$913.88....in BRITAIN.....WITHOUT stand or drive. Its expensive. To put that into perspective I can upgrade my PC to a USED 5800X3D AND a USED RX6900XT for that.
I cannot justify spending $700+ on a system refresh with minimal upgrades and feature cutbacks, especially with the way Sony has been running itself lately. By all means, people can go out and buy whatever they want if they can afford it, but I believe $700 can be better spent elsewhere these days in this economy.
I think it’s too expensive but that’s just my opinion which I’m entitled to. How do I fee about people that want to buy the PS5? I couldn’t care less! If you afford it then fair play to you. It’s your money and you are free to spend it on whatever you want. That’s how I see it.
@@TordanPidgesater Yeah, I get that, and it's a good phone, but my point is you need that phone, and adding more money to get a better one can let you take better pictures or videos of things you see during a trip, to use an example, or let you have more space for them, edit video faster, or do a lot of useful things on the go. You can spend more money on a better car, and maybe now the car has line assist, park assist, and it's a lot more safer, so you can avoid spending money because or small mistakes, or, NOT F*CKING DIE in a car accident. This is why the comparison between phone, cars and gaming consoles are so dumb. If you want compare a gaming console to something that you may spend a lot of money on, that's a computer (like a PC or laptop, because technically a console is a computer), because both do gaming, but then again, in 2024 you need a computer because it does far more than a console. No one needs a console.
I thought this was going to be a troll/ironic kind of video, but this Reddit mod is serious, lol...lmao even. Embarrassing. $700 Before tax No disc drive* No stand No games *Digital, so if your account gets hacked and/or banned, all of your games and little ecosystem are gone. YOU are a part of the problem.
@@DribbleP Can you mod your Ps5 games? Can you access your video and music library from your phone, secondary PC or friends phone? Can you record music on your Ps5? Can you pick and choose level of detail settings? Can you run 4k without upscaling? What about additional storage drives, of any variety? What about older games(not even taking emulation into account) or mouse and keyboard support. It'd be hard to match the performance at $700, maybe impossible, but $700 is a good start and you could match the normal Ps5 for $700 easy and then upgrade it down line, especially after the launch of the next GPU generation when prices go down on the last gen. $700 seems excessive for something you're locked into and only plays games.
Not expensive for a launch system with hardware that matches the price, but expensive for a mid gen refresh where the jump isn't as big and when there should be a price decrease and value propositions for the current console but we're getting the opposite.
@@sirvern7825 PS5 400$ and PS5 Pro 600$ would be more reasonable but honestly the pro shouldn't exist. They should just release PS6 a year earlier and game optimisation should just prioritise one mode and make it as good as it can be instead of slapping on half baked poorly optimised band aid solution of ugly af performance mode or laggy af quality modes. Options are NOT always better.
@@Airinas96so you want a high end pc near perfect 4k locked at 60fps with r.t for 600 with a 2 tb ssd 😂😂 are you deluded go make a pc with that with the same specs and 2tb storage
@@DribbleP Like I said the pro shouldn't even exist and PS5 games should prioritise frame rate and sharpness displayed in the pro showcase with reduced graphics quality. Ray tracing is too expensive to be worth using in the first place.
@@DribbleP According to Cerny, no, since the PS5 audience prefers Performance modes "three-quarters of the time" over Fidelity modes. In other words, audiences are fine with high performance targets at lower resolutions and graphical cuts. The Pro is a product for developers and enthusiasts, but doesn't reflect what the majority of customers want.
It is expensive. You are talking about a console at £780 (with disc drive) in the UK when we are facing more energy price hikes like the rest of Europe and record highs with inflation. They are going to launch this targetting families for Christmas, aiming for children. Personally, I'll keep my PS5 standard and use my 4090 to smoke this. So its got nothing to do with being able to afford it, I just don't like being insulted by Sony when they want me to spend this sort of money for what is a minor upgrade. Now, had they pushed the VR2 I would be all over it, becuase that paper weight is sitting here gathering dust.
Offering different levels of a product is not insulting. If you don't want it, no problem. The base PS5 is amazing. The PSVR2 DOES need more games. And different genres of games. That I agree with you with.
@polishdude001 I'm more "logical" than those people you think are logical, and I'll tell you right now... worth is based on opinion. Everyone is trying to compare apples and oranges.. PC vs Pro cost and Yada Yada Yada... what about Pro vs. phone, or Pro vs VR, or Pro vs. an Arcade cabinet that plays 1 lousy game and costs thousands of dollars? I see people every day walking around with those ridiculous apple headphones that cost almost $600 .... again... worth is based on opinion. No one can win this debate. That's why it will go on for years.
@@Nick-mq9vz the pro is for the hardcore gamers that want the best gaming experience avaiable on a console .... This dont need to sell more than the base ps5 or move every ps5 owner to ps5 pro ..... you think the iphone pro max is for every iphone owner ? Most people buy the base iphone You need a better example ....can you justify the existance of the 4090 ? That card is almost 2000 and at max settings 4k it only have over 20 fps more than the 4080 and the 4080 has roughly 10 to 20 fps more on some games over the 4070 .... so whats the point in having multiple gpus that can all play the same game with barely 20 to 40 fps boost ...keep in mind they are priced at 700/1200/1800 ...so ? Its options its an option for who can afford and want the best and most out of their experience .....it could be a phone a pc a gpu or even a car Have a good day man 👍
@@daverock9091 dumbest comment I've heard. Keep falling for that trick and we will all be paying double in the near future. You have been well and truly conned.
It IS that expensive. 700 dollars for a gaming system. It might not be expensive for you but for the vast majority of people it certainly is if you pay attention. Also a phone is expensive but my job and a bunch of other peoples job requires a smart phone- not to mention it’s almost crucial to own a smart phone living in the modern world to keep in touch with family and friends- a playstation 5 is not. Look beyond your fanatism.
Not to mention most people don’t go out and buy a phone full price on the spot- they are leased and sold on bundles or deals along with payment plans- that people go for since it’s their only way to afford a phone. Oh and 700 dollars is affordable to people in america with a decent job- but not for the rest of the world my friends in mexico have really good jobs and a ps5 pro is absolutely unaffordable for most of them. It’s overpriced and aimed at a very niche audience.
it's NOT that expensive. basic iphone is expensive, everything in tech is more expensive. new nvidia gpus are way over 1k and only 20% faster than last gen. this is 200$ more than ps5 base and you get 4k60 aim.
@@HiCZoK That explains why Hogwarts Legacy ran at 30 FPS when they showed it off. The 60 FPS has always been a lie and will always be from the console manufacturers. It will be the PS4 Pro again, offering 30 for the "nice graphics option" and a staggered 40-60 for the few everything else that is "upgraded" Expect close to 60 fps from First Party, and then a half assed port with old Ray Tracing tech and locked/sub 30 fps from everyone else. Just for a $250+ price increase this time around instead of a $100 one. Keep in mind new Nvidia GPUs that you claim are priced higher blow the PS5 and Pro out of the water in terms of performance. Sony always moves towards "grafix" over performance, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. The PS5 Pro demo proves it.
The problem is that it's bad value for the price. It's close to $900 with tax and all the upgrade but can do a fraction what a $900 pc can. Not to mention you still have to pay monthly subscription to play online whereas it's free on pc. Also a pc can do so much more than just play games and pc games are much much cheaper. The reason nobody speak positively about it because there's nothing positive to talk about.
@JamJam0189 I don't think is a big risk for Sony. For it to be so expensive it probably means Sony are pulling a Nintendo here and not subsidizing the hardware. This means that they don't really care whether it sells well or not since they aren't taking a risk on it. I think they just treat it as something extra that raises their value to a certain demographic while still seeing the normal PS5 as the hardware they really want people to get.
Well the can do a fraction of what a $900 PC can to is debatable because you assume people that will want this are interested on other factions of a PC and not just games. Someone that only cares about having a gaming device can find this as a better bargain since a 900 PC won't be as powerful even though it can have more factions.
In the US is expensive but not that hard of a buy, in the EU, Britain and Japan is just a hard buy. In the US it feels like is a little too much for a console but in other places it feels like is too much in general.
@Codyslx because a ps5 pro its a fucking console bro lmao, Playstation it's console videogame and media ecosystem, nobody it's saying ps5 it's a fucking pc gaming lol, we are saying that it will move games like a pc gaming not that it will be a pc gaming bro
IKR these people are brain dead. pC iS ToO EpEnSiVe ......goes out and buys a OG model then a Limited edition model and a Pro LOL. Console only people will always be plebs.
Well that is a $5000 PC. So a very expensive machine, not just any PC. Of course with all the money he pays for games and consoles he could built one but it means he will have to not get all those games he enjoys etc and that is i assume a sacrifice he doesn't want to do therefore he considers it as not being able to afford the $5000 PC even though technically he could.
When is everyone going to learn? ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRICE OF THE PRO, ITS ABOUT THE VALUE YOUR GETTING FOR THE PRICE WHICH IS PURE GARBAGE. ITS A SCAM AND A RIPOFF FOR WHAT YOUR GETTING FOR MY 1000$ (HERE IN CANADA) I'D RATHER SPEND ANOTHER 1500$ AND GET A GOOD GAMEING PC THAN SPEND A GRAND ON A CONSOLE THAT STILL WILL BE NOT BE OPTIMIZED TO RUN EVERYTHING AT 60 FPS, ESPECIALLY SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A PS5. THIS WILL BE MY LAST CONSOLE AND SONY IS A COMPLETE DUMSTER FIRE. I CANT BELIEVE ITS 2024 AND WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT GAMES NOT BEING ABLE TO RUN AT 60FPS ON CONSOLE. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC
Totally agree with you. Its so much less than what you pay for a phone or a tablet these days like you said. I think the price overall is like a $300 markup at the end of the day because it doesn't include a disc drive or stand which is silly. But some of that is offset by the higher performance, double the internal storage, and AstroBoat which is like $60.
