For the longest time, the shells were hard to come by, now the kits are usually for platforms by worker and Jet. There is little support to just convert the longshot into a pump action powerhouse, or at least a definitive one. I do agree it was worth an include, but in the competitive nature of the hobby (Singapore being an exception), these are some of the most prevalent options
@@LordDraconical also just to mention I'm by no means old school I bought my first blaster in December of 2018 after watching you and coop for a year but I was able to dig up a longshot at goodwill.
It cost me about $50 to thrift a longshot, slap a brass breech in, and add a 10kg spring. I even messed up and had to make it lipless. Best to tinker and tune imo
I've found that the ESLT doesn't start to feed reliably until you either put MORE preload on the extension spring, or just switch over to powering it with surgical tubing. The default spring used as well as the pre-load on it make it very picky about dart diameter, which can only be slightly improved by switching to an alternate style of wye hopper setup. One that includes a teflon strip inside sees a noticeable benefit.
Just something to consider, thicker layer heights tend to yield stronger layer adhesion than thin layers. If you are talking specifically about the print velocity, then yes, a lower speed will help improve strength. You should check out CNC kitchen's videos where he tests how different print settings effect strength.
I currently have a tri-strike with a spring upgrade that is hitting stock rival performance aka 88-98fps and I am hoping my first 100+ FPS blaster will be a Caliburn
I just posted on r/nerf how I got my dzp to 230 fps with a simple spring upgrade. I have a ceda, 2 caliburns, 2 longshot builds and a chimera. For me the caliburn will always be my favorite but the dzp is really moving up on my list fast!
A fuck it, I've been watching your videos for a while but I'm totally sold on your thoughtfulness, honesty and just being all around reasonable. Great work man, love your style and your blasters are sick!
As someone with experience in metal fab who is only very new to this hobby I've been building a caliburn slowly from mostly steel and aluminum parts and doing a lot of machining on it very fun project for myself.
I’m ok with skipping retaliator based mods bc the prophecy, but I think you should’ve included longshots-they aren’t as common anymore, but they are definitely more common than the first blasters you mentioned
I tend to bounce between my talon claw and caliburn. Depends on how much draw I want. You are right though, taking a blaster you printed and assembled yourself feels so good.
Among these types of blasters I've only tried a Caliburn. throughout the course of a game I was able to get used to its pump-action Grimm and the weight of the Blaster. However I'm still not certain about it especially keeping it out of sunlight and doing constant repairs on it. That and I had the misfortune of jamming two Caliburns when I first tried it out, one had a part break and another had a part fallout from being loose.
Is it maybe alil crazy that after alot of tuning, lubing and tweaking ive managed to get my caliburn with tooth and nail kit and alumilan coupler up to 350-370 Fps on a full length K-26? I use 100% pure silicone grease in the plunger tube and breach rings which unfortunately means i have to periodically replace the silicone bumper pads every year or so but i think its worth it.
4:46 "that was dissapointing!" made my day... you made me lough so hard. thank you so much for your opinion. i started to build myself a caliburn. i saw some of your videos and for me the choice was clear. captain slug did an outstanding job on the caliburn. cant wait till mine is finished. :D
I'm looking into getting a DZP here soon. I love the look of the prophecy, but I think the DZP is just a better thought out product. Plus those DZP darts look promising
I guess the next step is to figure out what darts work best for these Springer DMRs. Short length darts are the obviously way to go, but which ones? What darts preform better or worse in such higher powered springers? What company has the best foam and what company has the best tip? Should I Frankenstein darts together myself or is there a factory made dart that is good enough to just buy/cut down to size? These are the questions that I can't find easily online, or at least with a few conflicting opinions.
