@@JamesLeigh28 idk. just a joke like you said but most things I have seen that are injection molded witha 3d printed 1st family member have been like 2x to 4x the price for some things not saying that it is gonna be like that but just a joke
Congrats to shellington for getting an injection molded product. This thing looks frickin sweet. Edit: Holy crap it shoots 230 fps too. I might have to splurge and get this :D
I'd just be skeptical of buying anything from Shellington. My experience is that they're *extremely* slow. I'm over a year out on getting a working Wingchester from them after the first was damaged in shipping. It took months to get confirmation that they'd even take a return and since September, I'm *still* waiting on the replacement.
@@ralexcraft990 We're both in the US and I've had other producers (often ones that are actually just one person) just as far away respond much quicker. Also, distance isn't really a factor when it comes to responding to an email.
The price seems spot on. Getting molds made for injection molding is hella expensive, and when you're making a niche product for a very specific demographic; you really need to recoup that cost if you hope to produce new products for that same audience in the future.
Totally on the mark. A 3D printer can make any shape you want as long as it fits on the bed, so any model of blaster. Those injection moulds are probably a USD 50 000 upfront cost and can only ever make parts for the Kirin.
Seems like it's be super fun for plinking, especially with the sniper feel. Definitely would like to see a mag that looks like a higher caliber but it's really not a deal breaker. If I get a chance I'll definitely have to pick one up someday. Great video as always!
really cool blaster! I definitely agree with the mag, I think shellington should 1. make the mag extension for sniper feel 2. make non shell or biodegradable shells versions 3. make some competitive viable snipers
Hey, love your videos! It would be awesome to see another review of a bunch of cheap online blasters- a lot of people get attracted to cheap seemingly good looking Blasters online that can sometimes be really bad, but your reviews help out a lot on knowing what to buy and what not to buy!
Seeing that seam in the front where the barrel starts makes me want a stubby flat-fronted version. I can't remember what it's called, but the Worker kit I have on my Strife is somewhat similar, and I love the look
@@Shnowz is he wrong though lol? I was trying to buy a holster for the nightingale like 2 days ago, literally could not find one that did want I wanted and was left handed. I did eventually but it’s like deep in the dark web of Amazon. 😂
Strong recommendation bro. Though I think I will stick with my Wingchester, as I can tune it down to LARP class levels. But still, the Kirin looks like a cool blaster, that might be fun to field one day.
hey Coop at the eight minute mark you commented about the blaster being a PCC, that comment and your earlier comment about the faux supressor makes me think this looks like a modernised delisle carbine.
HEY COOP! YOU EVER THINK OF USING A DECIBEL READER?!!!? I'm curious how loud some of these guns are shooting these bullets. Haha hoping that triggered you some. Best dart blaster reviewer ever.
In low volumes, injection molding is much more expensive than 3D printing. In large volumes, injection molding is cheaper. It's the cost of the mold tooling that is the biggest cost for injection molding.
Your vids are so good keep it up frank. You've taught me basically everything Ik about foam flinging, in a week I'm going to a toy superstore to buy a bunch of blasters do you have any recommendations? Keep posting these tacti-cool videos.
injection molding is more expensive than 3d printing, the machines are much more expensive and the tooling mostly locks them in to a single product. a 3d printer doesnt have tooling and a lot of farms like OOD use 900 dollar printers as opposed to multi-thousand dollar injection molders
I just got my hands on mine. “Stock”, it came arranged for right handed use: bolt on right, ejector on left. The blaster throws shells in this setup. When I tried to change the ejector to the right, I’d get many more hiccups. I believe this is due to the extractor being on the left, meant to eject right. If you do switch to the left handed config, try switching the extractor over too. Edit: It is possible, but it’s not worth it unless you are left handed
I believe your supposed to do that. Also if you did switch it over and test it, did it work well? You made it sound like there was hiccups with the left handed config, and I’m left handed.😂
For anyone wondering, I moved the “shell grabber” to the other side as well. So 3 steps to covert. Move bolt: optional if you want to dual hand it or not. But to switch Shell ejection. Move L prices to other side with a screw, also pull the stock and front apart and move the “shell grabber as I’m calling it. A small price in the breach area. (2 more came with mine for reference.) I had 0 hiccups shell ejecting to the left after this.
If I'm not mistaken he stated in a post that from now on he'd only be reviewing stuff he finds interesting, and that he's done with "plastic crap" or something like that, so I don't think you'll be seeing it again on this channel... But as I said, I can be mistaken.