Haha these clowns saying $700 is fine because we’re told it’s ok for it to cost that much. These idiots allow companies like Apple, Nvidia and Sony to thrive.
@@jgunner94 correct. Consoles have always been aimed at gamers who can’t afford high end PC’s. Charging that sort of price, then pushing digital games, not including a cheap ass plastic stand is pretty much unacceptable. The only reason Sony have taken this business route is probably because of all the money they lost on concord, and let’s be real they haven’t had any decent 1st party games in ages. Essentially greed
You act like $700 is actually all it cost. You can't ignore that monthly fee if you want to play online, the absurdly priced games, the complete removal of components a $200 cheaper version offers and the fact Sony gets substantially more money from games compared to pc. Their fees are why consoles have historically been sold at a loss. Not only that, it has been 4 years and there still hasn't been a reduction in the cost of this gen of consoles. We are at a point when you can spend very similar money building a pc and get ps5 pro performance with cheaper games, no monthly fee to play online and freedom to use you pc to do other things. It's $700(+ tax and don't forget the disk drive) for a proprietary locked down pc that requires a monthly paid service to fully use that also denies you the ability to use it for anything else. You buy it, stop trying to convince others to not be smart with their money.
I’m getting the Pro because I’m used to having the best out. I also plan to surprise my cousin and her child’s father on welcoming their first child together by gifting them my Slime
I think most of the problem indeed stems from things not going down in price. I never bought a PS4. When I wanted to buy a PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro was anounced, so I waited for that one. It was especially nice, because when it released, it got the price of the original PS4 and the PS4 (Slim) was reduced. It's not so much the (relative) difference between the PS5 and the Pro, but because the PS5 doesn't get a price-reduction, the PS5 Pro gets a price bump. And gets hardware pulled out of it (disc drive). I expected, with the consideration that things have become more expensive, the Pro to be max 650€ with the disc drive included. A disc drive in my country is around 120€. And I need a disc drive, because most my games are physical. Same for the PSVR2, just way too expensive at the moment. I could live with it during it's initial release, as I wasn't in a hurry. But I expected a bit of a price reduction when the Pro will be released. I don't own a PS5, and if the Pro doesn't get a pricetag that is more affordable for me, I will be skipping this generation. And probably quit console gaming all together, if this money-hungry business is keeping that trend. Then I'll enjoy my PS3, PS4 and PSVita for the remainder (maybe even my PS1 and PS2). I borrowed a (digital) PS5 from my nephew the last 2 weeks. And although it is nice, especially the controller, I'm not that much impressed with the game-offerings, that would make me want to spend that much money, while I can still even enjoy my PS3 and PS4 games. The PS5 Pro is for me, but not just at that price. I'm unfortunate enough to be in a situation that I can't generate a decent income. Gaming was kind of an escape for me, but now even that isn't on the table anymore. [Btw: Not as a stab at you, but those 'stop being poor' jokes people are making the last few years, are really disgusting and disrespectful. It shows how out of touch people are and how ignorant they are about the world and/or their neighbourhood. That in a society that claims to care about everyone and everything. here is nothing funny about being poor... and no, it's not a choice! It just shows people can't see past their own life and experiences.]
@@JustAnotherGamer1005 I can understand that! I think there are some great games for PS5, just not enough exclusives. True exclusives. If you do end up wanting one, you can get a used PS5 at a decent rate.
After the PSN outage yesterday, I WOULD NOT suggest getting a digital PS anything! Physical games may be a dying format, but it sure comes in handy when the network is down! 😉 Good video, by the way.
So pay 700 for games you’ve already played. Now with better frame rates. I’ll pass. Don’t preach other people about what’s expensive what’s not expensive. If you want to buy go ahead.
The PS5 Pro drama is blown out of proportion, and i’m saying this as an Xbox fan. It’s exactly the price i had expected it to be. If you have a fairly good tv and you can afford it… go for it!
@@supermugiboy not dumb. You CAN buy a $200 dollar smart phone. But you CHOOSE to buy a better phone. I doubt you go on the phone manufacturers website and leave negative comments about their PRO phones. Haha come on
@@sirvern7825 And there it is the contradiction that shows you up to be a hypocrite, you could buy a ps5 yet you choose to buy the ps5 pro just because Sony say it’s better. Do you always believe what companies who are after your money say 🤔
Well XBOX or now "Microsoft Gaming" started destroying itself first and melting away with every month this year with bad news following more bad news so...... at this piont Sony can do the Hell they want to do....
@@sirvern7825 that bad for all gamers no matter your platform!!! I have been watching the "console wars" for 25 years and i can say that's sad to see what the gaming industry have become! And this is only this company's fault.... it really feels like i am just watching a sinking ship at this point...
The $700 price point isn't the issue; it's the value proposition. The PS5 Pro isn't worth $700 because it doesn't offer $700 in investment. You brought up expensive phones, and you're right-they're pricey, but they provide significantly more value to consumers. The same applies to PCs. You could build a $700 PC, but with a bit more investment, you’d get far greater value. The PS5 Pro feels similar to Apple's VR solution, which is outrageously priced and a complete flop.
You are paying for the "plug and play" experience easy solution and a system that will work for you for 5 years it's not if it worth it or not.... if that was the case apple would be out business many,many years ago with their disgusting prices
Agree and disagree with some things you said but the main reason why so many have a problem with it is ultimately the price and what it offers over the base PS5. I dont think the reveal with Mark Cerny was very good, they showed mostly first party games we have played and beat. FF7 Rebirth was the only game that stood out the most as looking improved. Look at how Nvidia reveal their new GPU's they show collaborations with transformative visuals or build a demo that blows your mind showing the things the faster more powerful product can do. Lastly the PC comparison. It's too damn close to building a PC that can offer similar if not better level of power with more mature features and thats a PC which can do way more than consoles can, even if you were to focus on just gaming. $1000 RTX 4070 PC. I don't blame you for wanting to buy it, I get it, I bought a 4090 day one lol. These are enthusiast level products but for consoles that can be a harder sell.
I have a very similar look on all this, I still have a ps2 ps3, ps4 pro and ps5 I work on my own systems, have duplicates of systems to replace parts etc. and I don’t plan on buying a ps6 either if it goes full digital. So technically the ps5 pro could very well be the last system I ever own. I’ll be considered a “retro” gamer.
If the PS5 Pro can do 1440p 60FPS, HDR, Raytracing, and at high settings. Then $800 including the disc drive is justified. I have a RTX 4070 Super which cost $600, this card is capable of doing of what the PS5 Pro can do. But with the PC I have to have a monitor, CPU, PSU, motherboard, RAM, CPU Cooler, Computer Case, windows 10 license etc. this is gonna cost more than +$1500. Not only it’s more expensive, there’s a lot of technical no how, a bit of troubleshooting etc. sometimes people just want to pay for a dedicated plug and play console, buy the game and begin playing and not have to deal with a PC. A lot of people just see the price and not think about okay, why is it that price and what can it do that the PS5 can’t do. (it can fix FF7 Rebirth Performance mode for example) the PS5 Pro is not for everyone but for the dedicated PlayStation users who would love to harness the power of higher frame rates, raytracing, better render distances, sharper image quality with PSSR.
@@RichyLBE I did say it's expensive and not for everyone. But a powerful console with 2 TB of storage isn't going to be cheap. How much would be acceptable to you?
Sony milks you so hard jacking up the price of everything and you can't defend it. I bought a pc, and I am sticking with it. Sony refuses to drop prices stop releasing games. This generation is a bust. Millions of dollars wasted turns into milking consumers. Ps5 pro doesn't need to cost that much. Sony doesnt want to lose money on console sales. Controller sales and everything. They jack all the prices up and you defend it.
@@sirvern7825 The issue with ps5 pro is it has newest gpu generation in it for high ray tracing. So at the moment we are waiting for amd to release that generation to the public. It's called rdna 4 or rx 8000. Intel releasing cheaper gpu and nvidia will need to compete. Cpu hasn't changed and 3700x is cheap. You can build a pc close to ps5 pro. It's not about money for why I don't buy Sony. It's principle when you mess up you don't jack up the price of psn to play online controllers that have stick drift still cost 5 more dollars. Meanwhile they could add hall joysticks. Sony doesn't care about adding value only price to everything they have. Only reason they drop price of psvr2. Because people refuse to buy it. It's crazy how if you didn't buy it and told them no. You would get it cheaper. You just accept it meanwhile sony says we can charge this much because they have no competition. So it's up to consumers to fight against the price.
@dkozzzbeatz8079 Back when ps3 was that much, it had a built-in ps2. They raised the price of everything recently. Please use common sense and do your research.
I bought an LG C9 because it had 4 hdmi 2.1 ports on it. I was future proofing for the PS5 and Series X. By the way I still use this TV with no burn in.
For those of you who don’t want to video edit 3d work or anything like that you can make a really good pc for even under 600 bucks of pure performance and you can always torrent games on pc
a 2tb SSD is almost 200. I was also looking to get a second console, so this is great news. Gonna have to get a new monitor as well. I think the PSSR visuals are going to vary based on the development teams. FFVII Rebirth looks awesome with the atmospheric glow. Hogwarts Legacy looked super fancy with its reflections. A sizeable portion of my library are retro style games, with chunky pixels. Not expecting much out of those. It would be interesting to see a PS4 era Souls game running on PS5 pro.