We haven't tested the DZP Bamboo darts much so jury is still out, Worker Gen3s are great for springers with a scar barrel, and Adventure Force Waffles are great for Flywheels
Nerf branded Longshot, Xzeus2, Worker Terminator & upcomming OMW DMR 3000. All of which take (with a little work left and right) a meriad of kits and parts (worker, OMW, jet, Artifact, Roboman... sure some off which difficult to obtain or completely out of bussiness but parts still float around). And if you have acces to a 3D printer and like to goof around tuning your own DMR: KnS brass breech ‘any’ LS platform with a Flechette Spectre EZ breech and call it a ‘up to and beyond 300 fps’ day :-) Needles to say I am in the... ‘Huh..? Where are the Longshots?’ camp. When ‘pump action springer’ is no longer a criteria... forget about it: (and now I am paraphrasing the way I think you would formulate it) HPA bottle on board all the way baby! Delivering high ROF combined with precision in one sweet package!” Shamefull plug here: instagram.com/p/B2_32PIolpl/?igshid=o80ni5e5wu0y m.ua-cam.com/video/cGSo2sVRG8g/v-deo.html
As always great video and sweet content sir. I figured you would feature those blasters but there’s one that is conspicuously absent... there weren’t any from the Longshot family. Where’s the love Drac... where’s the love...? Keep up the great work man and I appreciate what you do for the hobby.
Hey Drac, I would sincerely love it if you would do a tutorial on making the rainbow pump if you could. I would LOVE to make one of my own, but i neither know where to get parts for it or how to even go about making one. I am a spring chicken in the realm of modding nerf stuff, so i have no knowledge of this type of stuff. I'd appreciate it very much.
Nerfer: what is it? Nerf master Drac: You’re forefather’s Rainbow Pump. This is the weapon of the NIC Knight. Not as clumsy or as random as printed blaster. An elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
Northeast Designs has published significant updates to the stl files for the Chimera as recently as June 2019 (see his Google Drive folder). Has anyone built one that recently? Frontline Foam/DerrikkSun has the Chimera listed for sale on his site but I'm not sure if it's the updated version or what his turnaround time is.
Excellent video, thanks for the comparison of the Caliburn and DZP. I wish you had mentioned the ability of the Caliburn to fire not only elite darts but Mega Darts and Rival High Impact Rounds.
I got a ceda from out of darts a while ago. I hated the omni kit and the alpha kit for it. Ak blaster mods has a kit that replaces the breach with the worker power kit and a special reinforced plunger and plunger tube as well as a 16 kilo spring. Now the ceda is one of my favorite blasters.
The only bad thing I can say about my DZP MK1 other than the stock which was a problem for everyone is that it jams and some of those jams require me to take the blaster apart to clear.
Which of these would you recommend for someone who doesn't do nerf much, but just wants one for the range and accuracy? Budget is somewhat limited, prefer $150 or under.
Logically, a limited edition is usually followed by a slightly different regular production model, if there is enough demand. Not available outside the US may have something to do with dart velocity out of the box. There may be import rules that apply to finished blasters that don't apply to kits or mod parts.
@@mikevandebunt811 The DZ pro not being available outside of the US is probably because they usually only sell their products in the US. Even their regular low fps blasters...Unless you live in Canada, then you can get some of them through Walmart's Adventure Force brand. Dart velocity might play a part in it, but it doesn't seem like they have any intentions to sell any of their stuff outside of North America.
As much as I love all of my caliburns (especially my vampire hunter even though there is not a war out there I'm allowed to use it at), my go to is my adventure force titanium that I stuffed a full length brass pusher breech and side magwell into. With top rail and stock attachment included it is my best performing blaster that hits my 200 cap perfect. I encourage everyone to make what they can with the stuff they have. I'm devising a way to stuff one into a deploy for the lolz.
I've been wanting to build a Rainbow or a +Bow dor a while. Do you think you could do a RainBow tutorial? Edit: wow that rainbow pump really reminds me of NoM's builds. One heck of a blast from the past.
@@owenborders3982 I honestly just don't want to have someome 3d print parts for me, and I think it would just be a lot faster to build a RainBow, as I just need to cut a few pieces of cutting board and polycarbonate instead of having an entire blaster done. Thanks, I'll check the link out.
Have a DZP and a Prophecy. Prophecy has a lot more metal and stronger parts but is heavier. DZP is lighter but doesn't feel more solid. While many claim to be able to use worker darts in the DZP, you really can't get around Bamboo darts. Nothing compares and they are notrivial in their expense.
