@@JamesLeigh28 idk. just a joke like you said but most things I have seen that are injection molded witha 3d printed 1st family member have been like 2x to 4x the price for some things not saying that it is gonna be like that but just a joke
Congrats to shellington for getting an injection molded product. This thing looks frickin sweet. Edit: Holy crap it shoots 230 fps too. I might have to splurge and get this :D
I'd just be skeptical of buying anything from Shellington. My experience is that they're *extremely* slow. I'm over a year out on getting a working Wingchester from them after the first was damaged in shipping. It took months to get confirmation that they'd even take a return and since September, I'm *still* waiting on the replacement.
@@ralexcraft990 We're both in the US and I've had other producers (often ones that are actually just one person) just as far away respond much quicker. Also, distance isn't really a factor when it comes to responding to an email.
The price seems spot on. Getting molds made for injection molding is hella expensive, and when you're making a niche product for a very specific demographic; you really need to recoup that cost if you hope to produce new products for that same audience in the future.
Totally on the mark. A 3D printer can make any shape you want as long as it fits on the bed, so any model of blaster. Those injection moulds are probably a USD 50 000 upfront cost and can only ever make parts for the Kirin.
Seems like it's be super fun for plinking, especially with the sniper feel. Definitely would like to see a mag that looks like a higher caliber but it's really not a deal breaker. If I get a chance I'll definitely have to pick one up someday. Great video as always!
really cool blaster! I definitely agree with the mag, I think shellington should 1. make the mag extension for sniper feel 2. make non shell or biodegradable shells versions 3. make some competitive viable snipers
Hey, love your videos! It would be awesome to see another review of a bunch of cheap online blasters- a lot of people get attracted to cheap seemingly good looking Blasters online that can sometimes be really bad, but your reviews help out a lot on knowing what to buy and what not to buy!
Seeing that seam in the front where the barrel starts makes me want a stubby flat-fronted version. I can't remember what it's called, but the Worker kit I have on my Strife is somewhat similar, and I love the look
Your vids are so good keep it up frank. You've taught me basically everything Ik about foam flinging, in a week I'm going to a toy superstore to buy a bunch of blasters do you have any recommendations? Keep posting these tacti-cool videos.
injection molding is more expensive than 3d printing, the machines are much more expensive and the tooling mostly locks them in to a single product. a 3d printer doesnt have tooling and a lot of farms like OOD use 900 dollar printers as opposed to multi-thousand dollar injection molders
In low volumes, injection molding is much more expensive than 3D printing. In large volumes, injection molding is cheaper. It's the cost of the mold tooling that is the biggest cost for injection molding.
hey Coop at the eight minute mark you commented about the blaster being a PCC, that comment and your earlier comment about the faux supressor makes me think this looks like a modernised delisle carbine.
Strong recommendation bro. Though I think I will stick with my Wingchester, as I can tune it down to LARP class levels. But still, the Kirin looks like a cool blaster, that might be fun to field one day.
HEY COOP! YOU EVER THINK OF USING A DECIBEL READER?!!!? I'm curious how loud some of these guns are shooting these bullets. Haha hoping that triggered you some. Best dart blaster reviewer ever.
@@Shnowz is he wrong though lol? I was trying to buy a holster for the nightingale like 2 days ago, literally could not find one that did want I wanted and was left handed. I did eventually but it’s like deep in the dark web of Amazon. 😂
technicaly speaking 3D printed is cheaper than injection molded on low print runs, essencialy, 3D printed = you get some cheap 3D printer to do the job and buy some plastic for it to print with (or contract a printer farm), the machine is rather cheap and the production is slow, the plastic is also quite cheap but the process isn't very efficient and optimal design is drasticaly different, usualy bulkier because it's 3D printed. injection molded = you get a mold which is very expensive, then you get the injection molding machine or most likely contract someone that has one (well usualy more than one since you actualy need many pieces and each piece is its own mold and machines usualy only run 1 mold at a time) and those are easily in the 5 to 6 digit figure if not higher, however the design can be optimised for injection molding which reduces the cost due to material usage since it allows you to make parts just as strong while using less material overall, injection molding is cheaper per unit (tho it's scaling with size, smaller designs are barely any cheaper to do injection molded rather than 3D print, it's on much larger ones that the difference becomes meaningfull) but has like a 100x or higher initial investment, so you need very significant selling runs in order for the price of injection molded stuff to be lower than that of 3D print, without the economy of scale the mold makes it way too expensive, and if you actualy setup your own factory with the machines as well the price disparity is even higher
OK so i got mine in the mail the other day. Ordered the white with 300 spring and some extra shells and mags but HOLY SMOKES!! I don't actively do battles or have the space to shoot in the room im renting out, but now that i have this i feel more inclined than ever to engage in the scene (whatevers happening in seattle anyways) 😅 I have nothing but positive things to say about the kirin. The way it feels is surreal, and it looks borderline s3xY 🤯 I came from the nexus pro to this and i havent felt more powerful in my life. I dont think ive put it down actually, or left it out of my sight. Im constantly loading or organizing and i have plans to paint it like my nexus. Not to get too personal but im autistic and the mechanics and physics and stimulation of operating the kirin are tickling by brain the same way woring on my cars has. This thing makes me so happy. The few friends I've let shoot it have found it absurd at how much foam flingers have progressed since they were children. Btw I've gone through years of reviews to make an informed decision on what I wanted to spend 200 dollars on. Overall. . 10/10
Considering that they're using shells to hold the darts in the magazines, how feasable would it be to make double stack magazines with either single or double feed?
