Will the 351 engine fit in the 1958 Ford Thunderbird? 🧐
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- Опубліковано 8 вер 2024
- The big moment of truth... will the 1989 Ford 351 Windsor engine + transmission fit inside the engine compartment of our 1958 Ford Thunderbird? Cross your fingers for us!!! 🤞🏻
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Jolene tell Chad you can buy an adapter that moves the shifter to the back of the transmission and keeps it shifting the same. Very easy to install. Well worth the money.
Thanks Bradley!! Jolene ended up telling Fina, who then told Tim who relayed your message to Doug who then was happy to let Chad know that there is often time a easier way. They all said "Thanks"!
You should drop a link for that T5 shifter relocation adapter if you can. It would be very helpful.
@Bill Coupe youtube often automatically deletes comments with links, except of course from scammers somehow, lol 😅
That trans is from truck
@@UmmmmmmmWhat Damn right they do.
ROFLMAO you really need a mechanic on this it will go way way faster with one who knows what to do to install a engine sorry but you all are making this way more complicated then it needs to be. with a cutting torch and a welder anything can fit with little effort
Isnt the new bloke Doug suppose to be a mechanic?
Of course it will fit. Chad will find a way for the trans to go in there too. Jolene is giving us great camera work as usual. Doug is a great helper.
only way this channel is here as jolene
On point.
This is going to be quite a daily driver! Looks, power, classics, custom.......yup, a new build for Chad they can drive.
Gud ❤
i think you can build a linkage from the trans location back to where you want the shifter to be and have it still shift quite well
Hey Guys ! CHECK car is level first - then level the engine installation to suit ! !
Exactly right sir.
Chad, where are your fender protectors?
Where’s the rubber on the motor mounts, will vibrate like mad.
Its in the mount
Take the headers off and use a standard exhaust manifold. They'll give clearance of the steering box.
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Good God Man .
Take 2 bolts that screw in the block ..about 4 " long .cut the heads off ....wala long pins to aid in trans mount to engine .
A hella lot easier .
Of course I have done it by myself laying on my back under a vehicle .
Grow large
Chad & Jolene check out the oil filter it looked to me like you will not be able to take it off for oil changes because it is up against whatever is below it. I could not get aa real good view of it so I am not sure if it was the upper control arm or frame. You can look back at the video if you have pulled the engine back out when Jolene reads this. If I am correct you can always put on a remote oil filter kit and mount the filter where ever you want.
Hahaha…Fina says , “ I ain’t having any that !”
Should have taken the rest of the shifter adaptor off as this would allow more space between the transmission and the tunnel. Then when the unit is in place and engine mounts are welded in place, cut a hole in the transmission tunnel to allow refitment of the shifter adaptor.
That’s too easy- Chad gets his best tool the grinder! Just cut a 6”x6” hole I’m sure it will fit!
His name is Brent and the channel is called HalfAss Customs. I love the show with the time lapse and music never boring.
Good job keep up the amazing work I would probably get a different Trans with the shifter in the back less fabrication and everything would be in the right place 😮😊. Good work Tim and Doug and as always great video by Jolene 😮😊😊.
It would help if you put a Jack under the Trans. Jack. Also you need to put a degree scale on it.
Fine job guys! Hopefully someone looked under the car to make sure the tail shaft is centered in the transmission tunnel. Other then that great job Chad! She's going to be a cruiser 👍🏻
The original mounts would have worked no problem,the 302 mount with the stud sticking out would drop. Rite into the y block mounts,ive done it.cheers
The original mounts? The car came with FE series 352 BIG block! The engine he's putting in is a 351 Windsor NOT a 302 They're NOT WINDSORS ! .
@@jerryparks6123 wait,your windsors are diffrent,i stand corrected,cheers!
Solid engine mounts ? Not using rubber on the mounts to soften engine vibration ?
This engine should be smaller than the factory engine, a 352 or 430 V8. The trans is where the issue might be, but with Chad's metal working skills, easy peasy!
Only the drivetrain angles will be critical once everything clears.
I'm new here . But why so many negative comments . I'm 57 and been on the tools since being the age of 12 and enjoy the Chanel . Mainly the welding and adapting the body panels . This is more than the shite that the TV gives you so why so negative ? Good work chad and Joline forgive me if I spelt Joline incorrect
I'm watching this a few hours after you uploaded it. I was thinking the entire time. Where's the jack for under the transmission. Finally you pulled one out 😂
Makes life easier having the correct tools for the job
Great engine choice!!
With the beautiful body lines on that car a hyper shift paint job would look amazing
The way I find the shifter of that type of trans is to get it right front to rear and side to side then I bring the shifter up against the floorboard. From the inside I tap the floorboard until I hear a solid sound and mark that spot then cut the floorboard to fit the boot that I will be using. If you are careful cutting the hole then it can be welded back in easily if needed.
