The Sound Couple - Fun With the Sun Recordings!
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- The Sound Couple heads off to a familiar venue but it's the first time that we shared the venue and the band on our channel!
The day was very hot and sunny. We received a request from one of the band members to record as they supplied their own 3 camera shoot for the show as well. The sun proved to be a challenge as we worked through USB connection issues with the mixer that caused UC Surface to not reconnect which sent us down a bit of a rabbit hole in troubleshooting an ear mix.
We feature extended footage on sound check as well as demonstrating show mix in conjunction with post production mixing in Studio One!
Another fun family event that includes 180 degree coverage!! Appears to be the new norm!
The Sound Couple primarily use PreSonus gear featuring:
PreSonus UC Surface
PreSonus CDL12
PreSonus CDL18s
PreSonus 32R
PreSonus SW5E
PreSonus NSB Stageboxes
PreSonus AVB-D16
Please see our "About" for a more comprehensive list of gear we use.
Not sure why some are having issues with audio....we assure you that we posted the video with audio, so please check back! There must be some sort of glitch happening. Thanks!
There's audio for me, however its stuck to 360p😂
Ok!
So I think you just need to relaunch the app
@@georgew_xyz Same here the quality sucks and its a lot of what I'm watching now!!!
May be a codec issue -- audio is fine when I tried on PC/Chrome.
Great work team. Outdoor gigs for large crowds are always difficult, especially with unknown numbers or never-ending boundaries. Providing a system that is big enough vs what has been booked can be tricky. Being in the hot summer sun can be brutal. Our summer temps sit around 85~100 F; but got to 114 F in February 1991 - (Perth Australia), however snow has never been an issue. Hydrate, coverup, seek shade and apply sunscreen. Thanks again.
Well said!
As we see in video after video from The Sound Couple, professionalism trumps every frustrating problem that arises. Kudos to Bart for pushing through the difficulty in working in a super bright sunlit venue to solve the in-ear problems. An important lesson is that even with ample time and lots of planning, the technology-in this case UC Surface on an iPad-can offer a momentary challenge. This does not take away from the brilliant flexibility this type of mixing affords. But, it does mean that the sound technician has to allow plenty of time to set up, initialize, and troubleshoot each gig.
Thanks to Bart and Stacy for continuing to help those of us who watch these videos through multiple passes to keep learning from their years of experience in providing top-flight production for a variety of artists. I hope everyone who watches this video takes note of the number of mixes this show required. The kind of focus necessary to manage all this certainly requires the kind of dedication for which The Sound Couple is well known.
Hi Dean, once again, you are too kind, but your insights are uncanny that you are able to connect and link so many concepts and considerations within the content of a video. When you mentioned the number of mixes, it made me think about the fact that we do this from one mixer. Back in the analog days, our utopia was to have two separate consoles for FOH and monitors. I know some that still do this in the digital world as well, or with enough channels, maintain a group of channels for FOH and another for monitors. In a perfect world, I prefer that flexibility, but for the speed and trying to keep things simple, I have mastered theshared preamp! I couldn't imagine trying to manage how we work with two consoles. Part of it is that I am doing the job of two people as most of my time is on stage with the musicians during soundcheck....something to think about for others that are trying to figure things out. We still maintain that a happy band on stage makes everything much easier! Figure out a workflow that supports that! I think our speed (minus technical issues) is a key for us...Also, the feedback we get back from musicians when we hand them a device and tell them that this is yours for the show has been tremendous....I don't think a lot of sound people are doing this or don't understand why they should....it takes all of the stress and effort away and empowers the musician!
Always love Father Bart's "blessing of the monitors" move!
😂🤣😂🤣. Thanks for the new visual!
@@thesoundcouple Cast away the evil sins of Feedback!
Its amazing to see that the bands u work with already have their IEMs all setup. So they just have to play as per usual.
For this band, we provide some of the IEM gear and a couple of the musicians provide their own.
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I can't stop watching these videos. So entertaining and fun. I Love the entire process you guys do. Keep up the great content. 👍
Thanks! We have a few videos that we are pretty proud of...this is one of them.
sou técnico de áudio, aqui no brasil, mais precisamente em fortaleza ceara, gostei muito do equipamento, organizado e tira um som muito bom , parabéns.
Obrigada. Esperamos que nossos vídeos sejam capazes de ajudá-lo com o seu negócio!
How funny, you expect the crow kind of in the middle close by and they endeup spready out and moving back 50 yards n over from the band 🤣🤣
We were just there this past weekend....it was hot and the people far back again. We have a lot of theories about this place that we have discussed, but another factor we realized is they sit where the shade is!