Coop i think the price must be contained for two reasons One: for no canibalize the 1st version remanent stock Two: because the plastic molding injection must be expensive for the make of the molds an they have to recover from that investment Great video!
I'm not sure that there would be much 'remanent stock' on the printed versions, those were advertised as 'made-to-order', but I agree on the cost of molds for the new version. In addition there is simply market value - the blaster is worth what people will pay for it. They may adjust the price or the accessory package after analyzing market performance, but this is a higher quality offering for the same price as the 3d-printed version which is a selling point, it's not their fault that it won't cost as much to produce once they get beyond the initial investment cost. So if keeping the price this high gets them to the break-even point more quickly than dropping the price in the hope of selling more units *shrug*
Coop, your review is spot on as always. I agree with you on the magazine size issue, adding a false bottom to the magazine would add to the "sniper" feel immensely.
Injection molded is only cheaper when you sell huge numbers. For certain sales projections, Injection molded is the same or more expensive per blaster. The Kirin needs to sell more to make money. If it does, the price could come down for a future production run. That doesn't happen for 3D printed.
Injection molding is MUCH higher in initial costs. It can cost tens of thousands of dollars for a single mold. This blaster has at least several unique molds, so that a huge initial asking price. A good 3D printer is only a few thousand dollars and can be used to create literally anything, so it can be repurposed for another blaster where these molds can’t be.
If I'm not mistaken he stated in a post that from now on he'd only be reviewing stuff he finds interesting, and that he's done with "plastic crap" or something like that, so I don't think you'll be seeing it again on this channel... But as I said, I can be mistaken.
I hope they make an injection-molded version of the Spring Thunder. That would be sweet
$600 later...
@@Dak_4008 I know you are making a joke, but the 3d printed version of the spring thunder is 175, so why would the injected version be 3x the price?
@@JamesLeigh28 idk. just a joke like you said but most things I have seen that are injection molded witha 3d printed 1st family member have been like 2x to 4x the price for some things not saying that it is gonna be like that but just a joke
This but the Flypoint
That would be neat, we'll have to see how this project goes.
“A Shellington Kirin?”
*paints the thumbhole stock brown*
“PERRY the Shellington Kirin??”
Best coop772 era
Absolutely agree. Going over awesome and innovative blasters rather than Nerf is Nothing garbage.
@@diegodollarhide6663 I miss when he did nic
@@poweraverage5773 did what?
True and real
Mmm… I think arguably 2016-2017 was the best, when nerf made cool and fun blasters
It's great that coop is finally doing what he really wants, instead of bothering over the trash nerf is making.
Congrats to shellington for getting an injection molded product. This thing looks frickin sweet.
Edit: Holy crap it shoots 230 fps too. I might have to splurge and get this :D
I'd just be skeptical of buying anything from Shellington. My experience is that they're *extremely* slow. I'm over a year out on getting a working Wingchester from them after the first was damaged in shipping. It took months to get confirmation that they'd even take a return and since September, I'm *still* waiting on the replacement.
@@Balmung60 could be that you live far from them. Afaik shellington is a really small group
@@ralexcraft990 We're both in the US and I've had other producers (often ones that are actually just one person) just as far away respond much quicker. Also, distance isn't really a factor when it comes to responding to an email.