Where are you buying your ssd's from? There are many really good nvme ssd's well under $150 and closer to $120. I paid $110 for my 2tb 990pro. Sales happen all the time but sub $150 ssd's are every day. lol
@mrcrunch8000 Not with the speeds you need. Plus, this is their custom chip on the mobo. They recommend at minimum a 5500mb/s nvme. And most just say up to that get cheap. The recommended is 7200mb/s as the raw minimum speed of the internal nvme on the mobo is 5500mb/s. Also, what aren't people complaining about the 2tb series x that cost $600, without performance gains?
@@aaronsmith7143 Those exact speeds are met in the price range I mentioned. In addition to that the built in ssd doesn't even meet 7200mb/s. Google is your friend and almost across the board all ps5's show between 5500-6500mb/s. That's exactly why all tests using drives with 5500mb/s speeds perform just like the internal drive. You should look in to it a bit so you understand what is going on and understand why some drives rated even slower show zero loss in performance. It isn't all about sequential speeds either. Now with your xbox comment, people did complain and not only did they complain they didn't buy it. Let's also not forget the disc drive and the fact the series x uses a more expensive apu than the ps5. Even if the pro uses the same node the die size would be very similar to the die size of the apu in the series x.
I understand the argument that of being invested in an ecosystem, however it's just one system that doesn't rely on other things like say Apple. You do not have to sell your PlayStation, it isn't like you'd lose what games you already have. Also people who make enough money can do whatever they want with their money sure. But the value of spending just a little more on a $1000 gaming build is insanely better. Backwards compatibility is a non-issue. The game library of PC is unmatched, even more so if you count emulation for older consoles and that Sony is bringing their IPs to PC. Upgrading a single piece at a time depending on what aspect you're looking to improve or repair is a more flexible consumer friendly system. Desktops can be used for work, notes, web browsing, more powerful content creation, having an offline music/video/image/game library, way more storage space and options, multi window tasking, etc. If you argue that price is no downside for the person that can afford it then PC is the epitome of that, if you wanna spend money you can, if you don't you don't have to. There are people with $150 gtx 1060 cards made in 2016 that can run the brand new Warhammer game.
I agree! Many are fast to drop a grand over a phone when theirs last year works just fine, but then like to complain about having options just like is happening now with the Pro. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy them.
People who say, just buy a PC, just don't understand what it's like to be in an ecosystem. I have 125 games, that includes 17 games in my backlog and more than that in my replay pile not to mention PS+ extra. So ~40-50 or so games I have at no added cost. That's years of games I'd have to rebuy on PC if i went to PC making PC more expensive.
You do not need a 120hz tv to get a benefit from the PS5 Pro. Any game that has an improved resolution or clarity will still look better on any 4K TV. Also, the PS6 will absolutely offer a disc drive. It will just be optional like it is with the Pro. Sony is not going to walk away from 25% of their customers who still want physical games. They will offer them an option.
You are paying $700 for something a $300 GPU does MUCH BETTER! They also make you pay $80 for a Disk Drive? Meaning it is one more step towards the day that you can only buy digital, which you don't own, and they can update at any time, taking features out?.... People defending this makes me sick to my stomach. Actually making Video Games worse.
I know people who were planning to wait until the PS5 Pro dropped and they've changed their minds when they saw the price, and will be getting a regular PS5 or Slim instead. Consider the fact that in some markets, it is already over $950 without Taxes, like it is in Canada. Going all in with the stand and disc drive brings it at around $1100 CND! So yes, it is expensive, and it edges out potential customers in markets like these. Sony isn't doing themselves any favours.
I am getting one. I play with lg c1 oled on my desk and 4k really shows. Anything but that terrible fsr2. Difference is there. Promise of 4k60 / less modes IS that good. it's all we asked for. it's only 200$ more than base ps5. Inflation really devalued the money. 700 is not that much nowadays. Especially for americans. EU is 800 euro + 120 eu for disc drive... and I already ordered one
You have a point, I bought PS5 on launch also, then upgraded with 1TB WD SN850 when Sony started to release the firmware to enable M.2 slot. That M.2 SSD I bought for $230. I think many other UA-camrs acknowledged that many hardcore audiences will buy the PS5 Pro no matter what, it's just the average gamers may turn off such high price. We already have a mindset that console should always be value-oriented and now the PS5 Pro seems to break that trend. This is not the 1st time Sony did this, we know the PS3 launch history but that console comes with many features unusual for a console at the time (HDMI port, bluray disc drive, multimedia card reader, bluetooth, hdd, wi-fi, etc.). I expect PS5 Pro will do just fine in terms of sales, it may not sell as well the base model but i'm not expecting it to be a failure. Spending $700 for a mid-gen refresh for slightly better tree model in Spiderman or smoother framerate in Fidelity mode is not gonna entice many gamers. The base model PS5 seems run just fine and that's what matters. Future games will surely push the PS5 Pro more, I expect games like FF16, Stellar Blade, and Black Myth Wukong will have a patch to utilize that extra horsepower for better details and framerate. For me I will wait and see what more PS5 Pro can offer in the future.
In Australia it’s 1199+150+50 for the disc drive and stand, and ps+ which is 100-200 a year and it would be cheaper for me to upgrade my cpu, motherboard and ram… ps5 pro is expensive.
@SirVerm What do you mean they can't fully utilise the system? Do you think The PS5 Pro will play all new titles in native 4K 60fps? If you think you can go native 4K quality mode above 60fps on pro that means one thing... you're wrong!
@@AdIBaR86 it won't play every title perfectly but it will play some older titles better and new titles better. If you don't have a HDMI 2.1 display then you can do any higher than 60 fps anyway
Honestly, I think people are making a bigger deal out of it and it needs to be. I think it’s probably because bad news gets clicks and they just need something to talk about. Of course I would like to have the system cheaper but I understand that our money isn’t worth what it used to be. I know that I used to be able to get chuck roast for about 3$ a pound and now it’s about 7$ a pound I could list a ton of other things that have gone up in price including in my business we have about 3000 SKUs and for the past couple years, we haven’t been able to maintain the same price on anything because every time we re-order the price is going up. I think I’ll probably pick one of these up like you. Playstation is probably my platform of choice I have a PS5 in my living room, and a PS5 in my bedroom, I’ll probably sell the one in my bedroom and put money towards a Pro. Nice to hear somebody that can have their own opinion. I’ll give you a sub.
here in Australia the console is going to cost $1200 now a stand cost $49.95 and a disk drive cost $160 so all up thats $1410. i got my PS5 on day one back in 2020 for $750 they now cost $799. now i converted the money of $700 US to Australian and that would bring the price to $1050.26 but they are charging us $1200. i am sorry sony its not worth it i will start saving for the PS6 god knows its going to cost an arm and a leg
I'm with you I game every day on my console. People are over reacting. Not to mention I can get at least $200 for my PS5 that brings the cost down to $500. I don't need a disc drive
Someone that uses logic. Rare on social media nowa days. People jump on trends. Negativity sells. I put in atleast 1000 hours on playstation each year (that yearly stats they send out) So its a easy buy for me. They shouldve added the stand though. Simply for convenience.
People also jump on trends of having the latest and greatest tech. Also if negativity sells then I guess my opinion isn't real even though it's how I really feel. This current thing where if you have an opposing opinion, you're just a grifter.
So glad I future proofed my PC build years ago. Sabertooth X99 maxed out running a 3090TI. Built it right before prices skyrocketed. This is my last Xbox and Sony Console gen. I'm good with the PC and whatever Nintendo drops. Can you image? A 1000+ dollar PS6 system is going to push prices to the moon.
I've been waiting almost 3 years for the PS5 PRO to switch from my PS4 (almost day 1). Maybe worth it to wait 2 or 3 more years and spend 1.000,00 eur on the PS6.
There's also a premium for what will now be definitively the king of the castle as far as graphics concerned in the console arena. The same thing happens with graphics cards there's always an additional premium for the top card which is now the 4090, compared to the 4080 super for example.
I've never spent a dime on Fortnight, and I have only purchased about 3-4 special editions in my entire life, the most expensive one being 100 dollars which came with a ton of stuff. I already have a PS5 and there is just no compelling reason to buy a PS5 pro at 700 dollars without a disc drive. It's not that I can't afford it, it is just a bad idea. I collect new consoles, and I would have purchased a PS5 pro just like I purchased a PS4 pro if the price difference were between 50-100 dollars, and it came with a disc drive. I am not buying less for more. I don't know who Sony is marketing the PS5 Pro to, but I suspect it is not life-long gaming fans who understand value propositions.
@@sirvern7825 You could be right, but I am very skeptical that this will be successful relative to other PlayStation models. Maybe I am wrong and there are enough people who think this is a good idea; I guess we will see. I am an enthusiast and I usually buy every console. This will be the first hard pass for me.
$700 is too expensive. Sony has tried pricing like this in the past (the original PS3 model) and it did not go well for them. That old quote seems relevant here... Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
I spent $3000 dollars on my GPU last year and Ill spend that again in a few months when the 5090 drops. Im really not that bothered about $700 bucks to play GTA 6 when that drops until its released on PC.
I spare no expense when it comes to gaming. However, this one is a pass. I will just put the $800 or so with Disc Drive towards a 5090 when I change over from a 4090.