Considering that they're using shells to hold the darts in the magazines, how feasable would it be to make double stack magazines with either single or double feed?
technicaly speaking 3D printed is cheaper than injection molded on low print runs, essencialy, 3D printed = you get some cheap 3D printer to do the job and buy some plastic for it to print with (or contract a printer farm), the machine is rather cheap and the production is slow, the plastic is also quite cheap but the process isn't very efficient and optimal design is drasticaly different, usualy bulkier because it's 3D printed. injection molded = you get a mold which is very expensive, then you get the injection molding machine or most likely contract someone that has one (well usualy more than one since you actualy need many pieces and each piece is its own mold and machines usualy only run 1 mold at a time) and those are easily in the 5 to 6 digit figure if not higher, however the design can be optimised for injection molding which reduces the cost due to material usage since it allows you to make parts just as strong while using less material overall, injection molding is cheaper per unit (tho it's scaling with size, smaller designs are barely any cheaper to do injection molded rather than 3D print, it's on much larger ones that the difference becomes meaningfull) but has like a 100x or higher initial investment, so you need very significant selling runs in order for the price of injection molded stuff to be lower than that of 3D print, without the economy of scale the mold makes it way too expensive, and if you actualy setup your own factory with the machines as well the price disparity is even higher
Coop i think the price must be contained for two reasons One: for no canibalize the 1st version remanent stock Two: because the plastic molding injection must be expensive for the make of the molds an they have to recover from that investment Great video!
I'm not sure that there would be much 'remanent stock' on the printed versions, those were advertised as 'made-to-order', but I agree on the cost of molds for the new version. In addition there is simply market value - the blaster is worth what people will pay for it. They may adjust the price or the accessory package after analyzing market performance, but this is a higher quality offering for the same price as the 3d-printed version which is a selling point, it's not their fault that it won't cost as much to produce once they get beyond the initial investment cost. So if keeping the price this high gets them to the break-even point more quickly than dropping the price in the hope of selling more units *shrug*
Injection molded is only cheaper when you sell huge numbers. For certain sales projections, Injection molded is the same or more expensive per blaster. The Kirin needs to sell more to make money. If it does, the price could come down for a future production run. That doesn't happen for 3D printed.
Shells offer some practical war benefits, like not jamming. When it's 98 degrees and everyone's milsig and caliburn are folding every dart, guess who didn't have jams? Me, with my shells
@@AdiCrafts it doesn't always work, like on the wasp and Wingchester. On the kirin, it would work great with ejection swapped opposite of the priming hand, though
I could also suggest a variant being made to have full length dart shells and thus a larger magazine to look more proper but I personally like PCC’s and how they look so I quite like it
I hope they make an injection-molded version of the Spring Thunder. That would be sweet
$600 later...
@@Dak_4008 I know you are making a joke, but the 3d printed version of the spring thunder is 175, so why would the injected version be 3x the price?
@@JamesLeigh28 idk. just a joke like you said but most things I have seen that are injection molded witha 3d printed 1st family member have been like 2x to 4x the price for some things not saying that it is gonna be like that but just a joke
This but the Flypoint
That would be neat, we'll have to see how this project goes.
Best coop772 era
Absolutely agree. Going over awesome and innovative blasters rather than Nerf is Nothing garbage.
@@diegodollarhide6663 I miss when he did nic
@@poweraverage5773 did what?
True and real
Mmm… I think arguably 2016-2017 was the best, when nerf made cool and fun blasters
“A Shellington Kirin?”
*paints the thumbhole stock brown*
“PERRY the Shellington Kirin??”
Congrats to shellington for getting an injection molded product. This thing looks frickin sweet.
Edit: Holy crap it shoots 230 fps too. I might have to splurge and get this :D
I'd just be skeptical of buying anything from Shellington. My experience is that they're *extremely* slow. I'm over a year out on getting a working Wingchester from them after the first was damaged in shipping. It took months to get confirmation that they'd even take a return and since September, I'm *still* waiting on the replacement.
@@Balmung60 could be that you live far from them. Afaik shellington is a really small group
@@ralexcraft990 We're both in the US and I've had other producers (often ones that are actually just one person) just as far away respond much quicker. Also, distance isn't really a factor when it comes to responding to an email.
@@Balmung60 that part is fair, i’m not sure on that end.
