Thanks for the drum miking secrets! The undersnare boom arm clamp was a good idea. The comments on why you weren't using overheads were also very useful, thank you. The "Stacy's Cheater" DMX extender cables for the dongles is a brilliant idea
I have bought all of my cable ramps off of eBay . I have around 300 feet of 2 channel and 200 feet of 3 channel . When I bought the first 75 feet of the 2 channel it was $ 34.00 for Three 1 meter ramps and free shipping . The next set of of 125 feet was $ 36.00 each set of 3 and free shipping . The last 100 feet was 32.00 for 3 ramps and free shipping . But between the 9 systems we run we have over 2000 feet of the 2 channel and over 1000 feet of the 5 channel ... Our Metal Shop guy builds the dollies for them .
Wow, that seems really reasonable...I was looking at Elasco's website when I was making the video (haven't thought about these for years), and the cheapest similar to ours were around $130 per section....very expensive IMO.
35:50 around there raising the fader for Guitar, keys, and bass a little would work and have stage noise down on amps but the drums and horns are the loudest so is hard. And what happened at 37:46
I think I notice a trend where I do a bit more talking than I should :). The videos can reveal things we don't realize in conjunction with what you guys find...so it's really helpful.
24:29 Nostalgia! I’m looking at that Fender Vibrolux Reverb guitar amp on your stage SC. It’s been 53 years since I lost mine or even seen one. Thx SC. I love your videos and the detail you give us. I am a sound guy too using the PreSonus 32r and iPad Pro. The extra work you and Stacy do for us schooling us on how 24:29 you do things is appreciated!
Well done team. It’s a shame you weren’t able to park on site (eg in the pavilion-original gig spot) as this was vacant. However, with parking this distance away, a portable e-scooter might come in handy at some point.
That would be nice! It does highlight the fact that staying in shape is a plus since we never truly know what we are getting ourselves into with some of these gigs!
I just put my Beta 52 IN the drum on a pillow, assuming there's one in there, and if not most drummers will let add one if you ask, then it's one less things to have to deal with, no mic stand. It gave me just as good if not better results and I've never looked back!
We broke out our Sennheiser e901 recently and I will admit that I was kind of digging it (and no stand to boot!). We work with different drummers so a mic on a stand will always work for sure...but placing the mic in the drum can work too. One of the arguments of placing it at the port is that it allows to better capture the vibrations of the entire drum, not just picking up primarily the beater...in theory, that makes sense to me.
Have fun with that! I can remember a different stadium- and getting lost going in circles- dragging multiple carts- great for a work out, not so great for time!😂
They work out great! Here is a link to our build...we made a couple minor errors, but they are working exactly like we were hoping they would: ua-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/v-deo.html
Yea love how it is always Sound mans fault when band is too loud even if you have all faders off but vocals. Then asking band to turndown which normally last maybe two songs. But you did great job as always. Keep up the good work
The core problem here was the space....towards the end of the video when I was walking back to the stage, it was so clear even from behind the stage....the concourse just took the sound and threw it everywhere! I know there would have been no problems if we were to have played at the scheduled location.
The loop on the hihat cable isn't just for cosmetics. It happened to me more than once that the xlr came loose in a similar situation. The lock on the xlr plug doesn't hold the weight of the cable when the mic is vibrating.
Absolutely! Also, we are a guest on a drummers kit, so I prefer to limit the amount of our stuff is getting in their way....that's why I kind of got on Stacy about thinking we should wrap our cable around their stand.
Hi Craig - I really like this suggestion. Although it's not what we would consider an approach you see as much today, I think it's something to definitely consider in some situations.
I had a job, where the cajon player brought a small drum kit. Ok, the bass drum was practically inaudible, so I took the SM57 what was intended as cajon microphone and directed it to the bass drum and got a satisfying sound, not very low, but this would have caused some feedbacks, on the other hand I wanted a sound, as would it be not amplified, but audible.
It's always fun to walk into something and then go I'm way over prepped for this. I was working with a band and nonprofit, and they decided to do a festival. I don't remember who it was that they ended up having do sound. I ended up on monitoring monitors at some point sitting there thinking yeah I could've done this. Loaning things out, coordinating. My local theater had a big group come in. The night before I was on a group message that came up with does anybody have the contact for the sound company we can't get a hold of them… I replied to the messages saying that I was on alert. It would've been a little bit of a stretch but I think I could've done it big band too small stage. Thankfully 😞they were able to get in contact. Edit: Fixed some grammar. And yeah less than 12 hour notice yah I probably could've done that, it would've been an interesting challenge.