@@darianjohnson2556 I think so. But I'm not entirely sure. I had one in my cart yesterday but I hesitated cuz I wasn't 100% sure. They need to be more clear about that
The PS5 Pro, buying the disk drive and stand in Sout Korea, is well over a million ₩. Rent, in some apartments is even cheaper than buying this with features that an upgrade should already have.
it is expensive for what they offering, I been PS fan since the PS1 and always have been, but beeing a fan doesnt mean Im blind and dont have common sense,
One thing people don't take into perspective is that you can still enjoy and play PS5 games buying a regular PS5. The PS5 Pro is for people who are willing to pay the extra money to get a mild graphics upgrade. You don't HAVE to buy it to play PS5 games. Is it too much money? Yes. Is it that big of a deal? No. It would be a COMPLETELY different story if the base PS5 was $700. With all that being said, if they made the PS5 Pro in a similar vein as the launch PS3 where it was backward compatible with all previous gens, I don't think everybody would've complained. Can you imagine if PS5 Pro could play PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 AND PS5 games? That would've been incredible.
I was watching one of these videos last night talking bad on the PS5 Pro but they said they paid $200 over asking price back when the PS5 was hard to get after launch. He had not regrets with that. But was flipping out over the Pro. Make it make sense. I am looking forward to the Pro because I wanted a second PS5 anyways.
Look i don't really care about this whole thing that much since i haven't owned a playstation console since ps2. Your video popped up in my feed randomly and i just want to say that i like how you're responding to critics, this might be an elaborate troll/rage bait.
@@pouf-dk3nq Thanks for stopping by! And I believe everything I said. I don't think it's THAT insane of a price. And for those that aren't happy with it there are other options to play PS5. Like the base PS5.
@@sirvern7825 2 things that people complain about the PS5 Pro basically. I wouldn't buy it anyway, my last home console was the PS2. I just don't have room or am I willing to use my money to have a console setup.
I think the Pro is shooting for 4k 60 on games not 4k 120. I'm not sure if that's what you meant but it sounded like it when you were talking about capable tv's. On the PS5 if you're going native 4k you're usually doing 30 fps. So people with 4k tv's or monitors that top out at 60fps will definitely benefit from a PS5 Pro.
I skipped ps3, and ps4, but bought a ps4 pro so I could play dead or alive 6. Likewise, I bought a ps5 (2 years in) so I could play Hogwarts Legacy. I don't yet know if there will be a game I want so bad it compels me to buy the ps5 pro.
I totally agree. It is not cheap but it is also not outrageously pricey. My PC cost 6000 Euros (Which is about 6300 USD) and that is actually just the PC tower itself. No monitor, peripherals etc. Comparing the PS5 Pro to that price and one realizes that it is dirt cheap. Granted, my PC is A LOT more powerful and versatile. But a person who doesnt need a PC and still wants a very high quality gaming experience? Get the PS5 Pro.
considering you can still buy a regular ps5 cheaper and play the same games, its not that bad. xbox series s will get you the latest games even cheaper. ps1 adjusted for inflation was like $620 at launch and there was no cheaper option for the latest games back then.
I love PlayStation as-well. It'll be funny to see people change their minds about the Pro when GTA6 comes out. I promise you that game won't see a PC release for years to come. I purchased a 4070 for the same price as PS5 Pro. As crazy as it might sound I think the PS5 Pro does have a bit of value to it. (If you have 4K displays) You can't build a PC at a similar price that can do 4K 60FPS (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) Also, gaming is an expensive hobby, even retro gaming if you like original hardware. I get that $700 is ridiculous but people shouldn't be surprised. Everything in gaming is expensive now, and if you really don't like the Pro then the original PS5 is still a really good and (some what) affordable option.
Had Sony sold the Pro with a built in disc drive they would face way less scrutiny. Buzz words like “up to” and “could do”, means you probably won’t see the benefits of the improved GPU. Btw CPU unchanged.
I think the price would be fair if it was not the fact it's the same hardware, just updated from 7nm to 5nm giving keeper cooling/Room for overlocking. The past, we would see something that is the same but updated cheaper or more are less the same price. Now we see a refresh passed of as so called pro model and the base model marked up.
personally I think the price would have been easier to stomach if it were $700 WITH the disc drive. At least offer a $750 bundle to make the drive slightly cheaper. but yeah there was no way this was going to be cheap unfortunately, with the current market where we are seeing sony RAISE prices of base ps5s around the world. Hopefully closer to release there's more of a value proposition in terms of supported software. I saw the impressions from john linnenman from DF and kinda convinced me why this console exists. If monster hunter wilds is 60 fps on ps5 pro i'm 200% sold.
I commented something similar on a couple of other videos and will say it here too. Yes, it's expensive. With all of the rumors going around forever, most people were expecting a $600 price tag, so $700 was a shock. If you actually think about EVERYTHING a company or business has to factor into pricing, it's really understandable how Sony arrived at that amount. I'm not trying to makes excuses and I'm not denying that I think it costs more than it should. But if it included a disc drive or it was only $650, it would've been more palatable. Am I getting one? At the moment, no. I may change my mind at some point, but for now, the Pro isn't for me. And I'm okay with that. 🙂
i agree on the PS5 Pro not being that expensive. I have a high end PC with a 4090 that I paid nearly $2000 alone. I just dont see how $700 is all that expensive. I can make 700 or more in just one weekend of overtime.
"When you really break it down, you're buying a gaming pc just with a different operating system" Actually you could buy a 700 dollar pc, and play Sony's games and have free online and even do more than gaming (work/content creation). And this is coming from a PS5 owner.
$913.88....in BRITAIN.....WITHOUT stand or drive. Its expensive. To put that into perspective I can upgrade my PC to a USED 5800X3D AND a USED RX6900XT for that.
Well upgrade your PC then. This isn't something you MUST buy. Come back for more advice
Upgrade your master race machine.
@@wils35 haha it's too old and crappy! I'll save up and get a really good one
@@sirvern7825 upgrade your low effort content
@@KowaiYatsura I'll try! Thanks man
I cannot justify spending $700+ on a system refresh with minimal upgrades and feature cutbacks, especially with the way Sony has been running itself lately.
By all means, people can go out and buy whatever they want if they can afford it, but I believe $700 can be better spent elsewhere these days in this economy.
But you'll buy the same phone every year
@@Kensterrrrr Non-sequitur.
I think $700 would of been fine with a disc drive, stand and dual sense edge.
@@jimmytimber7074 well of course it would. That's nearly $300 worth of hardware.
@@sirvern7825 It costs $300; it isn't worth that.
I think it’s too expensive but that’s just my opinion which I’m entitled to. How do I fee about people that want to buy the PS5? I couldn’t care less! If you afford it then fair play to you. It’s your money and you are free to spend it on whatever you want. That’s how I see it.
@@anthonyburton5814 Good take
Wanna buy me one then, Mr. Moneybags?
Problem is that these generation systems are underpowered. The upgrade is welcome to me.
"Greed has no Limits" - Sony
Brutal haha
Coming from someone with Activision in their name... microtransaction king of greed. Try again.
Yeah, because the price of everything hasn't gone up. Apparently gaming is supposed to be off limits.
"Xbox has no Games" - Microsoft
I have no words for this video.....
This kind of logic is like... duh $700 not that much money compared to buying a house... just keep moving those goalposts.
Terrible argument. But thanks for stopping by!
Exactly, like, a gaming console is not a phone or a car.
@@joseijosei I actually got a brand new $350 samsung a54 and its awesome. It didnt make me want to buy a $700 console with no games.
@@TordanPidgesater Yeah, I get that, and it's a good phone, but my point is you need that phone, and adding more money to get a better one can let you take better pictures or videos of things you see during a trip, to use an example, or let you have more space for them, edit video faster, or do a lot of useful things on the go.
You can spend more money on a better car, and maybe now the car has line assist, park assist, and it's a lot more safer, so you can avoid spending money because or small mistakes, or, NOT F*CKING DIE in a car accident. This is why the comparison between phone, cars and gaming consoles are so dumb. If you want compare a gaming console to something that you may spend a lot of money on, that's a computer (like a PC or laptop, because technically a console is a computer), because both do gaming, but then again, in 2024 you need a computer because it does far more than a console. No one needs a console.
What a dumb comment. Stop commenting, you are terrible at it.
Finally someone had the baIls to say it. This huge shilling campaign against Sony needs to stop ASAP
I thought this was going to be a troll/ironic kind of video, but this Reddit mod is serious, lol...lmao even. Embarrassing.
$700 Before tax
No disc drive*
No stand
No games
*Digital, so if your account gets hacked and/or banned, all of your games and little ecosystem are gone.
YOU are a part of the problem.
Haha ok. Thanks for stopping by!
Go make a pc with the specs of the ps5 pro and what it can do with 2tb ssd storage for 600 😂😂
@@DribbleP
Must defend giant faceless corporation overlords!
*slurp slurp gag slurp slurp*
@@DribbleP Can you mod your Ps5 games? Can you access your video and music library from your phone, secondary PC or friends phone? Can you record music on your Ps5? Can you pick and choose level of detail settings? Can you run 4k without upscaling? What about additional storage drives, of any variety? What about older games(not even taking emulation into account) or mouse and keyboard support. It'd be hard to match the performance at $700, maybe impossible, but $700 is a good start and you could match the normal Ps5 for $700 easy and then upgrade it down line, especially after the launch of the next GPU generation when prices go down on the last gen. $700 seems excessive for something you're locked into and only plays games.
@@sirvern7825 EAD
Not expensive for a launch system with hardware that matches the price, but expensive for a mid gen refresh where the jump isn't as big and when there should be a price decrease and value propositions for the current console but we're getting the opposite.
How much should it cost?