@@Balmung60 I hope that isn't how they usually are with customer service. If not that is quite unfortunate.
It's great that coop is finally doing what he really wants, instead of bothering over the trash nerf is making.
Top-of-the-line content, like always! Keep it up, man!
Love seeing you review stuff that gets you excited. Great direction for your channel 👍
The price seems spot on. Getting molds made for injection molding is hella expensive, and when you're making a niche product for a very specific demographic; you really need to recoup that cost if you hope to produce new products for that same audience in the future.
Yeah I figured the same---and it goes towards further R&D to make even more cool stuff
Not to mention that the mold dies will wear out over time. It can't just produce parts forever.
It's actually way cheaper than I expected. Barely more expensive than the Harrier and Worker is an experienced company with a relatively large market.
Totally on the mark. A 3D printer can make any shape you want as long as it fits on the bed, so any model of blaster. Those injection moulds are probably a USD 50 000 upfront cost and can only ever make parts for the Kirin.
@@avernathol-webb9854
$50,000 several times. There's no way that all parts could fit on one pair of dies.
So glad more blasters are ambi! As a left hander, getting a bolt action blaster that I can use with my left hand is AMAZING!
"For human use only" sounds like they are warning you not to fire it at animals because it's strong enough to kill a small animal
So cool to see shellington's products evolve like this! Amazing!
The body of the blaster is like a mix of a vector with a blot action. Honestly, it still looks awesome, especially the shell ejections.
I was thinking the same thing, especially because of the iconic rectangular Kriss suppressor.
Seems like it's be super fun for plinking, especially with the sniper feel. Definitely would like to see a mag that looks like a higher caliber but it's really not a deal breaker. If I get a chance I'll definitely have to pick one up someday. Great video as always!
Man I hope shellington makes more injection molded plastic blaster because that is really cool
i like how you are using the new torso targets in your videos to show how hard they really shoot
The rise of the grey/cyan/orange colour palette and MLOK rails is great and I’m all for them
Keep up the content! Always love it!
that impact on your curtain is timed with the sound of the kirin firing holy moly
“THEY PAINTED IT CLEAR BRO!”. I love this
Cyan/Light Orange is one of my favorite color combos and it looks so good here. I want it even more now
Yeah I like this color too, though I've seen a lot of people making Perry the platypus comments.
Thank you Shellington for thinking about us wrong handed shooters. ❤
really cool blaster! I definitely agree with the mag, I think shellington should
1. make the mag extension for sniper feel
2. make non shell or biodegradable shells versions
3. make some competitive viable snipers
Shellington's whole thing is shell ejecting blasters, but a b-variant Caliburn might fit the bill for a competitive bolt-action
They're going to release an adapter for a non shell ejecting. It just hasn't come out yet
@@chazman752000 any idea when? I love bolt action and cant run around much anymore so this would be perfect if not for the shells
I love the new trend of shells. Such fun for plinkers
First vid I’ve watched in a while. I’ve missed your content. Love the blaster. Your beard looks good!!
I need more god dang coop in my life!
All the coop!
Hearing those casings just jingling around on the floor is so cool. It seems edited but isnt!
Hey, love your videos! It would be awesome to see another review of a bunch of cheap online blasters- a lot of people get attracted to cheap seemingly good looking Blasters online that can sometimes be really bad, but your reviews help out a lot on knowing what to buy and what not to buy!
i remember the tutorial video for how to paint a nerf gun clear. LOVE YOU COOP!!
I really like the slo mo at the beginning of the video
god i remember watching you years ago, brings the memories back
Coop C clamping a bolt gun is the high light if my day
Coop is done with nerf, and the video quality and happiness in his voice has risen
Seeing that seam in the front where the barrel starts makes me want a stubby flat-fronted version. I can't remember what it's called, but the Worker kit I have on my Strife is somewhat similar, and I love the look
Idk why UA-cam stopped recommending the videos to me. “Prime content”
As someone who is wrong handed I appreciate the ambi bolt.
That's why I did it that way
wrong handed lmao thats one way to put it
@@Shnowz is he wrong though lol? I was trying to buy a holster for the nightingale like 2 days ago, literally could not find one that did want I wanted and was left handed. I did eventually but it’s like deep in the dark web of Amazon. 😂
The back part of the stock looks like the shoe part of the UGG boot SCAR stock. 10/10
WOW COOP THATS CRAZY BLASTER
8:03 "little 45" true america moment.
The allen key comment got me, take care frank
New merch?! Sick!