@@thesoundcouplehopefully next time the gig is at night and u get everyone right where u want them 👍
hi stacey and bart how cool was thate gig so very cool two cool ass
This is a very neat gig!
Hey, I just wanted to say this.
I absolutely love watching all your videos; It's so interesting to see how stuff is done in the US, how you (personally) do stuff differently from others, and the equipment you have. It's given me so much more knowledge into live sound & lighting. Thank you so much for all the hard work you do, for both video'ing & production, you're doing amazing! (Especially with full time jobs ontop of that)
*ps, if you ever want a video editor, feel free to hit me up* 😉
Thanks George, and thanks for letting us know we are helping you out. We really enjoy sharing our videos, and yes, it's a lot of work, but worth it! Someday, perhaps we can seek help with it all, but we have a ways to go before we could be at that level!
excellent videos, excuse me, what is the name of the support or table you use for the rack? Grateful from now on
Thanks! Link to similar: amazon.com/dp/B097Q8Z9XV/?coliid=I3HHGUYJB2D8YC&colid=2NLB7HPLXSQ32&psc=1&ref_=lv_ov_lig_dp_it
3 words for you guys: UH MAY ZING! 🤣 You two are incredibly incredible! Keep up the good work!
Thank you! It’s nice to know that people are interested in what we are doing and hopefully we are helping others!
Is it just me or can yall hear anything
I can't hear it either.
Same here
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Same here -- audio glitch :)
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good job! fine band too!
Thanks! We are truly lucky to work with great people!
How many hours do you arrive at the venue prior to band’s load in? Thanks for all these videos
It depends, but generally, 3 hours. Sometimes more, sometimes less.
and guys, do more recordings even if it’s for your own purposes. Sounds pretty good to me !
Thanks David - we will continue to consider recordings...it just depends on the gig and what we are up to!
Do you have leg weights or something for the E-Z Up canopy? Just wondering how you keep it in place when you have to set up on concrete/pavement in gusty wind conditions.
I'd noticed the outfills before you mentioned them :) ... given your experience of this, how would you have changed the set up if you were doing it again tomorrow? It's great to hear what you've learned from doing this (like the UC Surface needing resetting etc. being a higher check of your debugging checklist next time).
And would you have preferred to have a violin microphone on the violin, possibly with a wireless unit? Would have allowed the violin player to not be so nailed down and a more consistent distance from the microphone.
I see you covered a bit of the 180/360 coverage at the end of the video, thanks! :)
We have EZ-Up sandbags and more recently, purchased some weights with straps for popups. We learned a few things so stay tuned as we happened to be back there at that same venue with another band the following week! The violinists that day was a sub and we were told that she was bringing her own mic, so we went with it. If you noticed during soundcheck, the singer wanted her up in her monitor so she could come up and solo, but didn't realize she was stuck back in her place with a mic. Their regular person has built in mic in to his instrument so he is more mobile on stage, and that's what we would have preferred for her as well. We will have another video coming up that he is a part of. Thanks for watching and your feedback!
grumble grumble....yes we did!
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Like always guys you did a great job! Liked that you had an average of 87dB out 200ft, and the no feedbacks whatsoever. Which wireless mics do you use with which capsule?
The band provided a few vocal mics....I know one was a wireless Sennheiser and the drummer and guitar player provided their own, which I can't recall. We also provided our Shure ULXD4Q with Beta 58 capsules for the Bass player and one singer.
Hi guys, i’ve been enjoying pretty much your videos, i have two cuestions, When you are Recording live is your patch point pre fader, or do you récord straight from the pre amp?
And second cuestión is the casters on your subs vibrante with the low frecuencies and how do you seal with that problem?
Love your videos!!
We will record pre or post DSP depending on what we are trying to accomplish. Typically, if we are doing a quick recording, we use post. If we are hired to do a recording, we will do pre. We haven't had any issues with the casters that we have noticed.
Regarding Your USB issue, I have 24R and I also hav had usb Connection issues, a reboot fixed it, but it turned out it was a known issue and it’s the power supply that goes into safe mode, you can check with your contact person for presonus service if you unit is affected. Just got mine back and it’s working great now with usb. Does not has to be the same issue you experienced but just wanted to share my experience. Keep up the good work.
Appreciate you sharing. They came out with Compatibility Mode which really helped older computers. This was definitely a struggle for a lot of us!
Hey Sound Couple, great work! I saw your iPad connection up to ~200'. How are you able to maintain that signal strength at that distance. Any recommendations?
Throughout our early videos, we were on a Wi-Fi journey. Starts with a good router, which we have. Next, it was about finding the right channel and settings that worked for us. We used scanning software (Wi-Fi Explorer Lite). Once we found that, it’s been pretty rock solid from gig to gig.
