and that is the result of the hard work of foresters in the last 50 years. NGO's in Romania are financed from abroad and do not serve national interests.
Just stop oil
if ur not boycotting ur also responsible
They're not doing it because they hate trees, they're doing it because they want to put food on the table.
That doesn’t change the fact that this type of logging has a devastating impact on the land, and it’s ability to produce food 😮 so this argument doesn’t make sense in the long term
@@denzelsw8732 The land is not as important as people.
Jeez you are ignorant
@@DegreesOfThreeloughable. You believe that the others are wealthy and if they are why are they wealthier without being criminals? They are doing it because it is easier to be a thief and a criminal than to make efforts for something else.
Consumption
U have no idea about the magnitude of stealing wood in romania.thieves hand in hand with the authorities;)
These as vaileurs times frescoop lewer coop tree found.
13:49
🤯😭
Mana sus cine e roman!
....
The real Mafia is Sicilian; thus, there is no damned evidence whatsoever that they are involved in timber! So, tell the truth: the Mafia isn't involved in timber, beaver trapping, or calm harvesting, etc.!
Just perusing the comments to see if I see an S word or a B word that rhymes with Pigfoot....
👍🏾
:O
Trees are replaceable. Get a real hobby.
Trees are necessary to sustain life, you big 🤡!!
Delusional, remember who you used to be, connected to everything
In USA we have 3 or 4 cuts on 1 piece Just Replant.😁😁😁
Not at this rate of deforestation.
@@johnnyblue4799 According to NASA, over the last two decades, the Earth has increased its green leaf area by a total of 5 percent. So I guess I'll believe the experts, rather than some bozo in the comment section.
Disturbing and extremely sad…humanity is disgraceful
Disturbing and extremely sad…humanity is disgraceful