I love my ceda, it preformed crap straight outta the box but I went ham on upgrades and spent less money then I would’ve if I had partially upgraded a Dart zone pro
K14/22kg caliburn with a 18 inch .495 barrel, bearing scar, 10 round talon, barrel shroud, and a perfect seal will probably be the best sniper for a long time and I use something very similar achieving over 300 fps
I love my ceda (I ordered through out of darts) and I have upgraded mine to 140 + FPS But I do agree the dart zone pro does out weigh with pros by a lot
unfortunately the ceda is pretty crap out of the box and needs upgrades to be good, on the other hand the DZP mk1 will do high 170s and 180s straight out of the box plus higher quality plastic
Me too! My ceda shoots 170 tho, I have a k26, metal inners, upgraded plunger and barrel seal. My friend hydro dipped it too. But I agree, it was crap out of the box. It was cheaper to fully upgrade then to partially upgrade a DZP. Overall, CEDA is a great option
Caliburns definitely have a higher performance ceiling, but you SUBSTANTIALLY undersold the Prophecy - the standard "complete" build rocking the full MCX body cover like the one you had in the video is easily hitting northwards of 210 FPS; if you're only getting 170 from a Prophecy, you either built it with the standard-size plunger tube or are deliberately/unintentionally using the wrong length of barrel/wrong pusher with your XPT.
i think anything pump action or bolt action or something like that are single shot snipers then a dmr i think is a semi auto long range sniper rifle like a super long range stryfe
i use a sonic green retalicon with a worker 7kg spring and M4 stock with a gavinfuzzy retalistor pump grip. it's either my retalicon or my bullpup retaliator.
Only thing stopping me from producing my own blaster is a 3d printer. Only thing stopping me from aquiring a 3d printer is lack of disposable income. so I'm working with a prophecy kit currently to do what I want. It's not perfect, but it's close enough. So why not a caliburn? Because my nerf group caps at 150fps and it feels wrong to not use a k26 in said caliburn.
Listing sellers, but no mention of Frontline Foam who sells them for 130? The also sell talon claws, espers, pigeons, vipers, chimeras, rainbows, and the grass snake. pretty sure he will still make a rainbow pump if you email him. he used to sell them on the site.
@@owenborders3982 I dont own one, but motalitynerf on reddit has one that can hit up to 180fps, so Im hoping I could have something like that in the future
How can to you say the ceda doesnt work as its supposed to if youve never had one to tinker with or test? "Played around with" doesnt sound very extensive or consistent...And you dont want to promote them (here, compare it to the other two) because they never sent you a demo model? Did you ever actually buy one from them? Hmm...
Using a blaster over a collective 3-4 hours of play is more than satisfactory to get a feel for a platform. Once you’ve experienced enough toy blasters, it is pretty easy to get a feel after just a round, but multiple samples at multiple wars was plenty. I’m not upset that no sample arrived, because I don’t really want to own one for my collection, but I am upset that I was lied to in the same exact vein that many paying customers were.
Somebody on the Nerf reddit yesterday changed the spring on his dzp with a 16 kg ceda worker spring and got 230 fps. He also thinks the stock spring is around 10 kg, because it is weaker than his 12 kg spring.
@@squareyoyoer640 The Caliburn and Longshot (with aftermarket parts) can do the same thing, so 230 fps is not that crazy nowadays. Pretty sure Prophecy and Ceda can do the same too. Heck, the highest I have ever seen a springer go up to is a Caliburn with a K14 spring that got 400+ fps on reddit. Of course, that's only after he redesigned and 3D printed new parts for that to work.
@@captsomeguy1 what's the cheapest way to get to that kind of power? I'm making an sleeper breech for my mediator and putting a 9 kilo spring in as well, but I'm always open to a better platform
Yes. I havent shot too many through the standard metal barrel yet, but I also havent had a jam with them. DZ includes a plastic barrel that is slightly larger inner diameter that will accommodate pretty much any dart, including their adventure force waffle tips.
I wish you'd do this video again, since I don't know what all is out there, and even I'm noticing a bunch of blasters missing that should really be discussed (Though, when you realize this video is 5 years old, it makes so much sense why there's so much missing)
I'd LOVE to kit-build a Caliburn, but I don't have a lot of work space (taken up by model railroading). If there is any way I could convince you to allow me the privilege of the experience, I would love to contract a rifle from you, and I would pay well.
I've always wanted to get into the hobby, and I may (by "may" I mean highly probable) be getting an Ender 3 Pro for my birthday. Time to get started on that Caliburn. Or Talonclaw. Probably the Caliburn though.