Hope shipping's decent outside the US, then I'm considering getting some swag.
Looking at current foamblast and OOD shipping prices🫤
@@space_designs Everything I wanted to buy is gone already.
@@GresSimJa F
Strong recommendation bro. Though I think I will stick with my Wingchester, as I can tune it down to LARP class levels. But still, the Kirin looks like a cool blaster, that might be fun to field one day.
If we meet sales goals, then the Wingchester will be next...probably.
@@ShellingtonLabs I mean, that is most Excellent news.
@@MortenWill Yeah Heath's really excited about that.
@@ShellingtonLabs you're goddamn right I am
“They painted it clear, bro!!! 🤪” 😂😂😂
Excellent review as always Frank. Keep it up!
I watched this channel as a kid. Still feels the same in the best ways
i like the design on it reminds me of a gun from apex legends called the r-301 looks very sleek
Been watching this guy since I was ten or eleven. I am now sixteen. This is the UA-cam version of comfort food
I don't know how this got into my recommendations but I dig it.
Good review coop
LOTS OF POWER !!!!!
and loooong barrel
Very cool
Ps. Poland gang
Shellington came out with the mp5 and master key recently and they are really cool. I would love to see a review on them (especially the mp5)
hey Coop at the eight minute mark you commented about the blaster being a PCC, that comment and your earlier comment about the faux supressor makes me think this looks like a modernised delisle carbine.
HEY COOP! YOU EVER THINK OF USING A DECIBEL READER?!!!? I'm curious how loud some of these guns are shooting these bullets. Haha hoping that triggered you some.
Best dart blaster reviewer ever.
the way he shoots the bolt actions reminds me of the mad minute firing style
In low volumes, injection molding is much more expensive than 3D printing. In large volumes, injection molding is cheaper. It's the cost of the mold tooling that is the biggest cost for injection molding.
Your vids are so good keep it up frank. You've taught me basically everything Ik about foam flinging, in a week I'm going to a toy superstore to buy a bunch of blasters do you have any recommendations? Keep posting these tacti-cool videos.
I really like the look of it. It looks like a kriss vector and a assault rifle combined, I would love to see it as a fly wheel.
sick dude. that blaster looks awesome!
Dat mag change ASMR at the end. Someone make a video loop of that!
i really like the original, and have one myself. since the new one is injection molded, it should be better. thanks for the review, coop!
love the vids frank keep up the great content
Another beautiful review to watch.
Wait, INJECTION MOLDED?! Holy sh*t man Shellington is going off.
wathced this guy as a kid and damn its nostalgia coming back TACTICOOL
Would be awesome if there is non-shell version too
*wink*
There is already a non-shell version
@@WengongXu where can i see the review and get one?
injection molding is more expensive than 3d printing, the machines are much more expensive and the tooling mostly locks them in to a single product. a 3d printer doesnt have tooling and a lot of farms like OOD use 900 dollar printers as opposed to multi-thousand dollar injection molders
I just got my hands on mine. “Stock”, it came arranged for right handed use: bolt on right, ejector on left. The blaster throws shells in this setup. When I tried to change the ejector to the right, I’d get many more hiccups. I believe this is due to the extractor being on the left, meant to eject right. If you do switch to the left handed config, try switching the extractor over too.
Edit: It is possible, but it’s not worth it unless you are left handed
I believe your supposed to do that. Also if you did switch it over and test it, did it work well? You made it sound like there was hiccups with the left handed config, and I’m left handed.😂
Me when left hand discriminating blaster
For anyone wondering, I moved the “shell grabber” to the other side as well. So 3 steps to covert. Move bolt: optional if you want to dual hand it or not. But to switch Shell ejection. Move L prices to other side with a screw, also pull the stock and front apart and move the “shell grabber as I’m calling it. A small price in the breach area. (2 more came with mine for reference.) I had 0 hiccups shell ejecting to the left after this.
I had something similar I was going to build with half bullets before there was a thing lol that’s crazy -
Coop we would love to see more of those cheap Amazon nerf guns, that video was so fun
If I'm not mistaken he stated in a post that from now on he'd only be reviewing stuff he finds interesting, and that he's done with "plastic crap" or something like that, so I don't think you'll be seeing it again on this channel... But as I said, I can be mistaken.
Florida man is back baby
Good job as always
ive watched coop so much that i have memorized his standard script "the trigger pull is pretty normal, this blaster does not have slamfire" lol
Now I want an injection molded Shellington.