I appreciate your Videos.I would love to contact you about some questions & advice with my Sound company.
Peace & Blessings
We have our e-mail link in our "About" section. Please feel to reach out with any specific questions. Some have reached out for consultation services, which unfortunately is not something we offer, but happy to try to answer any specific questions you have!
so want to have a job like this! but I don't have the capital to buy this equipment! how much did it cost me to get this
The investment can really vary....there is work you can do in the industry that doesn't require you to make the equipment investment as well.
@@thesoundcouple first equipment ?mini studio equipment experiment! ua-cam.com/video/5gUUem040Q8/v-deo.html
All of these tools are not standard in the live music industry ,😭
@@karaokeaskasik OK, I will bite...what has that have to do with is question? What's your point? What "standard" do you have that allows you to do your job better?? Don't bother answering if you don't have are unable to articulate and intelligent answer....I get super annoyed with people that think gear is the key to doing a good job, their just tools smeared in marketing BS that some people buy into or because they are just following what the rest of the sheep out there do "Dude, this is the greatest and your stuff sucks, so if you want to hang with the rest of us, you gotta use what everyone else uses, you aren't a real sound guy!" ..so tell us why we can't do our job just is well as others with the gear we have? I am listening.......I have used a lot of gear over the years, so it better be good.
all the tools that I use in the video are not standard audio sound systems, I use the Marsal MG 10 amplifier for my drum guitar, I use the home theater bass amplifier, Leney Vocal, DIY Sound (Java). If I want to go into the industry, what kind of amplifier should I buy first? passive/active for mini band needs?
Did you put up overheads? I really can't tell.
So, open air event, 4x18 inch subs, and 4x15s 2way? Granted you placed 1 more PA for each side.
Yes...that covered it!
This band is very good i don't know who they are but I would cut out the the 3rd Singer guy on stage left two main ladies are amazing
The band is Coyote Wild. Unfortunately, the two ladies in this video have left, but their successors are great too....we will have some more full band videos in the future, but we just did a video with the partial band here: ua-cam.com/video/LfceVA1cKs8/v-deo.html
Question : I have the CDL12 I was wondering what you set your cross over at I have a drive rack pa if you can help me out
We use Worx control for DSP and run them at 100Hz crossover point.
I love watching your videos the sounds are great! 👏Can I apply to your team as an extra? Hope you notice me 😊
We appreciate your enthusiasm and glad that our videos are inspiring!
hey guys i'm trying to start a new sound company here in guyana and have a few questions about the gear you use
Sure! You can reach us at: soundcouple@comcast.net
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Nevermind. I see the mono OH.
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Who is the beautiful red haired lady?, loved the stream.
We enjoy working with her too!
hello, sound couple what mic kit drums did you use in live bands? which brand?
We use Sennheiser 604's for toms, Shure Beta 52 on Kick, and Oktava condensers for HH and OVHD (primarily and on this gig).
@@thesoundcouple oh i see, Thank you here from philippines please shout out this name during your gig please “WJ SOUNDS AND LIGHTS from philippines”.
I like your Live Sound! 👍
Thanks! Appreciate you watching!
Are you guys using the cdl12 or cdl12p. I’m seriously thinking of getting some
We use the CDL12’s. Check out our introduction to them here: ua-cam.com/video/iK-WH0wueoM/v-deo.html
Is the capture and studio app free ?
Capture is. I believe Studio One Artist is free, with limited functionality.
On every side 2 stacked basses and 2 tops.
On a lot of gigs, yes.
Really like your Set up Guy's to much. from Philippines with Luv!!!
Thanks so much!
How big the subs speaker is?? Is it 1000 watt speaker inside?
The subs are the PreSonus CDL18's. Yes, I believe the cabinet is 1000 watts. Thanks for watching!
Thank you sir. it's like a Lot of juice coming out from that 4 subs
@@halidharis Have I heard bigger better? I think so, but for their size and portability, we are happy with how they perform!
Bart, got a question for you. I did a field event last week and was not happy with the coverage or performance of my ev ekx's. I've always used them indoors or in small outdoor environments and they sounded great (to me), but they really fell off when pushed in that big field. Anyway, it has me reconsidering my setup and looking at possibly some CDL12's like you since you use them in all environments big or small. My question is; does the less expensive cdl12p perform the same as the CDL12's you have? Or is it necessary to save up more to get the CDL12? Also, in your experience are the cdl12's pretty scaleable or should I just change course and start thinking about acquiring some rcf hd6a's over time?