Would it be possible to make a Caliburn/Talonclaw out of ABS? PETG? Also, correct me if I am wrong, Tooth & Nail (full size) is out of stock and Tooth & Nail mini is still available.
First, like many have said here, where the longshots bro?? Second, a prophacy/retalicon, retaliator build can hit close to 300fps defo 250/260. You need to use a brass barrel (can be made to work with the worker pusher or you can use a brass breech), and then with the BT27 spring you could have the most powerful blaster on the field 😉
I threw in a k14 kit in my Caliburn and can confirm they go well above 300fps. Though i can feel the life diminishing each time fire that monster shot.
see and this is why i foresee the dzp being the new standard because with upgrades im sure you could get 250-300fps and not worry about it breaking due to the injection molded shell it is super sturdy
I know this comment is way off topic, but is there a wiring diagram for a MOSFET rapidstrike using a 3 switch setup? I have plans to make a carbine and an SMG (carbine is 3s, SMG is 2s) and what motors do you recommend?
I saw the link to captain slugs caliburn but i didn't see a link to crowe's and i couldn't find anything on Google does anyone have a link to crowe's caliburn?
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I find the lack of longshot disturbing
The lack of any real modern support for it bugs me as an old school nerfer, but youre right, it shoulda gotten a mention
@@LordDraconical Lack? why do I see plunger tubes and other such stuff showing up even on amazon? Saw one just a couple of months ago.
For the longest time, the shells were hard to come by, now the kits are usually for platforms by worker and Jet. There is little support to just convert the longshot into a pump action powerhouse, or at least a definitive one. I do agree it was worth an include, but in the competitive nature of the hobby (Singapore being an exception), these are some of the most prevalent options
@@LordDraconical only other thing I can think to mention is a fully tuned out EAT.
@@LordDraconical also just to mention I'm by no means old school I bought my first blaster in December of 2018 after watching you and coop for a year but I was able to dig up a longshot at goodwill.
You kind of missed the longshots. The old reliable still can deliver the caliburn level hits when you get enough into it.
Yeah. I'm sticking with my longshot. No caliburn for me.
It cost me about $50 to thrift a longshot, slap a brass breech in, and add a 10kg spring. I even messed up and had to make it lipless. Best to tinker and tune imo
I am here to claim your brass breach longshot.
I got an omega kit in mine
Technically it's closer to a sniper imo. It's got a bolt.
I've found that the ESLT doesn't start to feed reliably until you either put MORE preload on the extension spring, or just switch over to powering it with surgical tubing. The default spring used as well as the pre-load on it make it very picky about dart diameter, which can only be slightly improved by switching to an alternate style of wye hopper setup. One that includes a teflon strip inside sees a noticeable benefit.
Just something to consider, thicker layer heights tend to yield stronger layer adhesion than thin layers. If you are talking specifically about the print velocity, then yes, a lower speed will help improve strength. You should check out CNC kitchen's videos where he tests how different print settings effect strength.
You forgot modded longshots thats the current Australian meta with most hitting 250fps on average
Yep, Longshot with a sleeper breech, 180-300fps, pretty cheap and easy. Leaving it out is a big miss.
I guess it's because the Longshot is out of production now... But that's my high power rifle of choice!
@@h4hnemesis wait what
what kinda upside down engineering allowed a nerf blaster to shoot like a BB gun
Where do I get the mods for that? I have a friend with a Longshot.
I currently have a tri-strike with a spring upgrade that is hitting stock rival performance aka 88-98fps and I am hoping my first 100+ FPS blaster will be a Caliburn
You should try that with a triad
Dont click the link
@@TheSuperSushiMaster what link?
Hey pal, im from the aux nice to see you talking about draco
Drac said AR-15 and is also demonitized, coincidence?
I think not.
you can't spell demonitized without demon
Liam Fish wdym
I just posted on r/nerf how I got my dzp to 230 fps with a simple spring upgrade. I have a ceda, 2 caliburns, 2 longshot builds and a chimera. For me the caliburn will always be my favorite but the dzp is really moving up on my list fast!
Drew Benson i saw your post
I saw it too!
May I have a link?
How have you found the Ceda?
Who are you on reddit
Dracula: (has vampire teeth)
LordDraconical: hippity hoppity teeth are now my property.