@@sirvern7825 PS5 400$ and PS5 Pro 600$ would be more reasonable but honestly the pro shouldn't exist. They should just release PS6 a year earlier and game optimisation should just prioritise one mode and make it as good as it can be instead of slapping on half baked poorly optimised band aid solution of ugly af performance mode or laggy af quality modes. Options are NOT always better.
@@Airinas96so you want a high end pc near perfect 4k locked at 60fps with r.t for 600 with a 2 tb ssd 😂😂 are you deluded go make a pc with that with the same specs and 2tb storage
@@DribbleP Like I said the pro shouldn't even exist and PS5 games should prioritise frame rate and sharpness displayed in the pro showcase with reduced graphics quality. Ray tracing is too expensive to be worth using in the first place.
@@DribbleP According to Cerny, no, since the PS5 audience prefers Performance modes "three-quarters of the time" over Fidelity modes. In other words, audiences are fine with high performance targets at lower resolutions and graphical cuts. The Pro is a product for developers and enthusiasts, but doesn't reflect what the majority of customers want.
It is expensive. You are talking about a console at £780 (with disc drive) in the UK when we are facing more energy price hikes like the rest of Europe and record highs with inflation. They are going to launch this targetting families for Christmas, aiming for children. Personally, I'll keep my PS5 standard and use my 4090 to smoke this. So its got nothing to do with being able to afford it, I just don't like being insulted by Sony when they want me to spend this sort of money for what is a minor upgrade. Now, had they pushed the VR2 I would be all over it, becuase that paper weight is sitting here gathering dust.
Offering different levels of a product is not insulting. If you don't want it, no problem. The base PS5 is amazing. The PSVR2 DOES need more games. And different genres of games. That I agree with you with.
If you don't like the new Pro's price, best thing to do is not buy it.
@@wils35 exactly! Why be mad about it haha
@@sirvern7825 Ain't nobody mad but you.
@@LiberatedMind1 oh yea. I'm furious
I think all the logical people agree that it’s just not worth what they’re offering. Simple.
@polishdude001 I'm more "logical" than those people you think are logical, and I'll tell you right now... worth is based on opinion. Everyone is trying to compare apples and oranges.. PC vs Pro cost and Yada Yada Yada... what about Pro vs. phone, or Pro vs VR, or Pro vs. an Arcade cabinet that plays 1 lousy game and costs thousands of dollars? I see people every day walking around with those ridiculous apple headphones that cost almost $600 .... again... worth is based on opinion. No one can win this debate. That's why it will go on for years.
This guy is completely wrong. 'Its not for you.' Niether was Concord and look what that did to Sony.
what does concord have to do with the hardware thats the ps5pro lol dude youre for real
@@daverock9091 It's about the price and Sony trying to target an obscure portion of the market that doesn't exist.
@@Nick-mq9vz the pro is for the hardcore gamers that want the best gaming experience avaiable on a console ....
This dont need to sell more than the base ps5 or move every ps5 owner to ps5 pro ..... you think the iphone pro max is for every iphone owner ? Most people buy the base iphone
You need a better example ....can you justify the existance of the 4090 ? That card is almost 2000 and at max settings 4k it only have over 20 fps more than the 4080 and the 4080 has roughly 10 to 20 fps more on some games over the 4070 .... so whats the point in having multiple gpus that can all play the same game with barely 20 to 40 fps boost ...keep in mind they are priced at 700/1200/1800 ...so ?
Its options its an option for who can afford and want the best and most out of their experience .....it could be a phone a pc a gpu or even a car
Have a good day man 👍
@@daverock9091 dumbest comment I've heard. Keep falling for that trick and we will all be paying double in the near future. You have been well and truly conned.
@@Nick-mq9vz dumbest guy i had to talk to .... drive an uber dude 😂
It IS that expensive. 700 dollars for a gaming system. It might not be expensive for you but for the vast majority of people it certainly is if you pay attention. Also a phone is expensive but my job and a bunch of other peoples job requires a smart phone- not to mention it’s almost crucial to own a smart phone living in the modern world to keep in touch with family and friends- a playstation 5 is not.
Look beyond your fanatism.
Not to mention most people don’t go out and buy a phone full price on the spot- they are leased and sold on bundles or deals along with payment plans- that people go for since it’s their only way to afford a phone. Oh and 700 dollars is affordable to people in america with a decent job- but not for the rest of the world my friends in mexico have really good jobs and a ps5 pro is absolutely unaffordable for most of them. It’s overpriced and aimed at a very niche audience.
It sounds like you and your friends should stick with the PS5 digital edition. Let me know if you need any more advice. ;)
I agree. You could have a decent pc for a little more money.
it's NOT that expensive. basic iphone is expensive, everything in tech is more expensive. new nvidia gpus are way over 1k and only 20% faster than last gen.
this is 200$ more than ps5 base and you get 4k60 aim.
@@HiCZoK That explains why Hogwarts Legacy ran at 30 FPS when they showed it off. The 60 FPS has always been a lie and will always be from the console manufacturers. It will be the PS4 Pro again, offering 30 for the "nice graphics option" and a staggered 40-60 for the few everything else that is "upgraded"
Expect close to 60 fps from First Party, and then a half assed port with old Ray Tracing tech and locked/sub 30 fps from everyone else.
Just for a $250+ price increase this time around instead of a $100 one.
Keep in mind new Nvidia GPUs that you claim are priced higher blow the PS5 and Pro out of the water in terms of performance.
Sony always moves towards "grafix" over performance, and that isn't going to change anytime soon. The PS5 Pro demo proves it.
The problem is that it's bad value for the price. It's close to $900 with tax and all the upgrade but can do a fraction what a $900 pc can.
Not to mention you still have to pay monthly subscription to play online whereas it's free on pc.
Also a pc can do so much more than just play games and pc games are much much cheaper.
The reason nobody speak positively about it because there's nothing positive to talk about.
@JamJam0189 I don't think is a big risk for Sony. For it to be so expensive it probably means Sony are pulling a Nintendo here and not subsidizing the hardware.
This means that they don't really care whether it sells well or not since they aren't taking a risk on it.
I think they just treat it as something extra that raises their value to a certain demographic while still seeing the normal PS5 as the hardware they really want people to get.
Well the can do a fraction of what a $900 PC can to is debatable because you assume people that will want this are interested on other factions of a PC and not just games.
Someone that only cares about having a gaming device can find this as a better bargain since a 900 PC won't be as powerful even though it can have more factions.
This video has aged like milk, after a whole day. Neat.
Thanks haha
$699 is £590. £590 isn't that expensive. £699 is $913. So yeah. It's expensive.
In the US is expensive but not that hard of a buy, in the EU, Britain and Japan is just a hard buy.
In the US it feels like is a little too much for a console but in other places it feels like is too much in general.
And a GPU is???
With 700$ you can't even get the RTX 4080 or 4090.....so no it's not that expensive comparing with gaming PCs
The ps5 pro is not a gaming pc. A gaming pc has far more utility than just gaming.
If you are not a gamer..why are you here?
Most people that have gaming Pc don’t even use those “utility’s” don’t lie yourself
@Codyslx because a ps5 pro its a fucking console bro lmao, Playstation it's console videogame and media ecosystem, nobody it's saying ps5 it's a fucking pc gaming lol, we are saying that it will move games like a pc gaming not that it will be a pc gaming bro
@@Blue-jt2wz You mean they are not browsing the Internet?
i do every day, stop capping.
Saying that you can't afford a PC after saying that you have multiple hundreds of PS5 games 😂
Haha good point.
IKR these people are brain dead. pC iS ToO EpEnSiVe ......goes out and buys a OG model then a Limited edition model and a Pro LOL. Console only people will always be plebs.
Well that is a $5000 PC. So a very expensive machine, not just any PC.
Of course with all the money he pays for games and consoles he could built one but it means he will have to not get all those games he enjoys etc and that is i assume a sacrifice he doesn't want to do therefore he considers it as not being able to afford the $5000 PC even though technically he could.
@@SIPEROTHWhat do you mean $5000 PC? Which $5000 PC?
I hope sony is at least paying you for this shilling otherwise this is pathetic
@@yc_030 💰🤑
lol
Pathetic is people like you that they think that other people need to have the same as opinion as you do no matter what....
coping
When is everyone going to learn? ITS NOT ABOUT THE PRICE OF THE PRO, ITS ABOUT THE VALUE YOUR GETTING FOR THE PRICE WHICH IS PURE GARBAGE. ITS A SCAM AND A RIPOFF FOR WHAT YOUR GETTING FOR MY 1000$ (HERE IN CANADA) I'D RATHER SPEND ANOTHER 1500$ AND GET A GOOD GAMEING PC THAN SPEND A GRAND ON A CONSOLE THAT STILL WILL BE NOT BE OPTIMIZED TO RUN EVERYTHING AT 60 FPS, ESPECIALLY SINCE I ALREADY HAVE A PS5. THIS WILL BE MY LAST CONSOLE AND SONY IS A COMPLETE DUMSTER FIRE. I CANT BELIEVE ITS 2024 AND WERE STILL TALKING ABOUT GAMES NOT BEING ABLE TO RUN AT 60FPS ON CONSOLE. ABSOLUTELY PATHETIC
Totally agree with you. Its so much less than what you pay for a phone or a tablet these days like you said. I think the price overall is like a $300 markup at the end of the day because it doesn't include a disc drive or stand which is silly. But some of that is offset by the higher performance, double the internal storage, and AstroBoat which is like $60.
Haha these clowns saying $700 is fine because we’re told it’s ok for it to cost that much.
These idiots allow companies like Apple, Nvidia and Sony to thrive.
I concur
You don’t seem to realise consoles are usually made at a loss so let’s not act like this much for a pro version is unbelievable.