I can't comment from experience on the "P's", but the specs look nearly identical. If your requirements are generally similar to ours, just make sure your needs are within 2 boxes per side. More than two, they need to be flown and again, imo, for these boxes, they would be more appropriate for an install as their are probably better choices for portable line array's. Please note as well that that we do supplement them with 328's for center or side fills...at our bigger shows, I would not want to push them harder, so we are at max.
@@thesoundcouple Thank you for your response Bart. I called Sweetwater to place my order for the CDL12'S (the originals not the "P" version) and was informed they are now discontinued!!!!! With that being said, do you think it's worth still buying into the CDL lineup with the remaining stock that may be left or just move on to something different?
@@spidafingaz1 Unfortunately, that looks to be the case. PreSonus, IMO, does a good job supporting their products regardless of their status, so I wouldn't have any concerns about buying them (I have seen them on E-Bay). I don't have direct experience with "P" series, but the specs look virtually identical. The big difference is that they are plastic and lack Dante.
Which model motionlabs distro are you using?
Sorry, not sure and it's packed in our van. We will look the next time we take it out!
All I could hear was the snare drum... where was the electric guitar in your mix.. And you need lots of power to throw spl that distance.. I would use 15 k.watts front at least.. Cheers
I am drummer at heart...I guess I can't have enough snare drum! We felt the system was more than adequate and appropriate for this type of event. Event sponsors and bands have budgets that are under continuous pressure and we feel that we provide extremely good value for the money for our services and quality of gear we provide. I can't justify investing and providing more gear that the budgets can support ...and if others are, then I guess we are out of business.
Do you like your iPad cases? Are the rugged enough? I'm in the market for some new cases that can take some drops ;)
We do! We are big fans of Otter Box Defender series. Phones and iPads, haven’t gone wrong yet!
If possible I would like to talk to you guys about the CDLs. I actually have a few pairs of my own but I'm having a crazy issue with always hitting the limiter. Even with proper game staging, I always get the limit light. It's really odd. How do you guys handle that?
Have you hooked up them up to Worx control? You should check to see that you have the latest firmware and confirm there isn't anything out of ordinary with the DSP settings.
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When it comes to shows like this yes absolutely what's in the budget however I have learned in my 30 years that little extras make the difference between you and someone else... Im not saying bring a 50k setup, just sometimes doing something small like fills can go a long way. For me in this instance I would have setup Delay Stacks even if it was never orginally paid for. Why cause it needed the coverage and explain to the client why and let them know they should be having them normally and here is the normal cost.
I have gotten more events that way then by just doing what I was paid to do. As far as ears go that's all on the engineer who's in charge in my opinion....
Appreciate you sharing your insights and approaches. Finding the balance that works for you is always a challenge.
Another great practical video Sound Couple. I’ve experienced some of the same issues with sunlight on iPads and phones. Another good reason for these bands to provide their own monitoring equipment.....ears, packs, and mixers especially. Because of all the variables involved, bands need to take ownership of practicing with ears and to be prepared before shows. IMHO, trying to work through the issues the day of the show could have been completely avoided. For these reasons I’ve stopped providing monitor mixing through ears. I’ll provide wedges, but that’s it. These one off shows are too rushed and everyone gets worked up when problems surface. One solution I’ve thought of would to be to buy personal mixers like the Midas DP48. I’ve just seen too many of these “reboot” the system scenarios. Digital, wireless, funky power, sunlight, lap top computers......many points of failure. The joys of running sound and having’ fun.
Thank you for sharing your perspective Kyle! I hope people read the comments as we love hearing what people have to say as it can be as educational as the videos!
I can't hear anything
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faithful watcher. dig your videos! keep em coming.
Q: what do you pack your microphones in for transport. All these flight cases and pelican type cases are all sooo expensive.
Happy to hear that! Our main wireless mics we carry directly in unit. (Video here…ua-cam.com/video/YB8pQFtXSn4/v-deo.html)
The rest of our mics we have been able to condense down to a small carrying case like this: www.amazon.com/safe-file-document-lock-box/dp/B00EJZ4OPE/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?crid=30Z1WBFUSYEYF&keywords=vaultz+locking+storage+box&qid=1667690828&sprefix=vaultz+%2Caps%2C257&sr=8-3
In the future we do break out our mega microphone case!
Yep ... 2 328s on winch stands on each side would cover that area perfectly 😁
Our 328's are absolute work horses! Love these cabinets! It is an absolute shame they stopped making these cabinets...it truly is.
So I was expecting to see fall colors and cool weather…you archived it.
Oh well, nice video and it was cool to critique another country band (in my head that is) because that’s what my band plays.