I found this unusually funny
Nice profile of the scout
Yeah
*Puts on brass knuckles*
A fuck it, I've been watching your videos for a while but I'm totally sold on your thoughtfulness, honesty and just being all around reasonable. Great work man, love your style and your blasters are sick!
As someone with experience in metal fab who is only very new to this hobby I've been building a caliburn slowly from mostly steel and aluminum parts and doing a lot of machining on it very fun project for myself.
Show us! Sounds awesome
I love my springers and these are great options, but how did you miss the Longshot when discussing highly modified springers with range and accuracy?
I’m ok with skipping retaliator based mods bc the prophecy, but I think you should’ve included longshots-they aren’t as common anymore, but they are definitely more common than the first blasters you mentioned
I tend to bounce between my talon claw and caliburn. Depends on how much draw I want. You are right though, taking a blaster you printed and assembled yourself feels so good.
Among these types of blasters I've only tried a Caliburn. throughout the course of a game I was able to get used to its pump-action Grimm and the weight of the Blaster. However I'm still not certain about it especially keeping it out of sunlight and doing constant repairs on it. That and I had the misfortune of jamming two Caliburns when I first tried it out, one had a part break and another had a part fallout from being loose.
Drac roasting Jet is always a special treat
Makes lightsaber reference...
one is hanging on the wall in the background.
Clever, eh?
Obviously an incredible coincidence! 😂
imo a modded longshot with a pump grip is a good option in this category
Anything that dart zone is putting out could be a dmr
Wait you're telling me there is midwest nerf? Where and how?
I recently bought a caliburn highly recommend it insane blaster
Is it maybe alil crazy that after alot of tuning, lubing and tweaking ive managed to get my caliburn with tooth and nail kit and alumilan coupler up to 350-370 Fps on a full length K-26? I use 100% pure silicone grease in the plunger tube and breach rings which unfortunately means i have to periodically replace the silicone bumper pads every year or so but i think its worth it.
I like the visit to the past of the hobby when I originally started here.
4:46 "that was dissapointing!" made my day... you made me lough so hard. thank you so much for your opinion. i started to build myself a caliburn. i saw some of your videos and for me the choice was clear. captain slug did an outstanding job on the caliburn. cant wait till mine is finished. :D
I'm looking into getting a DZP here soon. I love the look of the prophecy, but I think the DZP is just a better thought out product. Plus those DZP darts look promising
GET A CALIBURN
@@owenborders3982 but construction wise the dzp is better and the darts are much better, also it hits 170-180fps right out of the box
I wonder if anyone has bothered to CAD the longshot shell and internals for 3d printing use. I think thatd give the designs new life.
Geez, I haven't seen that ESTL in years. How'd it get into your hands?
eslt lol
@@SnoopDoggyDoge ltse
I still love my good old Longshot
I guess the next step is to figure out what darts work best for these Springer DMRs. Short length darts are the obviously way to go, but which ones? What darts preform better or worse in such higher powered springers? What company has the best foam and what company has the best tip? Should I Frankenstein darts together myself or is there a factory made dart that is good enough to just buy/cut down to size? These are the questions that I can't find easily online, or at least with a few conflicting opinions.
We haven't tested the DZP Bamboo darts much so jury is still out, Worker Gen3s are great for springers with a scar barrel, and Adventure Force Waffles are great for Flywheels
What about the Terminator and other derivatives of the LS?
Nerf branded Longshot, Xzeus2, Worker Terminator & upcomming OMW DMR 3000. All of which take (with a little work left and right) a meriad of kits and parts (worker, OMW, jet, Artifact, Roboman... sure some off which difficult to obtain or completely out of bussiness but parts still float around). And if you have acces to a 3D printer and like to goof around tuning your own DMR: KnS brass breech ‘any’ LS platform with a Flechette Spectre EZ breech and call it a ‘up to and beyond 300 fps’ day :-)
Needles to say I am in the... ‘Huh..? Where are the Longshots?’ camp.
When ‘pump action springer’ is no longer a criteria... forget about it: (and now I am paraphrasing the way I think you would formulate it) HPA bottle on board all the way baby! Delivering high ROF combined with precision in one sweet package!”
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Easily your best video in a while. Back at it again!
As always great video and sweet content sir. I figured you would feature those blasters but there’s one that is conspicuously absent... there weren’t any from the Longshot family. Where’s the love Drac... where’s the love...? Keep up the great work man and I appreciate what you do for the hobby.