Once again thank you for a great video. Thank you for sharing your drums setup secret. Can you please tell me where did you get the covers for your lights? That's a great ideal for the lights. Thank you for all your videos.
Saludos desde Turrialba, Costa Rica.❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I really like that job! I dream of a team like yours. I have a brother who lives in the USA! I am a retired musician and I love making sound! I would like to go to work with you! Hugs!
While watching noticed when you testing hi hat you turned 48v on Tom 1 as it was selected and not the hi hat mic haven’t watched to the end but what I saw
I’ve seen in a few of your videos of a wooden wedge on top of your subs . Is that custom made just for a cleaner look from sub to top for a clean looking transition ? Or is it maybe deflecting reflections off the top of the sub when using the downward tilt socket at low heights ? Just my wild guess but what are they for ? I do like the looks of it though .
Hi Steve! Thanks for noticing…it’s something even better than you guessed. Those are our “drink sliders” they keep off unwanted drinks! Have net had one drink on them when we’ve used them! 😊 You can see our build of them here: ua-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/v-deo.html
Congratulatios to you The Sound Couple, you're a pro, I am curious to know how much is the cost of your services in an event like this, congratulations from Guayaquil - Ecuador, I am a dj but sometimes I have had to provide sound for a small band.
What we charge depends on the gig. We are in the mid to upper tier in our class. Since so many of our gigs are based on band budgets, our clients can appreciate our value as you probably see through most of our gigs. There are some in the same class that don't want to spend the money and frankly, because there are some production companies that are willing/able to do more for less or equal than what we do. But we have our limits so it's ok to let those guys get that work.
Hello, I'm from Brasil, and I would like to know where you bought your PRESONUS speakers and if you have a store in the US specialized in selling some speakers from other brands..thanks a lot... you are an inspiration to me. I work with events and sound here. Make a video about stores that sell good speakers to buy in 2023, please! Success always!Tkanks 2you
We have purchased ours from a couple different sources. We have purchased from E-bay and also from a local rep that was referred to us. We have noticed that E-bay seems to always have a good selection, but that's just our opinion. Thanks for watching and good luck!
One one small issue with you drum mic placement you need to point it at where the drummer is hitting the skin. Therefore would be a good idea to watch where the drummers you work with hit the skin then point the mics. You will find that you will get less "Boom" and more snap. (Note not all drummer hit the center of their drums (Depends on tuning)
I really love your video, I have been a DJ for over 15yrs & have had a lot of small community events or fundraiser that started asking if I could provide some support to a local student band or other group that wants to play during the event. I was thinking about buying a pair of Presonus CDL12P or KLA12 just for that purpose. I currently run all QSC for School Dances and Proms but wonder what should I be charging for band support.
What to charge is always difficult....there is what you think you are worth, what you are really worth, and what the budgets can afford. It's finding that balance and the right customers that are a good fit for you.
Great job like always! Thanks for talking a bit about the logistics issue which has been my problem most of the time because most times the clients don’t consider that and then we are the ones trying to hustle to be set on time. Impressed with the intelligibility of the voice far away when you guys were on the upper level. What would you say is the biggest indoor gig you’ve done with Two CDL12’s per side ? How big was the space? Shout out to Stacey for giving you the exact same stare my wife gives me when it’s late and there is so much equipment to pickup 😂
Thanks Jose! Trying to think back to "indoor" shows to think about the biggest. That said, we don't do a lot of gigs where there is a requirement to cover the entire room but we never have had a problem covering any indoor space we have been in....hotels, event spaces, etc. So what I can confidently say we have always had enough PA for any indoor show, I would remember it if we didn't.
I am interested in getting the Chauvet 4bar lighting system and I have noticed the covers that you have put on them when it is raining. Could you do a video on those? Where did you get them or did Stacy make them if so would she make some for anyone else?