@@jgunner94 the PS5 pro is more than likely sold at cost not at a loss.
@@iroony89 But your initial comment is implying they’re selling them for way more than they’re worth.
@@jgunner94 correct. Consoles have always been aimed at gamers who can’t afford high end PC’s. Charging that sort of price, then pushing digital games, not including a cheap ass plastic stand is pretty much unacceptable. The only reason Sony have taken this business route is probably because of all the money they lost on concord, and let’s be real they haven’t had any decent 1st party games in ages.
Essentially greed
You act like $700 is actually all it cost. You can't ignore that monthly fee if you want to play online, the absurdly priced games, the complete removal of components a $200 cheaper version offers and the fact Sony gets substantially more money from games compared to pc. Their fees are why consoles have historically been sold at a loss. Not only that, it has been 4 years and there still hasn't been a reduction in the cost of this gen of consoles. We are at a point when you can spend very similar money building a pc and get ps5 pro performance with cheaper games, no monthly fee to play online and freedom to use you pc to do other things. It's $700(+ tax and don't forget the disk drive) for a proprietary locked down pc that requires a monthly paid service to fully use that also denies you the ability to use it for anything else. You buy it, stop trying to convince others to not be smart with their money.
To me, it's just not worth $700. I can afford that price tag, but to me, it's not WORTH that price.
@@Azav312 I can respect that
Honest comment and I'm doing the same and completely agree.
I’m getting the Pro because I’m used to having the best out. I also plan to surprise my cousin and her child’s father on welcoming their first child together by gifting them my Slime
I think most of the problem indeed stems from things not going down in price.
I never bought a PS4. When I wanted to buy a PS4 Slim, PS4 Pro was anounced, so I waited for that one. It was especially nice, because when it released, it got the price of the original PS4 and the PS4 (Slim) was reduced. It's not so much the (relative) difference between the PS5 and the Pro, but because the PS5 doesn't get a price-reduction, the PS5 Pro gets a price bump. And gets hardware pulled out of it (disc drive).
I expected, with the consideration that things have become more expensive, the Pro to be max 650€ with the disc drive included. A disc drive in my country is around 120€. And I need a disc drive, because most my games are physical.
Same for the PSVR2, just way too expensive at the moment. I could live with it during it's initial release, as I wasn't in a hurry. But I expected a bit of a price reduction when the Pro will be released.
I don't own a PS5, and if the Pro doesn't get a pricetag that is more affordable for me, I will be skipping this generation. And probably quit console gaming all together, if this money-hungry business is keeping that trend. Then I'll enjoy my PS3, PS4 and PSVita for the remainder (maybe even my PS1 and PS2).
I borrowed a (digital) PS5 from my nephew the last 2 weeks. And although it is nice, especially the controller, I'm not that much impressed with the game-offerings, that would make me want to spend that much money, while I can still even enjoy my PS3 and PS4 games.
The PS5 Pro is for me, but not just at that price. I'm unfortunate enough to be in a situation that I can't generate a decent income. Gaming was kind of an escape for me, but now even that isn't on the table anymore.
[Btw: Not as a stab at you, but those 'stop being poor' jokes people are making the last few years, are really disgusting and disrespectful. It shows how out of touch people are and how ignorant they are about the world and/or their neighbourhood. That in a society that claims to care about everyone and everything.
here is nothing funny about being poor... and no, it's not a choice! It just shows people can't see past their own life and experiences.]
@@JustAnotherGamer1005 I can understand that! I think there are some great games for PS5, just not enough exclusives. True exclusives. If you do end up wanting one, you can get a used PS5 at a decent rate.
Im so glad you pointing this out vernon. I agree with the ps5 pro and what it offers😊
After the PSN outage yesterday, I WOULD NOT suggest getting a digital PS anything! Physical games may be a dying format, but it sure comes in handy when the network is down! 😉 Good video, by the way.
New times people, pc components are just more expensive than 3 years ago so yeah.
So pay 700 for games you’ve already played. Now with better frame rates. I’ll pass. Don’t preach other people about what’s expensive what’s not expensive. If you want to buy go ahead.
@@mikeypie24 I will and did. :)
The PS5 Pro drama is blown out of proportion, and i’m saying this as an Xbox fan.
It’s exactly the price i had expected it to be. If you have a fairly good tv and you can afford it… go for it!
The phone argument is dumb because we objectively use our phones more than a gaming console.
@@supermugiboy not dumb. You CAN buy a $200 dollar smart phone. But you CHOOSE to buy a better phone. I doubt you go on the phone manufacturers website and leave negative comments about their PRO phones. Haha come on
@@sirvern7825 And there it is the contradiction that shows you up to be a hypocrite, you could buy a ps5 yet you choose to buy the ps5 pro just because Sony say it’s better. Do you always believe what companies who are after your money say 🤔
@@sirvern7825 Yes, I choose to buy a better phone because I objectively use it more than my gaming devices.
You probably buy a new iPhone every year because "it's better" sheep
Sony destroying the console market one move at a time
@@owensoft I kinda agree
how?
Well XBOX or now "Microsoft Gaming" started destroying itself first and melting away with every month this year with bad news following more bad news so......
at this piont Sony can do the Hell they want to do....
@@Jpcraque yep and that is sad and bad for the gaming industry 😔
@@sirvern7825 that bad for all gamers no matter your platform!!!
I have been watching the "console wars" for 25 years and i can say that's sad to see what the gaming industry have become! And this is only this company's fault....
it really feels like i am just watching a sinking ship at this point...
The $700 price point isn't the issue; it's the value proposition. The PS5 Pro isn't worth $700 because it doesn't offer $700 in investment.
You brought up expensive phones, and you're right-they're pricey, but they provide significantly more value to consumers. The same applies to PCs. You could build a $700 PC, but with a bit more investment, you’d get far greater value.
The PS5 Pro feels similar to Apple's VR solution, which is outrageously priced and a complete flop.
@@armedhyde1448 good points!
You are paying for the "plug and play" experience easy solution and a system that will work for you for 5 years it's not if it worth it or not....
if that was the case apple would be out business many,many years ago with their disgusting prices
Guarantee it doesn't flop. How many PS5s have sold in 4 years? Like 60 million? They will sell at least 15 million pros
Agree and disagree with some things you said but the main reason why so many have a problem with it is ultimately the price and what it offers over the base PS5. I dont think the reveal with Mark Cerny was very good, they showed mostly first party games we have played and beat. FF7 Rebirth was the only game that stood out the most as looking improved.
Look at how Nvidia reveal their new GPU's they show collaborations with transformative visuals or build a demo that blows your mind showing the things the faster more powerful product can do. Lastly the PC comparison. It's too damn close to building a PC that can offer similar if not better level of power with more mature features and thats a PC which can do way more than consoles can, even if you were to focus on just gaming. $1000 RTX 4070 PC.
I don't blame you for wanting to buy it, I get it, I bought a 4090 day one lol. These are enthusiast level products but for consoles that can be a harder sell.
I like your take. Nothing wrong with that upgrade
I have a very similar look on all this, I still have a ps2 ps3, ps4 pro and ps5 I work on my own systems, have duplicates of systems to replace parts etc. and I don’t plan on buying a ps6 either if it goes full digital. So technically the ps5 pro could very well be the last system I ever own. I’ll be considered a “retro” gamer.
If the PS5 Pro can do 1440p 60FPS, HDR, Raytracing, and at high settings. Then $800 including the disc drive is justified. I have a RTX 4070 Super which cost $600, this card is capable of doing of what the PS5 Pro can do. But with the PC I have to have a monitor, CPU, PSU, motherboard, RAM, CPU Cooler, Computer Case, windows 10 license etc. this is gonna cost more than +$1500. Not only it’s more expensive, there’s a lot of technical no how, a bit of troubleshooting etc. sometimes people just want to pay for a dedicated plug and play console, buy the game and begin playing and not have to deal with a PC. A lot of people just see the price and not think about okay, why is it that price and what can it do that the PS5 can’t do. (it can fix FF7 Rebirth Performance mode for example) the PS5 Pro is not for everyone but for the dedicated PlayStation users who would love to harness the power of higher frame rates, raytracing, better render distances, sharper image quality with PSSR.
@@mavkajutsu here here!
Are you for real?
£830 if disc drive and vertical stand bought alongside, just for 60fps in fidelity mode, are you crazy?
@@RichyLBE I did say it's expensive and not for everyone. But a powerful console with 2 TB of storage isn't going to be cheap. How much would be acceptable to you?
Why would u buy a vertical stand u know the console can stand and lay down on its own right?
@@andyduhh4278 vertical is due to space
@@sirvern7825 That price if disc drive included
@JamJam0189 yea that is crazy expensive. It's not here tho. Would you buy it for 700 I'm GBP?
Sony milks you so hard jacking up the price of everything and you can't defend it. I bought a pc, and I am sticking with it. Sony refuses to drop prices stop releasing games. This generation is a bust. Millions of dollars wasted turns into milking consumers. Ps5 pro doesn't need to cost that much. Sony doesnt want to lose money on console sales. Controller sales and everything. They jack all the prices up and you defend it.
Expert on hardware prices? Tell us more
@@sirvern7825 The issue with ps5 pro is it has newest gpu generation in it for high ray tracing. So at the moment we are waiting for amd to release that generation to the public. It's called rdna 4 or rx 8000. Intel releasing cheaper gpu and nvidia will need to compete. Cpu hasn't changed and 3700x is cheap. You can build a pc close to ps5 pro. It's not about money for why I don't buy Sony. It's principle when you mess up you don't jack up the price of psn to play online controllers that have stick drift still cost 5 more dollars. Meanwhile they could add hall joysticks. Sony doesn't care about adding value only price to everything they have. Only reason they drop price of psvr2. Because people refuse to buy it. It's crazy how if you didn't buy it and told them no. You would get it cheaper. You just accept it meanwhile sony says we can charge this much because they have no competition. So it's up to consumers to fight against the price.