Hey Drac, I would sincerely love it if you would do a tutorial on making the rainbow pump if you could. I would LOVE to make one of my own, but i neither know where to get parts for it or how to even go about making one. I am a spring chicken in the realm of modding nerf stuff, so i have no knowledge of this type of stuff. I'd appreciate it very much.
Nerfer: what is it?
Nerf master Drac: You’re forefather’s Rainbow Pump. This is the weapon of the NIC Knight. Not as clumsy or as random as printed blaster. An elegant weapon from a more civilized age.
Nerf Wars: A New Hope
Nerfs of the Old Republic...
Northeast Designs has published significant updates to the stl files for the Chimera as recently as June 2019 (see his Google Drive folder). Has anyone built one that recently? Frontline Foam/DerrikkSun has the Chimera listed for sale on his site but I'm not sure if it's the updated version or what his turnaround time is.
Prophecy still has a special place for me thanks again my brother for the all smoke version
Soon I’ll take my DZP out to competitive soon
I literally just asked about a video like this in the Longstrike mod video like not even a few hours ago
Excellent video, thanks for the comparison of the Caliburn and DZP. I wish you had mentioned the ability of the Caliburn to fire not only elite darts but Mega Darts and Rival High Impact Rounds.
I got a ceda from out of darts a while ago. I hated the omni kit and the alpha kit for it. Ak blaster mods has a kit that replaces the breach with the worker power kit and a special reinforced plunger and plunger tube as well as a 16 kilo spring. Now the ceda is one of my favorite blasters.
I'm used to hearing DMR as a track runner. So I was a bit confused when a nerf channel made a video about a distance medley relay.
What about the longshot if you have that modded like my brother you can hit 250fps
The only bad thing I can say about my DZP MK1 other than the stock which was a problem for everyone is that it jams and some of those jams require me to take the blaster apart to clear.
I managed to get one before jet pretty much closed down and, however unreliable, it makes me smile every day when I come home.
Which of these would you recommend for someone who doesn't do nerf much, but just wants one for the range and accuracy? Budget is somewhat limited, prefer $150 or under.
Unfortunately for the Dart Zone Pro, there's only like 100 left and they are not available outside of US....
Logically, a limited edition is usually followed by a slightly different regular production model, if there is enough demand. Not available outside the US may have something to do with dart velocity out of the box. There may be import rules that apply to finished blasters that don't apply to kits or mod parts.
@@mikevandebunt811 The DZ pro not being available outside of the US is probably because they usually only sell their products in the US. Even their regular low fps blasters...Unless you live in Canada, then you can get some of them through Walmart's Adventure Force brand. Dart velocity might play a part in it, but it doesn't seem like they have any intentions to sell any of their stuff outside of North America.
As much as I love all of my caliburns (especially my vampire hunter even though there is not a war out there I'm allowed to use it at), my go to is my adventure force titanium that I stuffed a full length brass pusher breech and side magwell into. With top rail and stock attachment included it is my best performing blaster that hits my 200 cap perfect. I encourage everyone to make what they can with the stuff they have. I'm devising a way to stuff one into a deploy for the lolz.
I've been wanting to build a Rainbow or a +Bow dor a while. Do you think you could do a RainBow tutorial?
Edit: wow that rainbow pump really reminds me of NoM's builds. One heck of a blast from the past.
Just get a caliburn, its a much more refined version. so much more worth it
Also Here's the NerfHaven page for the rainbow, really cheap to build classic:
nerfhaven.com/forums/topic/20330-rainbow/
@@owenborders3982 I honestly just don't want to have someome 3d print parts for me, and I think it would just be a lot faster to build a RainBow, as I just need to cut a few pieces of cutting board and polycarbonate instead of having an entire blaster done. Thanks, I'll check the link out.
Have a DZP and a Prophecy. Prophecy has a lot more metal and stronger parts but is heavier. DZP is lighter but doesn't feel more solid. While many claim to be able to use worker darts in the DZP, you really can't get around Bamboo darts. Nothing compares and they are notrivial in their expense.
If you're gonna put a "charging handle" on the blaster you may as well design it to be functional as a priming mechanism or a jam clearing mechanism.
True. The one on the Prophesy is in the wrong place to do either of those things. It must just be there to make it look tacti-cool...