She was complaining that it was too loud...which was arguably the situation, but there is only so much I can do about it. I did ask the band to bring their stage volume down (we pretty much had everything out of the mix). People think that sound guys have a magical way of communicating with the band at anytime and have complete control over how loud the music is. We are an easy target, but just part of the equation.
We typically stick to reverbs and short delays and adding a tap delay for special FX...that's it! We do break out Studio One for FX plugins every once in while too.
I always try not to get too ruffled when things don't go the way they're expected. Occasionally, my gloves come off when someone is being a complete douche, but that's thankfully very uncommon. Most of the events I do, I end up having to wing it a lot of the time. Especially multi-band events where you either don't get a rider at all, or the rider is three years old and everything has changed.
There has been maybe a couple times where I really lost my cool. I recall once arriving at a gig where they made significant logistic changes after driving a good distance for a pre-walkthrough. Nobody bothered to let us know of these changes and it was a complete cluster upon arrival. Another similar situation where we arrived to a crowd of people and they told me I should have come in that morning....we were hired by the band and there is no way that was going to happen with what we were getting paid!
I think a lot of these corporate gigs are set up by their PR departments and they just assume that the band owns all the pa gear and lighting. This has to be communicated to the booking agents, that the Sound Couple is hired by the band no the agent and it is their responsibility to let PR firms or corporate PR know that. I, as I’m sure Stacy and Bart don’t like surprises like that at a gig. It’s hard enough to get things setup and sound checked making sure everything is working without anymore pressure heaped on them.
Yes, can't agree more Rick. They were good to work with, but we simply have a different perspective that unless you are doing this work, you wouldn't understand. In fact, we have received that same feedback from friends and family that watch our videos....to quote "we had no idea"!
I agree in making sure you hire the right entertainment...however, I hesitate promoting to never hire us again. Live music, like a DJ, needs to know when to flex.
@@thesoundcouple Yea, I sort of rethought that after I hit Submit. I worked a room, where I became very close with the owners. My bands played there and I did sound for other bands as well. The room was just too small for live drums, so, while on vacation, I sort of talked them into going acoustic only. They're very happy, and I still get some occasional easy work.
As soon as I saw how that lighting stand was raised I had to click away. Sorry I feel with your lighting your taking chances and can't watch.. sorry that you lost a subscriber over that...
Congratulations ....
another show executed in the best possible way and what an environment to sound! the Final work was TOP ....
Thank you! We always figure out a way to make it work!
Thanks for the drum miking secrets! The undersnare boom arm clamp was a good idea. The comments on why you weren't using overheads were also very useful, thank you.
The "Stacy's Cheater" DMX extender cables for the dongles is a brilliant idea
Glad we could help! It’s always nice to learn some tips and tricks along the way.
I have bought all of my cable ramps off of eBay . I have around 300 feet of 2 channel and 200 feet of 3 channel . When I bought the first 75 feet of the 2 channel it was $ 34.00 for Three 1 meter ramps and free shipping . The next set of of 125 feet was $ 36.00 each set of 3 and free shipping . The last 100 feet was 32.00 for 3 ramps and free shipping . But between the 9 systems we run we have over 2000 feet of the 2 channel and over 1000 feet of the 5 channel ... Our Metal Shop guy builds the dollies for them .
Wow, that seems really reasonable...I was looking at Elasco's website when I was making the video (haven't thought about these for years), and the cheapest similar to ours were around $130 per section....very expensive IMO.
Loved the drum rationale. Thanks for another great video.
Glad we could help!
Hi guys It's impressive that you two can do it like that setup👏
Thank you!
I am watching from Thailand. You and your partner are awesome.
Welcome and thank you!
35:50 around there raising the fader for Guitar, keys, and bass a little would work and have stage noise down on amps but the drums and horns are the loudest so is hard. And what happened at 37:46
I think I notice a trend where I do a bit more talking than I should :). The videos can reveal things we don't realize in conjunction with what you guys find...so it's really helpful.
24:29 Nostalgia! I’m looking at that Fender Vibrolux Reverb guitar amp on your stage SC. It’s been 53 years since I lost mine or even seen one. Thx SC.
I love your videos and the detail you give us. I am a sound guy too using the PreSonus 32r and iPad Pro. The extra work you and Stacy do for us schooling us on how 24:29 you do things is appreciated!