@@Balmung60 that part is fair, i’m not sure on that end.
@@Balmung60 I hope that isn't how they usually are with customer service. If not that is quite unfortunate.
Top-of-the-line content, like always! Keep it up, man!
Love seeing you review stuff that gets you excited. Great direction for your channel 👍
The price seems spot on. Getting molds made for injection molding is hella expensive, and when you're making a niche product for a very specific demographic; you really need to recoup that cost if you hope to produce new products for that same audience in the future.
Yeah I figured the same---and it goes towards further R&D to make even more cool stuff
Not to mention that the mold dies will wear out over time. It can't just produce parts forever.
It's actually way cheaper than I expected. Barely more expensive than the Harrier and Worker is an experienced company with a relatively large market.
Totally on the mark. A 3D printer can make any shape you want as long as it fits on the bed, so any model of blaster. Those injection moulds are probably a USD 50 000 upfront cost and can only ever make parts for the Kirin.
@@avernathol-webb9854
$50,000 several times. There's no way that all parts could fit on one pair of dies.
So glad more blasters are ambi! As a left hander, getting a bolt action blaster that I can use with my left hand is AMAZING!
So cool to see shellington's products evolve like this! Amazing!
"For human use only" sounds like they are warning you not to fire it at animals because it's strong enough to kill a small animal
The body of the blaster is like a mix of a vector with a blot action. Honestly, it still looks awesome, especially the shell ejections.
I was thinking the same thing, especially because of the iconic rectangular Kriss suppressor.
Man I hope shellington makes more injection molded plastic blaster because that is really cool
Seems like it's be super fun for plinking, especially with the sniper feel. Definitely would like to see a mag that looks like a higher caliber but it's really not a deal breaker. If I get a chance I'll definitely have to pick one up someday. Great video as always!
The rise of the grey/cyan/orange colour palette and MLOK rails is great and I’m all for them
i like how you are using the new torso targets in your videos to show how hard they really shoot
that impact on your curtain is timed with the sound of the kirin firing holy moly
Keep up the content! Always love it!
really cool blaster! I definitely agree with the mag, I think shellington should
1. make the mag extension for sniper feel
2. make non shell or biodegradable shells versions
3. make some competitive viable snipers
Shellington's whole thing is shell ejecting blasters, but a b-variant Caliburn might fit the bill for a competitive bolt-action
They're going to release an adapter for a non shell ejecting. It just hasn't come out yet
@@chazman752000 any idea when? I love bolt action and cant run around much anymore so this would be perfect if not for the shells
Hearing those casings just jingling around on the floor is so cool. It seems edited but isnt!
“THEY PAINTED IT CLEAR BRO!”. I love this
I love the new trend of shells. Such fun for plinkers
Cyan/Light Orange is one of my favorite color combos and it looks so good here. I want it even more now
Yeah I like this color too, though I've seen a lot of people making Perry the platypus comments.
Thank you Shellington for thinking about us wrong handed shooters. ❤
8:03 "little 45" true america moment.
I really like the slo mo at the beginning of the video
Hey, love your videos! It would be awesome to see another review of a bunch of cheap online blasters- a lot of people get attracted to cheap seemingly good looking Blasters online that can sometimes be really bad, but your reviews help out a lot on knowing what to buy and what not to buy!
Seeing that seam in the front where the barrel starts makes me want a stubby flat-fronted version. I can't remember what it's called, but the Worker kit I have on my Strife is somewhat similar, and I love the look
The back part of the stock looks like the shoe part of the UGG boot SCAR stock. 10/10
“They painted it clear, bro!!! 🤪” 😂😂😂
I need more god dang coop in my life!
All the coop!
Your vids are so good keep it up frank. You've taught me basically everything Ik about foam flinging, in a week I'm going to a toy superstore to buy a bunch of blasters do you have any recommendations? Keep posting these tacti-cool videos.
injection molding is more expensive than 3d printing, the machines are much more expensive and the tooling mostly locks them in to a single product. a 3d printer doesnt have tooling and a lot of farms like OOD use 900 dollar printers as opposed to multi-thousand dollar injection molders
god i remember watching you years ago, brings the memories back
Coop C clamping a bolt gun is the high light if my day
WOW COOP THATS CRAZY BLASTER
In low volumes, injection molding is much more expensive than 3D printing. In large volumes, injection molding is cheaper. It's the cost of the mold tooling that is the biggest cost for injection molding.