I most prefer Chad working on cars over travel. I like both btw. Todays dilemma with the engine was my idea of great video . thks guys. The old guys make me laugh
Wheres the spacer /clutch cover that goes behind flywheel and inbetween engine and trans and $12 ford truck engine mounts it would dropped in original mount holes i sent link yesterday
Look at shifter relocation kit for that style transmission
Got a link to that kit?
I know there are kits to move shifter back Don’t know which trans that he has for sure. Need model numbers but can do a rough search under shifter relocation kits. Some look quite elaborate good luck with it
Ken, it looks like a T5 to me, but with the forward shifter location, rather than the tailshaft mounted shifter.
wonder if one finder is off the 1947 ford yet.
Nice Work Guys Chad I can Believe you were Scared to cut a hole in the Floor you Cut and Welded Very thing
Engines should be mounted on motor mounts with a rubber cushion so you won't feel any vibrations and cushion the motor.
wonder if we could set doug up with an air rachet
@@SweetSwineOMine undoubtably
Great work Chad, Doug and Tim and excellent work once again Jolene
If going from automatic to standard. You need a pilot shaft bushing. Not sure about the flywheel and clutch presure plate .Research it first before you make transmission mounts.
Nobody got pinch , cut perfect! Looks great! Also fine camera work..
great engine choice lots of torque for that small car
Sorry Sir. The Cleveland Block if the Tank motor you Want holds up a h better the Windsor . Chad want to stay with Made in Canada. Hehehehe.
Good show Chad and darn Jolene makes you look good, your lucky to have a great Director and Cinematographer
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Use your impact on the motor leveler it much faster and less fatigue than a ratchet. Good luck I use the impact to adjust mine all the time!,,
I wish you would put some blankets over those fenders
It shouldn't change anything if you build something to move the shifter back. We made one but had the opposite problem. The shifter was rite at the bench seat and we made one that moved it forward. I believe they make a shifter relocation but with you skills make your own.
Be sure and check for starter placement clearance.
I put a 1969 302 mustang engine with a AOD transmission in my 57 t bird.
.tight but it's in there runs great..had to make shift linkage and used a lokar linkage to shift Trans as it works on hydraulic Pressure
63- 64 ford galaxy had the same mounts as the 58 for the 302 -351
An some times you had to swap sides with the mounts as I recall
Being optimistic is what keeps you going in the right direction and that is what we love to watch❤❤
May have to modify original cross member slightly. Have seen it done.
Your pup is the best part of the video. Epic shop dog. Jolene is great with that camera. The way you finesse space I think you could chamber a .45 long colt into a .22 LR.
I used to like manual transmissions until I had an auto. With a 351 Cleveland and C4 in a 1966 XR Ford Falcon sedan while guys were busy changing gears I was gone.
Dugs got a good motivation as part off the team
I'm not sure why you didn't use the rebuilt 352 engine that came with the car? 352's are great engines. They are much like the 390 motors, some of the 352 engines even put out more horses than the 390. It would drop right in same motor mounts and all.
This isn't a comment on the video. I just wanted to say I hope you two are safe and I want to send all my prayers to the people of Nova Scotia. Hope everyone is surviving okay. BTW: I'm sure the video is great as usual
You make it look it look not simple, but straight forward. Do-able. Thanks Chad, Jolene and friends
You make all those body mods yet you're scared to make a new trans tunnel. Why ????
Chad gets tunnel vision.
Because it's easier to get a trans that fits
just like everything the more you do something the better and easier it becomes . after you get mounts welded in set engine first then put on lift to fit trans in place so you can do trans crossmember and mounts as you install the trans . after pulling and installing several engine and trans you can see what works the best . like installing headers after engine is in place .and install trans from under the car using car lift and trans jack good luck and never give up
Make sure the splines are lined up! i want Tim's shirt! I'm a John Deere Man! No, don't drop it down, let it down! yes, floor jack under the trans, it'll level it out better!
The drivers side header will melt any gear lube/grease rite out the steering box,and there around 400 u.s. to get rebuilt,ask me how i know lol😂🤣 cheers!
The first stab with the motor is always a give and tug. With your metal bending abiity covering the shifter hole is a no Brainerd and if the tranny is rubbing on the firewall the vibrations will be annoying..good thing Tina is there to supervise.good job!
Measure the tail shaft of the transmission to each side of the frame will help you get the engine straight
Windsor , very nice. I had a ford XT GT 1969 ,windsor 302 , 4 speed. Very nice car ,
Doing these type engine tranny swaps are always a chore with new style drive train in old car. I've done a lot and each one is different and a challenge but fun. Good job guys
Good job guys getting things in place Tim was a great help he learned all that stuff at the feed mill when he was there good to see you buddy take care great video thanks
Glad to see you’re back in your happy place.
Looking awesome!!!! I can see a custom pistol grip shifter in this bad ass t- bird! It’s going to be a wheel turner for sure!