PS5 was 499 at launch, and PS3 was 599 back in 06’. They are not jacking up prices. People are just ignorant.
@dkozzzbeatz8079 Back when ps3 was that much, it had a built-in ps2. They raised the price of everything recently. Please use common sense and do your research.
@@raven80wolfx2 doesn't the PS5 have a built in PS4? Something to consider.
I bought an LG C9 because it had 4 hdmi 2.1 ports on it. I was future proofing for the PS5 and Series X. By the way I still use this TV with no burn in.
@@kenneth2875 nice!
For those of you who don’t want to video edit 3d work or anything like that you can make a really good pc for even under 600 bucks of pure performance and you can always torrent games on pc
My first pc costed me literally 160 all together and played everything I needed it to
My current gave me PC was $240. It isn't good but it works!
a 2tb SSD is almost 200. I was also looking to get a second console, so this is great news. Gonna have to get a new monitor as well.
I think the PSSR visuals are going to vary based on the development teams. FFVII Rebirth looks awesome with the atmospheric glow. Hogwarts Legacy looked super fancy with its reflections.
A sizeable portion of my library are retro style games, with chunky pixels. Not expecting much out of those. It would be interesting to see a PS4 era Souls game running on PS5 pro.
Where are you buying your ssd's from? There are many really good nvme ssd's well under $150 and closer to $120. I paid $110 for my 2tb 990pro. Sales happen all the time but sub $150 ssd's are every day. lol
@mrcrunch8000
Not with the speeds you need. Plus, this is their custom chip on the mobo. They recommend at minimum a 5500mb/s nvme. And most just say up to that get cheap. The recommended is 7200mb/s as the raw minimum speed of the internal nvme on the mobo is 5500mb/s. Also, what aren't people complaining about the 2tb series x that cost $600, without performance gains?
@@aaronsmith7143 Those exact speeds are met in the price range I mentioned. In addition to that the built in ssd doesn't even meet 7200mb/s. Google is your friend and almost across the board all ps5's show between 5500-6500mb/s. That's exactly why all tests using drives with 5500mb/s speeds perform just like the internal drive. You should look in to it a bit so you understand what is going on and understand why some drives rated even slower show zero loss in performance. It isn't all about sequential speeds either. Now with your xbox comment, people did complain and not only did they complain they didn't buy it. Let's also not forget the disc drive and the fact the series x uses a more expensive apu than the ps5. Even if the pro uses the same node the die size would be very similar to the die size of the apu in the series x.
@@mrcrunch8000 I got it at Wal*Mart for 180. WD brand, meant for PlayStation.
@@aaronsmith7143
Xbox still needs good games.
I understand the argument that of being invested in an ecosystem, however it's just one system that doesn't rely on other things like say Apple. You do not have to sell your PlayStation, it isn't like you'd lose what games you already have. Also people who make enough money can do whatever they want with their money sure. But the value of spending just a little more on a $1000 gaming build is insanely better. Backwards compatibility is a non-issue. The game library of PC is unmatched, even more so if you count emulation for older consoles and that Sony is bringing their IPs to PC. Upgrading a single piece at a time depending on what aspect you're looking to improve or repair is a more flexible consumer friendly system. Desktops can be used for work, notes, web browsing, more powerful content creation, having an offline music/video/image/game library, way more storage space and options, multi window tasking, etc. If you argue that price is no downside for the person that can afford it then PC is the epitome of that, if you wanna spend money you can, if you don't you don't have to. There are people with $150 gtx 1060 cards made in 2016 that can run the brand new Warhammer game.
I agree! Many are fast to drop a grand over a phone when theirs last year works just fine, but then like to complain about having options just like is happening now with the Pro. Nobody is forcing anyone to buy them.
People who say, just buy a PC, just don't understand what it's like to be in an ecosystem. I have 125 games, that includes 17 games in my backlog and more than that in my replay pile not to mention PS+ extra. So ~40-50 or so games I have at no added cost. That's years of games I'd have to rebuy on PC if i went to PC making PC more expensive.
I finally found the MODERN AUDIENCE guy!!
You do not need a 120hz tv to get a benefit from the PS5 Pro. Any game that has an improved resolution or clarity will still look better on any 4K TV.
Also, the PS6 will absolutely offer a disc drive. It will just be optional like it is with the Pro. Sony is not going to walk away from 25% of their customers who still want physical games. They will offer them an option.
I hope you're right about the PS6!
£830 for a toy is a rip off and you know it matey.
Haha ok
Wiz he's thick as 💩
@@sirvern7825It is a ripoff get over it.
😂😂😂😂
Sorry my dude but consoles are not toys....
If you can afford 2 PS5s and 2 PROs, you can get a reasonable gaming PC.
Get a tan and stop obsessing about your PC. Some people have a life. Go make love to your personal computer
You are paying $700 for something a $300 GPU does MUCH BETTER! They also make you pay $80 for a Disk Drive? Meaning it is one more step towards the day that you can only buy digital, which you don't own, and they can update at any time, taking features out?.... People defending this makes me sick to my stomach. Actually making Video Games worse.
I know people who were planning to wait until the PS5 Pro dropped and they've changed their minds when they saw the price, and will be getting a regular PS5 or Slim instead. Consider the fact that in some markets, it is already over $950 without Taxes, like it is in Canada. Going all in with the stand and disc drive brings it at around $1100 CND! So yes, it is expensive, and it edges out potential customers in markets like these. Sony isn't doing themselves any favours.
Nice console and game collection in the introduction man!
PS2 AND PS3 are still the kings
I am getting one. I play with lg c1 oled on my desk and 4k really shows. Anything but that terrible fsr2.
Difference is there. Promise of 4k60 / less modes IS that good. it's all we asked for.
it's only 200$ more than base ps5. Inflation really devalued the money. 700 is not that much nowadays. Especially for americans. EU is 800 euro + 120 eu for disc drive... and I already ordered one
I have the lg cx and am getting one too cheers!!!
You have a point, I bought PS5 on launch also, then upgraded with 1TB WD SN850 when Sony started to release the firmware to enable M.2 slot. That M.2 SSD I bought for $230. I think many other UA-camrs acknowledged that many hardcore audiences will buy the PS5 Pro no matter what, it's just the average gamers may turn off such high price. We already have a mindset that console should always be value-oriented and now the PS5 Pro seems to break that trend. This is not the 1st time Sony did this, we know the PS3 launch history but that console comes with many features unusual for a console at the time (HDMI port, bluray disc drive, multimedia card reader, bluetooth, hdd, wi-fi, etc.). I expect PS5 Pro will do just fine in terms of sales, it may not sell as well the base model but i'm not expecting it to be a failure. Spending $700 for a mid-gen refresh for slightly better tree model in Spiderman or smoother framerate in Fidelity mode is not gonna entice many gamers. The base model PS5 seems run just fine and that's what matters. Future games will surely push the PS5 Pro more, I expect games like FF16, Stellar Blade, and Black Myth Wukong will have a patch to utilize that extra horsepower for better details and framerate. For me I will wait and see what more PS5 Pro can offer in the future.
So technology is going up and prices should stay the same MR SIR fanboy.
In Australia it’s 1199+150+50 for the disc drive and stand, and ps+ which is 100-200 a year and it would be cheaper for me to upgrade my cpu, motherboard and ram… ps5 pro is expensive.
"Hey, leave the billion dollar company that don't give a shit about me, alone!! 😡"
@SirVerm What do you mean they can't fully utilise the system? Do you think The PS5 Pro will play all new titles in native 4K 60fps? If you think you can go native 4K quality mode above 60fps on pro that means one thing... you're wrong!
@@AdIBaR86 it won't play every title perfectly but it will play some older titles better and new titles better. If you don't have a HDMI 2.1 display then you can do any higher than 60 fps anyway
@@sirvern7825 utilising the PS5 Pro system without 2.1 it's simple... Use quality mode 60fps.
Honestly, I think people are making a bigger deal out of it and it needs to be. I think it’s probably because bad news gets clicks and they just need something to talk about. Of course I would like to have the system cheaper but I understand that our money isn’t worth what it used to be. I know that I used to be able to get chuck roast for about 3$ a pound and now it’s about 7$ a pound I could list a ton of other things that have gone up in price including in my business we have about 3000 SKUs and for the past couple years, we haven’t been able to maintain the same price on anything because every time we re-order the price is going up. I think I’ll probably pick one of these up like you. Playstation is probably my platform of choice I have a PS5 in my living room, and a PS5 in my bedroom, I’ll probably sell the one in my bedroom and put money towards a Pro. Nice to hear somebody that can have their own opinion. I’ll give you a sub.
here in Australia the console is going to cost $1200 now a stand cost $49.95 and a disk drive cost $160 so all up thats $1410. i got my PS5 on day one back in 2020 for $750 they now cost $799. now i converted the money of $700 US to Australian and that would bring the price to $1050.26 but they are charging us $1200. i am sorry sony its not worth it i will start saving for the PS6 god knows its going to cost an arm and a leg
Sigma rizz ohio ice spice what the dog doing
That's wild! I can understand that for you
I'm with you I game every day on my console. People are over reacting. Not to mention I can get at least $200 for my PS5 that brings the cost down to $500. I don't need a disc drive
So because you want an overpriced item the rest of the vast majority are overreacting how’s it like living in your world, you gotta love Gen Zs
Someone that uses logic. Rare on social media nowa days.