The allen key comment got me, take care frank
i remember the tutorial video for how to paint a nerf gun clear. LOVE YOU COOP!!
First vid I’ve watched in a while. I’ve missed your content. Love the blaster. Your beard looks good!!
Idk why UA-cam stopped recommending the videos to me. “Prime content”
Good review coop
hey Coop at the eight minute mark you commented about the blaster being a PCC, that comment and your earlier comment about the faux supressor makes me think this looks like a modernised delisle carbine.
I'd like to see some of this blasters with some attachments that you have
Shellington came out with the mp5 and master key recently and they are really cool. I would love to see a review on them (especially the mp5)
the way he shoots the bolt actions reminds me of the mad minute firing style
Coop is done with nerf, and the video quality and happiness in his voice has risen
Strong recommendation bro. Though I think I will stick with my Wingchester, as I can tune it down to LARP class levels. But still, the Kirin looks like a cool blaster, that might be fun to field one day.
If we meet sales goals, then the Wingchester will be next...probably.
@@ShellingtonLabs I mean, that is most Excellent news.
@@MortenWill Yeah Heath's really excited about that.
@@ShellingtonLabs you're goddamn right I am
New merch?! Sick!
Hope shipping's decent outside the US, then I'm considering getting some swag.
Looking at current foamblast and OOD shipping prices🫤
@@space_designs Everything I wanted to buy is gone already.
@@GresSimJa F
Dat mag change ASMR at the end. Someone make a video loop of that!
HEY COOP! YOU EVER THINK OF USING A DECIBEL READER?!!!? I'm curious how loud some of these guns are shooting these bullets. Haha hoping that triggered you some.
Best dart blaster reviewer ever.
i like the design on it reminds me of a gun from apex legends called the r-301 looks very sleek
Excellent review as always Frank. Keep it up!
Another beautiful review to watch.
As someone who is wrong handed I appreciate the ambi bolt.
That's why I did it that way
wrong handed lmao thats one way to put it
@@Shnowz is he wrong though lol? I was trying to buy a holster for the nightingale like 2 days ago, literally could not find one that did want I wanted and was left handed. I did eventually but it’s like deep in the dark web of Amazon. 😂
technicaly speaking 3D printed is cheaper than injection molded on low print runs,
essencialy, 3D printed = you get some cheap 3D printer to do the job and buy some plastic for it to print with (or contract a printer farm), the machine is rather cheap and the production is slow, the plastic is also quite cheap but the process isn't very efficient and optimal design is drasticaly different, usualy bulkier because it's 3D printed.
injection molded = you get a mold which is very expensive, then you get the injection molding machine or most likely contract someone that has one (well usualy more than one since you actualy need many pieces and each piece is its own mold and machines usualy only run 1 mold at a time) and those are easily in the 5 to 6 digit figure if not higher, however the design can be optimised for injection molding which reduces the cost due to material usage since it allows you to make parts just as strong while using less material
overall, injection molding is cheaper per unit (tho it's scaling with size, smaller designs are barely any cheaper to do injection molded rather than 3D print, it's on much larger ones that the difference becomes meaningfull) but has like a 100x or higher initial investment, so you need very significant selling runs in order for the price of injection molded stuff to be lower than that of 3D print, without the economy of scale the mold makes it way too expensive, and if you actualy setup your own factory with the machines as well the price disparity is even higher
sick dude. that blaster looks awesome!
Coop, can you please review the Big Power Electric 501? It's basically like an Ultra 2 that shoots Elite darts, really cool blaster
love the vids frank keep up the great content
I watched this channel as a kid. Still feels the same in the best ways
I had something similar I was going to build with half bullets before there was a thing lol that’s crazy -
I really like the look of it. It looks like a kriss vector and a assault rifle combined, I would love to see it as a fly wheel.
Would be awesome if there is non-shell version too
*wink*
There is already a non-shell version
@@WengongXu where can i see the review and get one?
Florida man is back baby
i really like the original, and have one myself. since the new one is injection molded, it should be better. thanks for the review, coop!
Coop,can you look at either the pro mk1.2, rival forerunner or xshot crusher?
Now I want an injection molded Shellington.
wathced this guy as a kid and damn its nostalgia coming back TACTICOOL
Wait, INJECTION MOLDED?! Holy sh*t man Shellington is going off.