I love my ceda, it preformed crap straight outta the box but I went ham on upgrades and spent less money then I would’ve if I had partially upgraded a Dart zone pro
I wish someone would make a see through Caliburn, Jupiter, nemesis or a JOLT!!!!!!
The jolt is for Frank Cooper (Coop772)
So where can we buy that original "tube blaster" made of those PVC see-through tube
K14/22kg caliburn with a 18 inch .495 barrel, bearing scar, 10 round talon, barrel shroud, and a perfect seal will probably be the best sniper for a long time and I use something very similar achieving over 300 fps
I love my ceda (I ordered through out of darts) and I have upgraded mine to 140 + FPS But I do agree the dart zone pro does out weigh with pros by a lot
unfortunately the ceda is pretty crap out of the box and needs upgrades to be good, on the other hand the DZP mk1 will do high 170s and 180s straight out of the box plus higher quality plastic
Me too! My ceda shoots 170 tho, I have a k26, metal inners, upgraded plunger and barrel seal. My friend hydro dipped it too. But I agree, it was crap out of the box. It was cheaper to fully upgrade then to partially upgrade a DZP. Overall, CEDA is a great option
with so many new contenders this deserves a sequal
Would a adventure force villanotor be a DMR? or perhaps a alpha trooper.
Wait what happened to top five Friday
I just finished my Caliburn and I love it! Great video Drac! Love your content bro!
Caliburns definitely have a higher performance ceiling, but you SUBSTANTIALLY undersold the Prophecy - the standard "complete" build rocking the full MCX body cover like the one you had in the video is easily hitting northwards of 210 FPS; if you're only getting 170 from a Prophecy, you either built it with the standard-size plunger tube or are deliberately/unintentionally using the wrong length of barrel/wrong pusher with your XPT.
Also he didn't have the long spring (25/28n) in his powerstock. What a waste...
i think anything pump action or bolt action or something like that are single shot snipers then a dmr i think is a semi auto long range sniper rifle like a super long range stryfe
What about the Nexus pro? Is that a dmr?
i use a sonic green retalicon with a worker 7kg spring and M4 stock with a gavinfuzzy retalistor pump grip. it's either my retalicon or my bullpup retaliator.
Only thing stopping me from producing my own blaster is a 3d printer. Only thing stopping me from aquiring a 3d printer is lack of disposable income. so I'm working with a prophecy kit currently to do what I want. It's not perfect, but it's close enough. So why not a caliburn? Because my nerf group caps at 150fps and it feels wrong to not use a k26 in said caliburn.
Why didnt you talk about the worker terminator?
Listing sellers, but no mention of Frontline Foam who sells them for 130? The also sell talon claws, espers, pigeons, vipers, chimeras, rainbows, and the grass snake. pretty sure he will still make a rainbow pump if you email him. he used to sell them on the site.
What? No Longshot?
Rainbow pump link is down. And I want to make one.
A well modded stampede is the best nerf DMR (other than HPA) change my mind
now to get myself a fully modded stampede
Now to get a hpa recon
How hard is yours hitting, cuz mine can only hit 110 on a good day,
@@owenborders3982 I dont own one, but motalitynerf on reddit has one that can hit up to 180fps, so Im hoping I could have something like that in the future
@@noahmiller4839 Dang i would love to see that thing
@@owenborders3982 he has a couple videos with it
Drac LOVES the word "litany".
How can to you say the ceda doesnt work as its supposed to if youve never had one to tinker with or test? "Played around with" doesnt sound very extensive or consistent...And you dont want to promote them (here, compare it to the other two) because they never sent you a demo model? Did you ever actually buy one from them? Hmm...
Using a blaster over a collective 3-4 hours of play is more than satisfactory to get a feel for a platform. Once you’ve experienced enough toy blasters, it is pretty easy to get a feel after just a round, but multiple samples at multiple wars was plenty. I’m not upset that no sample arrived, because I don’t really want to own one for my collection, but I am upset that I was lied to in the same exact vein that many paying customers were.
I wanna see the dzp with a stronger spring.
Somebody on the Nerf reddit yesterday changed the spring on his dzp with a 16 kg ceda worker spring and got 230 fps. He also thinks the stock spring is around 10 kg, because it is weaker than his 12 kg spring.