Thanks Dewayne! That is neat to point some things out that others wouldn't recognize....he is on the top of list on my favorite guitar players.
Im glad you guys released a new video, The speaker stand chairs are an interesting addition lol.
Sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do!
@@thesoundcouple lol
Well done team. It’s a shame you weren’t able to park on site (eg in the pavilion-original gig spot) as this was vacant. However, with parking this distance away, a portable e-scooter might come in handy at some point.
That would be nice! It does highlight the fact that staying in shape is a plus since we never truly know what we are getting ourselves into with some of these gigs!
I just put my Beta 52 IN the drum on a pillow, assuming there's one in there, and if not most drummers will let add one if you ask, then it's one less things to have to deal with, no mic stand. It gave me just as good if not better results and I've never looked back!
We broke out our Sennheiser e901 recently and I will admit that I was kind of digging it (and no stand to boot!). We work with different drummers so a mic on a stand will always work for sure...but placing the mic in the drum can work too. One of the arguments of placing it at the port is that it allows to better capture the vibrations of the entire drum, not just picking up primarily the beater...in theory, that makes sense to me.
excelente video
Thanks!
Great video! I've got a gig in a stadium clubhouse soon - this is a good reminder that we should definitely add extra time for load in 🙃
Have fun with that! I can remember a different stadium- and getting lost going in circles- dragging multiple carts- great for a work out, not so great for time!😂
I love the subwoofer drink Ramp.
They work out great! Here is a link to our build...we made a couple minor errors, but they are working exactly like we were hoping they would: ua-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/v-deo.html
Yea love how it is always Sound mans fault when band is too loud even if you have all faders off but vocals. Then asking band to turndown which normally last maybe two songs. But you did great job as always. Keep up the good work
The core problem here was the space....towards the end of the video when I was walking back to the stage, it was so clear even from behind the stage....the concourse just took the sound and threw it everywhere! I know there would have been no problems if we were to have played at the scheduled location.
@@thesoundcouple I love LOVE LIGITS AND SOUND AND THE SOUND COUPLE
Sound ligits
Great bit on your drum snake :)
Couldn't imagine not having one!
Great Video!
Thanks!
The loop on the hihat cable isn't just for cosmetics. It happened to me more than once that the xlr came loose in a similar situation. The lock on the xlr plug doesn't hold the weight of the cable when the mic is vibrating.
Absolutely! Also, we are a guest on a drummers kit, so I prefer to limit the amount of our stuff is getting in their way....that's why I kind of got on Stacy about thinking we should wrap our cable around their stand.
Buy cables with Neutrik plugs.
@@borisstojs They are the best!
❤I love concerts and LIGITS I LOVE LIGITS AND SOUND
Thank you!
Side fill monitors work with hard wood ceiling and crowded stage.
Hi Craig - I really like this suggestion. Although it's not what we would consider an approach you see as much today, I think it's something to definitely consider in some situations.
I never see that many people at these gigs!
A good turn out always is a nice feeling..but don't let it get to you if it doesn't happen.
HA! Vocals and kick! So many shows ,,,,
It's a drag, but it's the reality for some shows!
Excelente...
Obrigado!
I had a job, where the cajon player brought a small drum kit. Ok, the bass drum was practically inaudible, so I took the SM57 what was intended as cajon microphone and directed it to the bass drum and got a satisfying sound, not very low, but this would have caused some feedbacks, on the other hand I wanted a sound, as would it be not amplified, but audible.
The SM57 can be used anywhere really....it's been used on many kick drums in the studio on infamous albums.
It's always fun to walk into something and then go I'm way over prepped for this.
I was working with a band and nonprofit, and they decided to do a festival. I don't remember who it was that they ended up having do sound. I ended up on monitoring monitors at some point sitting there thinking yeah I could've done this. Loaning things out, coordinating.
My local theater had a big group come in. The night before I was on a group message that came up with does anybody have the contact for the sound company we can't get a hold of them… I replied to the messages saying that I was on alert. It would've been a little bit of a stretch but I think I could've done it big band too small stage. Thankfully 😞they were able to get in contact.
Edit: Fixed some grammar. And yeah less than 12 hour notice yah I probably could've done that, it would've been an interesting challenge.
Thanks for sharing!