Ya-ooh! 🤠
You will be seeing summer for some time yet....we are just backlogged on videos and we are working on them in chronological order!
Greetings from La Paz, Bolivia, you are an inspiration in live audio for social events, thanks to your videos I am finally encouraged to make changes to my rider, I finally put on a large part of my audio equipment, my wife is also part of it active staff, I love all your videos, Greetings.❤
Thank you Juan! It's nice to know that we can be of help to people all over the world! Take care!
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I’m surprised the violin didn’t have a Jack out so you could of DI’d into the PA.
Yes, so were we. This was a sub and their regular does have a pick-up mounted on the instrument.
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We have contacted UA-cam and they are working on it! Thanks!
Can you share the picture and model number for your power box ??
It's a Motion Labs unit. It's buried in the van right now, but we can let you know the next time we pull it out. Please e-mail so we remember if you are really interested! Thanks!
@@thesoundcouple Thanks for your reply.. What is your email address??
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Everything sounded great...except for the floor tom. We should normalize soundmen reaching into their pocket and whizzing a fat pack of moongels at drummers who don't have their floors tuned properly. Kind of like the shield of shame for guitar players who won't turn their amp down to a manageable level...lol. Thanks for sharing...enjoy following along from Iowa. Keep them coming.
I do think these issues are the downsides of bands not carrying their own sound person. As a "member of the band" they are in a better position to take actions that make the band better. In our engagements, we are more inclined to manage the circumstances presented to us....not sure if that's right or wrong, but I do think it helps push us to be better with our skills and tools to overcome less than perfect circumstances.
@@thesoundcouple I completely understand. As a drummer myself I tend to be bold and ask if they can tune the ring or flubb out. There's a lot of factors including the weather though so we all become experts with a gate and notch filter. You handle it all professionally.
I once sold a PDP snare drum I never really cared for along with a Sonor kit that sounded phenomenal. The snare just had this weird overtone that different heads, tuning, or dampening didn't seem to improve. Karma came for me when the kid I sold it to started playing in a band I ran sound for regularly. I just wanted rid of it and ended up having to mix that terrible sounding POS on the regular. Adapt and overcome!
@@LNDIowa That's is karma! Thanks for sharing your experience!
Recorded a band at a state fair. During their load out, played the recording. The band did not recognize themselves until the vocals started. Offered the band the recording and asked for permission to use it for sound system virtual sound checks. Got permission. Did not ask or obtain permission to post online. The band reserves that right. Will delete a recording if permission is not granted for use.
That is a very polite thing to do, but technically unnecessary as a cover band does not own the rights to the music they are covering. Anyway, this can get into a big debate which we will avoid on our channel. We are abiding by UA-cam policies and the band is happy with to have their talent shared...so we are covered as far as we're concerned! One of our primary goal is to share our knowledge to hopefully inspire others to go even further through showing them what we do!
Just out of curiosity... how would working in VSC with this bands tracks help you, unless you're mixing this same band all the time?
@@dustinthiessen I am really not sure...not familiar with VSC...sorry.
@@thesoundcouple ah, my comment was for the other guy.... VSC is just short for virtual sound check, where you take raw multi tracks, and play them back through the console, in place of having the band on stage.
@@dustinthiessen Got it....makes sense. I think that would be the most practical application - which used to be PreSonus's big pitch with functionality. Personally, the concept is neat, but not super practical imo.
Great job guys...... nice outdoor event...
Name of the band please!
The band is Coyote Wild
No sound guys. At least in the first few minutes
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I ❤️love your work, sound, all equipment, gear. I am an Indian🇮🇳. I am a sound🎛️ owner.
🤔 I would like to ask how much you charge for such work.💪
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We appreciate you taking the time to watch! However, we don't get into specific financial information on our channel! Sorry!
It's okay no problem
Wow!! Thanks Stacy and Bart for this! love the mix! Also thanks to the band to allow it.
You're welcome...we are glad you enjoyed it!
Bad news...no audio..
We have contacted UA-cam and they are working on it! Thanks!
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@@thesoundcouple completely understand! Can't wait , always love your content and videos.
El vídeo no tiene sonido, saludos desde Colombia
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Do you guys have an upload schedule if so I’m very eager to see the next vid
Make sure you are subscribed and you have notifications turned on! It's difficult to set a schedule as there is a lot of variables that are in play with each one, but we try to release at least every couple weeks. Thank you for your interest, that's pretty cool! We can tell you that we are putting the finishing touches on the latest video and we will be publishing it in the next couple days!
@@thesoundcouple can’t wait
👍 Grande!!
360p only?
HD is still processing on UA-cam servers. Everything is really slow today for some reason!
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