@@captsomeguy1 geez that's verging on air-powered territory
@@squareyoyoer640 The Caliburn and Longshot (with aftermarket parts) can do the same thing, so 230 fps is not that crazy nowadays. Pretty sure Prophecy and Ceda can do the same too. Heck, the highest I have ever seen a springer go up to is a Caliburn with a K14 spring that got 400+ fps on reddit. Of course, that's only after he redesigned and 3D printed new parts for that to work.
@@captsomeguy1 Mm I want to do that to mine.
@@captsomeguy1 what's the cheapest way to get to that kind of power? I'm making an sleeper breech for my mediator and putting a 9 kilo spring in as well, but I'm always open to a better platform
Can the dz pro shoot full length elites
Yes. I havent shot too many through the standard metal barrel yet, but I also havent had a jam with them. DZ includes a plastic barrel that is slightly larger inner diameter that will accommodate pretty much any dart, including their adventure force waffle tips.
I wish you'd do this video again, since I don't know what all is out there, and even I'm noticing a bunch of blasters missing that should really be discussed (Though, when you realize this video is 5 years old, it makes so much sense why there's so much missing)
As has been said several times here, how come theres no moded Longshot? They are not hard to get if you want one and have plenty of upgrade options
what abt the jet blaster...
I'd LOVE to kit-build a Caliburn, but I don't have a lot of work space (taken up by model railroading). If there is any way I could convince you to allow me the privilege of the experience, I would love to contract a rifle from you, and I would pay well.
Bradley Philips has a lot of clips on Ceda....but they certainly seem to be out of stock.
do you only use the rainbow pipe just to be different? Because its not that practical against something like a caliburn
I've always wanted to get into the hobby, and I may (by "may" I mean highly probable) be getting an Ender 3 Pro for my birthday. Time to get started on that Caliburn. Or Talonclaw. Probably the Caliburn though.
A Caliburn Is the best option
Where is Spring Air Blaster? (SAB)
Would it be possible to make a Caliburn/Talonclaw out of ABS? PETG? Also, correct me if I am wrong, Tooth & Nail (full size) is out of stock and Tooth & Nail mini is still available.
Man, that rainbowpump is a blast from the past...
First, like many have said here, where the longshots bro?? Second, a prophacy/retalicon, retaliator build can hit close to 300fps defo 250/260. You need to use a brass barrel (can be made to work with the worker pusher or you can use a brass breech), and then with the BT27 spring you could have the most powerful blaster on the field 😉
My opinion is I like the xzeus over the caliburn and talon claw
But they're never in stock :(
@@air_ They don't make those shells anymore
But why? That's basically their best product.
@@air_ CNC takes forever you have to get them at the right time
@@air_ on their page it says coming soon but OOD has been out for awhile
I use jet blaster ceda. I love the modularity of it
2:58 when people try quitting smoking
Yea lol
Any chance of updating this video with the Ceda S, DZP 1.1, and high tier modded brass breach Longshots?
It’s been a long time since this vid! Would you be able to make an update?
I would love arcane caliburn as a kit am I weird for that?
Idk about the half length darts, they're smaller so you'd lose them easier and would have to replace them more
I threw in a k14 kit in my Caliburn and can confirm they go well above 300fps. Though i can feel the life diminishing each time fire that monster shot.
see and this is why i foresee the dzp being the new standard because with upgrades im sure you could get 250-300fps and not worry about it breaking due to the injection molded shell it is super sturdy
Not only the miss on the long shot but what about the ceda a tru ar platform and still fully upgradeable oh and way cheaper than both
how much was that saber in the backround
What's up with the Rotj luke saber hanging on the dart zone pros certificate of authenticity XD
Honestly I like springers but I think im more interested in stringers my first modded gun was a cross bolt which i still on and i really want a esper
I know this comment is way off topic, but is there a wiring diagram for a MOSFET rapidstrike using a 3 switch setup? I have plans to make a carbine and an SMG (carbine is 3s, SMG is 2s) and what motors do you recommend?
I saw the link to captain slugs caliburn but i didn't see a link to crowe's and i couldn't find anything on Google does anyone have a link to crowe's caliburn?
Where's the brass breach longshot?
Kinda wanna try and get homemade performance out of a retaliator as there is a new power stock kit for it