People jump on trends. Negativity sells.
I put in atleast 1000 hours on playstation each year (that yearly stats they send out)
So its a easy buy for me.
They shouldve added the stand though. Simply for convenience.
Agreed
Good little Sony Pony slave
People also jump on trends of having the latest and greatest tech. Also if negativity sells then I guess my opinion isn't real even though it's how I really feel. This current thing where if you have an opposing opinion, you're just a grifter.
$1379 here in New Zealand shits crazy expensive
So glad I future proofed my PC build years ago. Sabertooth X99 maxed out running a 3090TI. Built it right before prices skyrocketed. This is my last Xbox and Sony Console gen. I'm good with the PC and whatever Nintendo drops. Can you image? A 1000+ dollar PS6 system is going to push prices to the moon.
Yeah this is definitely my last PlayStation console
Dreamcast Guy’s videos are so cringe
I agree with your perspectives on this.
It should come with a disc drive for that price.
I've been waiting almost 3 years for the PS5 PRO to switch from my PS4 (almost day 1).
Maybe worth it to wait 2 or 3 more years and spend 1.000,00 eur on the PS6.
Nah, the PS5 Pro will be great. I'd go ahead and pick it up.
There's also a premium for what will now be definitively the king of the castle as far as graphics concerned in the console arena. The same thing happens with graphics cards there's always an additional premium for the top card which is now the 4090, compared to the 4080 super for example.
And 50% of 4090 cards will die.
Its not expensive at all, the regular PS5 was also about 700-100 at launch because of the shortages, and everyone bought them for those prices.
I've never spent a dime on Fortnight, and I have only purchased about 3-4 special editions in my entire life, the most expensive one being 100 dollars which came with a ton of stuff. I already have a PS5 and there is just no compelling reason to buy a PS5 pro at 700 dollars without a disc drive. It's not that I can't afford it, it is just a bad idea. I collect new consoles, and I would have purchased a PS5 pro just like I purchased a PS4 pro if the price difference were between 50-100 dollars, and it came with a disc drive. I am not buying less for more. I don't know who Sony is marketing the PS5 Pro to, but I suspect it is not life-long gaming fans who understand value propositions.
@@TheSanctus17 I think they are marketing to enthusiasts, people that are buying a PS5 for the first time and people that only play digital games.
@@sirvern7825 You could be right, but I am very skeptical that this will be successful relative to other PlayStation models. Maybe I am wrong and there are enough people who think this is a good idea; I guess we will see. I am an enthusiast and I usually buy every console. This will be the first hard pass for me.
$700 is too expensive. Sony has tried pricing like this in the past (the original PS3 model) and it did not go well for them.
That old quote seems relevant here... Insanity: Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
3:06 I've been saying this point too, agreed.
I spent $3000 dollars on my GPU last year and Ill spend that again in a few months when the 5090 drops. Im really not that bothered about $700 bucks to play GTA 6 when that drops until its released on PC.
I spare no expense when it comes to gaming. However, this one is a pass. I will just put the $800 or so with Disc Drive towards a 5090 when I change over from a 4090.
Will the slim ps5 disc drive work ? Is that what there saying?
@@darianjohnson2556 I think so. But I'm not entirely sure. I had one in my cart yesterday but I hesitated cuz I wasn't 100% sure. They need to be more clear about that
I ordered one this morning not gonna open til i know forsure aswell but i do plan on buying the pro
The PS5 Pro, buying the disk drive and stand in Sout Korea, is well over a million ₩. Rent, in some apartments is even cheaper than buying this with features that an upgrade should already have.
@@ValHoshi0725 well buy the base PS5, a $200 dollar phone, never eat out, walk to work.
it is expensive for what they offering, I been PS fan since the PS1 and always have been, but beeing a fan doesnt mean Im blind and dont have common sense,
One thing people don't take into perspective is that you can still enjoy and play PS5 games buying a regular PS5. The PS5 Pro is for people who are willing to pay the extra money to get a mild graphics upgrade. You don't HAVE to buy it to play PS5 games. Is it too much money? Yes. Is it that big of a deal? No. It would be a COMPLETELY different story if the base PS5 was $700. With all that being said, if they made the PS5 Pro in a similar vein as the launch PS3 where it was backward compatible with all previous gens, I don't think everybody would've complained. Can you imagine if PS5 Pro could play PS1, PS2, PS3, PS4 AND PS5 games? That would've been incredible.
I was watching one of these videos last night talking bad on the PS5 Pro but they said they paid $200 over asking price back when the PS5 was hard to get after launch. He had not regrets with that. But was flipping out over the Pro. Make it make sense. I am looking forward to the Pro because I wanted a second PS5 anyways.
Look i don't really care about this whole thing that much since i haven't owned a playstation console since ps2. Your video popped up in my feed randomly and i just want to say that i like how you're responding to critics, this might be an elaborate troll/rage bait.
@@pouf-dk3nq Thanks for stopping by! And I believe everything I said. I don't think it's THAT insane of a price. And for those that aren't happy with it there are other options to play PS5. Like the base PS5.
With a drive, it's almost equal to $1000, here in Sweden. So fuck no.
@@Svante proud to be an American! 😉
tell me, what killed the Vita
Prices of storage? Lack of games? I love my Vita
@@sirvern7825 2 things that people complain about the PS5 Pro basically.
I wouldn't buy it anyway, my last home console was the PS2. I just don't have room or am I willing to use my money to have a console setup.
@@sirvern7825 I love my Vita too btw, it does have games, just not localized to the US.
And I have it modded so price of storage is not an issue.
I think the Pro is shooting for 4k 60 on games not 4k 120. I'm not sure if that's what you meant but it sounded like it when you were talking about capable tv's. On the PS5 if you're going native 4k you're usually doing 30 fps. So people with 4k tv's or monitors that top out at 60fps will definitely benefit from a PS5 Pro.
I skipped ps3, and ps4, but bought a ps4 pro so I could play dead or alive 6. Likewise, I bought a ps5 (2 years in) so I could play Hogwarts Legacy. I don't yet know if there will be a game I want so bad it compels me to buy the ps5 pro.
I totally agree. It is not cheap but it is also not outrageously pricey. My PC cost 6000 Euros (Which is about 6300 USD) and that is actually just the PC tower itself. No monitor, peripherals etc.
Comparing the PS5 Pro to that price and one realizes that it is dirt cheap. Granted, my PC is A LOT more powerful and versatile. But a person who doesnt need a PC and still wants a very high quality gaming experience? Get the PS5 Pro.
considering you can still buy a regular ps5 cheaper and play the same games, its not that bad. xbox series s will get you the latest games even cheaper. ps1 adjusted for inflation was like $620 at launch and there was no cheaper option for the latest games back then.
I love PlayStation as-well. It'll be funny to see people change their minds about the Pro when GTA6 comes out. I promise you that game won't see a PC release for years to come. I purchased a 4070 for the same price as PS5 Pro. As crazy as it might sound I think the PS5 Pro does have a bit of value to it. (If you have 4K displays) You can't build a PC at a similar price that can do 4K 60FPS (feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) Also, gaming is an expensive hobby, even retro gaming if you like original hardware. I get that $700 is ridiculous but people shouldn't be surprised. Everything in gaming is expensive now, and if you really don't like the Pro then the original PS5 is still a really good and (some what) affordable option.
Had Sony sold the Pro with a built in disc drive they would face way less scrutiny. Buzz words like “up to” and “could do”, means you probably won’t see the benefits of the improved GPU. Btw CPU unchanged.
@@RMax-lz4ry I agree! And I guess we'll see!
I think the price would be fair if it was not the fact it's the same hardware, just updated from 7nm to 5nm giving keeper cooling/Room for overlocking. The past, we would see something that is the same but updated cheaper or more are less the same price. Now we see a refresh passed of as so called pro model and the base model marked up.
personally I think the price would have been easier to stomach if it were $700 WITH the disc drive. At least offer a $750 bundle to make the drive slightly cheaper.
but yeah there was no way this was going to be cheap unfortunately, with the current market where we are seeing sony RAISE prices of base ps5s around the world.
Hopefully closer to release there's more of a value proposition in terms of supported software. I saw the impressions from john linnenman from DF and kinda convinced me why this console exists. If monster hunter wilds is 60 fps on ps5 pro i'm 200% sold.
I commented something similar on a couple of other videos and will say it here too. Yes, it's expensive. With all of the rumors going around forever, most people were expecting a $600 price tag, so $700 was a shock. If you actually think about EVERYTHING a company or business has to factor into pricing, it's really understandable how Sony arrived at that amount. I'm not trying to makes excuses and I'm not denying that I think it costs more than it should. But if it included a disc drive or it was only $650, it would've been more palatable. Am I getting one? At the moment, no. I may change my mind at some point, but for now, the Pro isn't for me. And I'm okay with that. 🙂
I have never witnessed such cope in all my life.
i agree on the PS5 Pro not being that expensive. I have a high end PC with a 4090 that I paid nearly $2000 alone. I just dont see how $700 is all that expensive. I can make 700 or more in just one weekend of overtime.
I hate Ponies.
I hate haters and trolls
Aw poor you. I'm a Pony. What are you gonna do? Cry? What?
"When you really break it down, you're buying a gaming pc just with a different operating system" Actually you could buy a 700 dollar pc, and play Sony's games and have free online and even do more than gaming (work/content creation). And this is coming from a PS5 owner.
It will sell fine, got my disc drive today!
...and the the problem. Sony thinks it's ok.
@@chrish1398 If it sells, then it is ok.