OK so i got mine in the mail the other day. Ordered the white with 300 spring and some extra shells and mags but HOLY SMOKES!! I don't actively do battles or have the space to shoot in the room im renting out, but now that i have this i feel more inclined than ever to engage in the scene (whatevers happening in seattle anyways) 😅 I have nothing but positive things to say about the kirin. The way it feels is surreal, and it looks borderline s3xY 🤯 I came from the nexus pro to this and i havent felt more powerful in my life. I dont think ive put it down actually, or left it out of my sight. Im constantly loading or organizing and i have plans to paint it like my nexus. Not to get too personal but im autistic and the mechanics and physics and stimulation of operating the kirin are tickling by brain the same way woring on my cars has. This thing makes me so happy. The few friends I've let shoot it have found it absurd at how much foam flingers have progressed since they were children. Btw I've gone through years of reviews to make an informed decision on what I wanted to spend 200 dollars on. Overall. . 10/10
Considering that they're using shells to hold the darts in the magazines, how feasable would it be to make double stack magazines with either single or double feed?
ive watched coop so much that i have memorized his standard script "the trigger pull is pretty normal, this blaster does not have slamfire" lol
A pretty cool blaster.
I've been trying to to find shell eject blaster, might have to buy this
I love how the stock says MHP ARMS. On a foam flinging blaster.
Looks like the Longbow DMR from Titanfall. I dig it.
LOTS OF POWER !!!!!
and loooong barrel
Very cool
Ps. Poland gang
Can't wait for a Mauser k98 mod for this, the grip just calls for that design...
Can you do a bolt gun group review?
Been watching this guy since I was ten or eleven. I am now sixteen. This is the UA-cam version of comfort food
1:52~
Coop, you mean "transparent colorless"
I wonder if they are planning on making other injection molded blasters.
That's the plan.
I don't know how this got into my recommendations but I dig it.
To fix the target problem you could get an acrylic target laser cut for fairly cheapform somewhere like PCBWay
Coop i think the price must be contained for two reasons
One: for no canibalize the 1st version remanent stock
Two: because the plastic molding injection must be expensive for the make of the molds an they have to recover from that investment
Great video!
I'm not sure that there would be much 'remanent stock' on the printed versions, those were advertised as 'made-to-order', but I agree on the cost of molds for the new version. In addition there is simply market value - the blaster is worth what people will pay for it. They may adjust the price or the accessory package after analyzing market performance, but this is a higher quality offering for the same price as the 3d-printed version which is a selling point, it's not their fault that it won't cost as much to produce once they get beyond the initial investment cost. So if keeping the price this high gets them to the break-even point more quickly than dropping the price in the hope of selling more units *shrug*
Good job as always
10:17 We are taking that out of context.
Coop do a reveiw on the mp5 automatic from shellington it looks really cool
Coop, your review is spot on as always. I agree with you on the magazine size issue, adding a false bottom to the magazine would add to the "sniper" feel immensely.
Injection molded is only cheaper when you sell huge numbers. For certain sales projections, Injection molded is the same or more expensive per blaster. The Kirin needs to sell more to make money. If it does, the price could come down for a future production run. That doesn't happen for 3D printed.
Great video, so with the prime being so light can we put a bigger spring and get up to 300fps?
They made an R-301
Man if I had enough money this would be so cool to buy. I wish these came in more affordable options for such cool blasters 😔
Here’s hoping and dreaming of the day that Shellington Labs makes their other blasters injection molded.
Coop would you recommend getting a harrier or a Kirin if I wanna go the sniper route?
Maybe someday... Someday we Will have a Full, consumer lever ejection molded spring thunder
Injection molding is MUCH higher in initial costs. It can cost tens of thousands of dollars for a single mold. This blaster has at least several unique molds, so that a huge initial asking price. A good 3D printer is only a few thousand dollars and can be used to create literally anything, so it can be repurposed for another blaster where these molds can’t be.
Coop we would love to see more of those cheap Amazon nerf guns, that video was so fun
If I'm not mistaken he stated in a post that from now on he'd only be reviewing stuff he finds interesting, and that he's done with "plastic crap" or something like that, so I don't think you'll be seeing it again on this channel... But as I said, I can be mistaken.
Now make this but for Mega darts for that Barrett 50 cal feel.
This thing looks awesome, but it needs some sling mounts for the whole All Ghillied Up experience.