What do you think about making the back seat of the 59 like the 36/37 Business coupe hide away area behind the front seats? That might be a little more practical than the back seats after the roof reduction 🙂
Check the tail shaft line up to yoke on rear-end
Good job in sticking the motor transmission in the car thankyou for sharing Chad and Jolene and company
How many Canadian's does it take to .... lol awesome job guys, can't ait for the final reveal on this bad bird.
Chad when you level the engine It might be a good idea to tilt the engine a couple of degrees lower in the back, because the oil in galley will return faster to the rear and get to the oil pump quicker to pump the oil back to your crankshaft and other components. Bob from Fresno, calif
Absolutely, the camera work is exceptional, loved that little peak through the slither of the firewall, find a gap and you take it 😅👍Well done Jolene 👌🏻💫
This will be a snug fit, but it will work. I believe they should have had the engine closer to the floor when mounting the transmission instead of having to lift it up. Jolene always does a fabulous job with the camera.
Chad I would put washers on those transmission bolts. The bolts alone will dig into that aluminum transmission bell housing. I learned that the hard way on my Racecar. I hope you take the man that sold you the 46 Ford. You were so limited with space to look at it. Might had been better to have looked at it outside but you would have been laying in the dirt
You may need a Bronco sump if no one else has already mentioned, it’s the usual go to on some projects for different clearances if not needing the Bronco sump , its good to remember for future projects
Good job guys. I wouldn’t want to be the one putting it in after the paint job though.
2 backyard mechanics and 1 bodyman but you guys will get her done .good job guys
Why can't people just rebuild a car back to its original state with improved safety standards. Why do they think that cutting most of it away to have bigger engines and wheels will make it better, or reshaping it so not to look original. Then they have the audacity to think they still have the same car. When in fact all they have is a manufactured clone maybe!
why do you not show the bad body mounts on your new car????????
Engines sit forward in those Birds , even with the 430 you could see a good part of the bellhousing and even the tranny.
This takes me back to the 60's when me and my buds would spent our weekends swapping engines. Brought back alot of memories. Thanks. Ontario fan
Chad with the shifter opening being longer opening at the back, that will leave you room if you have to take the transmission out by it self. Bob from Fresno, calif.
Engines fitting well , great Job 👍
Great team effort getting the 351 and trans into the Thunderbird!
Hundreds of thousands of old men around North America are enjoying life doing this stuff every day : )
Great engine for this car. Will make a dependable ride for Chad and Jolene.
Chad having reservations about cutting a hole in trans tunnel is funny stuff.he will have a heart attack when he starts on the 46 .hes going to have holes big enough to stick his head in,up past his elbows.
love your dog ,it's like he wants to help also! lol One of the best engines ever made , so I heard umpteen yrs ago! I want to watch every little detail lol ( love learning) and love everything about cars ! Fine job you guys and Jolene too!!
Mint day outside, we had rain all Summer here in NZ
chad when I use the leveling bar on the engine I use the correct socket and a drill motor to tilt the engine the engine where I want it for your FYI . Bob from Fresno, calif. Good Luck.
Everybody should have a Doug on the pay roll, why doesn’t he get a mic?
FINA said I had enough! That was cute when got up and walked away just her expression was priceless (awesome dog) I am sure if this is the same transmission as cobra Mr.Shelby turn the shifter backwards again I am not sure if it is the style of trans ????? It was to see everyone helping you with the car.👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
You're going to cook the steering box with the header. Add you'll have to have a drive shaft built. Pull the plug!! Use the 352 and save yourself the headache. I'm not sure the manual transmission fits the build of a customized square bird. .
it would be cool if you could find a 50s 430 CID engine(around 400hp) for this, prob the best big block of that era IMO. But this 351 seems on the level. =D
A LS3 would be fun.
well the LS is not a Ford. and i think they are a little overdone on builds these days. But they are easy to find and reliable-ish cheap HP.
Chad, I am an old broken down retired LUE OVAL Certified Ford Mechanic, What you need is a 1986 Ford Mustang GT 5 -speed Tranny, they have a shift rail that extends toward the rear of the tailshaft, the transmission you have is for a ranger truck., Joel Lovelace
Good choice of engine, great performance comes with 351
Put a small level on that carb plate. You may need to jack up the rear of the transmission
I put the trans on a transmission dolly and lower the engine down to mate the two. But I am working by myself.
Original 352 is same bore and stroke as the 351. The original transmission is a Cruiseomatic, much the same as the FMX. Shouldn't be any issues.
Bad Chad your forest fire smoke is all the way down here in Milford Delaware. US.
Quite a task putting the motor and transmission but you'll get it place..you got your shop inspector..FINA walking about...cyas tomorrow
Good Lord Chad please get some Milwaukee battery wrenches! This hand ratchet stuff is killing me!! still love you guys
Doug is worth his weight in gold. He's a keeper.
Hey Chad I think you should drill a hole through the floor approximately where you think the shifter is with an 8th inch drill bit look underneath see where you are in relation to that and then cut accordingly
That's a little motor these Tbirds had Y blocks and Fe blocks big motors. They used automatic transmissions .putting a 5 speed manual is going to be fun