I can't be certain but it looks like at 25:27 the hi-hat mic cable wasn't plugged in all the way. Was this why you didn't get it during line check?
Good catch! I was thinking about this and honestly can't remember what the issue was. At 35:32, it's working so we figured it out.
Once again thank you for a great video. Thank you for sharing your drums setup secret. Can you please tell me where did you get the covers for your lights? That's a great ideal for the lights. Thank you for all your videos.
Those are our “light condoms”. 😂. Stacy made them out of shower curtain material and elastic.
Saludos desde Turrialba, Costa Rica.❤👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 I really like that job! I dream of a team like yours.
I have a brother who lives in the USA! I am a retired musician and I love making sound!
I would like to go to work with you!
Hugs!
Thank you!
While watching noticed when you testing hi hat you turned 48v on Tom 1 as it was selected and not the hi hat mic haven’t watched to the end but what I saw
Ah Ha! Thanks! There is evidence of it working later but I couldn't remember what the issue was...pretty clear once you see it.
I’ve seen in a few of your videos of a wooden wedge on top of your subs .
Is that custom made just for a cleaner look from sub to top for a clean looking transition ?
Or is it maybe deflecting reflections off the top of the sub when using the downward tilt socket at low heights ?
Just my wild guess but what are they for ?
I do like the looks of it though .
Hi Steve! Thanks for noticing…it’s something even better than you guessed. Those are our “drink sliders” they keep off unwanted drinks! Have net had one drink on them when we’ve used them! 😊 You can see our build of them here:
ua-cam.com/video/ZpK2naPWT2Y/v-deo.html
@@thesoundcouple LOL That will teach me to over analyze . By the way thats a GREAT IDEA !!
Congratulatios to you The Sound Couple, you're a pro, I am curious to know how much is the cost of your services in an event like this, congratulations from Guayaquil - Ecuador, I am a dj but sometimes I have had to provide sound for a small band.
What we charge depends on the gig. We are in the mid to upper tier in our class. Since so many of our gigs are based on band budgets, our clients can appreciate our value as you probably see through most of our gigs. There are some in the same class that don't want to spend the money and frankly, because there are some production companies that are willing/able to do more for less or equal than what we do. But we have our limits so it's ok to let those guys get that work.
Hai... The Sound Couple... Lama Tak Jumpa... Harap.. Semua Dalam Keadaan Sihat... 🤗
hello! Kami berjalan dengan baik, terima kasih! Kami mempunyai banyak lagi pengembaraan untuk dikongsi dengan anda!
qualified musician and good technician : good event
Thank you! Appreciate it!
The talent of the younger musicians continues to amaze me....and they make it look so easy!
Hello, I'm from Brasil, and I would like to know where you bought your PRESONUS speakers and if you have a store in the US specialized in selling some speakers from other brands..thanks a lot... you are an inspiration to me. I work with events and sound here. Make a video about stores that sell good speakers to buy in 2023, please! Success always!Tkanks 2you
We have purchased ours from a couple different sources. We have purchased from E-bay and also from a local rep that was referred to us. We have noticed that E-bay seems to always have a good selection, but that's just our opinion. Thanks for watching and good luck!
One one small issue with you drum mic placement you need to point it at where the drummer is hitting the skin. Therefore would be a good idea to watch where the drummers you work with hit the skin then point the mics. You will find that you will get less "Boom" and more snap. (Note not all drummer hit the center of their drums (Depends on tuning)
Ahhh...you should try it sometime!
I really love your video, I have been a DJ for over 15yrs & have had a lot of small community events or fundraiser that started asking if I could provide some support to a local student band or other group that wants to play during the event. I was thinking about buying a pair of Presonus CDL12P or KLA12 just for that purpose. I currently run all QSC for School Dances and Proms but wonder what should I be charging for band support.
What to charge is always difficult....there is what you think you are worth, what you are really worth, and what the budgets can afford. It's finding that balance and the right customers that are a good fit for you.
Did you phase compensate one of the PA sides for not being on the same line with each other?
Hi Will - we did not. Would be interested in understanding what we would of have done.
Great job like always! Thanks for talking a bit about the logistics issue which has been my problem most of the time because most times the clients don’t consider that and then we are the ones trying to hustle to be set on time.