Man if I had enough money this would be so cool to buy. I wish these came in more affordable options for such cool blasters 😔
Can't wait for a Mauser k98 mod for this, the grip just calls for that design...
I'd like to see some of this blasters with some attachments that you have
To fix the target problem you could get an acrylic target laser cut for fairly cheapform somewhere like PCBWay
Looks like the Longbow DMR from Titanfall. I dig it.
Coop, can you please review the Big Power Electric 501? It's basically like an Ultra 2 that shoots Elite darts, really cool blaster
I love how the stock says MHP ARMS. On a foam flinging blaster.
I wonder if they are planning on making other injection molded blasters.
That's the plan.
Considering that they're using shells to hold the darts in the magazines, how feasable would it be to make double stack magazines with either single or double feed?
No way they made the parry the platypus nerf gun
It's certainly a color choice haha.
It's to POWERFULL!!! even when you shoot your camera can't keep up with the dart
A pretty cool blaster.
I've been trying to to find shell eject blaster, might have to buy this
technicaly speaking 3D printed is cheaper than injection molded on low print runs,
essencialy, 3D printed = you get some cheap 3D printer to do the job and buy some plastic for it to print with (or contract a printer farm), the machine is rather cheap and the production is slow, the plastic is also quite cheap but the process isn't very efficient and optimal design is drasticaly different, usualy bulkier because it's 3D printed.
injection molded = you get a mold which is very expensive, then you get the injection molding machine or most likely contract someone that has one (well usualy more than one since you actualy need many pieces and each piece is its own mold and machines usualy only run 1 mold at a time) and those are easily in the 5 to 6 digit figure if not higher, however the design can be optimised for injection molding which reduces the cost due to material usage since it allows you to make parts just as strong while using less material
overall, injection molding is cheaper per unit (tho it's scaling with size, smaller designs are barely any cheaper to do injection molded rather than 3D print, it's on much larger ones that the difference becomes meaningfull) but has like a 100x or higher initial investment, so you need very significant selling runs in order for the price of injection molded stuff to be lower than that of 3D print, without the economy of scale the mold makes it way too expensive, and if you actualy setup your own factory with the machines as well the price disparity is even higher
Coop i think the price must be contained for two reasons
One: for no canibalize the 1st version remanent stock
Two: because the plastic molding injection must be expensive for the make of the molds an they have to recover from that investment
Great video!
I'm not sure that there would be much 'remanent stock' on the printed versions, those were advertised as 'made-to-order', but I agree on the cost of molds for the new version. In addition there is simply market value - the blaster is worth what people will pay for it. They may adjust the price or the accessory package after analyzing market performance, but this is a higher quality offering for the same price as the 3d-printed version which is a selling point, it's not their fault that it won't cost as much to produce once they get beyond the initial investment cost. So if keeping the price this high gets them to the break-even point more quickly than dropping the price in the hope of selling more units *shrug*
Maybe someday... Someday we Will have a Full, consumer lever ejection molded spring thunder
Looks clean definitely on my watch list
Injection molded is only cheaper when you sell huge numbers. For certain sales projections, Injection molded is the same or more expensive per blaster. The Kirin needs to sell more to make money. If it does, the price could come down for a future production run. That doesn't happen for 3D printed.
Shells offer some practical war benefits, like not jamming. When it's 98 degrees and everyone's milsig and caliburn are folding every dart, guess who didn't have jams? Me, with my shells
Shells >>>
Just making shell catching net official, making shell ejecting a practical option in wars
@@AdiCrafts it doesn't always work, like on the wasp and Wingchester. On the kirin, it would work great with ejection swapped opposite of the priming hand, though
I could also suggest a variant being made to have full length dart shells and thus a larger magazine to look more proper but I personally like PCC’s and how they look so I quite like it
I wish the price on blasters were fair here in Brazil, guess that's a long distant dream, love your videos ❤
Am i weird for liking the 3d printed "grinding noise" It's so satisfying
For some reason I was thinking about coop and then I got a notification saying. He posted a new video
There going to make a adapter so you can use angle worker mags and I think it will be a better use.
Here’s hoping and dreaming of the day that Shellington Labs makes their other blasters injection molded.
This thing looks awesome, but it needs some sling mounts for the whole All Ghillied Up experience.
Can you do a bolt gun group review?
Coop do a reveiw on the mp5 automatic from shellington it looks really cool