Impressed with the intelligibility of the voice far away when you guys were on the upper level. What would you say is the biggest indoor gig you’ve done with Two CDL12’s per side ? How big was the space? Shout out to Stacey for giving you the exact same stare my wife gives me when it’s late and there is so much equipment to pickup 😂
Thanks Jose! Trying to think back to "indoor" shows to think about the biggest. That said, we don't do a lot of gigs where there is a requirement to cover the entire room but we never have had a problem covering any indoor space we have been in....hotels, event spaces, etc. So what I can confidently say we have always had enough PA for any indoor show, I would remember it if we didn't.
I am interested in getting the Chauvet 4bar lighting system and I have noticed the covers that you have put on them when it is raining. Could you do a video on those? Where did you get them or did Stacy make them if so would she make some for anyone else?
Thanks for asking! I made those out of a shower liner and elastic. :). Contact us through email and we might be able to work something out!
@@thesoundcouple ok thanks.
What is the email address I can contact y’all on?
You can reach us at: soundcouple@comcast.net
What exactly was it you got a bollocking for? I can't really see what you did wrong. Or were you directing the band?
She was complaining that it was too loud...which was arguably the situation, but there is only so much I can do about it. I did ask the band to bring their stage volume down (we pretty much had everything out of the mix). People think that sound guys have a magical way of communicating with the band at anytime and have complete control over how loud the music is. We are an easy target, but just part of the equation.
Hi sir Good day.what effects we used actually in the vocals?
We typically stick to reverbs and short delays and adding a tap delay for special FX...that's it! We do break out Studio One for FX plugins every once in while too.
@@thesoundcouple .Thank you so much sir for sharing.
👍
Thanks!
Know your worth.
Wouldn't it be nice if everyone did?
I always try not to get too ruffled when things don't go the way they're expected. Occasionally, my gloves come off when someone is being a complete douche, but that's thankfully very uncommon. Most of the events I do, I end up having to wing it a lot of the time. Especially multi-band events where you either don't get a rider at all, or the rider is three years old and everything has changed.
There has been maybe a couple times where I really lost my cool. I recall once arriving at a gig where they made significant logistic changes after driving a good distance for a pre-walkthrough. Nobody bothered to let us know of these changes and it was a complete cluster upon arrival. Another similar situation where we arrived to a crowd of people and they told me I should have come in that morning....we were hired by the band and there is no way that was going to happen with what we were getting paid!
"you are now witnessing me getting my ass chewed out", sometimes it's stressful!
Yeah, it's always enjoyable, right?
@@thesoundcouple oh, yeah!
I think a lot of these corporate gigs are set up by their PR departments and they just assume that the band owns all the pa gear and lighting. This has to be communicated to the booking agents, that the Sound Couple is hired by the band no the agent and it is their responsibility to let PR firms or corporate PR know that. I, as I’m sure Stacy and Bart don’t like surprises like that at a gig. It’s hard enough to get things setup and sound checked making sure everything is working without anymore pressure heaped on them.
Yes, can't agree more Rick. They were good to work with, but we simply have a different perspective that unless you are doing this work, you wouldn't understand. In fact, we have received that same feedback from friends and family that watch our videos....to quote "we had no idea"!
To much concrete, it's not easy to equalize
Unfortunately, this is on par with many entertainment venues as well.
Tell them next time to hire a DJ. I hate when people hire an acoustic band and then complain that it's too loud.
I agree in making sure you hire the right entertainment...however, I hesitate promoting to never hire us again. Live music, like a DJ, needs to know when to flex.
@@thesoundcouple Yea, I sort of rethought that after I hit Submit.
I worked a room, where I became very close with the owners. My bands played there and I did sound for other bands as well. The room was just too small for live drums, so, while on vacation, I sort of talked them into going acoustic only. They're very happy, and I still get some occasional easy work.
Jesus everything off and still too loud. This was just the wrong band for the event in the wrong acoustic setting. They sound great.
Agreed...expectations were not in alignment on this one.
As soon as I saw how that lighting stand was raised I had to click away. Sorry I feel with your lighting your taking chances and can't watch.. sorry that you lost a subscriber over that...
Sorry to hear that. In an upcoming video, we need to climb a tall ladder to hang the lights, so perhaps the way we need to work is not for you.